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Regional Transit Partnership (2017-2025) Meeting   4/24/2025

Attachments
  • 01 RTP Agenda 4.24.25.pdf
  • 02 Draft RTP minutes 2-27-25.pdf
  • 03 Transit Planning in the City.pdf
  • 04 2024 Afton Express Annual Report.pdf
  • 04 RTP_AX Presentation_April2025.pdf
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:01:25
      Oh, there's Katy and the mic is open for the meeting.
    • 00:01:31
      So can I start now?
    • 00:01:32
      Yes.
    • 00:01:33
      Are you ready?
    • 00:01:33
      Yes.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:01:34
      Good afternoon.
    • 00:01:36
      I'd like to call to order the April 24th Regional Transit Partnership meeting and greet everyone and say hello and invite everybody here.
    • 00:01:45
      Our first item of business is to approve Katy Miller from the RVT joining us this afternoon electronically.
    • 00:01:53
      So Katy, could you unmute and tell us where you're located and your reason for electronic participation?
    • SPEAKER_00
    • 00:02:01
      Yeah, I am located in Richmond, Virginia, and I just got back from this afternoon from Northern Virginia from the National RTAP review board meeting, so I wasn't going to be able to make it to Charlottesville in time.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:02:12
      Thank you very much.
    • 00:02:14
      So with that, I will entertain a motion to invite Katy to join our meeting.
    • 00:02:19
      So moved.
    • 00:02:19
      So I have a motion, and I'm so moved.
    • 00:02:23
      Would you call for a vote, Susan?
    • 00:02:26
      Yes.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:02:29
      Supervisor McKeel?
    • 00:02:30
      Yes.
    • 00:02:31
      Councillor Pinkston?
    • SPEAKER_09
    • 00:02:32
      Yes.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:02:32
      Councillor Oschrin?
    • 00:02:34
      Yes.
    • 00:02:34
      Supervisor Pruitt?
    • SPEAKER_09
    • 00:02:36
      Aye.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:02:36
      Director Parker?
    • 00:02:40
      Miss Miller?
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:02:46
      Aye.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:02:53
      Director, Pohopow School.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:02:56
      All right, with that, welcome, Katy.
    • 00:02:58
      And I will normally start with introductions.
    • 00:03:01
      We do have a new person here today joining us, but we'll start with you, Katy.
    • 00:03:06
      Would you introduce yourself and just tell everybody what organization you represent.
    • SPEAKER_00
    • 00:03:11
      I'm Katy Miller.
    • 00:03:12
      I am with the Virginia Department of Rail and Public Transportation.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:03:16
      And I want to swing around to our left.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 00:03:21
      Christine Jacobs is a good record, Thomas Jacks.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:03:28
      Are you planning this recognition?
    • 00:03:31
      Mike Murphy, John.
    • 00:03:33
      Mike, you have a new person here today for the first time.
    • SPEAKER_09
    • 00:03:38
      Would you like to introduce them to the room?
    • 00:03:38
      I think now I would.
    • 00:03:39
      Yeah, I think we'll pass to you.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:03:40
      I've been on the job for 400 years.
    • SPEAKER_09
    • 00:03:53
      And he is filling the urban jaunt slot that's just outside the city and professionally brings some additional transit knowledge based on his role at Coronavirus.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:04:10
      Nick, can you introduce yourself and you can tell us a little bit about yourself?
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:04:15
      Sure, Nick Kilbowski here, a fan of John Corbin.
    • 00:04:19
      As Mike said,
    • 00:04:23
      Welcome, you bring a nice expertise to this great experience.
    • 00:04:39
      Well, welcome aboard.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:04:49
      Thanks for being on.
    • SPEAKER_01
    • 00:04:53
      Scott Silsdorf, Director of Parking and Transportation at the VA, Jamie Gellner, Albemarle County Public Schools, Mike Pruitt, Albemarle County City Council, Brian Pinkston, Charlottesville City Council, Diantha McKeel, Almon County Board of Supervisors, Natalie Oschrin, Charlottesville City Council, Ben Chambers, Transportation Planning Manager for City of Charlottesville, Peter Thompson, Charlottesville Area Alliance, Peter Krebs, the Piedmont Environmental Council,
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:05:21
      Devin Thompson, Transit Program Manager at Central Shenandoah Planning District Commission Taylor Jenkins, Director of Transportation at TJPDC Lucinda Shannon, Senior Regional Planner at TJPDC, and I staff this committee.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:05:37
      And Dr. Jen Thomas with TJPDC.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:05:41
      Let's go ahead and introduce the folks in the back.
    • 00:05:45
      Jen Fleischer, Brewer's Health District.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:05:47
      Claire McInberg, General Planner.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:05:50
      The next item is approval of our agenda.
    • 00:05:58
      So hearing no concerns about the agenda, I would entertain a motion to approve the agenda.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:06:24
      Supervisor McKeel?
    • 00:06:26
      Yes.
    • 00:06:27
      Councilor Pinkston?
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:06:28
      Yes.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:06:29
      Councilor Oschrin?
    • 00:06:30
      Yes.
    • 00:06:31
      Supervisor Pruitt?
    • 00:06:32
      Aye.
    • 00:06:34
      Director Parker?
    • 00:06:36
      He's not, um, Katy Miller?
    • 00:06:40
      Aye.
    • 00:06:41
      Director Silsdorf?
    • 00:06:43
      Yes.
    • 00:06:43
      And Director Pilipowski?
    • 00:06:45
      Yes.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:06:46
      Oh, right.
    • 00:06:47
      And the next time are our meeting minutes from February of 2017.
    • 00:06:55
      If everybody had a chance to take a look at them, would anybody want to be mentioned in that for a few minutes?
    • 00:07:05
      If not, I would entertain a motion to approve the master of February the 22nd.
    • 00:07:10
      So do we.
    • 00:07:11
      So Brian make a motion.
    • 00:07:12
      Second.
    • 00:07:13
      We have a little girl here.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:07:15
      Now they make a second.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:07:17
      All right, Elizabeth, you want to call the vote?
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:07:19
      Supervisor McKeel?
    • 00:07:20
      Yes.
    • 00:07:21
      Counselor Pinkston?
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:07:23
      Yes.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:07:23
      Counselor Oschrin?
    • 00:07:24
      Yes.
    • 00:07:25
      Supervisor Pruitt?
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:07:26
      Aye.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:07:28
      Ms. Miller?
    • 00:07:28
      Aye.
    • 00:07:31
      Director Silsdorf?
    • 00:07:33
      Aye.
    • 00:07:33
      And Director Poposki?
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:07:36
      Aye.
    • 00:07:36
      Oh, aye.
    • 00:07:36
      So we have minutes for matters from the public.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:07:43
      If there's anybody here from the public, you can raise your hand now, and if anybody online would like to speak at this time, please use Zoom to raise your hand.
    • 00:07:59
      We don't have anybody from the public.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:08:04
      We just can't, Randy just came in, so Randy, as you're finding a place that you can use your
    • SPEAKER_13
    • 00:08:12
      I'm Randy Parker.
    • 00:08:14
      I'm the rural representative for John.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:08:18
      Great, welcome.
    • 00:08:19
      We need to go to the chair of the place that you're taking us.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 00:08:22
      There's room over here.
    • 00:08:26
      This is the place to be.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:08:30
      We're very confident today.
    • 00:08:32
      But it's great to have everybody here.
    • 00:08:34
      And we have not seen some of you.
    • 00:08:36
      I'm looking out at the end of the day.
    • 00:08:37
      We have not seen some of you for a while.
    • 00:08:40
      but anyway, it's all good.
    • SPEAKER_01
    • 00:08:43
      All right.
    • 00:08:44
      Christine.
    • 00:08:44
      Christine.
    • 00:08:45
      It's nicely done.
    • 00:08:46
      She's been so wonderful.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:08:49
      I mean, you can stay here.
    • 00:08:50
      That works.
    • 00:08:52
      Oh, and then everybody was.
    • 00:08:55
      Our first item on the agenda is the city of Charlottesville transit planning update from Ben.
    • 00:09:01
      So Ben, if you will.
    • 00:09:03
      Lucinda, do you want me to come out there?
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:09:06
      No, I can do it from there because then people can hear you.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:09:11
      And remember to project as best you can.
    • 00:09:38
      That's good.
    • 00:09:40
      Yeah, that's great.
    • 00:09:42
      That's fine.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:09:47
      Can you hear us all live?
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:09:51
      Can you hear us all live?
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 00:09:52
      I can hear you guys.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:09:54
      Okay, good.
    • 00:09:56
      And are you seeing the presentation?
    • 00:10:00
      Just checking.
    • 00:10:01
      Okay.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:10:02
      Oh, you know, I just have to, well I do have the power
    • 00:10:08
      Yeah, if you want it.
    • 00:10:09
      So I'm going to change the application version.
    • 00:10:26
      Yeah, we have to stop showing the animation.
    • 00:10:31
      Sorry.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:10:37
      This is the Charlottesville transit plan.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:11:03
      So I wanted to provide an update on what we're doing with transit planning in the city for a couple reasons I believe.
    • 00:11:07
      One was this was a big topic of conversation towards the end of our budget cycle and it's just wrapped up a week or so ago.
    • 00:11:13
      The other is you may have heard as we were going around giving introductions that the city now has a transit planner.
    • 00:11:19
      So partly we're explaining what she does and partly we're explaining what we're going to be doing together over the next 8 to 12 months because we have a lot of work to do around transit planning both in the city and in the region as a whole.
    • 00:11:39
      So the city is playing two different roles in the transit space.
    • 00:11:43
      We are both a jurisdictional partner and a transit agency.
    • 00:11:47
      On the jurisdictional partner side, we are a member of CARTA.
    • 00:11:50
      We are a member of the RTP.
    • 00:11:51
      We're a member of Jaunt.
    • 00:11:53
      We provide local funding for operations and capital when it comes to transit services.
    • 00:11:59
      And we are working on our own citywide transportation plan coming up over the next year.
    • 00:12:04
      I'm currently working on my scoping out what that might look like but it will include transit which is a bit different than what we've done in the past where we've done a bike ped plan and a streets that work plan and we don't really fold in transit into our our greater city block transportation plans.
    • 00:12:20
      That's going to be a change that we do over the next couple years.
    • 00:12:23
      On the transit agency side, we own and operate CAT.
    • 00:12:27
      We employ a very large workforce in the city that works for CAT.
    • 00:12:30
      We own and maintain a fleet of vehicles.
    • 00:12:32
      We have a large facility out on Avon Street.
    • 00:12:35
      We also have the facility downtown that's the transfer center.
    • 00:12:39
      We operate with funding from the city and with funding from the county and with funding from the state and funding from the feds.
    • 00:12:46
      And CAT has its own plan.
    • 00:12:47
      It has a transit strategic plan.
    • 00:12:49
      that it's admitted to the state last year and is trying to work through implementing.
    • 00:12:55
      So what does this look like for our workload in the next year or so?
    • 00:12:59
      We have a lot of planning needs in the next year, so on both sides of that role that we're playing.
    • 00:13:06
      As a jurisdictional partner, we're gonna be working with y'all to figure out what the priorities are for CARTA, figure out where we're getting funding for those priorities and how we go to the legislature to ask for that funding and that capability.
    • 00:13:19
      We're also, as I mentioned, currently scoping out what our citywide transportation plan will look like.
    • 00:13:24
      So that's a big transit emphasis for us as well.
    • 00:13:28
      On the transit agency side, we are already starting to think through what is happening next year in our fiscal year budget.
    • 00:13:35
      We're also working through how do we implement our alternative fuel feasibility study, make that transition to a zero emission fleet, and that includes
    • 00:13:44
      transitioning our vehicles, expanding our fleet as well at the same time, which those two things at the same time are pretty pricey.
    • 00:13:51
      We have to figure out how to do that.
    • 00:13:53
      We're also figuring out where those vehicles fit on our current facility and how we need to change the facility and what capital needs we have at that facility.
    • 00:14:03
      We're going to be starting up NEPA work on that so that we can understand what the impacts of that would be.
    • 00:14:09
      We also want to know that we're serving people at the bus stops that they're waiting at, so we're
    • 00:14:13
      starting up a bus stop inventory and then looking at where we can expand amenities at our bus stops.
    • 00:14:19
      And then two things that we do special with our transit agency that not a lot of others do, we also run school bus service.
    • 00:14:27
      So we're also looking at how do we transition that fate to a different fuel type to make it less impactful in our environment.
    • 00:14:35
      And then recently we have been working through rezoning for our city schools.
    • 00:14:40
      That's gonna have an impact on where our school bus routes
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      those areas that we say are not the parent responsibility zones but the city's responsibility.
    • 00:14:57
      So today I kind of want to focus on these ones that are in the red.
    • 00:15:00
      The CARTA priorities, the funding model, the legislative package, and CATS expansion plans and budget prep for FY 27.
    • 00:15:12
      So first I want to start with that one because it feels like the juiciest one.
    • 00:15:16
      So during our city council budget process, there was a clear emphasis on we need to figure out how to expand our services, get to Sunday services, night services, frequent services on our regular weekday services.
    • 00:15:31
      And we didn't really think there was a way to fit it into our budget this year.
    • 00:15:39
      And so we prioritized having that conversation for the next fiscal year by starting that conversation the day after the budget was passed for this year.
    • 00:15:49
      We all sat in a room together and started thinking through what sort of things do we possibly bring to council.
    • 00:15:59
      So we are currently building out what those scenarios would look like.
    • 00:16:06
      They're going to look at different improvements like Sunday service, nighttime services, 30-minute week type services, system-wide, improved Saturday services, higher frequency services on higher ridership routes.
    • 00:16:19
      And I'm not saying we're doing all of this.
    • 00:16:21
      I'm saying we're looking at what all of
    • 00:16:42
      So this data is not us making decisions by ourselves at the city.
    • 00:16:48
      This is us knowing that we're going to have some hard conversations with our partners in the county and with our partners throughout the region about what kind of transit service we're going to need to serve and we need to start having that conversation as soon as our next budget cycle.
    • 00:17:00
      So we're getting ready so that we have that data to support those conversations with our partners.
    • 00:17:06
      That data is also going to support some of the conversations we're having at CARTA about our priorities.
    • 00:17:12
      So we are looking at starting a study that looks at our previous regional transit vision plan along with existing agency plans at John and Pat and any plans that UVA may have for connections into UVA campus.
    • 00:17:28
      We are trying to identify what are the regionally significant
    • 00:17:35
      We're not just looking at CAT with this study, but the work that we were doing for CAT's TSP and for their budget discussions for the upcoming year will be considered in this, but we're not just looking at fixed route, we're also looking at other services like commuter services at microtransit.
    • 00:17:54
      Any kind of transit thing that was in any of our plans before, we're putting that into the pile for consideration and then figure
    • 00:18:07
      The good news on this study is that we applied for a technical assistance grant with DRPT.
    • 00:18:14
      There's currently a staff recommendation that that study be funded.
    • 00:18:17
      That will go before the CTB at their next meeting, and then they will decide whether we get the funding but it seems very good likelihood that we will be able to get that funding.
    • 00:18:36
      The not so great news is the last part of that sentence though, which is the funding doesn't become available until the next fiscal year.
    • 00:18:41
      And we kind of have a really tight timeline between now and January to start figuring out what our priorities are if we're going to go to the legislature.
    • 00:18:49
      So we're just starting scoping ahead of getting that funding because we do know that one way or the other, we're going to have to look at existing conditions.
    • 00:19:24
      Getting a head start on that, but looking good that we're going to have some additional support down the line.
    • 00:19:30
      I sort of pulled these two bullets together because they're kind of two sides of the same coin.
    • 00:19:38
      So as I mentioned, we're going to be on track for a very tight turnaround to try to get into an omnibus bill.
    • 00:19:52
      So that's what that's going to look like very soon.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:19:55
      So, we're starting to work with our contacts that the legislature, TJPVC is reaching out to get some more background information on what exactly this bill is going to look like and how we might be able to participate in it.
    • 00:20:21
      to everyone that we're going to need to raise more money to put more money into transit.
    • 00:20:26
      That discussion will not just be happening in a silo of finance and budget folks.
    • 00:20:31
      They're also going to have to be interacting with that prioritization project because we need to know what is the pool of what we're prioritizing.
    • 00:20:38
      And that may also influence their discussion of, well, how much money do we actually need to figure out how to create?
    • 00:20:45
      So there's going to be some back and forth in that discussion over the next few months, but the key
    • SPEAKER_12
    • 00:20:58
      Have we started speaking with our delegates and our state senator?
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:21:02
      Not with them directly, but we were speaking with legislative age folks.
    • SPEAKER_12
    • 00:21:06
      I think you could just go ahead and set up some time.
    • 00:21:08
      I'd be happy to help with that with delegate law firm, delegate call center.
    • 00:21:14
      As soon as the DE team would be happy to sit down with us.
    • 00:21:18
      We're all local, so.
    • 00:21:19
      Yeah.
    • 00:21:19
      It would help, I think, inform this process.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:21:22
      Yeah.
    • 00:21:23
      Great.
    • 00:21:24
      So then David will help setting that up.
    • 00:21:28
      I don't have any additional information other than we have a new transit planner named Zoe Montgomery, she's sitting in the back.
    • 00:21:35
      Please say hi, please be nice.
    • 00:21:36
      And she is excited to jump on board and jump into all of this.
    • 00:21:41
      She's coming to Virginia as a brand new first time transit planner.
    • 00:21:47
      We're still figuring out what that means because we've never had a
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:21:57
      So why don't we take an opportunity, you want to just tell us a little bit about yourself and where you're from?
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 00:22:04
      Yeah, absolutely great to meet everybody.
    • 00:22:07
      I'm sure we'll be working more closely in smaller, more intimate settings.
    • 00:22:11
      I'll get to know you better then, but to start us off, I am from North Carolina, so I've been kind of in the mid-Atlantic my whole life.
    • 00:22:17
      I grew up in Charlotte, went to school in the Triangle, graduated from Duke last May with a degree in urban planning, but yes, I'm very new to the Triangle.
    • 00:22:32
      This is my first time living in Virginia, so I'm excited to be here both learning professionally and learning the area, as her husband.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:22:40
      We're glad you're here.
    • 00:22:41
      And you are from a university, are you?
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 00:22:44
      Yes.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:22:44
      So I've seen a lot of similarities with the two-year-old relationship, ABA, Conner, I've already mentioned, the UGA, and Charlottesville.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:22:52
      One of the differences you'll find is that Virginia is a still enrolled state from North Carolina.
    • 00:22:57
      That's one thing you'll have to figure out, but anyway.
    • SPEAKER_12
    • 00:23:00
      So she's a member of the NES department
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:23:21
      To keep her out of CAT, she learns the system, she learns how it operates, she learns from a great operator who knows how scheduling works, and that's a big part of her job as well, is when we make these changes, somebody has to implement them into the schedule.
    • 00:23:34
      And that's gonna be a large part of her job, so.
    • 00:23:38
      She's taken in a lot, learning a lot of transit stuff that sort of feels like second nature to us, but it's a brand new experience for her, so it's great.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:23:47
      And while you're talking about CAT,
    • 00:23:51
      Let everybody know where a cat is actually located because there may be some people in this room who do not know where a cat is located.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:23:58
      Yeah, it's out on Avon Street.
    • 00:24:01
      It's in the county.
    • 00:24:02
      It is not in city property.
    • 00:24:04
      It's just south of the city on Avon Street.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:24:06
      We like your houses.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:24:09
      Our school bus lot is right next to that as is our
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:24:17
      anything but anyway.
    • 00:24:19
      So it's not too far from ACRJ.
    • 00:24:24
      If people are sort of thinking about, it's right down the road.
    • 00:24:28
      So let me open it up for questions to Ben on his report.
    • 00:24:33
      Anybody have any questions?
    • 00:24:37
      I have one.
    • 00:24:39
      How does the, well just a comment, certainly we've struggled in the county with no Sunday
    • 00:24:47
      for hospital and people trying to get to work.
    • 00:24:51
      So that's great to hear.
    • 00:24:53
      I'm just throwing that out there that we really needed Sunday service for people to get to work.
    • 00:24:58
      So that's great.
    • 00:25:00
      How does microcad, the timing for microcad, and I'm looking at Garland who's nodding his head, so Albemarle County has
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 00:25:18
      So the number of this year for the second year, you would have the start of the third year option.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:25:25
      So at that point, the county will need to figure out what we're going to do with MicroCat as far as continuing, change it, what the model might be.
    • 00:25:35
      I just want to make sure that that's included in some of the discussions that you all have over the next year, right?
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:25:45
      That's part of the discussion that we will all have over the next year.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:25:48
      I'm not going to be here, but I want to make sure that this microphone has certainly been hugely popular.
    • 00:25:55
      But it's only in two areas in the county right now.
    • 00:26:00
      And just to add to that, we were told, Katy, were you the person that told us in one of the last meetings that the next General Assembly session will be transportation heading?
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      Somebody said that.
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      Oh, I know who it was.
    • 00:26:15
      No, it was the person that we had, Danny Plummer from the Virginia Dream Business and he said to expect the General Assembly session, remember Brian, this next session, to be transportation heavy.
    • SPEAKER_01
    • 00:26:32
      I've heard that from other sources.
    • SPEAKER_11
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      So just something to keep in mind.
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      It may be good for us.
    • 00:26:45
      Yeah, and that makes sense.
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      So maybe a good sign, I don't know.
    • 00:26:51
      But we can see dinner.
    • 00:26:52
      Yeah.
    • 00:26:52
      That's the plan.
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      Yes, money.
    • SPEAKER_09
    • 00:26:58
      I mean, November, isn't that far away?
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      And so it's obviously in the fiscal year where the county is about to approve a budget in a couple of weeks.
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      Is there not a placeholder
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      Yes, I just couldn't remember the timing in my head, that's all.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 00:27:14
      I told my own brain, couldn't remember if it was a year or exactly.
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      I remember from your budget, I think you put $1.3 billion in as your cost for the program.
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      That's to finish this year in, I don't know how many months of the next fiscal year.
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      I think there's a decision that we make.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:27:35
      We have to make the decision about the budget, right?
    • 00:27:39
      Any other?
    • 00:27:40
      Questions for Ben?
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:27:44
      All right, thank you.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:27:46
      Thank you very much.
    • 00:27:48
      Our next presentation is the Africa Express Annual Report, and we have Devon Thompson to make that report.
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      She is from the Central Shenandoah Plating District Commission, and I found out she was a 9-1-1 down stand.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:28:04
      So welcome.
    • 00:28:11
      My co-worker Danielle did an amazing job pulling all this together.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:28:17
      Do you want folks to interrupt you with questions?
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:28:30
      Yes, feel free to interrupt me.
    • 00:28:32
      I am interruptable.
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      Go for it anytime I'm up here, even when I'm sitting down.
    • 00:28:40
      So again, thank you so much for taking the time to let me talk to you about Afton Express.
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      You all know who I am by now, so I'll skip that part, but the Central Shenandoah Planning District Commission and your sister agencies with TJPC, we do administer brake bus transit of which Afton Express is a route.
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      So today I'll give you a brief overview through Afton Express and go through some of the annual report that you all saw.
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      Go through some of those ridership and passenger profiles and then end with some current and future outlooks.
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      So first of all, you would not be here today without our partners, which many of you were definitely involved in that.
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      So Albemarle County, Augusta County, Charlottesville, Stanton, Waynesboro, University of Virginia, along with DRPT.
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      So through the years of studies and financial commitments, you all have brought to life a very vital service for connecting our communities.
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      So for that, I say thank you.
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      So through DRPT, we were able to start a service with demonstration grant funds, which has an 80-20 match just to start a service, make sure it's viable, make sure it's feasible.
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      But we had many studies showing that it was feasible, it was viable.
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      So this was just to get that momentum going.
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      And so from there, we switched over to 5311 rural funding.
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      which is a 50-50 match.
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      So that was an increase for our partners.
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      So we did go to DRPT and we made an application for and received transit ridership incentive program funding which eases that local match requirement while letting us work to expand the system.
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      So through TRIP, we can keep that local partner match low while we go through those planned expansions
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      and incrementally increasing those costs over the next five years for which the grant period goes through.
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      So just to kind of give you all a snapshot to familiarize yourself with our routes and our stops, trips do originate on the western portion of this mountain, starting with Stanton Crossing Park and Ride Lot, Augusta Health, which is in Fishersville, and then Gainesboro at their Park and Ride Lot.
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      After traversing the mountain, buses will stop at UVA at both academic and medical departments,
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      West Main Street and Amtrak, the Downtown Transit Center, the Omni Hotel and Downtown Mall, as well as Byman's and 5th Street Station.
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      And so continuing with this quick snapshot, fares are $3 per one-way trip, but we do have an option of a 10-trip fare card for $25 available.
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      UVA-affiliated riders have the benefit of Wahoo Commute,
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      Which allows their employees to ride for free and I will touch more on that a little bit later because it's such a great program and you don't pull it out by itself And so while riding in plush comfortable seats riders also have access to free Wi-Fi And so all eligible all riders are eligible to sign up for rideshare which is a joint program between TJPDC and CSPDC for commuter services and
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      So if they are commuting and using alternative modes of transportation at least two times a week, they're eligible for a guaranteed ride home program in case an emergency comes up.
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      They have the voucher or reimbursement to get back home for that emergency.
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      So performance metrics.
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      We are very excited to be seeing the ridership that we see.
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      We made these plans pre-pandemic.
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      So we had pre-pandemic numbers and then we had pandemic actual numbers.
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      Seeing these numbers is great to see.
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      But as you can see, we do have our usual trend of lower ridership in summer months and winter holidays just due to people taking those vacation days and commuting less to work.
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      But to kind of give you a comparison as you look at those month by month numbers, when we first started in 21 and 22, total month of passenger trips averaged a little over 700.
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      so then in 2023 we grew that to 1300 average daily trips and then in 2024 we averaged close to 1600 so as you can see in this slide you can see that very large increase in ridership so we hope to continue to see that growth trend through the next years so just to kind of break down that 2021 that was 1900 passenger trips going up to 10,000
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      then 16,000 and then we had 19,000 trips in 2024.
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      I won't give you the numbers for 2025 yet because we had a lot of snow days in January and February but March is looking good.
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      So through our creating this annual report we have an annual survey that we put out to all of our riders just to not only have all of our quantitative data but getting some qualitative data as well.
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      So we ask them an array of questions and they're kind enough to answer because we do incentivize that with a prize.
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      So as mentioned in the annual report, most of our respondents are riding the bus regularly.
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      That's about a large majority of folks riding either three to four days a week or even all five days.
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      So we're also pleased to see that mix, that well-rounded split of rider longevity.
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      So not only do you see
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      A few folks that are just starting out with Riding Act and Express, but we also see a lot of folks that have been riding for longer than a year.
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      So we're happy to see that we're not only are we maintaining some ridership, but we're also still getting some new folks in.
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      And it's always a pleasure to meet the day one riders when we do pop up events there.
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      So additionally you can see, and what is expected, that most of our writers fall within that typical working span of 25 to 64 years, which is in line with the commuting nature of our service.
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      Racial and ethnic background questions were also included in the surveys, so we found that Ashland Express writership generally reflects the racial makeup of the Stanton Augusta-Wainsboro area,
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      with folks predominantly identifying as white, but also with some smaller percentages of folks that identify as black, Asian, or two different races and about 10% of folks that identify as Hispanic and Latino.
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      So then breaking down our trip,
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      Profile, as expected, most commuters are starting over on the western end of the mountain and heading over to you all here.
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      And that was about 95% of our respondents.
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      But we do have about 3% of you folks that do the reverse commute.
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      So they're starting over here in Charlottesville and Albemarle and heading over to Stanton Augusta and Queensborough.
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      So I always say kudos to those folks that make that reverse commute work because we always push it out as Stanton Augusta to Charlottesville.
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      and schedule, bus schedules are very hard to read.
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      So, so the Waynesboro Park and Ride Lot and UVA Moore Health Sciences Library and the West Hospital Complex continue to be our most utilized stops.
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      We found that in the last year that we did the annual survey and we found it out as well this year.
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      And then for the AM trip and PM trip distribution, we find for the 4 AM trips, trips two and four are most utilized of about 33 to 34% respectively.
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      and Trip 3 with a close third.
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      So departures for those times, they're leaving the valley around 5.30 to 7.30 in the morning and they're arriving here between about 6.30 and 8.30.
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      And then from the 5 p.m. trips, folks are typically using trips 2 and 3 and they're the most populated and they're leaving here between the hours of 3.30 and about 5.53.
    • 00:36:31
      So impact.
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      I could go on and on about impact, but I broke it down into three main bullet points.
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      So for environmental, so not only are we seeing decreased single occupancy vehicles on the I-64 corridor, that's also decreasing CO2 emissions.
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      So from 21 respondents that are actively logging their trips and connecting VA app that's through Rideshare,
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      We were able to do some back-end calculations and see that just those 21 folks saved 180,000 pounds of CO2 emissions just in one year.
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      And then not only that, but they're taking about 3,500 single occupancy vehicles off of that corridor as well.
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      And then economically, as noted in the report, commuters are saving money on gas, vehicle repairs, and parking.
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      They can spend that money here at lunch.
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      They can spend it back in Charlotte, state of Augusta, Waynesboro and back into their communities.
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      Saving money is definitely one of the widely cited reasons for why riders are choosing to take Afton Express.
    • 00:37:36
      Again, through that calculation and through the Connecting VA app, we were able to just begin with those 21 respondents.
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      They collectively saved over $32,000 on gas and over $64,000 on vehicle wear and tear just within the year.
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      And then last but certainly not least is quality of life.
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      We have very happy commuters.
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      They're able to relax.
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      They're able to reclaim their personal time.
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      They take naps, read, listen to music.
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      They're reducing safety risks.
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      So some of the workers are working 12 hour shifts.
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      and then they're able to just get on the bus and relax on their way home rather than trying to drive tired.
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      Folks have access to broader job opportunities and trainings and they also are meeting members of their community that they might not otherwise meet.
    • 00:38:25
      Something I found in going through the annual survey responses were that they loved that they were building this community on the bus, which is very adorable.
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      So some highlights.
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      Like I said, I wanted to pull out Wahoo Commute because it's such a great program.
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      We were immensely excited when UVA implemented this program.
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      So under this, again, all UVA affiliates ride Afton Express for free, and UVA parking and transportation subsidizes those fare costs.
    • 00:38:56
      So beyond the beneficial opportunities for employees, as well as bolstering our ridership, it also is setting a precedent about how employers can deploy commuter services as benefits
    • 00:39:07
      Kendall always says that we are the gold standard of partnerships, and you all are the gold standard of being a partner.
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      So it works out very well.
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      Those employees are getting free rides, but they're also logging their trips and getting that money back into their paycheck.
    • 00:39:26
      So to be eligible, they do forfeit their daily pass, correct?
    • 00:39:29
      But they can still... Their annual pass.
    • 00:39:32
      Their annual pass, but then they can get daily passes, correct?
    • 00:39:35
      Yes.
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      It's a little bit of a trade-off, but it's a very good trade-off indeed.
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      So this also helps UVA meet their carbon neutrality goal by 2030.
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      Also during the year, we relocated a few stops on the western side of the mountain in Stanton and Fishersville.
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      In Stanton, we have been stopping at the Stanton Mall, which those of you that don't know, it was a pile of rubble.
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      So not a place that you want to wait for the bus.
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      So luckily, Stanton had their Stanton Crossing Park and Ride lot built.
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      That was a VDOT project, so we now stop over at Stanton Park and Ride.
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      That lot is also served by the Virginia Breeze, which is operated by the state.
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      And then we also relocated the Fishersville stop from the Bright Transit Facility in Fishersville, and we moved that to Augusta Health, who was one of our Bright planning partners.
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      They had reached out saying that they had a few folks doing their reverse commute.
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      I would like to see that stop closer so we were able to, it's just a few minutes down the road, so we were able to shift that with little shape-up passengers.
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      And then lastly, we also launched our mobile data collection system, which made the changeover for manual data entry to electronics, so that gives staff
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      useful performance data more heavily than on off counts for like a week and then having that data for a year.
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      So that system also included GPS on the buses.
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      So in the future, we will be able to implement a third party Where's My Bus app.
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      And then looking ahead, we have some exciting plans on the horizon.
    • 00:41:16
      So we actually just issued a notice to proceed to a consultant for technical assistance.
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      analyzing ridership data and rider input to consider both possible service changes to Afton Express to better align with folks' schedules and passenger needs.
    • 00:41:33
      So since inception, Afton Express work schedules have changed.
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      Like I said, we launched in a pre-pandemic time.
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      Things have changed.
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      We wanted to take this opportunity and improve upon the schedule in a way that not only utilizes our entire fleet of three buses with a spare, but also continuing to serve our current riders as well as opening up potential for new riders.
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      I know a lot of people have requested an 8, 8.30 arrival time, so we are going to work our very hardest to hit those peak times that people have been requesting almost since day one.
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      and then the Crozet Park and Ride Lot that's going to be constructed off of I-64.
    • 00:42:14
      Once that has been constructed, we will be stopping there and that should just open up some access for some additional Albemarle County commuters as well as maybe some Nelson County commuters.
    • 00:42:26
      And then lastly, we made application for DRPT's Commuter Assistant Project Grant for Transit Marketing.
    • 00:42:32
      Like Ben said,
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      We have been approved for the staff recommended scenario for that so as long as that is approved by CTD we will have a marketing grant that will allow us a multi-product marketing campaign that will include photography as well as a graphic designer to create some materials for some of those campaigns and some TV ads as well as some digital marketing like geofencing, weather apps just to do a full comprehensive
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      marketing to keep that ridership growth trend that we saw earlier.
    • 00:43:08
      So like I said, during the annual report we give folks time to give us feedback on how we're doing.
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      A lot were overwhelmingly great.
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      There's always complaints, but I didn't put those up here.
    • 00:43:21
      I slipped through and found two that I thought were pretty good.
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      So most centered around saving money.
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      Again, reclaiming time, environmentalism, opening up job opportunities, reduce stress.
    • 00:43:34
      Again, that found community.
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      Praise for the drivers.
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      They definitely have their favorite drivers.
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      and also saving on wear and tear for their vehicles.
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      So I feel like their stories definitely send strong messages to folks to let you know the impact that you're having on people's daily lives.
    • 00:43:52
      And so that's it for me.
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      I will open it up for y'all to ask me any questions.
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      Need any other additional information?
    • SPEAKER_12
    • 00:44:00
      Yeah, that's a really fantastic question.
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      I should know this, I think, but
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      Who actually owns the buses?
    • 00:44:08
      Is it Stanton?
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:44:09
      So we have a different model.
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      We're, as DRP team knows, we're always a unique model.
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      We're never one to follow the mold.
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      So we actually, as the PDC, we received the federal and state grants, federal and state funds, and then we contract out the service.
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      So we have a contracted service provider who provides the buses, the operators, the mechanics, all of that is lumped into a
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      But it's managed by us, by the CSPDC.
    • SPEAKER_12
    • 00:44:41
      Is it the SAWPDC?
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:44:44
      No, it's just Central Shenandoah Planning District Commission, but to make matters even more confusing, we oversee two metropolitan planning organizations, Stanton Augusta, Waynesboro, MPO, and also Harrisonburg, Rockingham.
    • 00:44:57
      We do not follow the multiple.
    • SPEAKER_01
    • 00:45:06
      Maybe it's in the report and it's above I didn't see but have you all done the math about how much like to numeritize how much people save like in terms of the air and air it could be numeritized.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:45:22
      Yeah we did it through the connecting VA so like just the folks that are utilizing that and then projecting out those kind of costs I'm sure we can probably extrapolate it to like true based on our ridership how much that is affecting but
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      We did it based on just those respondents who were actively logging their trips.
    • SPEAKER_01
    • 00:45:41
      That's very powerful because we always hear how much stuff costs, right?
    • 00:45:46
      But how much you're not spending is something that nobody ever hears.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:45:53
      Very cool to have all these cars off the road.
    • 00:45:57
      So these are not electric.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:45:59
      No they are not, they are diesel buses that are going up and down.
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      We let the big guys do all the heavy lifting on finding out what's the best model for electrification.
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      It seems right now that going over the mountain, I don't know, it would have to be, I don't know how long we would have to wait for the technology to get to that point because I know a lot of folks that are using it but they're just using like for
    • 00:46:28
      flat distances because once you get onto a hill, it's a hard one.
    • SPEAKER_13
    • 00:46:33
      As an EV owner, I will say it's really exciting to watch your state of charge actually increase without going down.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:46:44
      Of course not.
    • 00:46:45
      We let the big guys handle that, but I don't know that we have a pier that would even be going across a mountain, like after a mountain to duplicate what they would be doing.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:46:54
      There's a few in Colorado with their
    • 00:46:57
      It's a very different kind of like, it's much shorter run, but they're using EVs, but they've had some different difficulties with those.
    • SPEAKER_13
    • 00:47:08
      I would be opposed to testing driving the Monta Barre 35s over the hill in the back, we'll see.
    • 00:47:19
      It's a pretty good test if you want to tow it back.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:47:41
      Yes, we had funding commitments that was part of getting the demonstration grant.
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      We had to show that we did have financial commitment.
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      So we received financial commitment from all of our partners, the east and the west side.
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      I believe it is that 50-50 down the middle for each side and then the different metrics were based on the different sides of the mountains.
    • 00:48:03
      I know Stanton Augusta, Waynesboro, they split it.
    • 00:48:06
      by the third but over here UVA takes on a lot of it and then Albemarle and Charlottesville take on the split of that difference.
    • 00:48:15
      So we had that initial four-year commitment and then I believe we fill out the Zoom grant application through Charlottesville and I think Albemarle shares that as well so we've been filling that in for each year for our local funding commitment.
    • 00:48:29
      So like I said
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      We had those original figures and then we applied for chips and that has been decreased, well incrementally, a few years ago.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:48:37
      And we want to take this time to specifically thank Scott and the University of Michigan.
    • SPEAKER_13
    • 00:48:49
      And our extraordinary employees are also very happy.
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      We do a $500 a month raffle as an incentive.
    • 00:49:05
      I was kind of hoping that one of our winners wasn't at an express ride yet.
    • 00:49:09
      Not yet.
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      We've got everybody else, walkers, bicyclists, cab riders, who have not only not had to pay to ride, but have been bossed or parked a car, but they've then also gotten this extra incentive.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:49:23
      It's a great program.
    • 00:49:24
      Whenever we do pop-ups, we always like, have you liked the free rides?
    • 00:49:28
      Or like a static that big?
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:49:29
      So would you explain Scott to us, you referenced they gave up something, and I didn't understand quite what it was.
    • SPEAKER_13
    • 00:49:36
      Right, so, and that's what I said.
    • 00:49:37
      I probably should bring Patrick in here and do a nice update.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 00:49:40
      In fact, he owes me a report due tomorrow for an Obama Commute update since we've been launched for about six months.
    • SPEAKER_13
    • 00:49:45
      But essentially, the way it works is we have a commuter incentive agreement.
    • 00:49:49
      and so if you're an annual permit holder, if you're a parking permit, most of our permits are annual, you have to give that up in order to get the $1.50 a day for riding or walking, using anything that doesn't take a vehicle to browse.
    • 00:50:05
      So that's what you're giving out, but then knowing that not everybody can ride transit or walk every single day, we allow them to buy a daily parking permit, but only in a commuter parking, so a JPJ.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 00:50:22
      Anybody else have any questions?
    • 00:50:25
      You said that the stop and stand used to be at the mall.
    • 00:50:28
      Yes.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:50:29
      So where is it now?
    • 00:50:29
      It's at the Stanton Crossing Park and Ride.
    • 00:50:32
      So Stanton has like that big swath of development that can land that's ready for development.
    • 00:50:40
      So one of the projects was a park and ride lot as well as a thoroughfare road.
    • 00:50:45
      So they have a brand new road crossing way that cuts through there as well.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:50:53
      Thanks.
    • SPEAKER_09
    • 00:50:56
      We should talk about Crozet.
    • 00:51:00
      Oh yes, we have a meeting with Albemarle tomorrow about the parking lot.
    • 00:51:07
      Of Johnson's surface area and Crozet alone for workforce circulating over 25,000 commuters a year.
    • 00:51:18
      We've been talking about stopping there in addition to our current stops as well and I want to collaborate on our messages.
    • 00:51:27
      Also, we're able to do more runs a day than you all are and I wonder if in service to the people of Crozet, if there is some service that you might run at different times than you do now
    • 00:51:42
      just to Crozet and then we could, you know, it's like connecting the routes so we can get people into the city and Albemarle County more often by combining our efforts.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:51:53
      Yeah, that's a good idea.
    • 00:51:54
      Yeah, that's great.
    • 00:51:55
      Yeah, shoot me an email or I can shoot you an email and we can get a meeting on the books.
    • 00:52:02
      That would be a great connection.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 00:52:05
      That's why we're all at the table, so we can all talk.
    • 00:52:07
      That's a two-minute question.
    • 00:52:09
      I'm sorry if you addressed this and I missed it.
    • 00:52:11
      But is this open to everyone, not just commuters?
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:52:14
      Yes, it is open to everyone.
    • 00:52:16
      So we do tell folks, like a lot of our area residents will be like, I need to get over to UVA for a medical appointment.
    • 00:52:24
      We always tell them, I always suggest taking that last route, getting over to Charlottesville, grabbing lunch at Wegmans or Fifth Street Station.
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      while you wait for the next bus that comes across because there is that gap because it is for commuters but if you can make the schedule work beyond community needs.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 00:52:42
      And we all know Afton Mountain can be particularly treacherous in weather.
    • 00:52:46
      Has that been a barrier for you at all or have you been around every time?
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:52:50
      Yeah, we are very cautious about weather.
    • 00:52:53
      Usually fog we seem to be pretty okay with but any type of inclement weather like I said those snow days in January and February
    • 00:53:01
      The buses are not four-wheel drive so we do err on the side of caution which luckily right now most of our riders do own a car and have the option to telework in those departments too so we take that into consideration when we're calling those snow days it'll be a little bit more of especially because the bus starts so early versus bright starting at like 5 a.m that are getting up at 3 a.m to get the buses ready to go so we are cognizant that
    • 00:53:30
      We do have a little bit of a leeway with those workers that are having their own means of transportation when we're able to telework, so we're a little bit more vigilant on calling back service.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 00:53:42
      To reserve a spot, can you just show up?
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:53:46
      Yes, yeah, it's public transportation still.
    • 00:53:48
      It's just labeled with that commuter route.
    • 00:53:50
      So yeah, you just show up to the bus stop and board the bus.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 00:53:54
      No reserves.
    • 00:53:55
      You're not reserving.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 00:53:57
      How do you manage, like is there ever like too many people?
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:54:05
      We actually just encountered this problem this year which is a good problem to encounter which is another reason why we're looking at that schedule to try to get that frequency a little bit tighter because the bus is traversing such a long route and the trips are linked so like two and four are linked
    • 00:54:23
      So the bus, too, comes over, comes back, starts its route again, and comes back over.
    • 00:54:27
      So we're hoping that that consultant can minimize that time gap a little bit.
    • 00:54:33
      Because right now, if the bus were full, then I would have to wait if it hits capacity, which right now I think it's hit capacity like three or four times.
    • 00:54:44
      So luckily, hopefully, that consultant looking at the schedule.
    • 00:54:47
      So if you pop on the bus that's full, you can say, oh,
    • 00:54:50
      Only 30 minutes, I can go get a coffee while I'm here for the next class.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 00:54:54
      And then yeah, is it like a card?
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:54:58
      So yeah, we do accept cash.
    • 00:55:00
      We do not have an app just yet.
    • 00:55:02
      We're not as large of a service to really start looking at that just yet for fair collections, but it's either cash or we do have the 10 right, fair card.
    • 00:55:13
      So folks who are commuting regularly usually get a fair card if they're not part of the
    • 00:55:22
      And you can get a change?
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:55:25
      No, we cannot get a change.
    • 00:55:27
      There you go, okay.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:55:27
      So you have to have those three Chris dollar bills.
    • 00:55:31
      Or coins.
    • 00:55:32
      We do not discriminate.
    • 00:55:46
      No, I did not say they're between about 28 passengers, 30, 32.
    • SPEAKER_09
    • 00:55:56
      Mobility devices?
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:55:57
      Yes, all of them are accessible, all buses.
    • SPEAKER_09
    • 00:56:02
      How many mobility devices could you accommodate on a given trip?
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:56:06
      I know at least one, but maybe two.
    • 00:56:08
      Thank you for that.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:56:16
      Really great presentation and fascinating information.
    • 00:56:20
      Lucinda is going to share out your presentation as well as the presentation that was in our packet to separate it out from the packet.
    • 00:56:30
      And I think because everybody might like to have that, I know I'd like to share it with more supervisors.
    • 00:56:34
      Yes, and always feel free to email me if you need any additional information.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 00:56:39
      Sorry, I have one more question.
    • 00:56:41
      So for the Charlottesville to Shenandoah Valley commuters, the stand crossing seems kind of in the middle of nowhere.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:56:58
      Where do they go from there?
    • 00:56:59
      Yes, so once they go from there,
    • 00:57:03
      You do have to walk a little ways to get to Route 250, which would be where you could pick up a bright bus as long as it's during bright hours.
    • 00:57:13
      Our long-term goal is to connect bright with Afton, but right now we just don't see that.
    • 00:57:19
      We see some need, but not enough to prompt starting the buses at like 5 a.m. for three people.
    • 00:57:26
      Right now, it's not connecting as well.
    • 00:57:28
      I think, again, like that last morning run on Afton, you might be able to see some connection.
    • 00:57:34
      But otherwise, yeah, if they got off there, it would either be someone would be picking them up, or they could make the walk to 215 in Flagtown, a bright bus.
    • 00:57:45
      Thanks.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:57:46
      And I do have another question.
    • 00:57:50
      What accommodation do you all suggest
    • 00:57:53
      Everybody, all parents have an issue with they've gone somewhere and the child gets sick in the middle of the day and they need to come home.
    • 00:58:01
      What are the accommodations that they can tap into?
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:58:05
      Yes, so they are eligible for the Guaranteed Right Home Program if they're signed up through Rideshare, which was our shared program with TJPDC.
    • 00:58:14
      So if, yeah, they get a call from the school, your child is violently ill, please come pick them up.
    • 00:58:20
      they can get a ride either Uber or a taxi now and they get that voucher or reimbursement forms that they can later put into TGP to see if you see to get reimbursed for that ride so we do acknowledge yeah like you're taking a chance like
    • 00:58:39
      coming 45 minutes away from your home and like what happens if your child gets sick.
    • 00:58:43
      So we do have that program in place.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:58:46
      As many of us have experienced over the years.
    • 00:58:49
      Doesn't happen a lot, but it does happen a lot.
    • 00:58:53
      Any other comments, questions?
    • 00:58:57
      This was really great.
    • 00:58:58
      Thank you very much.
    • 00:59:02
      All right.
    • 00:59:04
      Dan, I think you're on again.
    • 00:59:05
      You're going to give us an update on the regional transit authority.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:59:09
      Yeah, so I'm not going to get up into a presentation for this one.
    • 00:59:13
      I may become a friend if I miss anything.
    • 00:59:16
      So we've had two different meetings of the CARTA board at this point.
    • 00:59:20
      We've kind of been doing the mundane details of CARTA.
    • 00:59:25
      We've been working through the bylaws, which we've not adopted.
    • 00:59:45
      We've directed a staff to come back with a recommendation of different potential partners that we could bring to the table in the short term.
    • 00:59:52
      It may be a situation where we only bring one recommendation, UVA being the most obvious one.
    • 01:00:00
      But there may be other opportunities for bringing people to the table for that.
    • 01:00:16
      And we have also determined that it's time to start talking to our finance people.
    • 01:00:22
      They've been sort of clamoring, I don't know if that's been the case with the county, but I've had our finance and budget people say, what's this card thing?
    • 01:00:29
      What are you guys talking about in there?
    • 01:00:31
      And I said, you know, let us get to the table first and then we'll bring you guys along.
    • 01:00:35
      And so it's time to catch them up.
    • 01:00:37
      I know Ann is going to her
    • 01:00:44
      We're having the same conversations on the city side and we'll be scheduling soon a conversation between both centers together so that we can start talking about sort of the nitty-gritty details about funding and things like that.
    • 01:00:58
      So those are sort of the big points.
    • 01:01:00
      Did I miss anything else that we're working on for Christine?
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 01:01:10
      As we pass some of these documents, like the bylaws, I'd be good to share them out with this group.
    • 01:01:18
      Because we have asked a few of them for this group to see them.
    • 01:01:23
      Other than that, are there any other questions?
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:01:25
      That question about non-voting members, I presume it's the card the board makes that decision.
    • 01:01:32
      Is there a criteria, thought process,
    • 01:01:38
      speaking as a representative of a nonvoting member who will still want to have a voice in things, but understanding this is a different organization, it may not be appropriate to be sitting at the table like I am right now, but curious what the process might be.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 01:01:52
      The process is basically the, if that's correct me if I'm wrong, that the elected members would be the ones extending an invitation to the nonvoting members.
    • 01:02:01
      We did start the conversation at our last meeting and talk about, you know, there are some options here.
    • 01:02:14
      if any of them make sense being at the table.
    • 01:02:18
      So we had some deliberation at the last meeting.
    • 01:02:21
      I think we're going to continue having more deliberation at the next meeting because we didn't really come to a very clear consensus about what the direction of that needed to be.
    • 01:02:29
      It seemed that UVA was the most obvious one to bring to the table as a partner, just being the largest regional employer and also a major destination for people in the region.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:02:50
      I missed that meeting, so I'll look back at the recording.
    • 01:02:52
      Those are recorded, right?
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 01:02:53
      Yeah, they're on the transit planning website, on the TJP website.
    • 01:02:58
      There's a Carter page, yeah.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 01:03:01
      And they are open public, of course.
    • 01:03:04
      I will say, though, that they're not in this room.
    • 01:03:07
      We've been meeting in the conference room.
    • 01:03:09
      So if you come to this door, you're going to be locked out.
    • 01:03:13
      You need to use the other door, because we had somebody that tried to get to the last meeting, and this door was locked.
    • 01:03:18
      So I'm just making sure that everybody is aware.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 01:03:20
      Thank you.
    • 01:03:21
      Now that we're going to be going every other month, we can also move them into here.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 01:03:23
      Well that's fine too.
    • 01:03:25
      I was just saying that I just want to make sure people knew that they can't get in that door.
    • 01:04:09
      It will be a much leaner organization.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 01:04:14
      But we do have some committees that people could be tapped to serve on.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 01:04:19
      And we are talking through how to bring an amendment to the bylaws so that that's easier for us to fill those committees.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 01:04:27
      But again, any revisions to the bylaws are going to have to be the code.
    • 01:04:30
      As of right now, the limitations are written into the left section.
    • 01:04:36
      Any other comments or questions?
    • SPEAKER_12
    • 01:04:39
      I'll just reiterate what I said earlier, the sooner we can start talking with our delegates and our Senator about next year's General Assembly, the better.
    • 01:04:51
      They're really great to work with.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 01:04:54
      And it's been several years now, but we did invite Senator Deeds.
    • 01:04:59
      to a regional transit partnership meeting a few years ago to talk to them about that this was coming.
    • 01:05:04
      Of course, he has a lot on his plate that this is coming, but you're exactly right.
    • 01:05:08
      We do need to start reaching out.
    • 01:05:12
      All right, if that's, thank you so much.
    • 01:05:15
      That was really great.
    • 01:05:17
      Our transit provider update, that item is next.
    • 01:05:22
      And Jamie, you are first on the list at Clark County Public Schools.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 01:05:26
      Okay, I always think it's, you know,
    • 01:05:28
      What will people be interested in and what we're working on?
    • 01:05:32
      We got a lot of stuff going on internally.
    • 01:05:35
      We are upgrading to a new routing software.
    • 01:05:39
      So we start training next week.
    • 01:05:41
      That'll be a heavy look for us.
    • 01:05:42
      And we'll be running two databases to start the school year next year.
    • 01:05:46
      But it will open up an opportunity for us to use a where's the bus type of app next year.
    • 01:05:51
      So we'll pilot that first and then have that hopefully by springtime for our parents.
    • 01:05:58
      and we too are starting a fleet advisory committee so you may or may not know but across the school division all the departments they order all their own non-school bus vehicles so we're kind of pulling all of that in and we'll do all the maintenance repairs which we do anyways but we will be monitoring all the utilization
    • 01:06:21
      of those vehicles and prioritizing how they'll be used next year.
    • 01:06:25
      So we formed a team with some principals and other department staff and we have our first meeting next week.
    • 01:06:33
      We've just seen like all of the other partner agencies, increases in special needs and needing to use third party vendors and the schools have a lot of different uses during the day that they're using non-school buses for.
    • 01:06:48
      So trying to get a hold on the vans
    • 01:06:52
      So, that's something.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 01:06:54
      Well, I know Landslide Campus has appreciated the band that's over there to get kids for funeral services.
    • 01:07:00
      So, thank you for that.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 01:07:01
      Yeah, I mean the school is just, they want more and more and we're trying to be creative with how we heal more.
    • 01:07:07
      Yeah.
    • 01:07:07
      Any questions for Jamie?
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 01:07:09
      Yeah, I've got to ask a nerdy question.
    • 01:07:11
      What is the software that you're switching from and what are you switching to?
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 01:07:14
      So, we use Tyler Technologies and it's just, it's an upgrade from their software but it has a few
    • 01:07:21
      or gentlemen of AI and things that should be more helpful.
    • 01:07:24
      So it's VersaTrans up to they call it school transportation.
    • 01:07:29
      But it's the same software company.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 01:07:35
      Any other questions for Jamie?
    • 01:07:38
      We're glad you're here today.
    • 01:07:39
      And Scott, UTS.
    • SPEAKER_13
    • 01:07:44
      Yes, this semester is rapidly winding up so we are in our last full week of
    • 01:07:52
      when the students start their exams next week.
    • 01:07:56
      And then shortly thereafter, we'll be able to call recess service, which basically means UTS will be Monday through Friday all the way up until just classes resuming in the fall in August.
    • 01:08:07
      So summer is a little bit of a breather.
    • 01:08:10
      It's still Monday through Friday with summer session and with our health system community.
    • 01:08:14
      So not a whole lot of updates.
    • 01:08:17
      We took our EGSs.
    • 01:08:19
      They have been in service.
    • 01:08:20
      We're doing sort of
    • 01:08:32
      and there's about 75 people that we can no longer park on site.
    • 01:08:36
      And so we're using our EGS and they've been wonderful for getting folks back and forth from 2420 Old Ivy Road across under the railroad tracks and turning right onto Ivy Road.
    • 01:08:48
      And so you've probably seen them if you've been on 250.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 01:08:50
      In terms of the smaller buses?
    • 01:08:52
      Yes, those are our new buses.
    • 01:08:53
      That's correct, yes.
    • SPEAKER_13
    • 01:08:55
      Because they're the one that does road work.
    • 01:08:56
      Yep, they've been under the tracks and very renewable.
    • 01:09:06
      We have student operations interns that we have one this year who's been really good on Instagram.
    • 01:09:14
      I'm not much on social media, but follow UTS on Instagram.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 01:09:18
      The newest video that you all put out with the slide, yeah the Chacha slide, that was great.
    • 01:09:24
      I was told, and I haven't been able to verify this, but I was told that that was the highest
    • SPEAKER_13
    • 01:09:39
      We took the bus to the lawn.
    • 01:09:40
      That's also an earlier reel, I guess it's called a reel, on Instagram.
    • 01:09:48
      I hope that should work.
    • 01:09:50
      So we took the buses onto the lawn on April 3rd, I think, and students loved them too.
    • 01:09:56
      So yeah, everybody's looking at it, everybody's enjoying it.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 01:10:01
      They're adorable.
    • 01:10:02
      They're really good.
    • 01:10:04
      As someone who represents a learning room,
    • SPEAKER_13
    • 01:10:08
      I have a meeting tomorrow to start talking about some other ways we can start using them in other interesting ways.
    • 01:10:21
      We still haven't wrapped them, notice they're still plain white, but we intend as soon as we can agree on what they should look like, get them wrapped, but we're not holding back on putting them into service.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 01:10:36
      Well, the Grey Star development is coming.
    • 01:10:38
      Yes.
    • 01:10:38
      And we have a lot of employees over there to get students to get.
    • 01:10:42
      Yeah, that's great.
    • 01:10:43
      All right, any other questions for Scott?
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 01:10:48
      Not a question, but just I like the freedom of service even unwrapped.
    • 01:10:53
      I know Kat did that when we got our new buses and it kind of highlighted, hey,
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:10:59
      this one's new like it hasn't been you know because once they're wrapped they kind of just look like a lot of things on it yeah it's kind of a nice like alert for folks to know interesting yeah all right um kath marlin so kath and charlesville schools let me start with charlesville schools first okay um we have uh we're in the process of finishing up our agreement with the union so that we can work through uh
    • 01:11:38
      The agreement we have with Dominion is they are purchasing and implementing all of the infrastructure.
    • 01:12:00
      The two buses that we are buying, the agreement says that we keep them on during the summer months from
    • 01:12:08
      or I don't even know what it is.
    • 01:12:10
      And that way they will use those, the buses as batteries to support the grid.
    • 01:12:19
      And we do that and then we don't get charged the infrastructure costs.
    • 01:12:24
      But it happens I believe to use those vehicles in the middle of the day doing something we need them.
    • 01:12:38
      We are actively working on a
    • 01:13:12
      That process has started.
    • 01:13:14
      We've ordered them.
    • 01:13:15
      They will be on site June of 2026.
    • 01:13:20
      So we will have infrastructure before we take possession of those vehicles.
    • 01:13:24
      We're working through that now.
    • 01:13:26
      So the Dominion has been on site a couple times there.
    • 01:13:28
      The Pilot, we talked about the way the placement
    • 01:13:47
      a couple of light poles, we knew our lot, kind of look at the back of it.
    • 01:13:52
      There are a couple of light poles that can, we're free of fire.
    • 01:13:58
      So we park on one of our buses, they have to be taken out to support the rest of the vehicles.
    • 01:14:04
      That part of it is actively being worked on by our senior project manager, Ms. Bruce White.
    • 01:14:14
      We have what we believe are
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:14:21
      In contact with the state, they know the timing of when our project is supposed to be launched.
    • 01:14:28
      We're building our infrastructure to support up to eight vehicles.
    • 01:14:33
      Not saying you want to build it, I think, but it needs to be supporting me.
    • 01:14:37
      The initial plan is to have six trained, six chartered with two supports in the shop.
    • 01:14:46
      So we can get power to the vehicles we need to work on.
    • 01:14:50
      So that's phase one.
    • 01:14:53
      The deeper process that Ben mentioned on our arm, we actually have picked that off.
    • 01:14:57
      The traffic analysis of that happened about two, about a week and a half ago.
    • 01:15:02
      We're hoping to get the first blush of the draft document, it looks like, in about two more or three more weeks.
    • 01:15:11
      Then we'll be working through their six steps
    • 01:15:20
      to make sure we get involved in NEPA scoring the part so we can move forward.
    • 01:15:26
      We've got great partners with the state, but we also have hired RK&K and WRA to do our NEPA.
    • 01:15:37
      And we think that just the interaction with them because we've had, you know, we've used other consultants in the past and we're eventually participating and going back to those other consultants
    • 01:15:59
      associated with the design phase where one is holding the other and you split it off and that's what we need to do.
    • 01:16:05
      We're moving fast.
    • 01:16:07
      There's a lot to be considered.
    • 01:16:08
      There's a lot of conversation about annual service.
    • 01:16:11
      We have consultants.
    • 01:16:12
      I'm actually having a meeting with them tomorrow about when at the last, we got three, actually about five different announcements.
    • 01:16:20
      We worked on two but we were having probably work on three scenarios that we will be able to present to city council
    • 01:16:29
      and anybody else who wants to see it.
    • 01:16:31
      It talks about adding more service, what it would take for us to get the 82 driveway.
    • 01:16:40
      And then the scenario talks about more service, 30 minutes for everyone, and then it just be even 15 minutes service on select graphics, five, seven, six.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 01:16:52
      So you'll be reaching out to Albemarle County for some of the areas that you serve.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:17:00
      The five and seven basically are out of my count.
    • 01:17:03
      So, you already have 30 minute service on those.
    • 01:17:07
      We're talking about impact through the request that those products go to the 15 minute service.
    • 01:17:14
      So, the process was, we're looking at is getting everybody to kind of a basic format where we can build ridership, that's the 30 minute model.
    • 01:17:25
      You can't really build ridership
    • 01:17:32
      all the way up to 30 minutes and then where we know we have success because it's kind of the chicken or the egg.
    • 01:17:37
      If we haven't given them service, we don't know when the right shift is going to be or not.
    • 01:17:40
      So get everybody to a 30 minute model.
    • 01:17:42
      Then we look at where we have successes, five and seven, we're at a priority high right shift already.
    • 01:17:49
      Loosen that right shift up by giving them more food and service.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 01:17:51
      And we'll appreciate impact.
    • 01:17:53
      Reaching out to the Board of Supervisors as well as City Council will be appropriate.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:18:00
      So reaching out to the staff.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 01:18:05
      Yes that's fine but I'm just saying Albemarle County because prioritization from us is also important as opposed to just Impact.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:18:14
      We reached out to the staff and we want to make sure that we haven't really been in contact with Impact.
    • 01:18:20
      Impact has contacted the City Council.
    • SPEAKER_13
    • 01:18:24
      I'm just saying.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:18:25
      And we are working through the scenarios that City Council
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 01:18:37
      with Ford.
    • 01:18:39
      That sounds great.
    • 01:18:40
      Let's just circle back around.
    • 01:18:42
      Jamie, Carl was talking about electric buses.
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      You want to just mention how many electric buses Almonte County Public Schools has.
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      Two?
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      Three?
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      We have four.
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      Four now?
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      That's great.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:18:56
      What's been the success rate on them?
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 01:19:00
      How old are you?
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      We use them every day.
    • SPEAKER_10
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      Shorter graphics.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 01:19:11
      But the drivers say that the behavior is better on those buses.
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      I wrote in one of the drivers was just crazy.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 01:19:18
      Now, this is not a research study, right?
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 01:19:37
      When she was talking to me she said less noise, less spelling and she just thought that the kids were calmer.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 01:19:46
      We have looked at propane and other things for that reason because our staff is really interested in more for that reason, for behaviors.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:19:56
      Which company did you invite?
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      The triple S is for the city, not the school bus, but for the city.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:20:03
      Do you remember?
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      We are a ghillie shop in the country.
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      Which is interesting because Katy can attest to this that New Flyer is basically pulled out because of the tariffs, so they're not completing a lot of their quarters because the tariff issues are causing them to turn.
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      We're in a good spot, so it's going to affect us.
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      Yeah, the pricing, they're telling us that if we don't get our pricing here,
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      We went on a normal cycle in the morning.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:20:43
      I asked because I was with some executives from New Flyer last week at AFTA and they were talking about how they were already going back and looking at cost changes to existing orders and adjusting for tariff prices and adding timelines and they were already at like something like 18 months or something like that for ordering to go over so it was just scary.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:21:03
      Fortunately because we are here in South we haven't seen that yet.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:21:17
      I'm going to give you another round of applause.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:21:23
      I have seen GRTC where they face a 90% CMT model down there, but I digress.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 01:21:38
      I can digress and say that I would just take $350 per carat cost on something that I ordered.
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      Any other comments or questions?
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 01:21:50
      Okay, Ben.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 01:21:52
      Mike, you're on, John.
    • SPEAKER_09
    • 01:21:58
      On day four of onboarding a new CFO, I'm really fortunate that Rauhlin has stayed with me through this transition and this year to train that person.
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      I'm really grateful for that and optimistic about our future.
    • 01:22:19
      I hired Missy Corbin who, if any of you are familiar with the Piedmont YMCA, she was their CFO and COO for about 8 years prior to 21.
    • 01:22:33
      We're hopefully sometime by the end of May, early June, going out to survey ridership and other stakeholders so that we can get into a more regular cadence of having that information from folks.
    • 01:22:51
      We've done some early discussion with the team at the PDC about how
    • 01:23:03
      for partnership, all in addition to talking to some other community partners.
    • 01:23:10
      I think I've talked about that we want to enhance communications and marketing and strategy.
    • 01:23:19
      At JAWA, we had a successful RFP process where we selected three vendors for various capabilities out of a pool of 26.
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      And our first task force is out on the street with those folks right now and due by Thursday, so we'll be commencing that work fairly quickly with a first deliverable due by the end of the fiscal year.
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      So we're very excited about that.
    • 01:23:51
      I'm less excited, as I know Katy Miller is, about attending Project Sync meetings, which is a
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      Dominion Federal Grant that we were really excited about at the beginning and has been kind of a poor match thus far for our service area for a number of reasons, one of which being the grant didn't anticipate the need for the actual rolling stock itself.
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      and accounted for the idea that the vehicles need to charge out in the wild, but didn't account for the idea that you need to have a charger in your depot.
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      And so there's some things, had I been president at the time, I'm going to ask different questions.
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      So those things have been difficult.
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      I'm hoping we're making progress because they're entertaining more creative ideas like
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      leasing some of the rolling stock and making charging available to people.
    • 01:25:03
      There's a go no go date by July 1 that I'm carefully observing to decide when we'll continue to partner.
    • 01:25:14
      Katie can probably go on from DRPT's perspective, but she'll get her chance.
    • 01:25:19
      I am participating in two state groups being convened
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      by the RPT.
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      One's on coordinated human services and mobility where we've seen those in the Taylor and then also a strategy advisory for rural transit agencies.
    • 01:25:39
      That's really about, we'll be careful about the way I phrase this, not that 5311 is
    • 01:25:55
      Sarah is gone and so many more people have come into the pool that it may feel like it's gotten smaller over these next couple of years.
    • 01:26:06
      Not so much in this new year that's about to start, but in future years there's a little bit of a concern where there is that gap on the bar chart and so we're talking about that.
    • 01:26:19
      With, I'm sorry, KFH, is that who has that contract?
    • SPEAKER_00
    • 01:26:26
      The RLS is the 5311.
    • 01:26:28
      No, no, who's got the... Oh, the 5310?
    • SPEAKER_09
    • 01:26:35
      Who's got the 5311, the rural transit, who's the consultant group, it happens to be gender.
    • SPEAKER_00
    • 01:26:41
      RLS, yeah, no, RK&K, sorry.
    • SPEAKER_09
    • 01:26:44
      Okay, gender rule is actually leading the program, so.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 01:26:47
      Wow, well that's cool, very cool.
    • SPEAKER_09
    • 01:26:50
      One of the things that will happen with
    • 01:26:57
      I'd like to be further ahead than Kat on a major parking lot project and that will be an advancement and incredibly disruptive all at once so we'll see how that goes.
    • 01:27:12
      In the last year advanced 20% drawings and engineering and there's work to do both on site and with the planners of the city in order to get that done.
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      looking forward to a number of software advancements over the next year and prepping our team for that now so that we can hit the ground running when the dollars become available.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 01:27:45
      Great.
    • 01:27:46
      Any questions for Mike?
    • 01:27:49
      Mike, maybe in June you could bring your new CEO.
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      CFO.
    • 01:27:57
      Yeah, CFO, sorry.
    • SPEAKER_09
    • 01:28:02
      She's welcome.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 01:28:21
      Get off of that.
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      I don't know.
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      I don't want to start over.
    • SPEAKER_00
    • 01:28:32
      Well yeah between RK and K which is where Jen is and RLS is where Neil went it's hard to keep track of which former DRPD or employees are at which
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      consultant firms now.
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      But yes, I will touch on Project Sync.
    • 01:29:00
      We have definitely appreciated John's feedback and patience throughout the process.
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      I think it's kind of taken a different shape between a lot of turnover at the DOE level and then also at the Dominion level and their chosen consultant firm.
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      It's taking a different shape.
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      They have their interim business report out now that they're working on.
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      And so I think
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      It still left a lot of questions after our review that we did, but hopefully at least having something more concrete can help to guide us a little bit more.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 01:29:36
      So we'll still work forward on that one.
    • SPEAKER_00
    • 01:29:39
      And then with the tariffs, so yes, our estate contract for new flyer vehicles has been frozen.
    • 01:29:48
      You know, probably in a really good way.
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      There's language in all of our state contracts that put a cap on the escalation due to tariffs for costs.
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      And understandably, New Fire doesn't want to have to take
    • 01:30:05
      All of the costs in-house and since there's still just a lot of uncertainty as to what it's going to look like, they're not accepting any new Virginia orders off that state contract.
    • 01:30:14
      So working to take that sorted out, I think hopefully we'll know more, but we're kind of in a holding pattern right now with that.
    • 01:30:23
      The biggest thing right now is that the draft zip has been released.
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      So our proposed projects, you know, I would highly recommend taking a look at our data portal.
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      Hopefully lots of exciting projects for the area.
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      I hope that you guys are as excited about them as we are.
    • 01:30:43
      We definitely had a lot of hard decisions to make this year, but I also would recommend May 7th in Culpeper is the
    • 01:30:53
      public hearing, and then you can also submit any public comments online via email through May 21st is the deadline to have any comments in on the draft SIP, and then that will be approved in June by the TV.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 01:31:10
      Any questions for Katy?
    • 01:31:14
      We're hearing some scary changes from SmartScale, but I'll just leave it at that about funding.
    • SPEAKER_00
    • 01:31:21
      Okay, yeah, I'm not, small scale is not really my wheelhouse, but hopefully.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 01:31:26
      Scary things about skin in the game for small scale increasing, dramatic, which is scaring all of us.
    • 01:31:36
      Anyway, I guess that's it for you, unless there's some questions.
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      And thank you very much, my dear, appreciate it.
    • 01:31:48
      And with that,
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      The only other business I have is that our minutes reference the May 28th and 29th conference.
    • 01:32:02
      I think it's in Richmond?
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 01:32:04
      Did you send out some information for that?
    • 01:32:08
      Sure.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 01:32:08
      Danny was suggesting that some of us might want to go and I would be interested if it works for me and wherever, you know, so just send out the information and see who I'd like to go.
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      and I know it's only 5.30 and we're supposed to be here until 6.
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      Having said that, hearing no objections, I will adjourn us to June 26th at 4 o'clock in the afternoon to say a voice.
    • SPEAKER_01
    • 01:32:38
      So I understand that the people they use to log their trips, that's pretty solid type of data.