Charlottesville Redevelopment and Housing Authority Board Meeting   8/25/2025

I don't know who that is.

Right here!

Hi, I'm Kathleen Glenn-Matthews.

I'm the Deputy Executive Director.

I realize I have to put my glasses on.

Oh, that's too bad.

You're Maria.

Yes, Maria.

Maria, you're the person I need now.

Yes.

Great.

And I'll teach you how to write your files.

Yes, I got sworn in.

I did my financial disclosure.

I think I've done all the things I'm supposed to do.

Hey, Lee.

Yes.

No, because I was supposed to say one size.

I wasn't.

Oh.

You can sit wherever you are.

And you said Earl's here.

And person three.

No, I mean on the board at all.

Thank you very much.

Hi.

So nice to meet you.

Nice to meet you.

Hey.

Gillet.

Yeah, that's fine.

We'll get us in back.

We'll remember this.

We did.

Yes, because I interviewed for a job in Tom Cariello's office, and you interviewed me.

And I was like, you and I have an uncommon name, and so I recognized that as your name.

from a million years ago.

I was a little child.

Which makes sense why I was in DC, but I was just out of college and trying to find a job in 2009 which as you remember might have been a

I work for a criminal justice nonprofit that was a policy org trying to work on preventing wrongful incarceration by dealing with policy causes.

It was national, but it had

and then it was basically when the Innocence Project started, the Innocence Project only did litigation, they didn't do like policy stuff and so this was like a policy thing and then variation was much better at fundraising and so this summer, whatever.

Maria did, have you heard from Michael?

No.

All right, well then maybe we should get going.

Okay, so I will call this meeting to order.

Can we do a roll call please Ms. Case?

Here.

Commissioner Rosenblith?

Here.

Can I say that right now?

Rosenblith.

Blith.

Yes.

Yes.

I pronounce the name correctly.

All right, we will now take a moment of silence.

OK, general announcements, meeting dates and reminders.

Our next board work session is Thursday, September 11th at 6 p.m. Next regular board meeting is Monday, September 22nd at 6 p.m. We have the Redevelopment Committee meeting every first Thursday of the month from 3 to 4.

We have the CRHA Admin Redevelopment meeting every third Thursday at 1.

Safety Committee every second Wednesday at noon, and then resident services every second Tuesday at one.

I think we'll get to it later, but we do need to elect, do some elections tonight, and then at a subsequent meeting, we probably, we've had a lot of shifts, so we probably need to like realign what

That's it.

I just noticed there are some houses on Monticello, on Monticello Avenue are being built and 763, yes, and I'm thinking about moving, yes, what's the public housing

for, because I'm having issues with not being allowed to write a check to pay for my rent.

And I'm gonna try to, yes, for, yeah, yes, for the beginning of April or end of March in 2026.

It's been a nice place to live, but that, it's set,

that no bank that concerns me personally, the Wells Fargo Bank, and I wish it would be back soon.

When is South Sixth Street gonna be built?

There are a number of things in there.

Who would be the best?

Maria.

The best person to talk to would be Miss Carrie.

Right there.

She can help you with those questions.

All right, thank you.

Okay, so next is on the agenda is annual meeting to elect officers.

Previously we, and we're only required to have a chair and a vice chair.

Wes was the chair.

and he's obviously completed his service and I was the vice chair and I guess that's up too.

So at a minimum we need to have those.

We have previously in the course of me being on the board at one point, Laura Goldblatt was treasurer but we are not required to have a treasurer and I don't, if anybody asks me what that entails, I have no idea.

is Delphine.

Yes, I'm on.

So for tonight, as you said, the most important positions are the vice chair and chair, although if you desire to elect a treasurer as well, you can certainly do so, but not every housing authority has a treasurer as an officer of the board.

You typically proceed first with the vice chair election and second with the chair.

So I am not sure if you have considered whether there would be multiple candidates or any candidate at all for each of those two positions.

But when you're ready to proceed, the best way to do it is for a commissioner to nominate someone on the board.

They can nominate themselves or another commissioner for one of the two positions.

And then we take a vote.

and then we move on to the next position.

So we could start with the vice chair and then move on with the chair position.

Okay, thank you.

Oh, hi Michael.

Hello.

So I guess I'll open it up.

Does anybody have any nominations for anything?

I guess we'll start with vice chair.

I didn't talk to him, but I would nominate Javier.

Based on board tenure.

If you make a motion, I'd be happy because I think Brigid would be in a very good position to be the chair.

If I could just support you in that way.

Oh, we're getting fancy now.

Okay, so it looks like we have a motion by Commissioner Wicks.

seconded by Commissioner Payne to nominate Commissioner Raudales for the position of vice chair of the board.

Are there any other nominations for that position or is the board ready to proceed with the vote?

Great, it looks like we're ready to proceed with the vote.

Maria.

Commissioner Hicks.

Great.

Thank you, Commissioner Rosenblith.

We have a lot of new names too.

We have a motion made by Commissioner Rodales, seconded by Commissioner Rosenblith to nominate current Vice Chair or former Vice Chair Brigid Wicks O'Rourke as the new Chair of the Board.

Do we have any other nominations for the position of chair?

All in favor?

Aye.

Aye.

Great.

Congratulations.

Thank you, everybody.

Okay, next up, I don't see anyone from PHAR.

Oh, yes, I'm sorry, I don't know you.

Hi everyone, my name is Sophia Marrero and I'm a community organizer at PHAR.

I just recently started maybe like four months ago, so if you haven't seen me.

Welcome.

It's nice to meet you all.

So Latricia is away on vacation, so I'm going to be providing the PHAR update today.

We recently celebrated West Haven Community Day and it was a great success.

I want to thank CRHA for all that they did.

This event was a collaborative effort and we could not have done it without you all as well as many of our other partners.

We had a go-go band that was recruited with the help of Stacey which is a community organizer at PHAR and it was incredibly popular.

Many of us told us it was the highlight of the event and their favorite part so that go-go band was great.

I stayed back and listened to it and personally I really enjoyed it.

We are also recruiting for our adult internship program.

This is a program for residents that emphasizes civic participation and developing leadership skills.

It lasts six months, is up to 10 hours a week and pays $15 an hour.

If anyone is interested, they can call our office at 434-984-3255.

We're also celebrating our first ever youth internship program.

They had a great success and we are having a graduation to celebrate them on.

CRHA is also having a back to school event this Thursday at South First Street and we are having a fall festival at Sixth Street on October 3rd.

We have also been working on LV Collective's 11th story luxury student housing building to try and advocate for more step backs and setbacks.

We are also working on asking City Hall to change

City Council to change the zoning ordinance.

The West Haven resident planners have been very active and have been speaking at all the meetings.

So we think it's been a success.

We've been fliering, we've been door knocking.

We've been doing all of that.

So thank you.

And do we have any other public comments?

Not yet, okay.

No.

Oh, I have an update which is that I spoke to the mayor of Alexandria on Thursday of this past week.

I'm in my academic role an expert on public housing history and she wanted to reach out to me to talk about that and kind of

shared the good work that CRHA has been doing and she was thinking potentially that maybe at once the Alexandria Housing Authority, I don't know if you've seen the news, is kind of in the midst of a scandal type situation but they were hoping that they might be able to learn from some of what CRHA has been doing in the future once things kind of

settled down and they make sure that they're fully compliant with the law.

And I was just praising the residents in CRHA for everything that they've been able to do for Charlottesville.

And she was really heartened by the example that Charlottesville residents and advocates have been over the many, many decades.

So yeah, when she learned about everything that you all were doing,

found it really impressive and wanted to learn from it and to support residents in Alexandria in the same way.

So I didn't agree to anything, didn't want to volunteer anybody else's time without being able to do that, but said that I would report back to you all and keep the lines of communication open.

And obviously, I can give you her information too so that you can reach out to her directly.

It doesn't have to go through me.

But I think she's hoping for that maybe

in a few months

Rehire situation, so I think it was like a specific issue, but also I think they're just trying to figure out, she's trying to figure out how to build resident power because residents are experiencing, you know, hardships and obviously living in Alexandria is quite expensive, and so she is, you know, as mayor obviously you have

only so much power but she's trying to talk to anybody she can to figure out how to support the citizens of her city and specifically the people who have been marginalized along numerous axes of identity and so she was kind of in the throes of things with the new news of that but I think she's also

not as happy with the board, not as happy with some of the kind of public facing people.

Got it.

Yeah, that's what I said.

It was like CRHA and PHAR residents, like speaking to residents themselves and people who have been doing the work.

So I think,

You know, again, I can give you her contact information and she can indicate, you know, when she feels like she's in a space where they're prepared to hear and learn in a way that feels conducive to everybody.

So I don't want to gate keep.

Awesome.

Thank you.

any other updates from commissioners I think that she did public comment that she's ready you ready now or do you want to wait to the end I'm ready for you let's go I haven't seen you guys in like four days it might be a whole week

My name is Cilithia Carr.

I'm the founder of Not Me, I Believe.

And I just wanted to give a quick update about the good work that we're doing at Crescent Halls.

We do a Crescent Halls dinner program since January of this year.

And it has been very, very successful.

We run two dinners.

Two meetings that we do a month, the first and second Saturday of each month.

The third Sunday, we do a big meal.

And the last one is coming up in October.

October the 19th will be the ending meal for that.

I'd say the highest number that we had to come into this dinner is 74 people out of 105 units and 105 residents that lived in this establishment.

and so we are doing great, great work and we would love to continue it for the next year.

Also, I wanted to, because September the 13th, Rose Hill Neighborhood Association is having a block party at Washington Park.

Not many, I believe, have partnered with them to do that and we're looking for volunteers for this event and I believe for me, everyone is invited

What time is the block party?

It's from 12 to 2.

I have brought some flyers.

But it's from 12 to 6.

All right.

Could I request that we amend the minutes?

Yes.

There was a vote on minutes from the previous month, and it just doesn't include my vote in approval.

Yeah.

Just looking over it quickly.

It just kind of skips me.

Something's just a typo.

Yep.

If we could, I could motion to approve the minutes from the July board, a July 20th board meeting with an amendment to include the affirmative vote of Javier Raudales, approving the,

Yep, I think that makes sense.

You got that, Maria?

Yes.

Can I ask a clarifying question?

Are we voting on that?

Yes.

Do Lise and I vote on that if we weren't there?

Well, you were at the 28th, you were not sworn in yet, so you can abstain and I wasn't there.

Commissioner Rosenblith?

You're good, you're 25, yes.

Commissioner Clavel?

Abstain.

Aye.

All right.

Thank you, everyone.

All right.

We have two recognition resolutions.

So first, a CRHA resolution 1490, a resolution recognizing the dedication and effort of Dr. Wes Bellamy and his service to the residents and HCV

Sisera participants of the Charlottesville Redevelopment Housing Authority during his tenure on the CRHA Board of Commissioners.

Whereas Dr. Bellamy was appointed to serve the CRHA community as a commissioner of the CRHA Board of Commissioners beginning in September of 2022 and chair since July of 2023.

And whereas during his tenure on the CRHA Board, Dr. Bellamy has worked diligently to represent the needs of CRHA residents while ensuring the ongoing health and wellbeing of the agency,

and whereas Dr. Bellamy's commitment to a resident centric approach to the management of the CRHA demonstrates the value of true asset-based community leadership and whereas Dr. Bellamy's commitment to serving residents in CRHA communities with annual events like the turkey and bike giveaway and the breakfast at the bus stop and whereas during his tenure on the CRHA board, Dr. Bellamy served as the board chair for two years while serving on the redevelopment committee, maintenance, parallel track,

Committee, Finance Committee, and Resident Services Committee, and whereas the Board of Commissioners of the Charlottesville Redevelopment and Housing Authority wishes to express its appreciation for the admirable work that Dr. Bellamy has done on behalf of the CRHA community over these past three years as he has sought to redefine our agency through partnerships with residents, PHAR, the City of Charlottesville HUD, and numerous supporters and stakeholders.

Therefore, be it resolved and known by all that with much gratitude, the Board of Commissioners

of the Charlottesville Redevelopment and Housing Authority do hereby recognize and formally commend Dr. Wes Bellamy for his admirable efforts exercised on behalf of the residents of the CRHA thus benefiting not only those directly served but the greater Charlottesville community as a whole.

all right passes I assume there's like an official one for us to sign somewhere okay all right CRHA resolution 1491 a resolution recognizing the dedication and effort of Dr. Laura Goldblatt

in her service to the residents and HCV SISRAT participants of the Charlottesville Redevelopment Housing Authority during his tenure on the CRHA Board of Commissioners.

Whereas Dr. Goldblatt was appointed to serve the CRHA community as a commissioner of the CRHA Board of Commissioners beginning in May of 2019.

And whereas during her tenure on the CRHA Board, Dr. Goldblatt

has worked diligently to represent the needs of CRHA residents while ensuring the ongoing health and well-being of the agency.

And whereas Dr. Goldblatt's commitment to a resident-centered approach to the management of CRHA demonstrates the value of true asset-based community leadership.

And whereas during her tenure on the CRHA board, Dr. Goldblatt served as the treasurer for four years while serving on the Safety Committee and Resident Services Committee.

And whereas the Board of Commissioners of the Charlottesville Redevelopment and Housing

wishes to express its appreciation for the admirable work that Dr. Goldblatt has done on behalf of the CRHA community over these past six years as she has sought to redefine our agency through partnerships with residents, PHAR, City of Charlottesville, HUD, and our numerous supporters and stakeholders.

Therefore be it resolved and known by all that with much gratitude the Board of Commissioners of the Charlottesville Redevelopment and Housing Authority do hereby recognize and formally commend Dr. Goldblatt for her admirable efforts exercised on behalf of the residents of the CRHA

Aye.

Aye.

It says he.

Yep, thank you.

I was gonna say it.

Good call.

Laura will immediately see that.

Good evening.

So we have a total of 651 vouchers, 71 including the CCRAF participants,

Oh, I'm sorry.

Any questions for Ms. Hester?

Hey, TC Nichols, Director of Finance.

Just a couple quick updates since we're not in a quarter month.

We are continuing work on EFT payments from landlords and working on a more digitized document system for all of our public housing records, HCV records, and finance HR records.

And at this point, we've

received a quote from Rico, so we're kind of looking over that right now and making a determination if that's the way we want to go with our product or do something more in-house.

Awesome.

Any questions for TC?

All right.

Thank you very much.

Good evening to the board and everyone else in attendance, TerAna Banks, interim director of property management and compliance manager.

Three things we wanted to highlight tonight.

The first thing is that a majority of the property management, maintenance and resident services staff was able to complete a fair housing

Training with one of the top trainers in the industry on August 13th.

The trainer was very pleased and said how interactive the agency was.

And so we will be looking to do that at least once a year with as many of the staff members as possible.

Also asset collections manager,

with the help of PM staff and resident services was able to either postpone or completely avoid eviction.

We were able to get $16,126 in rental assistance for residents that were either facing eviction or right at the blank of eviction.

And we are still continuing to work through our EDP

Program.

Lastly on, sorry I'm flipping through notes here, on September 11th, the property manager for Madison and Mickey along with our other PM staff and partners will be doing an ice cream social for those two communities

and so I don't have exact times yet, but we'll try to get that out if anyone wants to pop by.

It'll be an hour at Madison and an hour at Mickey.

We'll be doing snacks, drinks, and then we'll have the ice cream truck out to do ice cream for not just the kids, but the adults that like it as well.

And I think that's all we have.

I have a very random

question, not about anything you just said, but I know that we always do a trunk or treat.

Yes, we'll be working on it in September.

Typically, honestly, we start planning maybe three or four months out.

So yes, as we do every year, we will be doing that and we'll get some information out on that.

Prolific is planning to do the Halloween Spectacular again in partnership with

City of Promise and so we've started working on that so we just don't want to like conflict with stuff.

We will make sure it doesn't conflict.

We'll make sure we get on that.

We'll work with y'all.

Yep.

I gotcha.

Any other questions for Miss Banks?

Yes, my name's Kathleen Glenn-Matthews and I'm the Deputy Executive Director.

For many years in the making, it's been part of our annual and strategic planning to launch a nonprofit.

Part of the presentation I'm giving tonight, we actually had almost a year ago today, but we decided to pause at that point in time so that we could do some capacity building, and the board at that time had also asked us to work on SOPs, which we have completed.

We believe we're ready now to launch this maneuver, and since we have a lot of new faces, I thought I would just give a quick review of what we were proposing.

So part of it's just logistics, and there's definitely time for questions at the end.

But please let me know if you have questions while I'm going over some of this.

The main reason we're wanting to have a nonprofit, and I've been talking about it for a good six years or more, is that we are limited with the grants that we can apply to.

We're a quasi-government agency.

Many times we come across funding that we're really excited about and then realize that we cannot as we are not a final 1C3.

We also want to do some diversifying.

The world has been changing a lot with different funding and it's a bit uncertain as to where some of our funding is going to be coming in the future and we feel this would give us more stability.

We're also undergoing

Tremendous redevelopment efforts that are led by our residents and we want to make sure that we can support some of these processes that are going on as well as costs that come up that might not have been anticipated or just changes in the economy.

We're also looking at being able to actually

Garner support from our community with in-kind donations and personal property donations.

We could even have property itself donated which we could not do previously and give the donor full tax credit.

Fundraising is something we're really excited about.

A lot of our residents talk to me about this a lot and they have so many amazing ideas around fundraising.

and sometimes it's for programs, sometimes it's for after school and sometimes it's for redevelopment as well and this would open up a lot of avenues for that.

Logistically, you know, we needed to have a board resolution, a name, mission, vision,

programming with Eversite, a conflict of interest policy, and looking at some financial data and fundraising.

And then the last part's gonna be filing our articles of organization.

We had a board resolution done in May 24th of 2021.

As I said before, we've been very invested in this.

We've been

Everything's in place as far as that piece, but we need to obtain city council approval.

For city council approval, we're looking at one or two of our commissioners going to city council and they could also, I would also ask our council to assist them with some recommendations of that presentation, but it is a requirement.

For the name,

We've been tossing around ideas a lot.

We even had some names thrown out on the website.

Once it's approved by City Council, we would like to have sort of a final vote on our website and flyer neighborhoods and really encourage residents to vote for a name.

The mission and vision.

This was done quite some time ago and it's definitely open for wordsmithing.

but it's a nonprofit organization that would be organized in 2025 to support the development of physical, economic, social, and cultural revitalization of low and moderate income residents in the Charlottesville area.

The main purpose of the organization is to identify and address the needs of these individuals with a focus on education, job training and placement, redevelopment, housing stability, health, wellness, and other community social services.

To accomplish its mission, the organization has been granted the directive to secure and manage contributions, bequests, grants, and other funding from individuals, organizations, and government agencies.

I invite you to ask our council more questions on this.

But we had talked about borrowing staff from CRHA.

Essentially it would be a mirror board and with mirror staff initially when we launched this.

The hope is in the future we would look at as we did acquire more funds and build the non-profit, there would be staff associated directly to it.

Initially the main staff that you would see working with this

would involve myself, our grants management coordinator, our finance department, and of course Mr.

Sales and yourselves.

We have been looking at different activities and who would be involved with these.

We've had this in place for about a year now and everyone is feeling ready to launch this

We're looking at our grant writing and research, which right now is one person, and we'd love to be able to grow that, being about 50%.

And we're also looking at donor stewardship.

This is all about building relationships in the community.

This is gonna be for the first time something we also will be talking to the board about, looking at about 20% of the board's time.

Outreach and marketing.

and the first year is gonna be really all about marketing and letting people know what this is about, why we're doing it.

Financial management, as we said before, it will be a mere entity following almost consistently all of the SOPs that are currently in place with the exception of some new accounts.

Database management, we already,

have acquired some systems for that.

We would be generating some new forms in place, being able to provide tax letters and event planning, which is something, as I said before, we would also be doing with our residents.

At least once a week, I have someone coming to me with ideas of something they'd like to do, particularly around redevelopment.

Programs.

Barrier assistance is at the top of the list.

We cannot remove barriers, but we can help people overcome them.

So we're looking at different supports with that.

Education opportunities.

Our self-sufficiency programs often have funding just for staff and not for other services.

We are looking at scholarships.

We would really like to be able to

assist more of our community with attending higher education as well as trade schools.

Housing stability is something that's really been on our mind with this list.

We need funds, as I said before, around redevelopment efforts.

Sometimes that might be soft costs involving computer labs.

Sometimes it might be that keys have gone up for certain things that are

being built with the construction that we had not anticipated.

But we're also looking at with housing stability funds for eviction prevention and funds to be able to, we'll talk about this more with EDP, but funds so that we can actually work with individuals on programs and have incentives for them, not just to pay their rent, but that we can match what they pay

on certain months while they're attending training programs.

We're also really wanting to compensate our residents for all their hard work and it's often really challenging to find any funds that can be used for stipends or other compensation.

We wanna have really nice onsite events just like any other community would have and we wanna have the funds to do this.

We're looking at, and we do onsite celebrations also, maybe being able to hire people in the community to cater these events.

All of this is a focus on being resident led.

This nonprofit will, one of the things that will happen is we'll be talking to the Resident Service Committee about having an advisory group that will be built out over the first year for this nonprofit.

We have home ownership programs that we've been developing but there's a lot of gaps there and we don't want to just get people in the homes, we want to have aftercare services and this would be a method for us to pursue some of that.

Youth and family programming, we've just hired our first youth coordinator

so we're really excited about that.

We want that to be the beginning.

We wanna have programs at all of our sites and we wanna really be reaching out to a wide range of youth, very young youth as well as specific programs for teens and young adults.

Any questions on any of that?

The conflict of interest policy,

This would be very similar to the policy we already have.

We would look at pretty much, as I said before, mirroring this.

As far as financial data and fundraising, we would be looking at providing some projections.

We're definitely looking at fair market value of any services as we're building in what we're doing in house.

We're considering some things as well as our first year possibly bringing in a consultant to help really launch things quickly so that we can see this nonprofit up and running pretty rapidly.

So financial controls, we have some great SOPs that our finance, our controller, our finance director has put in place and we would be following those.

The bank accounts would be separate and money would be handled separately.

We, you know, would be part of our financial reporting and audit compliance.

So fundraising's gonna be a big responsibility for all of us.

We're gonna be talking about it more.

It's part of our strategic plan.

We're looking at getting a draft of our annual plan out right near the end of October.

I've already had the first president advisory board meeting, a PHAR board meeting, just this month.

So we're gonna be having a lot of meetings around this, and this will be a topic that we'll also talk about.

We're gonna be asking, you know, we're gonna be asking people what they're interested in seeing.

We're gonna be talking about, you know, some of our, how our website's getting revamped and also about events, what people wanna see us doing.

That's really the easiest step.

So once you pick a name and once City Council has given you approval to move forward with the creation of the entity, we would verify that the name is available because the Commonwealth of Virginia doesn't obviously want two entities that have similar names or names that are so close they could be confused with each other.

So we check the availability of the name and then we file the articles of organization with the SEC and you can get a certificate back.

If you do it online you can get it immediately most of the time.

The difficult piece will be really working on the organization's bylaws and making sure

Even though the organization will borrow staff from CRHA, it is a separate organization with separate books and records

and the rest of the panel.

Thank you.

It has to be clear that you're not wearing your hat as a member of the Board of Commissioners of CRHA when you're doing that.

So there are ways to ensure that and we'll put in place some protocols.

But other than that, it should be pretty straightforward.

I have a number of questions, but I don't necessarily want to go first since I know less than everybody.

But if no one else has questions.

I have some questions, but I have some for you, so go for it.

Yes.

We were looking, we were being very moderate.

We had been looking at a very modest amount initially.

Some of this was done over a year ago.

Initially we had just talked about $100,000.

Because a lot of it was going to be capacity building and getting things in place.

But we also, we really want to be able to support redevelopment efforts too.

We want to know that if there's opportunities to acquire properties that this mechanism was also in place for that.

So part of what we'll be doing that first year is making sure some of the structures are there.

We're also going to be really looking at our staffing.

This is all seems super exciting.

The two thoughts I had were one, if you're thinking about bringing in a consultant for the first year, which makes no sense, I would advise

finding someone whose responsibility will also include a bunch of fundraising.

So they're setting up the organization, but have some accountability for bringing in funds as well, because I think that's a reasonable twofer to try to get, versus just having a consultant who comes in and sets up the structure.

And then the only other thing I was going to say is that

it seems like there are a lot of really cool opportunities with setting up a C3 that's connected to the CRHA.

The mission statement seemed to focus on sort of one set of those opportunities, but didn't include, and I don't know, I don't necessarily know that you want to include it in there, I'm just like saying you said like if people could donate property or land or whatever, that's not in there and I don't know if you

I don't know if you want it in there.

That's a great suggestion.

So if I may, that's a really good point and it highlights really the distinction between the immediate next steps to create the entity and then apply for 501c3 status as opposed to the ongoing operations of the entity and some of the broader things that you can do with the entity.

And one example of that is that if in your 501c3 application you mention receiving as a donation real estate,

you have a whole other section that you need to fill out you have to be pretty specific if you start talking about real estate and the danger is that if you want to go too big right away at the stage of your 501c3 application you may not be successful if you're trying to be

He gets overly optimistic but don't have yet all the details that you would need in order to provide an estimate of the fair market value of that real estate and how you're going to acquire it, who are your donors, who are your contacts.

It's really going to force you to go down a path where perhaps you're not prepared yet.

So perhaps there can be a description of the mission of the new entity that is broad enough to contemplate

We're going to build 50 units on parcel 21, which is located at the corner of such and

because we don't have that data and you're not ready for that.

So I think there are ways to accomplish that, both getting the 501c3 designation but also not closing the door to future opportunities that may well involve the development of real estate.

Yeah, so in terms of like the timeline or kind of the action items for us, you know, is it putting together with you all a presentation at the work session that we have next or kind of what, you know, like obviously there's a lot of little things that have to happen in order for this to kind of get rolling.

The first action item will be having

Right, and so you were saying like working on a presentation and so would we would we crib from I'm assuming we would just crib from this presentation but maybe there would be specific questions that we would want to anticipate that may or may not I don't know like I just what the process right may or may not be be we might be able to anticipate them or not and then

We would work with, I'm sorry, the name of the woman who's been so helpful, who's the council, what's your name?

Dauphine Carnes.

Two, okay.

Is there a, are we on,

Council's agenda for this yet?

That's our first step is getting on the agenda.

And then putting that presentation together.

And for the presentation to City Council, to the extent they need an actual PowerPoint presentation, I would recommend paring this one down.

And we've spoken about this to council before, so it shouldn't be new news.

Do you have

Council is hopefully up to speed on the idea.

Right.

Okay.

Are there any, any,

of my fellow commissioners who would want to take this to council.

Or to partner in taking this to council.

But I feel like I don't know as much as others.

Laura probably knows the most and we can't send her anymore.

September or October, whenever we can get on the agenda.

I will gladly let you and our new commissioner, Rosenblith, I'm going to learn everybody's names to do that.

So there you go, you've got two folks.

And I'm happy to support and help any way I can.

Any other questions for now?

I'm sure we'll have more as this comes to fruition, but this really has been a long time in the works.

All right, thank you very much, Miss Gwen Matthews.

I will open it back up for more public comments, if anybody has any.

Okay, did you bring candy with you though?

She makes freeze dried candy and we spent some time together.

Thank you so much.

You also helped me put up my tip for the very first time and because of you I now know how to do it on my own.

so I appreciate that you know for real like you did it really great um hey you guys how y'all doing hi Ms. Orktern, hi Mrs. Wade, hi Mrs. Pinkston, how you doing did I say that right we don't know these aren't our names oh look at me they're like you know what I'm saying I'm addressing everybody yeah we don't even know whose names my name is Angela Carr and I'm here today and I wanted to like come to the board because

I feel like I've taken every step that I needed to take considering my bar mitt from all of CHRA properties.

There's a video from West Haven that shows me arguing with another individual that lives on CHRA properties as well.

I was never in a physical altercation.

I was never like, you know what I mean, like the aggressor or like in someone's face or like in their property, like never in that manner.

I'm sure Mr., sorry, Mr. Jones.

Yes, Mr. John Sales and Mrs. Terana Banks who was in the meeting as well.

I'm sure both of them still have the video from that incident as well so I'm just kind of asking the board if y'all could take a look at the video and see like if I deserve to be barred or not because this was back in my phones right here sorry I believe this date was April the 9th I sent Mrs. Terana Banks April the sorry April the 6th I saw Mr. John Sales on

Where was I when I seen him?

Oh, at a PHAR board meeting because I sit on the PHAR board association as well here in Charlottesville.

And my community chose me to be a part of that board.

So if I was a bad person, they wouldn't have chose me to be a part of that board.

But I see Mr. John Sales coming in because he had to come speak one day.

And I was like, hey, Mr. John, can I talk to you real quick?

And I felt like that was my chance.

So long story short, the story of what was going on on West Haven.

and he was like oh I seen that video, he was like and I heard somebody saying stop your grandkids gotta live here and I was like hey man that wasn't even me.

You know like that's how low my voice was, that wasn't even me saying that, that was the aunt of the children that lived there telling the grandmother that hey chill out, stop trying to fight because your grandkids live here, right?

So stuff really did get out of hand, I'm talking about a lot of police officers came, the individual that I brought there was the father of the children and he wanted to do a wellness check because one of his children, long story short, had

The family have reported that that child got a broken nose by an adult that wasn't supposed to be around them anyway until they're over 18 years old.

So he was concerned.

So he showed up, hey, let me see my kids.

If I can't see them, then I'm going to call the police because I want to do a wellness check to make a long story short.

things got out of hand when the mother kind of disrespected him let another one of her other children disrespect him at that point I'm like alright he's getting out of hand I walk up I mean I get out of my vehicle I walk up to the door and I'm like hey just come on you know we can we can call the police or go from that point the grandma get out really big argument blah blah blah all this stuff is happening but I contacted Mr. John Sales told him the story

in his head he replayed the video that he saw while I was telling him and I believe that he also agreed that I wasn't you know like in no big up like I wasn't doing extra stuff in the video that's what I believe so he was like hey I think you should go talk to Miss Terana Banks and I was like who is that and he was like she's the one that you would take your uh your appeal to like your grievance and stuff I'm like all right cool

I take it to Miss Terana Banks honestly in my opinion like just in a professional opinion being a founder of a candy company and like how I would treat people I'm just saying like just and I'm not trying to be disrespectful to Miss Terana Banks at all but the professionalism of how she contacted me weeks later to even give me a response on my appeal it's concerning to me because if I am

a person that doesn't even get in trouble in the community you know it made me wonder how many people are barred from a community and then don't know how to appeal it or don't know what steps to take or who to talk to and then if they did talk to someone if it even went further or if they just gave up like forget it I'm gonna just go to the property anyway but you have someone who's trying to follow the rules and I did break the rules one time but honestly like I completely forgot that the new South First Street was CHRA property

and when she asked me about it, the person that brung that to them, she didn't even know she was telling on me, she was, you know, praising me on an icy cup that I was telling her, she was like, oh, and came back to me, she was like, Angela, I think I got you in trouble, I'm like, why you say that?

She said, because I was explaining to Solithia and John was right there that you gave me real good slushies and I was like, why would I be in trouble?

So then a few days later, I got a call, I mean, either an email or a call, I believe it was a, oh, it was an email, sorry, from Miss Terana Banks, asking why I had went on the CHRA property anyway.

and I was like, wait, what?

I was like, okay, and I tried to kind of long story short explain to her, I know how that happened, boom, boom, wah wah, this lady said that, I'm sorry, my bad, I kind of forgot because I even thought Garrett was CHRA, Cilithia had to explain to me that it wasn't.

I've been raised in housing my whole entire life, like I'm talking about from a child up to now, you know what I mean?

Yeah, like I moved on my own, did my own thing, but coming back to Charlottesville, having my own kids, I now live in housing.

There's a lot of things that I'm not involved in with the kids and housing because I'm barred and I don't think it's fair.

There's a, at Crescent Halls, we made this plan last year.

I'm supposed to make homemade gingerbread houses for the elderly people and go there with directions to help them put them together.

I can't do that.

So this has been four months, almost five months of me fighting for my rights.

You know what I mean to say hey y'all when can I be unbarred because I'm not doing anything you can clearly see on the video that I was never in a physical altercation I just had some words back and forth exercising my Fifth Amendment right it doesn't say anywhere in the policy of housing or CHRA as far as I'm concerned because I read my front to back on the policies with my lease when I got it

and with PHAR when I got into the board.

There's not nothing on those policies stating that you can't have an argument on the property.

There's nothing in those policies stating that you can't go back and forth and have a heated argument with someone on the property.

But I mean, you know, violence is unacceptable.

I understand that.

But neither I or the party that went there, that got into the big argument, was in a physical altercation.

And you can see that on the video.

So Mrs. Perpetu, at the time when she was here,

She wrote up a statement and wrote me a piece of paper and said and I didn't even get it in my hand which is again I'm professional I didn't get a phone call to say you're barred I didn't get anything except a piece of mail in the mail that I barely checked because I don't really get mail you know what I mean so I got the mail like two months after I was barred and I'm like oh snap I done been over to the projects which is West Haven numerous of times let me tell you know somebody that so they don't think that I'm just like oh forget that you know what I mean

So I had a conversation with Miss Alethea about, hey, they're taking me away from West Haven when there's three families in West Haven that I pick up to take them to go meet their kids at social services.

Now they've got to walk outside.

You know what I mean?

You're restricting a lot for me, and I'm a good person.

You know what I'm saying?

On top of that, I have to pay my rent on CHRA property every month.

So I'm breaking the rules anyway every month to be able to go into CHRA's

and Mrs. Sixth Street Center and give them, you know what I mean, the money for my rent.

So how can I go about, you know what I mean, who do I talk to next other than where I am today to say hey, when?

And not only that, but Mrs. Terana Banks had, the same day she was asking me about why I was over South First Street, she told me that I would get back to you later on today with the decision.

That was almost a month ago.

So you said later on today, like as of today, now I'm gonna put you on hold and make you wait even longer.

I don't think it's fair because I'm important too.

I have things to do too.

You know what I'm saying?

I have children to lead too.

And I'm a good person, period.

Can't nobody take that from me.

So I want somebody to be like, hey, the same way y'all just kind of voted just now, I'm just being honest.

You know what I'm saying?

After you take a look at the video, like you will see that I don't deserve to be barred.

I don't understand what's taking so long.

But then when I think about it,

You know what I mean?

And I didn't put this two and two together at first, but I think it also could be a conflict of interest with me.

I mean, no, not personally myself, maybe, I don't know, but I think it could be a conflict of interest with Miss Terana Banks and my family because of my last name.

Because when we were younger, make a long story short, Mrs. Terana Banks had thought that

My mom's children were the one who had did something in the neighborhood and we weren't.

Like when the cameras came out and we all kind of got to get together, that was like an altercation that her and my mom had had.

And then years later, she had an altercation with another family member with the same last name as me and she got kicked out.

You know what I'm saying?

So it was just a lot with I guess my last name, but I've never had an altercation with you.

I even know her family, you know what I'm saying?

Like I've never had altercations or fought anybody that she personally knows so I don't understand why I am still waiting almost five months into the barment for the appeal, you know what I mean?

And I know there's like a 45 or 90 day limit on a yes or even a no, but I haven't even gotten that.

So I'm just here at the board like, hey, what do I do next?

You know what I'm saying?

Because I have things to do and missions to accomplish.

And there's kids that need me.

I don't care what nobody say.

And sometimes, you know what I mean?

Like, it make you want to be like, man, forget that barman.

All right, I'm here.

Come on.

Like, I live on the inside.

I'm not on the outside just looking in.

You know what I'm saying?

So I know what we need.

We need.

I know it.

So I need that barman gone.

Like, for real.

So thank you.

Yes, ma'am.

For sharing.

I will tell you, the board, like,

We can't decide about apartment.

And Mr.

Sales is not here tonight.

Ms. Banks is on the phone.

But I don't know if she has anything she wants to say.

But I can commit to following up with Mr.

Sales.

He's sick.

But I can follow up with him tomorrow.

I appreciate it.

For real, no joke.

Even if the answer is no, at least I get an answer.

But still, I will not understand if it's no.

I won't understand because my bar mitt says I was barred for a physical altercation.

Physical is hands on, fighting, like boom, brawling out.

I was never in a physical altercation, so I'm barred for nothing.

Yes, so this is Miss Banks.

I just wanted to say number one, we're not going to discuss this in an open forum.

Number two, Mr.

Sales is involved in every step of the process, whether he's there or not.

Okay, so I have a quick question Miss.

Terana Banks.

How long, like what is your policy on making someone wait for the bar mitt?

But that's not an answer Mrs. Terana Banks.

The answer would be umpteen amount of weeks or days.

So then again, that brings me back to it must be some type of a conflict of interest.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, I hear it.

That's all I'm saying.

Yeah, I hear it.

So again, can anyone tell me what, how long, what is the policy?

How long do you wait for your appeal to be heard?

That's crazy.

I'm not going to go back and forth in this form per Mr.

This is not how we handle things.

and so we are following our process.

So there is no set time to an appeal, that's what you said?

Okay, thank you.

I'm gonna do my own homework and research on that.

Thank you.

Any other public comments?

Hey, everybody.

I'm Brandon.

I'm your redevelopment coordinator.

I don't often give public comments, but there's a very serious matter that usually falls on me to bring to your attention, which is Commissioner Hicks is celebrating a birthday.

And I'm really excited about it.

I would also just remind everybody that the commissioner gave

An amazing speech at the BAR meeting Tuesday night.

Inspiring and just really drove it home.

Best speech I've heard you give yet and it was awesome.

Also really well dressed when you did it.

Thank you all very much, thank you.

Second, second, second.

All in favor?