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Regional Transit Partnership (2017-2025) Meeting 4/27/2023
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Regional Transit Partnership (2017-2025) Meeting
4/27/2023
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RTP Agenda 4.27.23.pdf
SPEAKER_04
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Good afternoon.
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It's spring, the flowers are moving, and it's time to call the meeting to order.
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I believe we have four.
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And our first order of business, Lucinda, I see Anne Malick on the screen.
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Anne, I believe you need to request, I believe I'm going to turn my attorney to my wife, but I believe you need to
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Request that you are able to zoom and tell us where you are and your reason for zooming.
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Right.
SPEAKER_07
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Thank you.
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Ann Malek representing Albemarle County and I was stuck in a traffic jam in Richmond as I was worried it might happen and I'm about 20 miles out coming back to Charlottesville now on 16th Street.
SPEAKER_04
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Alright, so I will entertain a motion for Ann to be able to zoom.
SPEAKER_15
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I move that we allow Supervisor Malek to zoom in from I-64.
SPEAKER_04
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Is there a second?
SPEAKER_13
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I second.
SPEAKER_04
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A second by Hal.
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All those in favor, please say aye.
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Aye.
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Any opposed?
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Aye.
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Welcome, and we're delighted you're here.
SPEAKER_08
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As unlikely a story as that might be because of traffic enrichment.
SPEAKER_04
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Well, I hope you're not driving.
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Just be careful if you're driving, okay?
SPEAKER_03
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Yes, thank you.
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All right.
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With that,
SPEAKER_04
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I do want to start our reading today as we usually do with introductions.
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So if you will introduce yourself and tell the organization that you represent.
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Lucinda, do you want to start at your end?
SPEAKER_03
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I'm Lucinda Shannon.
SPEAKER_04
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I work for the Thomas Jefferson Planning District.
SPEAKER_14
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I'm Steve Derecka, the Toronto Area Chancellor.
SPEAKER_13
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I'm Ben Chambers, City of Charlottesville Transportation Planning Manager.
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I'm General Howell from UDA, Department of Transportation.
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Wright.
SPEAKER_03
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Steven Jacobs, Councillor from the Department of Transportation.
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Sherri White, the director for Albemarle County.
SPEAKER_14
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Lloyd Smith, City of Charlottesville.
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Okay, we'll do Brad to that.
SPEAKER_04
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Brad to Thomas, CHHC.
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Okay, and so we'll ignite the McGill, Albemarle County.
SPEAKER_15
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Brian Pinkston, Charlottesville City Council.
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Pete Thompson, representative of Charlottesville area lights.
SPEAKER_14
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Hal Morgan, the John Gould representative.
SPEAKER_12
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And I'll move to the screen.
SPEAKER_04
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Juwan, would you like to introduce yourself?
SPEAKER_14
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Okay, so he's not there quite yet.
SPEAKER_04
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Sandy?
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Oh, you're there.
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I'm sorry.
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I thought we had two Sandy's.
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That wasn't what we needed.
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And Anne is still on, so we know Anne is there.
SPEAKER_03
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And I guess we'll send a... Rebecca?
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Thank you.
SPEAKER_04
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We're delighted to have both of them today.
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Oh, wow.
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So the um...
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Next item on our agenda is approval of the agenda, so I will entertain a motion to approve the agenda.
SPEAKER_14
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I move for approval of the agenda.
SPEAKER_04
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Brian is going to make the motion.
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Is there a second?
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I second.
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I second.
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You will see that.
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All those in favor of approving the agenda, please say aye.
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Aye.
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Aye.
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Aye.
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Thanks, A.M. And we can hear you clearly, which is wonderful.
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The next item is approval of our draft meeting minutes for March the 23rd.
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Does anyone have any comments or quick notes about those minutes?
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If not, I then obtain a motion to approve the meeting minutes for March the 23rd.
SPEAKER_14
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I move for approval of the draft meeting minutes for March the 23rd, 2020-23.
SPEAKER_04
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All those in favor of approving the minutes as presented, please say aye.
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Aye.
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Any nays and any abstentions?
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All right, we have our minutes approved.
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Lucinda, I'm going to look to you to see if anyone signed up from the public.
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Yes, we actually have somebody online.
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Mr. Wallace from Scottsville would like to speak.
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And Mr. Wallace, you can unmute your, wait, let me allow you to talk.
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You can unmute yourself and you have two minutes.
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Okay, thank you.
SPEAKER_00
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Thank you so much.
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Greetings, everyone.
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I was hoping to join you in person, but was just able to make it back from the Virginia Land Trust Conference over in Harrisonburg presenting over there.
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I think those
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issue connections are really important.
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Things like rural land conservation connects to our transit needs, affordable housing, economic development.
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And I know that your work touches those multiple issues.
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It's been my pleasure to be an occasional participant in this partnerships meeting over the past five years.
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This is my last time tuning in as I'm changing jobs and headed north to manage Shelburne, Vermont next month.
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I really look forward to keeping in touch and comparing policy notes.
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The Charlottesville and Burlington areas have a lot in common, and I've been pleasantly surprised at the number of colleagues who have moved back and forth between those areas.
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Happy to keep in touch and share ideas.
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I'll be handing off some of the Scottsville area partnership to my town clerk Javier Rodales and a really fantastic UVA PhD fellow who's helping us with comprehensive planning this summer, Lincoln Lewis.
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He will be in touch and look forward to working with PDC and transit agency staff as we think about what rural transit improvements might look like in the future and how a small town can be the best partner that it can.
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I really sympathize and understand the struggle that you all go through trying to work in a complex policy environment with really limited resources and the structural barriers that you face among many conflicting policy issues.
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It's been small comfort here in Scottsville to see encouragement like
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a proper bus stop improvement that Mr. Reek helped us deploy with a monument to local history and a nice bench where folks can wait for the jaunt bus underneath a beautiful linden tree and I look forward to coming back in years to come and see that tree providing even better shade.
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Mr. Lee on the partnership call is probably the colleague that I go back with the longest over 10 years, but it's been my pleasure to work with Mr. Henry, Ms. McKeel, Mr. Barnes, Ms. Shannon, and many of the other partnership members on all kinds of work both transit related and otherwise.
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I'm going to a colder part of the country where the transit investments are a little beefier.
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The tax rates are higher and they deploy 20-minute headways throughout the region and almost every bus stop is covered.
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It represents a different level of commitment and I've seen that.
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I didn't know that kind of thing was possible until I had visited other parts of the world.
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Growing up in rural Virginia, you don't see that.
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But those transitions are happening and we're headed in the right direction.
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We have some amazing expertise on this partnership and I just want to thank you for all the work that you've done in Scottsville and say, you know, by all means keep in touch and keep up the good work.
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Thank you.
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It's been a pleasure working with you.
SPEAKER_04
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Matt, thank you so much for joining us today and sharing your
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New Adventure, and I know that all of us wish you the best.
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It has been a real pleasure working with you over the years and you will be missed.
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I don't know if anybody else wants to just say anything to me now because it is not much of a good thing.
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And you know, you're going to have a lot more snow up there.
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Maybe you could put some snowballs on my ice and send us some snowballs next winter.
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That might be nice.
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because we certainly aren't getting very much these days down here.
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All right.
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Good enough.
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With that, is there anybody else listening?
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No, there is not.
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OK. All right.
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Next item on our agenda.
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Garland, I think this is your turn to show.
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Cat 2022 review and looking ahead to 2023.
SPEAKER_14
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So before I do my presentation, I want to bring in Bethany Yep, good afternoon.
SPEAKER_01
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Can you hear me all right?
SPEAKER_14
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So Bethany is with the Virginia Department of Rail and Public Transportation and we actually have a very
SPEAKER_09
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A very important call for her team on April the 7th.
SPEAKER_14
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I don't want to steal all of her thunder, but we were pleasantly surprised and made aware of that the ERPT had come to step in and help us with shelters put in place.
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So that's it.
SPEAKER_01
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Okay, great.
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Thank you so much for giving me the time to introduce myself and speak to the partnership.
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So good afternoon, everyone.
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Like you said, my name is Beth Ocafialdo and my supervisor, Alan Saunders, and I make up the engineering team at DRPT.
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And so I wanted to get a chance to talk about what, you know, progress we've been making with the transit shelter so far.
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Now, Alan and I have been with DRPT for a little over a year now.
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And when we started, our director, Genda Bruhl, made it clear that transit shelter and amenity projects across the state were at a standstill, including in Charlottesville, and that she wanted us to prioritize finding a solution.
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And so in the last year, we've been on a fact-finding mission to
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like figure out what the challenges have been, who all the players are and what we can do moving forward to help.
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And what we discovered is that the process to install a shelter on state right of way can actually be very long.
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And, you know, once you've identified a location for the shelter, you've got to develop a concept plan and get a prototype designed from the manufacturer.
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Then the Art and Architectural Review Board has to review and approve it.
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Then that plan gets sent to the Department of General Services and they have a division that reviews the prototype and designed for the compliance of several different requirements like the Virginia Uniform State Building Code.
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And then really at that point, once they've approved it, you've really just gotten started.
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And even while that's happening, you're having to work with VDOT's land use office to get conditional approval of the locations that you've selected before later coming back to get an actual land use permit from them.
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And so there are several steps that require working with DGS and VDOT.
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to get a CO 17, which is the building permit that authorizes construction on state property, and then the VDOT land use permits, and then also the CO 13.3, which is the certificate of use and occupancy that you get once the shelter has been installed and inspected.
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And so
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All of that to say this isn't to discourage you like thankfully VDOT and DGS have been very helpful in partnering with us to identify this process and then introduce opportunities to make it more efficient and so to start off like DRPT has brought on a consultant
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to help us compile and update all of the existing building permits across the state so that transit agencies and localities won't have to start at the very beginning of the process with AARP and DGS reviewing the prototypes.
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We'll have a selection ready to be used by the transit agencies.
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And then if you do decide that you'd like to work with a shelter model that we don't already have a permit available for, then DRBT can work with you to
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You know, get your approvals, work with the manufacturer and we're also working on developing a document that will outline like all of the engineering criteria that the manufacturer will have to meet in order for that review process with DGS to be really smooth.
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And then we'll also support the other parts of the process like communication with VDOT, like the installation, the inspection process so that you get your occupancy permit and all of those other little details.
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And so just wanted to
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Let you know that we are here to help.
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We've already, like Garland said, we've already been meeting with CAT and Charlottesville and Albemarle as well as other localities across the state like Arlington County, DRTC, etc.
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And so we're really looking forward to getting these shelters and other amenities bolted in and in use for the public.
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So thank you so much for your time.
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If you have any questions, let me know.
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But we're really looking forward to getting this up and running.
SPEAKER_04
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Thank you so much.
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I know everyone here is thrilled with this news.
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I know Garland probably has some things that he was going to be able to talk to us about.
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I just wanted to point out, though, in all fairness, that April 7 was a magical day for you all to have that conversation because that was my birthday.
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So let me just open it up if it's all right to see if anyone does have any questions.
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Is that all right?
SPEAKER_02
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I've got two questions.
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With this new process, start to finish, assuming you got all your stuff lined up, how long would it take to get an approval for a location?
SPEAKER_01
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Was the question how long it would take to get approval for what exactly?
SPEAKER_02
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Say we take a location for a shelter and we have all the right stuff and we say a prayer to a couple of months, a couple of weeks.
SPEAKER_01
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So as far as the location of the approval for the location to be able to install a shelter, that's that's like communication with VDOT's land use office.
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And that's like initially like when once you identify the location, that is when you would reach out to VDOT's local land use office and ask them if
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If it's okay to put a shelter there because they're going to know if they have any future projects, whether construction or maintenance that are going to be happening at that location and then they'll give you conditional approval.
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Once you have conditional approval, the location of the shelter shouldn't be in question.
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It's just going to be a matter of, can you get the engineering worked out with DGS so that they give you the permit approval to install the shelter?
SPEAKER_02
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Well, start to finish all the different steps.
SPEAKER_09
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So I'm going to step in and say that we're trying to work through this right now and we're hoping, I'm hopeful that we'll be able to get, so we're going to be doing a couple of sites that we've selected and that
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The way we view those couple of sites will actually hopefully dictate the length of time.
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But we've kind of put three to four months on with a target, but six months is kind of the longest we would hope that it would take to get this process done.
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That's a long time, but it's not really a long time in the context of all, you know, everything that she said that had to happen, six months is not a long time.
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We've been working on it for three years.
SPEAKER_02
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So the process you had to go through, and it's commendable that you figured it out, is VDOT governed statutorily by this process, or is it more their own decision process to consider these things?
SPEAKER_01
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So right now, shelters, there is a statutory requirement that shelters fall under that it has to be reviewed and approved by DGS.
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And they have a very strict approval process.
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There are several requirements that they need to make sure that these shelters comply with.
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And so we are working behind the scenes
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at a legislative level to try to make changes because right now there is a legislative requirement that these shelters need to meet and that's why they go through DGS and have this longer process.
SPEAKER_14
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Right.
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But having DRPT kind of take the lead in helping us through this process has gotten a lot of the ambiguity in the system and allow us to move this process a little faster.
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So we've been founding for three years and I am eager in the next six months to start seeing some shelves of good records.
SPEAKER_02
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Now this is great and it's good that you're going to try to streamline further.
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It shouldn't be this hard.
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You know, there's no criticism of anybody, Michael.
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Don't talk to me, it's Michael's fault.
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It's actually Michael's back and forth.
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It's actually Michael's back and forth.
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It's actually Michael's back and forth.
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It's actually Michael's back and forth.
SPEAKER_04
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It's actually Michael's back and forth.
SPEAKER_07
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It's actually Michael's back and forth.
SPEAKER_04
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It's actually Michael's back and forth.
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It's actually Michael's back and forth.
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It's actually Michael's back and forth.
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It's actually Michael's back and forth.
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It's actually Michael's back and forth.
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We're just all really thankful that maybe we're seeing the light at the end of the tunnel here, which is wonderful.
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Do you have any other questions?
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I know Garland probably has some other questions.
SPEAKER_09
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Yeah, we just want to go through the presentation, but I wanted to make sure that we highlight the group and make sure everybody knows that our efforts will be very true here, both in the next six months.
SPEAKER_14
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So we will start to see, you know,
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Thank you for figuring this out.
SPEAKER_01
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We're just as eager as you all are.
SPEAKER_04
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There are other localities that are just as blatant, so that's great.
SPEAKER_07
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Thank you.
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May I add?
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Oh, she went away?
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Okay.
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I'm here.
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Okay, good.
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This is Ann Malik.
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And if you would please deliver a message to Alan Saunders that we in Earliesville still think of him every day when we drive through our wonderful intersection and the flashing lights that he provided for us.
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So thanks so much.
SPEAKER_01
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That's great theory.
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He'll love that.
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I'll make sure to pass it along.
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Thank you.
SPEAKER_04
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All right.
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I think you have a presentation.
SPEAKER_09
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Okay, so part of what we're going to talk about today is this is similar to the presentation that I gave to the Board of Supervisors about three weeks ago.
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So we're going to talk about the conditions of where CAT is pre-COVID and then
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COVID and then kind of where we're going to go with our budget.
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So pre-COVID, CAP was operating 13 routes with a span of service from 6 a.m. to midnight.
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We had limited service on Sundays.
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We only had four routes.
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We had our accessibility for the weekend routes was about 6,200 and 562,500
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Population were within a quarter of a mile of our bus routes, 19,700 of them were minority population, 4,500 were low income households, 2,850 had no vehicles at all.
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So during COVID, we didn't make any coverage changes.
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What we did is we did reduce the service to keep our drivers safe.
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So we reduced our service hours from a 9 a.m. to 12 a.m. to 6 a.m. to 9 p.m. And recently, about three months now, we've been operating till 1030.
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Three months?
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Four months?
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So one of the things that we did to make sure that we kept the health and safety of not just our drivers, but the community.
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is re-eliminating our Sunday service and use it as a dedicated cleaning day.
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We're still doing that model to that.
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We're going to hopefully bring that back as a part of the budget process and the new fiscal year.
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So of those 13 routes, nine of them operated in the county.
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So you'll see one, two, three, one, two, three, five, seven, eight, 10, 11, and 12.
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12 is circulate.
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and circular with the dotted line because that only operated on Sunday.
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One of the things we're going to do is probably eliminate the 12 and incorporate part of that route where it goes to Walmart on Sundays into an existing route.
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So we'll be operating seven days a week.
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So this is what the proposed new system will look like.
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And we're going to talk a little bit more about what that means.
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So give you an overview.
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So just so we can get through this and then you get questions and we go back to anytime you want to.
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Revenue, how CATS operating budget is designed is that we get in revenue from basically four different sources.
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Our federal budget consists of about thirty eight point
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8% comes from the federal sources.
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5307 money is the major financing component for CAT.
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We get state dollars for operating.
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We get 23.6% of our funding from the city and 10.8% from the county.
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Once you factor in state and federal credits that are applied.
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I noted that ridership performance is a major driver of state funding.
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So as our ridership numbers continue to go up,
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So will our state money continue to go up, so that's important that we get our ridership model back up and running as efficiently and robust as we possibly can.
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Our expenditures, so the service levels for each jurisdiction is a major component.
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Total miles and hours are the major factors in how we formulate our budget.
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our full-time staff levels and we're converting as many temporary drivers to full-time as we possibly can.
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Fuel costs, diesel and fuel we have the majority of our buses are diesel very few of our buses only the smaller ones are gasoline but that's still a major and you know we all felt the the pinch when gas prices spiked we we were not
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We were not immune to those impacts, so we saw the prices jump.
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Repairs and maintenance are a major driver for us.
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As our buses continue to get older, parts, maintenance, and supplies continue to drive up in cost.
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So that's also affected.
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Parts that we were buying a year ago, they were like a $5,000 part.
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Now it's probably $8,000 to $10,000 just for that same part.
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And we've seen it almost double in cost.
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And the percentage of pay that we were paying our drivers, we had a 21.3% increase over one year to get our driver numbers up.
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All the providers in here have increased their pay to make sure that we keep our drivers and try to recruit as many more as we possibly can.
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With that said, our focus, can you move that?
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I'm sorry.
00:26:07
How do I get this off the screen?
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So priorities for 24 is what the slide says?
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OK, priorities for 24.
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We're going to focus on restoring pre-pandemic service levels.
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Once again, trying to get as close back to that 6 AM to midnight span of service as we possibly can.
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We're going to improve service.
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This was a request from the city on the Route 6, which actually operates to two very low income portions of the city, Crescent Hall and South First Street.
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We're going to improve the service level there
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the frequency there from 30 minute service.
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I mean from 60 minute service to 30 minute service.
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That's going to be a marked improvement for those individuals.
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We're going to hire more operators and more mechanics.
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Mechanics are becoming just as valuable, if not more important in our model.
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As our buses get old, we're trying to recruit as many mechanics as we possibly can.
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Actually, right now we've hired a third party firm to actually bring in some additional mechanics to help us get some of our buses back up and running.
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We're going to introduce microtransit into the county.
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That's going to be a major focus here in a couple of months.
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We're going to improve reliability, better vehicles.
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We have six fixed route diesel buses that are on order and should be here before the end of the year.
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We have four or five.
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five smaller cutaway buses or body on chassis that will be here hopefully in the next three months.
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So that's going to relieve some of the pressure for us and hopefully help with our reliability.
00:28:09
We're going to right size the post-pandemic service model.
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There are some things that we want to do.
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We know that it'll help with the efficiency and also helping with ridership.
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And we're going to try to implement that.
00:28:20
And then we're going to add a new
00:28:23
We have a truck route system where we have an AV model on the route two that passes by Catt and goes to Fifth Street Station and the second portion of it will go to PVCC.
00:28:36
That will improve connectivity from downtown by the high school and also to Fifth Street and also the jail.
SPEAKER_04
00:28:45
Absolutely.
SPEAKER_13
00:29:01
Okay.
SPEAKER_14
00:29:18
All right.
SPEAKER_09
00:29:20
So revenue assumptions for FY24, we talked about the percentages and now we're going to talk about actually the dollars that come in to make CAT operate.
00:29:29
So our federal assistance is about a little over $2.8 million.
00:29:34
We also have in our model 1.78, almost 1.8 million dollars of CARES art funding that we are supplementing the major budget and giving money to the city and the county to offset their general fund requirements to us.
00:29:49
We give state operating assistance 2.7 million.
00:29:53
We have a state TRIPS grant.
00:29:55
The first year was FY23 that we're using 24.
00:29:58
We're going to use
00:29:59
$376,000.
00:30:00
The first year was $500,000.
00:30:03
It declined for three years and the fourth year is totally on the jurisdictions to pick up the total cost.
00:30:10
Purchase service from the city gives us $2.8 million.
00:30:16
Purchase service from the county gives, they give us from the general fund $1.3 million.
00:30:21
We get a payment from UVA for the trolley services and then we get advertising dollars of about $25,000.
00:30:30
We also in our budget recognize almost 2.2, almost $2.3 million.
00:30:35
It's a pass through that comes to Jaunt.
00:30:37
That's the split between our 5307 money as Jaunt continues to do our paratransit service for us.
00:30:45
With that, how does our expenditure model look?
00:30:48
So with our expenditure model,
00:30:50
We have five categories and how we break down the funds.
00:30:53
The majority of our funds, as you can see, are in our operating budget.
00:30:57
That's where all of our drivers, the majority of our drivers and supervisors are.
00:31:03
Custom Service Agents are also there.
00:31:06
That's $6.7 million.
00:31:09
The admin is 3.9, which also includes the 2.2.
00:31:13
That's a pass-through to join.
00:31:15
The maintenance budget is a little over $3 million.
00:31:19
The marketing budget is $219,000.
00:31:21
And then our safety, which is a requirement from the feds, is $253,000, $254,000 a year for a total of $14,200.
00:31:30
But if you take out the joint, it's $11,995.
00:31:42
The total budget is $14,286.
00:31:46
170, and if you take out the 2.29, that's the pass through to John, our total budget is 11995775.
00:31:59
So specific network improvements that we're going to be concentrating on in FY24.
00:32:06
We're going to improve service between the university, the hospital, and F29 through the Route 5.
00:32:16
We're going to have new crosstown services.
00:32:18
These are just the things we're going to concentrate on.
00:32:20
These are not all inclusive because there's a lot of them we want to do.
00:32:24
But these are ones we're going to focus in on specifically in FY24.
00:32:28
New crosstown services from South Charlottesville in the US 29 corridor with the Route 8 proposed.
00:32:39
improving the frequency models, having everything on the 1, on the 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 10 in the trolley be 30 minutes or better all day.
00:32:52
That's going to be a great improvement for ridership.
00:32:56
We're going to add additional weekend service coverage on the 1, 3, and the 10.
00:33:01
New coverage along Mill Creek, that was the 2B, that's the model we talked about splitting, creating a truck route.
00:33:09
And then we're going to do anything that, we have a couple of routes right now that are 70 minutes, we're going to create no more than a 60 minute, so nothing in our system would be worse than 60 minutes.
00:33:26
So what does that look like?
00:33:28
So phase one improvements that we want to do, and these are the things we're going to concentrate on first.
00:33:34
So coming out of the shoot in July, so July, August, and September, when we first put in our first service model, you will see the improvements.
00:33:44
We're trying to get in, hopefully, the two, 2AB, the split combination.
00:33:48
We'll have to have some bus stops that we'll have to put in to make that model happen.
00:33:53
The 11 with the extension over to
00:33:56
the center.
00:33:58
We're going to do that and then we're going to improve the six for the city from a 60-minute model to a 30-minute model.
00:34:06
So that's kind of phase one and that's where we're going to concentrate the majority of our focus.
00:34:13
That's not saying that we're not going to do any of the other things that were proposed by the consultants.
00:34:19
We had a consultant
00:34:21
We had a consultant come in almost a year ago and make some suggestions about service enhancements that would allow us to
00:34:31
improve our ridership model.
00:34:33
So we're going to look at a number of those things, but we have to kind of figure out what makes sense right away.
00:34:39
And with that said, the next part of the presentation is we're going to take a look at and make sure we get the microtransit model in the county implemented.
00:34:49
So there are two sections, Pantops and 29.
00:35:01
Priorities, so we actually have an RFP that's on the street right now.
00:35:05
I believe vendors submitted their proposals to us yesterday.
00:35:14
We have, in the next couple of weeks, we'll have the evaluation done and then we'll be able to tell
00:35:23
having the negotiations with the prospective vendor about a final price and then potentially when we can actually start the service.
00:35:32
So that'll be good, very good news.
00:35:33
But the model itself is going to operate under the CAT brand.
00:35:38
So there won't be an additional standalone vendor that's operating here in the region.
00:35:47
From the
00:35:49
Application that was done that got us the grant funding.
00:35:53
The span of service is Monday through Saturday, 6.30 a.m. to 9 p.m.
00:35:59
If the county wanted to do something different, I think there was some discussions in the past about potentially enhancing that.
00:36:04
The model right now only pays for Monday through Saturday.
00:36:08
And the two areas we're going to focus on, once again, the 29 corridor and then Pan Tops.
00:36:16
So what does that look like?
00:36:17
So the state model that we applied for, the state grant, gave us $1.94 million.
00:36:26
That breaks down to $1,552,000 that comes specifically from the state for this grant.
00:36:32
And then there's a $380,000 match that comes from the county.
00:36:37
When we put the grain in, we were contemplating CAT doing it.
00:36:44
So there was a model that was put in that how to spend the dollars.
00:36:48
All of those dollars will now be used to hire a potential vendor, whether it's partial or full.
00:36:55
and that's $1.9 million, but we had contemplated using the majority of it for salaries.
00:37:01
There's $135,000 in the grant specifically earmarked for advertising and promotion.
00:37:07
And then there was professional services pieces that allows us to augment and pay for certain
00:37:17
Whether we're collecting data and that sort of thing, there's just some expenses that we'll potentially have to pay for software, that sort of stuff that's in the model for $100,000.
00:37:27
And that pretty much builds my presentation.
00:37:32
And there's, if there's any questions, I can answer.
SPEAKER_04
00:37:37
I know that many of the homeowners would love to have that presentation.
SPEAKER_09
00:37:42
You already had the presentation.
SPEAKER_04
00:37:44
I just hadn't seen it.
SPEAKER_09
00:37:46
No, the board, we gave that to Brian.
00:37:49
Brian has this presentation.
00:37:51
This is the exact presentation, except for one slide that I added from when we...
SPEAKER_04
00:37:56
I can send it to the original trends and preferences.
00:38:01
Sure.
00:38:01
That's what I'm saying.
00:38:02
Lucinda could send that presentation out to everybody.
00:38:04
Absolutely.
00:38:04
This board is one of them.
SPEAKER_09
00:38:06
Got it.
00:38:06
I'm sorry.
00:38:07
I was thinking about the wrong board.
SPEAKER_04
00:38:09
Yeah, that's okay.
00:38:10
And I'll open it up for questions.
00:38:11
Brian.
SPEAKER_15
00:38:12
Yeah, two.
00:38:14
One is, excuse me, so what you're doing now is trying to sense, how does it integrate into, does it ever do the enhanced, start with enhanced?
00:38:29
Yeah, network in the future, which I, you know, I guess would require some inventory of mud coming into the system to do that, but is this sort of a stepping stone into that?
SPEAKER_09
00:38:41
Yes, so we are in the process of completing a required TSP, Transportation Strategic Plan, or Transit Strategic Plan,
00:38:54
and for us it has to be done by December 31st of this year.
00:39:01
In that model it's a 10-year window so we are looking at the first five years as kind of like the first phase and we're going to be using the consultant's recommendations that we worked on them almost a year and a half ago as kind of the bridge that's the first five years.
00:39:19
Year six through ten is the larger regional effort that was done by the TJPDC.
00:39:27
That is kind of the we go from five and implement those enhancements and route changes from six through ten.
00:39:38
So it is we know we need to kind of build our foundation and that allows us to get our ducks in a row, get our governance study done, everything that needs to happen.
00:39:47
Look for additional funding to try to move that needle.
00:39:52
But in the interim, we also need to be very mindful that we need as much ridership and make enhancements to our service to get as much ridership to continue to get that funding model up and running.
SPEAKER_15
00:40:02
How does the ridership piece work?
00:40:04
So the middle ridership sounds like it's a virtuous cycle or a vicious one.
00:40:10
Yes.
00:40:11
I guess the more riders you get, the more funding you get.
SPEAKER_09
00:40:14
So it's on a three year, it's just on a rolling three year cycle.
00:40:18
So they look at our ridership over a three year average and say, we're competing with every transit system in the Commonwealth.
00:40:26
So if we're not trying to make improvements and get more ridership, everybody else is.
00:40:31
By definition, if we're not making improvements, we're falling behind and we're going to get less money anyway.
00:40:37
So my focus has been on
00:40:39
Let's make sure that we shore up our reliability, make small incremental changes that are necessary for us to get more ridership as we look forward to doing the larger plans.
SPEAKER_15
00:40:53
So this sounds like what you're doing now is kind of building a way after COVID.
00:40:58
Absolutely.
00:40:59
And setting the stage for when this TSP stuff is done.
00:41:03
Yes.
SPEAKER_09
00:41:04
The TSP will be coming before, I think there's a requirement that we get city council, the governing board of, which is city council of CAT, to sign off on the document.
00:41:16
So the document actually will be coming to city council and we can actually make a presentation to the board of supervisors if you would like to also.
SPEAKER_15
00:41:24
Great.
00:41:25
Let me tackle one thing that I'm sorry to ask.
00:41:28
Sure.
00:41:29
Electric buses.
00:41:30
Sure.
00:41:30
or some sort of bridge to the carbon free future.
00:41:37
I know that you get lots of push on this from our constituents in the city.
00:41:43
I fully understand that a diesel bus might be better all things considered for
00:41:49
Yes, so there's a study that's actually going on.
00:42:02
I don't know, Ben, you want to talk about that?
SPEAKER_09
00:42:16
OK, so we started a required feasibility study looking at adding alternative fuel vehicles.
00:42:29
Steve McNally from my office was running that.
00:42:32
Steve left us, and it set dormant for about three and a half, four months.
00:42:37
Luckily, Ben came on board to the city.
00:42:41
Ben has graciously got drafted to help us pull that back together.
00:42:47
So Ben is actually leading that effort for us now.
00:42:50
We're at a point now where we have had a preliminary briefing from our consultants.
00:42:57
Consultants show that the report basically says we can't do a full battery electric model.
00:43:07
It's just not
00:43:08
coffee and feasible, the range and the hours of service just don't meet our necessary model.
00:43:17
But there are places where we can, and I'm actually going to let Ben, if he will, talk about it.
SPEAKER_14
00:43:23
So we've gotten the results back from our consulting, at least the draft results, and so the next step is for us to internally look at
00:43:48
What are the actual options that we have here?
SPEAKER_08
00:43:52
And then we'll take those to external stakeholders and get their feedback.
SPEAKER_14
00:43:56
So folks from the county, folks from advocacy groups.
SPEAKER_11
00:44:00
If you're going hydrogen cell or something, then fueling infrastructure would be interesting.
SPEAKER_08
00:44:11
And we'll take that feedback from our external stakeholders.
00:44:17
internal stakeholders come back internal and sort of come up with a decision on what the city should probably do to provide that recommendation to Council pre-order.
SPEAKER_14
00:44:27
Any sense of what that would be?
00:44:30
Probably over summer.
SPEAKER_09
00:44:30
Our internal stakeholder meeting is at the end of May.
00:44:34
And then we have, that will be the jumping, the starting point I guess I should say, for the transition plan that has to be designed for us.
00:44:43
Once that, so the phase one part of the study will be like you just said.
SPEAKER_02
00:44:48
What fuel are we using and once we know what kind of fuel we're using and how we're going to move forward on that, then we need to figure out what space are we using for the Avon facility, do we need to build out on maintenance days,
00:45:00
We need to build out more administrative space.
00:45:03
We'll be doing a big conceptual design for the Avon facility as part of our zero emission transition plan.
00:45:08
And then once we have that zero emission transition plan, which I think we're looking at the fall gift of that.
00:45:15
Once we have that, that unlocks several hollers for us to actually be able to spend on making that transition.
00:45:21
So we have to go through this whole process of designing fuel, deciding how we're actually going to implement it.
SPEAKER_09
00:45:28
But what we did do, and I will say that we jumped the gun a little bit, but hopefully it won't backfire on us.
00:45:42
We actually put in a request to the state and the feds to add two expansion
00:45:49
Battery Electric Vehicles to our fleet.
00:45:51
That's kind of a test pilot.
00:45:54
That was in our request in our 24 budget.
00:45:59
Hopefully it gets, the preliminaries show that it is still, our request is there.
SPEAKER_14
00:46:06
Doesn't mean it's going to stay there.
00:46:07
It still has to go through the CTB Commonwealth Transportation Board.
SPEAKER_09
00:46:11
They're going to be looking for the plan.
00:46:13
But hopefully we'll be able to say we're far enough along in the plan to show them that we have done the due diligence.
SPEAKER_04
00:46:23
So, Ms. Londrey, we'll look forward to you all coming back and sharing more information with us at the point at which you all have had a chance to mix it up.
00:46:33
as we've worked through the process.
00:46:35
Yeah.
SPEAKER_09
00:46:36
Try me on a question.
SPEAKER_06
00:46:37
Yeah, question on that request, Garland.
00:46:39
You did a great job in our board meeting, walking through some of the presentations.
00:46:44
And my understanding of when you acquire that asset, there's federal guidelines around years of service, miles of service.
00:46:53
Absolutely.
00:46:54
So that really affects, yeah.
00:46:56
No, it's still the same.
SPEAKER_09
00:47:05
So every, the large buses that we buy
00:47:11
We still got to keep them and we got to figure out how to get.
00:47:14
So thank you for bringing that up.
00:47:16
So part of when CAT buys a large vehicle, you think over 30 feet, it's in a category where we've got 12 years, 500,000 miles.
00:47:27
We have to do both.
00:47:28
It's not 12 years to get rid of it.
00:47:30
You have to have 12 years.
00:47:32
at a minimum of 500,000 miles before you can actually get rid of the vehicle.
00:47:39
So if we buy something and it doesn't work, it'll be on our books and in our service model for 20 years until we get the 500,000 miles.
00:47:48
We have a few of those right now we're trying to get rid of.
00:47:50
We have some hybrids that should have been replaced two years ago.
00:47:56
We still can't get them replaced.
00:47:57
We got 60 plus thousand miles we need to get done.
00:48:01
And we're no closer to getting those moved out because they stay in the shop more than they are on the street.
SPEAKER_07
00:48:11
But we'll work through that model too.
SPEAKER_09
00:48:21
So part of the RFP process that we put in place, we asked the potential vendor to develop a marketing plan.
00:48:34
So that will be one of the first deliverables that we will ask of them.
00:48:39
So whoever is awarded, whether it's partial or full, that marketing plan will be key to being able to answer your question of when we can turn on the marketing.
SPEAKER_04
00:48:49
Because you have scope, I'm sure, at least.
SPEAKER_09
00:48:52
Yes, absolutely.
SPEAKER_11
00:48:54
And I think there's a question in the video.
00:48:59
Thanks, Grant.
00:49:01
Picking up on the marketing, we've been very interested in helping market the microtransit option of 29 North, so please remember it.
00:49:09
I know you always do, anyway.
00:49:11
Second, you know, we could still
00:49:14
Third, the focus that you described for FY24 and such, where would we go to look at the real nitty gritty on those particular, as you know, I'm interested in round five and I wondered how you got
00:49:29
It was a good question how it dovetails into the constraint, not constraint, but my question is how does it compare to those improvements that we all had hoped were going to happen?
00:49:38
Are they the same?
00:49:39
They are the same.
00:49:40
So I can go back to those materials and get the details.
00:49:43
And I think there was a little bit of
00:49:46
Finalization on the Route 5 alignment as it passed by JPJ?
SPEAKER_09
00:49:49
Yes, and I believe the consultant has a recommendation for that.
SPEAKER_11
00:49:57
So it's best for us to follow up with you.
SPEAKER_09
00:49:59
Yes.
00:50:00
Now we're not going to do every single one of them because the consultant, remember this was two years ago, so consultants actually made some changes to a couple of routes where they were moving from in front of schools because that was a different focus but now that you know COVID hit and we needed to figure out how to get students to schools we're going to leave those in so there will be some modifications to the existing plan.
SPEAKER_11
00:50:24
Can you remind us on the microtransit, isn't there a requirement for, that funding only lasts a couple of years or something and then the region has to come up with it?
SPEAKER_09
00:50:34
This is all on Albemarle County.
00:50:38
So this is, the first year is from the grant, the second year is on the county and then the county will make a decision after that.
SPEAKER_11
00:50:45
So the two year, there's stable funding, predictable funding for two years.
SPEAKER_09
00:50:51
There's the stable funding.
00:50:52
Well, there's grant funding for the one year.
00:50:55
The second year is on the county.
00:50:57
But there's a grant required that would be a two-year pipe.
SPEAKER_04
00:51:02
And they will make a decision at the end of the two years.
00:51:06
And I just want to make sure that people that are listening, because I know everybody here knows, when we're talking about the constrained and the unconstrained, we're talking about options that we're looking at in the government's model.
00:51:22
Would you give us dollars to actually improve our systems?
SPEAKER_09
00:51:26
And the last thing I'll say is, Peter, we're going to be sending you probably in the next month or so.
00:51:31
We need to finalize the ability for us to come on your property.
00:51:36
We need to get out in front of city council, and then we can move forward.
SPEAKER_14
00:51:40
So you have the, as you said in the list, I think the timeline for both the route changes and fixed routes.
00:51:46
So we actually just, I talked to the reef,
00:51:52
Juwan, was it this morning or today morning?
00:51:55
And we're talking about September.
00:51:57
This one.
00:51:58
Or fixed run.
00:52:00
Yeah, for what was it, fixed run and half the transit?
00:52:03
Fixed run.
00:52:04
Fixed run.
00:52:04
I'm not quite sure.
00:52:05
I think we'll figure that out when we get the vendor.
SPEAKER_09
00:52:09
We'll know better at the timeline.
SPEAKER_13
00:52:12
Okay, sorry.
00:52:13
I would like to drill into the microtransit briefly, if that's okay.
00:52:16
What's the timeframe for the RFP process?
00:52:20
Our rate, then.
SPEAKER_04
00:52:21
As your official time people, unless anyone has any other questions for Garland about this, then I'm going to move us on to Ben Chambers who is going to talk about the Charlottesville, Mike and Penn, an update on what he did.
SPEAKER_08
00:52:49
And some of you are probably saying, this is the transit meeting, what are we talking about?
00:52:54
I will get to that, I promise.
00:52:57
And Mayor Snook and Councillor Pinkston probably heard some of this already, but there are a couple of minor updates involved.
SPEAKER_04
00:53:05
I don't know if you know how to do this better than me.
SPEAKER_14
00:53:11
Let's do that.
SPEAKER_04
00:53:15
Okay.
SPEAKER_14
00:53:15
Cool.
SPEAKER_06
00:53:16
Thank you.
SPEAKER_08
00:53:17
All right, so we're going to be talking about our bike ped priorities in the city.
SPEAKER_04
00:53:21
Awesome.
SPEAKER_08
00:53:44
There we go.
00:53:44
All right, so in the city, our bike ped priorities have been part of the comprehensive plan for a while.
00:53:53
And that's because the city's transportation master plan is baked into the comprehensive plan.
00:53:58
So what is the transportation master plan of Charlottesville?
00:54:01
It's a bunch of things.
00:54:02
It's our Bike Ped Master Plan.
00:54:04
It's our Streets That Work Plan.
00:54:06
It's our ADA Transition Plan.
00:54:07
It's CATS TDP.
00:54:09
It's a bunch of small area plans.
00:54:11
A lot of these are very old plans.
00:54:14
A lot of these have priorities in them that don't align.
00:54:16
A lot of them have analysis that doesn't align.
00:54:19
A lot of them have very old data and a lot of old inputs.
00:54:22
So these are our issues that we're facing with figuring out what our priorities are in the city.
00:54:28
Also,
00:54:30
We promised too much in the city.
00:54:33
When you look at these plans we have lots of things that, you know, we're going to get all these things done with pages and pages of priorities.
00:54:40
We don't have the staff to accomplish that now and we surely didn't then either.
00:54:45
So now we recognize that there is a need for us to look at these priorities again.
00:54:50
We got grant assistance through the Office of Intermodal Planning and Investment to look at this.
00:54:55
They got a consultant team to help us with it, to look through the quantitative side of things and come up with a process of how are we going to measure these projects quantitatively against each other.
00:55:07
To decide on what projects we were going to do, we decided to go for the plans that had the most projects and the most priorities in them so that we could cover the biggest universe of potential projects.
00:55:16
So we pulled in all the projects from the bike ped master plan and the streets that work plan.
00:55:22
We're done with the quantitative side.
00:55:24
So we have these long lists of everything that's scored based on all of these different quantitative metrics.
00:55:30
And now we're looking at things sort of qualitatively internally.
00:55:34
I like this graphic and every time that I show it, it gets more and more complicated because I add more boxes to it, which is representative of how this process is going.
00:55:44
So I'll start from the left and work us through this.
00:55:48
It starts with the
00:55:51
Bike Ped Master Plan and Streets That Work projects in that green bubble on the left.
00:55:56
And the first stage is our quantitative assessment.
00:55:58
That's what the consultants did.
00:56:00
What they did was look at four different categories of potential needs for our priorities.
00:56:05
Suitability, which includes bike score or walk score.
00:56:07
That's a proprietary score.
00:56:10
Distance to schools, distance to transit stops and slopes sort of figure out the difficulty of travel.
00:56:18
We looked at demand, which includes both demand between zones.
00:56:21
That's what's measured in loads.
00:56:23
It sort of looks at zones and movement between those two zones.
00:56:27
And then we also looked at streetlight, which is a data system that looks at GPS and phone locations and actually tells us where the traffic is on our streets.
00:56:38
We looked at connectivity.
00:56:39
So segment length and the amount of network that's around that segment sort of helps us figure out
00:56:46
where you can travel to from that segment but also figure is sort of a stand in for cost.
00:56:52
We don't want to build the most expensive projects every time so this sort of segment length helps us sort that out.
00:56:59
And then also we look at safety in terms of crash density so existing crashes and AADT so volume of vehicles on the road that you're traveling alongside of as a bike and pedestrian makes a little bit more threatening if there's lots of cars right there.
00:57:13
So that's the quantitative assessment.
00:57:15
We've gone through that.
00:57:17
We looked at, you know, can we put weights on some of these things?
00:57:20
Could we, you know, maybe we take street light out and just use loads for demand.
00:57:26
We looked at all these different levers and in the end, the scores kind of sorted out the same, no matter how we pulled the levers.
00:57:32
There's some overlap between these.
00:57:34
So like bike score, walk score also sort of takes into account network and segment lengths.
00:57:44
The demand of travel is going to have some overlap with AADT.
00:57:48
So there are some things that are, you know, duplicating themselves in here.
00:57:52
And that's probably why we didn't get a whole lot of variety when we were pulling the different levers and trying to put weights on it.
00:57:57
But anyway, we came up with a list of all these projects and scored numbers and that was great.
00:58:04
And then we decided, okay, these are real old projects.
00:58:06
These are projects from 2015, 2016.
00:58:08
We should take a second look at these to make sure they're still real.
00:58:13
So that sort of kicked off our thought about what we wanted to do qualitatively to look at these projects.
00:58:20
And the first thing that we did was look at it feasibility wise.
00:58:24
So general feasibility of, can we actually put this on the ground?
00:58:28
Is this like something that is buildable at all?
00:58:32
And then feasibility of, you know, funding and physically, can we do this project in five years, 10 years, is it longer than that?
00:58:40
So we went through every project, looking at feasibility.
00:58:45
We've also looked at the paving schedule to see, you know, if we build this bike lane, are we just going to come in next year and rip it out and need to pave it again?
00:58:53
And you'll see these two red stars.
00:58:57
These are the two things I'm working on now, which is looking at the distribution of the projects to make sure that we're distributing them equitably across the city and to people who will actually need access to bike and pedestrian infrastructure.
00:59:09
And then the more complicated one is actually looking at synergies between projects.
00:59:15
That's both internally to this list of bike ped projects, but it's also
00:59:20
You know, we've got a bunch of transit stops that don't have shelters.
00:59:23
Are there places that we could be putting in more transit amenities?
00:59:26
And can we pair that with this bike ped project and sort of package it all together and get it all done at once?
00:59:31
We're also doing that with ADA ramps.
00:59:33
We have lists of, you know, areas in town where we know ADA ramps aren't up to snuff.
00:59:38
There aren't crosswalks in certain places.
00:59:41
Are there places where we can package those things because the projects that came out of bike ped master plan, streets that work,
00:59:49
They didn't include curb ramps.
00:59:50
They didn't include crosswalks.
00:59:51
They were specifically sidewalks, bike lanes, and not the little transition spaces that we need to be thinking about to make sure that we're making those connections.
00:59:59
So if you're looking for the transit part, there it is.
01:00:05
You'll notice that there's a little arrow that flies out the side that says SHEROs.
01:00:09
When we were doing our analysis, especially when we got the quantitative analysis back, all the highest scoring things that came out were shared use lanes, which is, you've seen them, they're basically a painting of a guy on a bike in the middle of the road.
01:00:24
And that basically tells you, hey, there might be some bicyclists around here, keep your eyes out.
01:00:31
Yeah, well, we might get to street art later but.
01:00:36
So it's basically just a heads up, and we kind of don't see that as a project anymore, because it's just something we should include in paving.
01:00:45
We pave the dotted lines down the middle of the road when we pave.
01:00:48
We should be painting the sharrows where we've already determined they need to be when we do that repaving.
01:00:53
So we took those out of the list and sent them over to public service and said, hey, when things come up for paving, look at this list to make sure that you're putting the sharrows in where we are supposed to be doing them.
01:01:05
The rest of the projects we're going to consider projects, and there'll be things that we hand off to engineers and public works to move forward, to get survey, to do plans, to do engineering.
01:01:14
That's what will come out at the other end of this.
01:01:18
So there are a couple challenges that we're facing as we're going through this process.
01:01:22
One of them is just comparing apples and oranges.
01:01:25
We've got a list of sidewalks and a list of bike facilities.
01:01:29
And it's kind of difficult, especially when they're separated like that, to say, oh, well, this sidewalk is more important than this bike lane.
01:01:35
So we're kind of trying to figure our way through that.
01:01:40
There's also an element of different stages of development.
01:01:43
We have some projects that are little tiny guys.
01:01:45
We have some projects that are half a mile along sidewalks that are going to be really big, difficult projects that will have to do more planning, will have to get more funding.
01:01:54
How do we prioritize something that's really big versus something that's really small and we can do fast is an internal thing that we're struggling with.
01:02:04
And then lastly, you know, we will have our priorities that come out of this, but there are other planning efforts going on in the region and in the city.
01:02:12
How are we going to match this up with
01:02:14
what the MPO is doing with the long-range transportation plan, what CAT's doing with the TSP, what the ADA transition plan update is going to be.
01:02:23
All of these things are things that we need to work through so that we're producing a list of priorities here that isn't going to kneecap something else down the road.
01:02:33
So our next steps in this process, we're still working through the project synergies element.
01:02:39
Once we get that and we sort of
01:02:40
Have an idea of what the projects are that we are going to want to put on the ground, sort of what's rising to the top.
01:02:47
We're going to start looking at how those are distributed, whether we need to start considering other projects that maybe didn't score quite as well, just to make sure that we're serving everyone.
01:02:56
And then we'll have a draft list of priorities.
01:02:59
We'll be coming around to stakeholders, and you'll probably see me again with this, to get feedback on those draft priorities and see if we're missing anything.
01:03:07
Once we revise that list of priorities, we'll be taking it to council for adoption, and we'll be looking at that annually.
01:03:14
This is not going to just be a one and done.
01:03:17
That might have been an issue that we had in 2015-2016 when we were doing these older plans that we just said, we've got our priorities, now we're done, we're going to go off and run with them.
01:03:26
This is going to be something that we have to come back to annually because there are going to be little tweaks that we want to make along the way.
01:03:32
As we discover those tweaks, we're going to want to document them as well so that we know next time when we sort of start this process from scratch and figure out what the inputs are instead of using streets that work projects or master plan projects, we have lessons learned to go off of and sort of a direction to go in instead of starting from scratch completely.
01:03:54
So with that,
01:03:55
That's all of the details I have today.
01:03:57
If you have any questions, I'm happy to respond.
SPEAKER_11
01:04:00
That was great, man.
01:04:03
Thank you.
01:04:04
The study area is a city only.
SPEAKER_08
01:04:06
Yes.
SPEAKER_11
01:04:07
And so, and your favorite slide.
01:04:11
Can you put it up, please?
01:04:14
Here we go.
01:04:15
So when you look at that input known as connectivity, are you only connecting within the city or are you looking at
01:04:25
Where is that passed through the county, passed through the university, like is there an input that grades a project that can become continuous as it passes through the county then through the university?
01:04:39
And that was going to be my question, and I'll just kind of piggyback on that because you can answer at the same time.
SPEAKER_04
01:04:43
We have neighborhoods and streets that you have the county running into the city, so that's addressing what you're saying.
01:04:50
So how are we going to mirror those together?
SPEAKER_08
01:04:54
I'll have to look back at our tech memo to see how they did that connectivity analysis.
01:04:59
I'm not sure if it included city or county roads on that, so I'll double check that.
SPEAKER_11
01:05:05
As we know, you can go beyond Massey Road on the grounds and you're in the county for the first 300 feet and then you're in the city and then you pass back into the county.
01:05:17
But really the point was, is connectivity, is there an input that might elevate, if that's the right word, a project that could potentially create a continuous corridor?
SPEAKER_08
01:05:31
Yeah, I don't know the answer to that, but I'll look at our analysis and see if that's the case.
SPEAKER_04
01:05:36
We'll be happy to help with that.
01:05:39
Yeah, and I'm looking at Trevor because I want to make sure that we do somehow or another marry these projects and not have them
01:05:45
as best we can, right?
01:05:47
At least we're all looking at the areas together and the connectivity and not having, we're trying to get out of silos, right?
01:05:55
Silos don't help.
01:05:56
So we need to do this together.
SPEAKER_13
01:05:59
It's very good to hear that.
01:06:03
I know one thing, kudos on trying the two to five year window.
01:06:09
Trying to get a stable project that people try to work on over the next several years.
SPEAKER_14
01:06:14
Certainly the connectivity between the city and the county, most citizens don't know what the city county line is.
01:06:20
And I'm glad to hear you emphasize that to make sure that
01:06:26
Both the county and the city are working in a regional construct.
01:06:30
I think it's something that has been hobbled for many, many years, and that, like, that they're thinking beyond the borders, of course, the planners are operating, so that, how they learn from officials.
SPEAKER_04
01:06:41
That's great because in our urban districts I mean we have the city and the county just run right together and we need to figure out how for our constituents and our residents that it works and Jessica would be our point person for that.
01:06:58
So how we figure out that is really important.
01:07:03
This is a great question.
SPEAKER_15
01:07:04
Any other questions?
01:07:05
Yeah, I appreciate you sharing with us at city council.
01:07:09
I think, first of all, having a person like yourself who's focused on this is really important.
01:07:15
And secondly, I think the realization that city, I guess this is just the nature of it, has had this tendency to just add things to lists.
01:07:24
and somehow magically we're going to get through the list as opposed to really thinking hard about what's the most important and why and setting up achievable goals to get those done in three to five-year timeframe.
01:07:38
That's music training.
SPEAKER_08
01:07:40
Yeah, I mean we shouldn't, our priorities should actually be sort of a work plan of what we're trying to do and if we're saying our priorities are beyond what that work plan is then we're not really communicating to our citizens what we're actually doing.
SPEAKER_04
01:07:52
When you have pages of priorities you really don't have any priorities.
SPEAKER_08
01:07:55
Exactly, yeah it was sort of working that like the way it was working before was sort of if a funding opportunity came up that said show us that this is a priority for the city we could turn to any plan that we wanted to and pick it off the shelf and say this one says that it's a priority we can go with this plan so we're not doing that anymore thankfully.
SPEAKER_04
01:08:14
And again, as your time people are having one of them ask you, are there any other questions?
01:08:18
This was great information before and I really appreciate it a lot.
01:08:25
All right.
01:08:26
So, I think Sandy, you are next with MPO Transportation Improvement Plan Overview.
01:08:33
No minute, finally, is the tip.
01:08:36
So we're pulling that one up.
01:08:40
And I've not seen anybody on the whole screen, and I hope that there's no one that's had their hand up.
SPEAKER_12
01:08:44
Well, I just wanted to take a couple of minutes.
01:08:54
We are in the process of getting ready to
01:08:59
We're reviewing our transportation improvement plan and we will be hopefully adopting it in May.
01:09:06
So I wanted to take this opportunity to kind of give a really brief overview like TIP 101 so that you all can feel like if you want to engage with them and read it you can feel a little bit more educated and informed about what it is that you're looking at.
SPEAKER_01
01:09:22
The transportation improvement program is a financial plan for the employment
SPEAKER_12
01:09:27
So it's really similar for those of you that are very familiar with the capital improvement programs that your locality has adopted.
01:09:35
It's very similar to that on the transportation side.
01:09:36
So it's looking at what projects have been approved to be funded and then how are those projects, how is funding for those projects allocated over the next four years on the group of the plans.
01:09:49
It is used to schedule spending at federal transportation funds, so if it's a locally funded project or some sort of project that's funded just with state funding or something like that, it's not necessarily going to show up in this plan.
01:10:02
This is specifically for the federal funding.
01:10:05
The tip covers the four years of spending, so the next tip that we're updating is going to cover fiscal years 24 through 27, but because it's
01:10:16
can be kind of a long process to update it.
01:10:19
We've updated every three years.
01:10:21
So the most recent tip is going to go, it goes through federal year 24 and then this tip is going to pick up starting in federal fiscal year 24.
01:10:30
So there's one year of overlap which gives us an opportunity to get everything implemented and adopted both at the regional level and at the state level.
01:10:40
The anticipated expenditures, the scheduled expenditures are provided by VDOT on the roadway infrastructure side and then by the transit agencies on board.
01:10:55
The tip is one part of an overall project development process, so I just want to go through really briefly.
01:11:02
This focuses a little bit more on projects that are not based on formula funding, so the trends of agencies be that as well they'll get federal formula funding.
01:11:16
But outside of those formula funding projects, there's a process to develop projects that they can put in a pipeline to be allocated, to get funding validated.
01:11:26
So we go through a process of identifying what our project priorities are, for example, like a one-way transportation plan, a transit strategic plan, TDP, maybe a vision plan, or a feasibility study, something like that.
01:11:38
That helps us identify the projects.
01:11:40
We apply for funding for those projects.
01:11:51
Yes, we think this is a good project and we want to allocate funding for that project.
01:11:56
And then projects that are approved for funding through the state's six-year improvement program then make their way onto the transit improvement program.
01:12:04
So a lot of stuff is going through the process, but the projects that show up in the tip should have gone through another process before they get to the tip.
01:12:12
The TIP is really the regional entity's opportunity to review what those allocations are and agree that they accept those and approve of those.
01:12:26
So there are two sections of the TIP, generally speaking.
01:12:29
There's sort of the lead-out highway project side, and then there is the transit operations side.
01:12:35
So when you look at the tip, there are going to be two types of projects that are listed under the Highway Improvement side.
01:12:42
There's going to be what we consider regionally significant projects.
01:12:45
So those are projects that are listed specifically.
01:12:49
There's going to be a project name and it's going to say this money is going for Solutions 29 money or this project is going to Route 20 for this particular improvement.
01:12:59
There's a regionally significant project which means that
01:13:03
The region cares a lot about these and wants to know exactly what's happening as far as the funding allocation.
01:13:08
But then there are projects that are grouped together based on having a similar funding category that aren't as mutually significant.
01:13:14
So you can think about that as maybe your payment schedules or general maintenance or bridge rehabilitation or things like that.
01:13:22
Those are grouped together as one funding source.
01:13:25
The reason we want to group projects together is because when projects are grouped,
01:13:29
you can change funding within those project groupings without having to go through and do an amendment to the test.
01:13:36
So that gives VDOT or the localities that are administering the project the flexibility to be able to keep moving their projects forward without having to sort of be hung up with administering different oversight for review.
01:13:50
So here are just a couple examples just to show the difference.
01:13:53
This top box right here shows a regionally significant project.
01:13:58
Under this project, you can see right there where it says SGR, that means that it's funded through the state of good repair program.
01:14:04
The project name, this is a bridge replacement on Route 20.
01:14:08
And you can see that the federal funding forces are available down here.
01:14:14
So this is the schedule of how funding is going to be expended to replace the bridge on Route 20.
01:14:20
Now down here is a project grouping example.
01:14:24
So this is preventative maintenance and system preservation.
01:14:27
And again, it just shows that there's not a project name, there's not a specific grant program that's listed as a funding source, which is money that is allocated and is generally going to be spent on preventative maintenance and system preservation.
01:14:42
So with the projects that are grouped, there might be, I don't know, 10 projects.
01:14:47
And the projects, funding needs to move from project A to project B.
01:14:51
You don't have to go through and do any sort of amendment.
01:14:53
but if you need to move money from fiscal year 24 to fiscal year 25 or allocate money from this bridge project because we are under budget, because we are being such good stewards of our resources and we want to put it to another project, we would need to do an amendment to the TIP.
01:15:13
All right, so the transit obligations, remember these are provided by the transit operators for purposes of developing the TIP.
01:15:20
So the funding in the TIP, and we obviously have a whole river of DRPT folks and transit operators, so feel free to jump in if I misspeak, but the projects in the TIP are divided by the funding source, so you'll see all these numbers that represent which funding source they're pulling their funding from in order to
01:15:45
expend those funds and then the type of planned expenditure.
01:15:48
So whether it's operations, capital investments, things like that.
01:15:52
This will include the mobility management programming.
01:15:55
So we'll have an exciting announcement to share with you all about that.
01:16:00
And these are also projected budgets.
01:16:01
So we heard a little bit of a conversation here where there's applications for federal funds for certain types of new projects that might come in.
01:16:09
So this is
01:16:12
These are projected budgets.
01:16:13
This is what the best educated estimate is on what's going to happen based on what the historic federal formulas are.
01:16:22
But there could be a need to do adjustments if the allocations change for any reason.
01:16:29
All right, so here are a couple of examples.
01:16:31
So remember that Group 5, the type of expenditure in the federal funding source.
01:16:35
So this top block right here shows that there is one type of expenditure for job operating assistance.
01:16:42
But there are two different funding sources because John F. gets operating assistance that operates urbanized services as well as those local services.
01:16:51
So what type of expenditure but multiple funding sources for that.
01:16:56
And then in this bottom block it's kind of the opposite where there is one federal funding source
01:17:10
So you can see that under this one funding source, there are multiple types of expenditures.
01:17:15
This covers the rolling stock or the capital purchase of buses, both replacement and expansion as shown here.
01:17:25
But then it also includes passenger shelters as well.
01:17:28
So those are all listed separately.
01:17:33
All right, so as far as the actual approval process, we have a document that shows what all of these planned allocations are for federal fiscal year 24 through 27.
01:17:42
This is available on the MPO website.
01:17:45
We are required when we adopt a new tip to hold a 30-day public comment period.
01:17:49
So that is currently underway right now.
01:17:52
And then at the MPO meeting on May 24, we will hold a required public hearing.
01:17:57
The policy board is going to be asked to take action at the public meeting in May to approve the tip.
01:18:03
and then one that is approved that is basically our regional commitment saying that we approve both of these funding expenditures as presented and if there are any adjustments after that point we will need to process those according to the type of adjustment that is needed.
01:18:22
So that is your tip 101 overview.
01:18:25
I'm happy to answer any questions.
SPEAKER_04
01:18:27
And there's a test about it at the end of the day.
01:18:29
So are there any questions about it?
SPEAKER_15
01:18:32
The projects that have gone in this, presumably there's a backlog of ones that we've been looking at and sort of roll, I don't want to say roll along, but you don't start from scratch every time I guess.
SPEAKER_12
01:18:56
Right, so for example right now, I think we're going to, I think DRPT is going to give an update talking about the six year improvement program, but right now there are new projects that are being recommended for funding and they'll drop six year improvement programs.
01:19:11
So that's looking at, what six years from now, 2029.
01:19:17
So that's looking at going out to 2029.
01:19:25
says that they will approve the funding starting in 2029.
01:19:29
Well, this tip only goes through 27.
01:19:31
So the Commonwealth Transportation Board is going to fund those projects first based on their funding priorities or grants that they're awarding or things like that.
01:19:42
And then as we start moving closer and closer to that fiscal year, those projects will show up on our tip.
SPEAKER_14
01:19:51
Thank you.
01:19:54
Yeah.
SPEAKER_13
01:19:54
Hi.
01:19:56
We really like your dress today, Sandy.
01:20:06
Oh, thank you.
01:20:09
That's all good.
SPEAKER_04
01:20:10
All right.
01:20:13
With that, I'm going to use the Chair's prerogative to pause us on our agenda for a few minutes.
01:20:22
I think people are watching a little bit of some excitement going on back there.
01:20:27
And, um, Becca, we are aware that you have announced your retirement as of June.
01:20:34
and we did not want this opportunity to break some bread and share some cake.
01:20:42
So what I'm going to do is, so everybody has a chance to get some patty food and have a little fun for a few minutes.
01:20:53
We'll break for a few minutes, go over and get some cake and something to drink and I'm going to ask people to come back as they can and we'll continue with the provider updates
01:21:03
And the only thing I'm going to request as we do those updates while you're eating your cake is say something nice about Bethel.
01:21:11
Because we are going to miss you.
01:21:14
Bethel was at the very beginning of this partnership.
01:21:19
You were one of the people that started with the original group of us.
01:21:23
and most people don't know that when we started UVA with a non-voting member and Becca worked hard to bring the partnership together with the University of Virginia and at some point we had a letter from the muckety mucks that said we want to become a voting member and I said yay!
01:21:47
I really do appreciate your leadership.
01:21:48
And it has been wonderful.
SPEAKER_11
01:21:50
Thank you.
01:21:51
But it's such a surprise.
01:21:53
Thank you guys so much.
01:21:54
And I have a new boss.
01:21:57
And she said to me the other day, now tell me about this RTP.
01:22:00
What's been the strain behind the RTP?
01:22:04
And actually, my involvement in regional transit dates back till before Hank was born.
01:22:13
many many attempts at it and so I said you're asking this at a really great time because I'm able to give you a really constructive update to the effort to write a strategic plan, have a vision plan, go around the government's plan, having this kind of forum.
01:22:29
I said you asked the right question at the right time because
01:22:32
It's all in good hands and everybody has worked so hard to get us here.
01:22:37
So thank you so much.
01:22:40
And let Debbie pick my hair so I don't have to see what that actually means.
01:22:45
When you say that, I just looked it up.
SPEAKER_08
01:22:47
What am I?
01:22:48
That means the French Revolution is imminent.
SPEAKER_04
01:22:53
I'm going to ask everybody to get whatever you want, come back to the set, and then we'll each up with it together.
SPEAKER_13
01:23:08
And that means everybody.
SPEAKER_15
01:23:12
We have all been here.
SPEAKER_13
01:23:33
and of all the places we've seen.
SPEAKER_14
01:23:51
Alex in the house.
SPEAKER_13
01:24:18
Yes, we would need to talk about it for a little bit longer.
SPEAKER_14
01:24:40
It's with this environment.
01:24:40
It's very broad.
01:24:41
It's not easy to manipulate though.
SPEAKER_13
01:24:46
Thank you.
SPEAKER_08
01:25:14
that we've actually done a lot of traveling to the core of that stream.
01:25:39
So instead of doing that again, we're doing that again.
01:25:40
So what we are going to do now is take a photo and we're going to open it.
01:25:41
I'm just going to hold it for a couple of seconds, and I'm going to take a photo.
01:25:43
So we're going to open it.
01:25:43
Yes we were.
01:25:56
I think that's my very first.
01:25:58
I will always remember you, Stacy, whatever you speak in the mic.
01:26:16
And so, why do we do that?
01:26:34
Because it has to be put together.
01:26:35
And so, why do we do that?
01:26:35
Because it has to be put together.
01:26:36
And so, why do we do that?
01:26:37
Because it has to be put together.
01:26:37
And so, why do we do that?
01:26:38
Because it has to be put together.
01:26:39
And so, why do we do that?
01:26:39
Because it has to be put together.
01:26:40
And so, why do we do that?
01:26:40
Because it has to be put together.
01:26:41
And so, why do we do that?
01:26:42
Because it has to be put together.
01:26:42
And so, why do we do that?
01:26:43
Because it has to be put together.
01:26:44
I can take a couple questions.
01:27:06
and Katie Eisling who are authorized by not just one, that is to provide the list of things to say we need to build this one.
01:27:27
We have authorized a bunch of things, but the condition of the list is therefore that it would have to provide the list.
01:27:29
That list has to be drawn, therefore, as we told you earlier, including some things that are in use for $500,000.
01:27:32
What's that?
01:27:54
What's that?
01:27:54
What's that?
01:27:54
What's that?
SPEAKER_13
01:27:55
which has been some of the greatest moments of my life.
01:28:08
I have no idea what it's going to happen, but it's actually going to happen.
SPEAKER_13
01:28:10
but nobody wants one of those guys.
01:28:35
But nobody needs one of those guys.
01:28:36
I'm glad you like us.
01:28:36
I'm glad you like us.
01:28:37
I'm glad you like us.
01:28:37
I'm glad you like us.
01:28:38
I'm glad you like us.
01:28:38
I'm glad you like us.
01:28:39
I'm glad you like us.
01:28:39
I'm glad you like us.
01:28:39
I'm glad you like us.
01:28:40
What's the basis?
SPEAKER_14
01:28:47
Thank you for having me
SPEAKER_11
01:29:17
How come there's not an order that works?
01:29:45
It is so good.
01:29:47
Thank you.
SPEAKER_04
01:29:48
We'll try and let the people who have done that stuff in there now start with the updates.
01:29:55
All right.
01:29:58
Let's see.
SPEAKER_03
01:30:00
Charnaine, how about if you start?
01:30:03
Sure.
01:30:03
Is that all right?
01:30:03
I just want to talk about it a little bit.
SPEAKER_04
01:30:05
That'd be great.
SPEAKER_03
01:30:06
All right.
01:30:06
So what are we doing in Albemarle?
01:30:10
Certainly this entire year, we have been doing a lot of strategic work.
01:30:15
As everybody knows, we've had driver shortages.
01:30:20
It's just crossed the board.
01:30:22
When one goes up in salary, the other one goes up and goes back and forth.
01:30:25
So we're trying to look internally as to what we can do.
01:30:30
I have a number of things on before the board.
01:30:36
So some of those things I can't talk about yet because I'm waiting for equipment from the student board.
01:30:42
Once we get the green light,
01:30:44
And I will be glad to share what you came up with and what it is you're doing.
01:30:49
Some things will be favorable, some things will not be.
01:30:52
But a couple things I will mention.
01:30:56
We are looking at the internal routes and seeing strategically how we can align some of our routes to accommodate and to work getting students to school on time.
01:31:09
I know there's a strategy we used this past year with a 15-minute window.
01:31:14
We may have to utilize them again this year, this upcoming school year.
01:31:19
But we're certainly going to work very hard to get our children to school and do our best to get them there on time.
01:31:28
The other thing, we do have a RFP element to outsource a limited portion of our transportation.
01:31:35
As Garland had mentioned to us some time ago, that is a very expensive
01:31:40
very expensive, to the tune of maybe five million dollars.
01:31:45
So, we don't know, but I will say this, if we did find the money, it would answer a lot of the transportation problems that we had.
01:31:58
It certainly would put us in a really good light, and wherein we could certainly get our children to school, and not only just get them there, but get them there on time.
01:32:07
So, there are a number of things that we're working on,
01:32:10
And I'm really excited.
01:32:11
I may not be joking up until right now, but I am really excited about our plans and what we have worked on and what it is that I need to present so that I know parents probably feel like we have done nothing all year, but I promise you we have been in the churches working very hard to try to do what we can to get our students to school and get them there safely and on time.
SPEAKER_04
01:32:34
Can you give us an update on your electric buses?
01:32:37
Yes, yes, yes.
SPEAKER_03
01:32:38
We have two electric buses.
01:32:39
We have the infrastructure in.
01:32:41
We had some mechanical issues initially.
01:32:44
We got those worked out.
01:32:45
And so far, things are moving along well.
01:32:48
We should have two more coming in in the upcoming year.
01:32:51
And not until tomorrow.
01:32:55
Either tomorrow or next week, we have another meeting scheduled to talk about looking at the rent-to-purchase formula.
01:33:02
So your routes that you're using the electric buses on are in our urban green because you have to look at, they can't get too far away from the infrastructure, so you stay within less than 100 miles, but that works well for us in the urban green.
01:33:19
Our routes are real short in the urban green.
01:33:21
So, but the only thing, I think someone mentioned it earlier, you know, you put that kind of money in each bus, you want to get all the best bang for the buck.
01:33:31
But when you put it in an area where you don't get a lot of miles, we look at sixteen, two hundred thousand miles.
01:33:38
Sixteen years, two hundred thousand miles.
01:33:40
So it'll be a long, long time before we really get that kind of use out of the vehicle.
01:33:46
But it works well for the urban lane.
01:33:51
So we can't expect to move it further out in the rural area unless we have some infrastructures that way.
01:33:58
If we cut the infrastructures out there, then yes, we are on board.
01:34:02
We're looking at what we need to do to even purchase more for our sponsors.
SPEAKER_04
01:34:07
And I would just add to that, that I don't know whether folks know, but I know it will take too long to do this, but the Lands Lake Campus, which is Albemarle, Journey, which is the Jewett Middle School, with Journey and Greer, that campus is completed a master plan.
01:34:23
And part of the recommendations that came out of that master plan was to move the bus facilities
01:34:29
off of that campus for environmental reasons, but also for space need reasons.
01:34:36
And part of their recommendation in that master plan was to begin to move the buses to school sites, where the buses to the school sites.
01:34:48
And that's where we were thinking about building some of the infrastructure for electric vehicles or even for solar panels to be charging.
01:34:59
That's in the works.
SPEAKER_03
01:35:00
Of course, that's a ways off, but it is part of the long term plan.
01:35:03
Yeah, it is.
01:35:04
All right.
01:35:05
All right.
01:35:05
So that's what we have.
01:35:07
Just a snapshot of what we've known about it.
01:35:09
Great.
SPEAKER_04
01:35:10
Tim, I see you finished your cake.
SPEAKER_02
01:35:19
We're just finishing up our twenty-four budget.
01:35:30
I think all of our communities pretty much are funding us.
01:35:34
Green County, we're not getting quite our ass there, but they're having some tough times there.
01:35:43
In Buckingham, where we had to cut out weekend service, unfortunately, with the UVA,
SPEAKER_11
01:36:04
You told us about it.
01:36:07
What else did I tell you?
SPEAKER_02
01:36:18
I haven't worked with you too much, but I enjoy every moment.
01:36:22
I'm going to miss you.
01:36:23
Hopefully we'll come back and visit you once in a while.
01:36:26
It's been great to have you around.
01:36:28
A couple other quick things.
01:36:35
One of them is we do want to do a microtransit market analysis.
01:36:43
See, within our service zone, does that service delivery make sense for John?
01:36:48
So we're going to be exploring that.
01:36:50
Also, we've asked for money for a bus electric vehicle implementation plan, and that was
01:37:03
We're going to do that.
01:37:04
We're going to hopefully partner with North Dakota State University.
01:37:10
Do this guy and you're probably wondering, what?
01:37:14
They have a transportation unit called the Small Urban and Rural Ability Group.
01:37:23
They specialize in working with agencies just like ours.
01:37:29
Pardon me, I forgot to say, they have a great playing institute, you know, they're a cert com, so we're looking forward to working with them to help us find what our needs are in the rural parts of our service area.
SPEAKER_04
01:37:48
That's it.
01:37:50
Alright, thank you.
01:37:53
UTS, back up.
SPEAKER_11
01:37:55
Again, I can't.
01:37:57
I'm Florida violence.
01:37:59
I'm going to eat everybody.
01:38:01
So don't worry about that.
01:38:04
Yeah, thank you.
01:38:06
So, of course, we're all excited on the grounds because the dream come true of so many students.
01:38:13
Prime exercises will be taking place the weekend of May 20th and May 21st.
01:38:18
Classes actually end next week in student center exams.
01:38:22
It's a very happy time on Browns.
01:38:26
The not-so-happy thing that that triggers is the day after graduation.
01:38:31
There's going to be a number of road closures on Browns.
01:38:34
I think some of which have been shared for months.
01:38:39
The closure of Alderman Road and McCormick, for example, both being closed.
01:38:46
I got an email during this meeting.
01:38:48
It looks like we're going to lose Lane Road for the summer, the whole summer.
01:38:53
The whole summer.
01:38:53
So we'll be in touch.
01:38:55
But we love our students graduating.
01:38:59
But on the Monday after graduation and lasting 90 days, there's going to be quite a bit of road closures.
01:39:07
Alderman McCormick, Massey Roads closing for a month, and Lane Road's going to close for a month.
01:39:20
Yes.
01:39:22
I didn't prep a candle, but this is punishment for, you know, scheming behind my back.
01:39:31
But there has been a decision that there's going to be an investment made in our middle line, a transit depot, for us to stay there.
01:39:38
There had been some discussion over the years about
01:39:41
Could we build something?
01:39:43
Could we build this chair or something?
01:39:44
Could we, you know, what else?
01:39:46
But it appears that University Transit is going to make the investments to stay at Millmont.
01:39:51
And since everybody's asking about the battery electric bus status, I'll ask Kendall to fill in the gaps there.
01:39:59
We are in the last few months along our
01:40:04
to battery electric buses.
01:40:06
Our routes, unlike the city, more like a school route, we do have some peak service in morning, afternoons, and off peak.
01:40:15
We are never more than two miles from our infrastructure.
01:40:18
So there are some things that don't compare to other larger agencies.
01:40:24
But with that, I'll ask Kendall to hopefully install a phone number to formulate what you will say about where we are with our battery electric buses.
SPEAKER_13
01:40:34
So we have machinery rumbling in this summer as part of Detourpocalypse to jackhammer away at our lot and begin installing that infrastructure for our first four battery electric buses to roll in, now approximately mid-November.
01:40:51
As soon as we have them and have license plates on them, maybe we can do like a mobile RTP meeting and everyone can check it out.
01:41:03
Nothing fun, right?
01:41:03
We've got to check out the new bus stops.
01:41:08
That's right.
SPEAKER_14
01:41:08
32 seats.
SPEAKER_13
01:41:10
We can all be on the same bus.
01:41:14
We'll all be on the same bus.
SPEAKER_11
01:41:16
Proterra, ZX5.
01:41:19
And we're starting with four.
01:41:22
And there was, again, lots of talk about, ooh, should we accelerate?
01:41:28
Can we get central funding from UVA?
01:41:30
We don't get grant money, but some sort of central funding from UVA to accelerate since UVA has the carbon neutral goal by 2030.
01:41:39
And we've run buses for 15 years, to give you guys an idea.
01:41:43
So we're not required.
01:41:45
We don't have all the same requirements, but we also pay
01:41:50
That practice is there for a reason, to get the most out of your asset.
01:41:55
But we did not convince our leadership that we needed what we kept calling a shot in the arm to accelerate.
01:42:05
So we are going to have diesel buses in our fleet in 2030 when the carbon neutral goal goes into place for UVA.
01:42:14
as those buses age out.
01:42:16
So where we thought we could, there's possible we were going to replace the whole fleet within seven or eight years.
01:42:22
Now it's going to be 15.
SPEAKER_13
01:42:28
I can go into great detail.
01:42:30
Not right now, but if you want to hit me up outside of this forum, I can go into great detail.
SPEAKER_04
01:42:37
I want to ask you just quickly if it's possible, because that's part of my vote.
01:42:42
and Bierks Road is, you know, end of the city county and very congested now.
01:42:47
It's always better in the summertime when the students are gone.
01:42:50
But if you're aware of a time when it's going to really be shut down because of the construction or anything, if you could just send me an email and I can let some of the neighborhoods around there know that will make them happy.
01:43:02
Yes, we'll do.
SPEAKER_03
01:43:02
I think the closest one is probably Massey Road.
SPEAKER_04
01:43:13
One more minute.
SPEAKER_11
01:43:15
I'm just going to say there are four people in this room with whom I've had the pleasure of driving buses with.
01:43:28
And so I just want to say thank you and thank you.
SPEAKER_04
01:43:33
The key is, would you get back in a bus with a bus driver?
01:43:40
Yes.
SPEAKER_11
01:43:40
I want to say, what they don't like is driving behind me.
SPEAKER_13
01:43:43
I really sucked.
01:43:47
We try to be nice about that, but that's very true.
SPEAKER_04
01:43:52
I was just going to ask, did you all hit the radio as well about notifications for these road closures?
01:43:59
There are many rural people who come in through all of those roads that you just mentioned to get to other places.
SPEAKER_03
01:44:05
They may not live there, but they definitely will.
01:44:08
As much fun as in big signs, you know, that says don't put that in Georgetown because you can't go on under a truck, for example.
SPEAKER_04
01:44:14
We'll keep people from going the wrong way and then figuring it out.
01:44:19
Thank you.
SPEAKER_02
01:44:19
That's a great point.
01:44:20
We'll pass that along to the constructor.
01:44:25
That's their technical term, by the way, truth.
SPEAKER_04
01:44:29
Thank you.
01:44:30
All right.
01:44:30
Kat, so this will be in Charlottesville Schools Park.
SPEAKER_09
01:44:34
So I'll start with the transit side first.
01:44:38
So we have an article in the street to hire a consultant to help us complete our TSP.
SPEAKER_14
01:44:45
We actually had four, three, four.
01:44:54
Four groups?
SPEAKER_09
01:44:57
So we had clear women and as we selected Kenyon Horne.
01:45:07
Kenyon Horne started the process and we were running as fast as we can to get the, it's going to help to get a number of studies that are already completed.
SPEAKER_14
01:45:18
So it's going to help speed up the time through the metro soundtrack and be completed by December 30th.
01:45:24
So that was one of the major efforts and also the way that they put their presentation together.
01:45:30
They were clearly
SPEAKER_05
01:45:37
and they were doing TSPs for so many others.
SPEAKER_14
01:45:40
Right, right.
SPEAKER_05
01:45:42
Just by everybody else.
SPEAKER_14
01:45:43
Lots of experience.
01:45:44
So we grabbed them and we thought that would be great.
01:45:48
Now, we had a little bit of a blip a couple of days ago, just letting you know.
01:45:52
Our radio system, we had been working with Clear Communications, Motorola to get our new radios installed.
01:46:04
The system, the old
01:46:07
The system went down.
01:46:08
We were without a radio system for two days, but they started putting in a radio to actually help the community.
01:46:16
So it's back then.
01:46:18
Everything was wonderful.
01:46:19
We could communicate across
01:46:21
all channeled with you to communicate with fire, leaks, everybody.
01:46:26
So the new upgrades are wonderful.
01:46:28
That's right.
01:46:29
Very seamless.
01:46:30
Switching to, actually, the last thing is in July, we have not really focused our efforts on hiring for transit drivers.
01:46:39
We've been concentrating on students on the people side of the house.
01:46:43
But we will begin our efforts on hiring transit drivers, I'm sorry.
01:46:48
So we're still trying to make our efforts to get more pupil drivers in right now.
01:46:52
So on the pupil side, our focus is clearly on trying to get more drivers.
01:47:00
We have a pretty, I believe, an aggressive marketing campaign that's out there.
01:47:04
You've probably seen our commercial on TV and commercial on radios.
01:47:10
If you don't continue that, that will be going through June for that.
01:47:14
June for now, we're going to extend it.
01:47:17
July, we're going to do that.
01:47:19
and we're actually looking at globally the transit agency, you know, we're going to have to do alternative vehicles on the transit side.
01:47:32
We're also going to start that process of looking at alternative vehicles in schools.
01:47:37
Sometime next, that's just when, I don't know whether the time is, you know, September or October, but we will start that after, just before the other RFP, the consulting industry.
01:47:47
That is hopefully what schools, I don't know if we have, personally we're kind of pitching to schools about that.
01:47:55
So, I think I have paperwork, but I'm pretty sure we should all come get it.
SPEAKER_03
01:48:04
That's great.
01:48:05
Any questions to follow up on the floor?
SPEAKER_04
01:48:08
All right.
01:48:09
Candy, I'm going to look at you, the RPT, for your update.
01:48:12
And you see, if you'd come to join us, you could have had a piece of cake.
SPEAKER_10
01:48:18
We'll have one.
SPEAKER_01
01:48:18
He's really regretting that decision when we stop for the cake break.
SPEAKER_10
01:48:24
Great to see you all.
01:48:26
I think the main update is that the draft SIP is published.
01:48:29
You can find any of the trains and rail programs on the DRPT open data portal, which I'll send a link in the chat right after this directly.
01:48:38
And then if you have any questions, comments, concerns, feel free to reach out to me.
01:48:43
and then also the VDOT public meeting around all of the published drafts that will be for the Culpeper District will be Tuesday, May 2nd, if you're interested in attending that.
SPEAKER_04
01:48:58
Okay, that's it?
SPEAKER_10
01:48:59
Yep, I think that's it.
SPEAKER_04
01:49:01
Alright, any questions for Kate?
01:49:04
Alright, well thank you dear and I appreciate our damn time while we ate cake.
01:49:09
I appreciate you staying here at that time.
01:49:12
I'm thinking we have, Sandy, you have an MPO update.
SPEAKER_12
01:49:19
Actually, why don't we let Elizabeth go first, if that's okay.
SPEAKER_04
01:49:22
Okay, sure.
01:49:24
So, in the SIP that Katie just mentioned, the mobility management program that we applied for was recommended for funding.
01:49:33
We'll know it in June.
01:49:35
So, we are excited about that.
01:49:38
and we put out an RFP to find a partner to work with to provide the One Call Center services.
01:49:46
So we'll be working on getting a partner in an agreement in place for that.
SPEAKER_12
01:49:53
And then just real briefly regarding the MPO, the one thing I do want to cue up is that at our May meeting on May 24th, we will be having Aaron Belt from VDOT giving a presentation on the state's infrastructure, electric vehicle infrastructure deployment program.
01:50:12
So that was part of the national electric vehicle infrastructure funding that was approved through the bipartisan infrastructure bill.
01:50:22
There was a requirement that each state develop an implementation plan for the deployment of electric vehicle infrastructure, and so they were, after much back and forth, they were finally able to coordinate that.
01:50:34
So the state will be giving that presentation at our MPO meeting, which I think will be interesting.
01:50:39
And then otherwise, we're already talking about the next army smart scale, so we'll be having ongoing discussions about that, including some
01:50:48
So, pipeline studies that are going to be occurring with VDOT to start preparing for those and then we will also be talking about the Lomry Transportation Plan and we are anticipating that after this at next meeting and then we'll be launching into some pretty substantive public engagement as well.
01:51:06
So, we'll hear a lot more about that I'm sure.
SPEAKER_04
01:51:09
Well, certainly some of us have a real interest in those pipeline studies because they're critical.
01:51:14
One is Old Abbey Road and Abbey Road
01:51:17
which certainly affects lots of the transportation in this area.
01:51:23
All right, any other questions?
SPEAKER_05
01:51:26
One other really quick update, just because Sarah was not able to be here to apply for a technical assistance grant to a strategic plan for the ride share program.
01:51:33
And that is also, it was recommended for funding when we applied.
01:51:37
It was a 50-50 state funding local match.
01:51:40
So we're going to have to put that local 35,000, I think it was.
01:51:44
And they recently contacted us and said they also included in the draft, said that there was some federal funding that had not been used.
01:51:50
And they would like to apply that to our match.
SPEAKER_04
01:51:52
and you say, oh no.
SPEAKER_05
01:51:56
So that's in the draft so we'll wait to see if that recommendation is this one.
01:52:02
That's right.
SPEAKER_04
01:52:03
Alright.
01:52:04
Does anybody else have any other business going on?
01:52:10
Before that escapes, I just wanted to bring in this.
01:52:13
In 2000, when the chart, which is now called T-10,
01:52:17
when that was starting.
01:52:19
And you were 12.
01:52:20
We were.
01:52:23
But the notice was given to our locality that we weren't the end of the journey and walked out of the line because we didn't have a citizen home.
01:52:40
And all of a sudden,
01:52:41
I liked it at the time, scrambled around and grabbed a bunch of people and said, okay, you're now a citizen of the prize, right?
01:52:48
Which is great.
SPEAKER_03
01:52:50
Every month for eight years.
SPEAKER_04
01:52:51
And that citizen advisory model is so, I mean, it has a new head to it.
SPEAKER_14
01:53:01
It's great.
01:53:04
So when I first got here, one of the first calls I took when I got here was coming back up.
01:53:12
And we were able to speed out and make sense of that.
01:53:15
So we talked probably like at least once a month or probably every couple of weeks when I first got here.
01:53:23
It's got to wait a little bit during COVID because we're really trying to make sure we can hire our team.
01:53:29
But she's been wonderful to work with.
01:53:31
I'm a true partner in trying to make sure that Kat and BTS integrate more collaboratively.
01:53:38
So I know she's got a team behind her that's up for the tax.
01:53:46
I'll have them on speed dial soon.
01:53:50
But we'll work with you then.
01:53:51
But I just wanted to say, I personally want to miss you.
01:53:57
And I'm looking forward to taking you to lunch.
01:53:59
All right.
SPEAKER_04
01:54:00
I was going to say, that's that there's a way you can call on your phone and block it.
SPEAKER_11
01:54:09
She wanted to do that as well.
01:54:10
We have our mutual friend from Richmond, and she kind of set us up.
01:54:15
I should warn you.
SPEAKER_04
01:54:20
Anybody else doing in the bottom here?
SPEAKER_03
01:54:25
We really already missed you there.
SPEAKER_04
01:54:28
You're more than well than any.
01:54:30
I can be the three minute citizen.
01:54:31
You know, family citizens.
SPEAKER_14
01:54:37
But only for three minutes.
SPEAKER_04
01:54:40
Nothing to be tried for.
01:54:42
We should know from now.
01:54:45
Oh my, well with that then I know you all, oh it's five or six parts a county.
01:54:50
So with that I'm going to adjourn us until May the 25th, same town, same place.
01:54:56
And have a lovely night.