Planning District Commission Meeting   9/3/2026

Present.

Supervisor O'Brien.

Here.

Supervisor Hodge.

Present.

Supervisor Goolsby.

Supervisor Woodward.

Here.

Supervisor Reed.

Here.

Supervisor Repp with her.

Councilor Fleisher.

Here.

Chair Payne.

Here.

Now I just note that Christine Jacobs is with us tonight electronically.

We could move on to matters in the public.

Is there any other online or in person who would like to speak?

Seeing nobody, I'll close public comment and move on to meeting appointments.

I can speak to this one, Mr.

Chair.

This is Christine Jacobs online.

In our August meeting, we discussed this item and Commissioner Fleisher volunteered to be the TJPDC representative to the CVRHP.

Do we need a motion for that?

Yes, please.

Second.

All those in favor?

Aye.

I nominate Mr. O'Brien.

Aye.

Any opposed?

Any abstentions?

Yes, there's a mention we have Joe Kwadzinski with us today.

Slice.

Hi, everyone.

I've not met you all in person yet, but my name is Joe Klonsinski.

I have, for the last year and a half, been assisting Gloria Wolfshaus and, of course, Christine and David in administering the VODI projects.

It's been six months since our last update.

And I guess the good news is that since then we are truly nearing completion of the originally funded Body 22 project.

And I will try to be brief while going through this.

A lot of this is stuff you all already know.

Stop me if I'm going too fast, but hopefully I'll have some new information for you by the end of this.

You've all seen this map before and it hasn't changed.

The yellow represents the areas included in the Body 22 project.

and the red represents the areas covered by the much smaller but just as important body 24 product.

And again, I'm not gonna go over these numbers but this is the original between the two projects, the overview of the amounts of money involved.

I'm gonna go over some project highlights since last time we all spoke.

There's no denying that our partners in this project have had a huge impact on this project's success.

And again, we have 13 County partners still and they're both in us.

And we continue to provide updates during meetings with the County leadership, you know, starting constituent inquiries and encouraging everyone to visit Firefly's website, which we check and is being updated regularly.

Additionally, every quarter with Firefly and the utility partners, we have a

and the virtual stakeholders meeting.

The last one was on June 4th and the next one is next Thursday on September 10th.

This chart shows how the money for the Body 22 project is divided up and provides a comprehensive look at what money has come through TJPDC as of June 3rd.

I won't go over all of those numbers.

It's worth mentioning that

The county match is going to total 35,000.

So they're almost completed with all of the county match for the original Body 22 project.

And again, I'm not going to go over these numbers for the Body 22 grant progress as of August.

I think it's worth mentioning last time we reported to you the number of passings was 30,463.

So we're up 19% and the total is

for this project for the original Body 22 is supposed to be 38,785.

So as of that report, we are at 94% completion for this project.

Again, these numbers are less impressive.

It's a smaller Body 24 project, but this is the money that has come through to TJPDC as of June 30.

And I guess it's also worth mentioning the county match is just over a million.

So we're already more than halfway through the county match.

I think the total of the volume 24 is about 12.

And so we're more than a third of the way through that already.

And again, the grant progress, it's a smaller project, so the numbers aren't as impressive.

It is worth mentioning that the 479 passings are also now of service.

So everyone who is part of the 24 who's had access has elected to give service to the butterfly.

And so site visits, this is a chance for me and Laurie and David.

and Christine to go out and be able to say that we've seen with our own eyes the progress that has been made on this project.

So I'm going to go over a few of these.

Back in March, me and David went to Butchland and got to, along with some people from the state, Firefly representatives and representatives from Butchland County, and got to visit several site visits, work in progress, including, you know,

Diggs, digging the poles and splicing and thought of it.

I took a visit out to Campbell County in April, and again, I think the picture doesn't tell you much, but this area was about maybe 40 minutes outside of Lynchville, and the people that I talked to were pretty happy about having service in such a seemingly rural area.

Same with this paladin just south of Route 60, we were able to see

Workdone for both the 22 and 24 projects.

There's not a lot to see because a lot of that was on the ground.

But looking at the maps that they provided, it's impressive to see out of the two projects that have combined to provide mostly everyone in that area with broadband service.

I really enjoyed this visit to Madison County.

And this was recent body 24 work.

For those of you who haven't been out there, the drive from west of 29 to Syria and then up to Athens is quite scenic.

And then last week, Christine went out to Greene County and visited two sites that had work that had been done for Audi 22 and Audi 24.

And that's all I have.

I'm going to say as we're getting towards the end of this project,

Our sense is that we'll be hearing a lot more from people who may have expected internet by now.

And so if you hear from anyone who knows they should be getting Firefly, whether or not they've contacted them, we don't have access to any special information that you don't, but we can access the people who give us that information.

So I don't think my email is on here, but again, it's Joe Klesinski and you can find me on the TJPDC website.

And so if you have any questions, just if you can provide an address and contact information.

One thing I've never had to come back to someone and say, I can't answer your question because they have not given us an answer.

So I've been pretty impressed by the transparency and accountability.

And as we're getting closer to the end of this project, I just want to reiterate that, again, whether or not someone has contacted Firefly, that's part of what we're here for.

I don't have anything else if anyone else has any questions.

Can you go back to the budget pie?

That is probably something that Christine could address in the first look that you'll get a little bit later on, the fiscal year 28 budget.

But we have been for the program, primarily the folks that are billing to it.

That's also helpful because the next question

those hours.

Yeah.

It's a huge project.

Yeah.

The project is supposed to end in December and all of the ARPA money that is supposed to be spent will be spent by then.

So there's a chance that there may be some work that butterfly is still doing beyond that date.

And we're going to talk to the state and see if they actually want us to get an extension or if

Any other questions or comments?

Thank you all.

Good evening, Chair and TJPDC Commissioners.

Thanks for the opportunity to provide an update on our Chesapeake Bay and PDC Limp Island Implementation Program, or as we like to call it WIP.

This program is funded through the Virginia Department of Environmental Quality and supports our region's efforts to improve local water quality and advance Chesapeake Bay restoration goals.

As our communities continue to grow and develop, managing stormwater runoff remains an important challenge.

So tonight, I'll provide a brief overview of the program, highlight accomplishments from this current year, and discuss our proposed scope of work for the coming year, including an opportunity to bring additional funding into the region to support implementation of water quality projects and green infrastructure practices.

So this work is part of the broader Chesapeake Bay restoration effort.

In 2010, the EPA established the Chesapeake Bay Total Maximum Daily Load,

or TMDL, which is often referred to as a pollution diet, which establishes limits on the amount of pollution that can enter waterways while still meeting water quality standards.

And the TMDLs are really required for water bodies that don't meet water quality standards even after point source pollution controls have been implemented.

And then they calculate the maximum amount of pollutants that can enter a water body while still remaining healthy for uses like recreation,

drinking water, et cetera.

So to achieve the Bay restoration goals, each state within the watershed developed a watershed implementation plan outlining how the required pollution reductions would be achieved.

And planning district commissions in our program is just one component of a larger puzzle.

And so since 2018, the program has been supported approximately 58,000.

and annual DEQ funding matched by local contributions.

And our role is mainly to support regional coordination, education, provide project implementation support, particularly in the unregulated non-MS4 portions of our locality.

So excluding Charlottesville and the urban portions of Albemarle.

These are typically the whole rural areas that have fewer regulatory requirements and then funding resources to address water quality issues, but they still remain important contributors to the overall water quality outcomes.

So over the past several years, there's been more of a shift from DEQ, changing the focus of PDC's programming from planning and outreach and education.

More towards the implementation of green infrastructure practices, which we call best management practices.

So this shift reflects their need and our local need to accelerate on the ground projects that directly reduce pollution and improve water quality to eat these bay-wide goals.

So to support this effort first in 2024 and again in 2025, additional funding was made available through the IIJA.

And they enabled PVCs across Virginia to assist local partners with projects like tree planting, septic assistance programs, stream restoration efforts, and previous surface removal, et cetera.

And as many of you know, the MS4 communities are subject to, again, these more strengthened stormwater regulations.

So this funding's intended to address water quality challenges outside of those areas.

We're non-point source pollution, so typically from agriculture, septic, things along those lines remains a significant point of concern.

So last year, there was not additional implementation funding, or I guess this current year.

It was not made available in 2026, but it has now again returned for calendar year 2027 through a multi-source RFA that DEQ has provided to us.

which is NIFWG funding, EPA funding.

And this enables 1.3 million for areas outside of the most effective watershed basins with no local match required.

So pending approval of the resolution that's included in your packet, we intend to apply for additional implementation funds later this month

So similar to resolutions that I think just came for you last month, this would authorize Christine to take any necessary steps to apply, receive, and administer funding without additional approvals, and particularly because this was not identified in the budget for next year.

So I'll tell you a little bit more about what we intend to apply for in just a moment.

But this year, our work focused on implementation

Wiesner, regional tools and resources and partnership development.

So for our implementation projects, we continued the administration of $165,000 awarded to us in 2025 to support low-income homeowners with septic repairs, replacement, maintenance, and connection to public sewer to promote water quality goals, but also public health.

And then an additional $14,000 to host

in each locality within the region, and some having so much demand, we were able to do a second one in the fall.

And then we are updating our Stewardship Mapping and Assessment Project this year, or STUMAF, which I'll also discuss more in just a moment.

And then we continue to maintain resources on our website of grants related to watershed improvement and shared resources through our watershed newsletter.

And for partnerships, we are currently continuing our quarterly regional environmental coordination meetings where local planners, environmental staff, nonprofit partners are able to share information about what projects are currently ongoing, identify opportunities for partnership, learn about our program areas and the funding we have available, and then identify any relevant grant opportunities.

So we're also finalizing a new communications strategy and materials to support further regional education and outreach efforts related to water quality conservation and stewardship.

And a little more about the Stewardship Mapping and Assessment Project.

This was an initiative that was first developed by the USDA Forest Service in New York City back in 2007 and since has been adapted and reiterated in over 20 different locations across the globe.

And it's an interactive tool that's designed to better understand and strengthen our network of environmental stewardship organizations within our region.

So it helps users identify which organizations are working on what issues, understanding their geographic turf of where they're actually doing that work, and then what their network looks like.

So they're identifying who their funding partners are, who they go to for information, and who they just generally partner with to help identify other groups that are outliers that we can bring more into the fold and create more partnerships with.

And then the geographic data helps us understand if there's gaps in where certain work isn't happening or if there's overlap.

And again, more opportunities for partnership.

Okay, so this is just a screenshot of our 2023 student map dashboard.

which was developed using survey data collected from stewardship organizations back in 2023 and we've updated the survey this year and it's currently reopened through October 1 and we are going to be updating this dashboard in partnership with the UVA Biophilic Cities Initiative and we're doing this project update in coordination with them and our intent is to capture more groups

And we're also including some new information about where specific projects are happening instead of just the overall extent of where you do work so that we can again better identify gaps.

And then UVA is bringing to the project some additional funding from

R.K. Mellon Foundation, and their questions added to the survey will help align private funders with the local conservation priorities that these stewards help to identify.

And just last month, we hosted a kickoff event at UVA with environmental stewardship organizations and gathered their feedback on how the dashboard could better support this work.

And we got a lot of great ideas and opportunities for improvement.

So we're really looking forward to incorporating that early next year after we've got all the data collected.

So looking ahead, our proposed 2027 work program, specifically with the additional implementation funding, we're focusing on continuing the momentum of our current implementation efforts.

I forgot to include here the septic program as well.

But we'll continue to host our regional rain barrel workshops and apply for additional funding to support low income homeowners with septic work.

We'll work really closely with our housing foundations to implement that.

And then within the baseline $58,000 funding, we plan to continue our regional environmental coordination meetings, implement the regional communication strategy, and continue

O'Brien.

I just wanted to note as well that we reached out to your local staff about this multisource RFA, and so they have the opportunity to apply if they have any shovel-ready projects.

So as of now, we haven't heard anything, but unless we receive additional feedback with your support, we do intend to

That's all I have.

I think that's somewhat of a hard question to answer.

The statewide improvement plan continues to kind of go down the line after goal for moving towards the pollution reduction.

The TMDL has set, continues to fail.

So EPA has kind of the

The power under the Chesapeake Bay groups, where if local states don't meet these requirements that they've set in their watershed implementation plans by a certain date, that then they can require these non-point source areas to do actions to meet all of the goals.

There's a great website called Chesapeake Bay Progress where you can track each individual goals because it's broken down based on agriculture, water supply, and point source.

and a few other sectors.

So, yeah.

We just received notification earlier this week that the local match is no longer required.

And I'm not sure if that's for 2027 or 2028,

So yeah, not prepared to provide an update on that yet.

It doesn't make a lot of sense for them.

Yeah, we haven't had the formal update from DEQ on that yet.

We just have an independent email, so I'm not really sure what the thinking is alongside that.

and we had estimated completing at least 35 of those types of projects.

But based on what we're seeing with our work with the housing foundations, it's been a lot more requests for the larger, more costly projects like a new septic system design, repairs and replacements.

And in this original scope from 2025, we had marketing funding and worked with the local radio station to do verbal and digital ads

But the housing foundations didn't find that was really effective in encouraging more homeowners to do the best maintenance practices.

So that would be one of our goals is to better promote that.

And I think it's more so too, just as the word gets out about the program, there will be more demand as it's established.

But yeah, we'd like to encourage more best maintenance so that folks are really understanding the benefits to the watershed.

That's what we just, last week we had the Fluvanna-Louisa housing meeting.

Trying to work with them, like as they're working with homeowners on different kinds of products, as they do all kinds of rehabs, they're like,

When's the last time you had your septic system pumped out to just encourage?

We'd suggested maybe when we do a repair on a place to track that address to then send them reminders.

This is about the time you need to do something rather than wait for them to come back in seven years time.

Any other questions or comments?

Bignan, where there's a resolution for implementation funding for the watershed improvement program.

There is a motion to submit.

Would you roll call vote?

All those in favor?

Aye.

Yes.

Any opposed?

Any abstentions?

The resolution passes.

On to the public hearing for the solid waste management plan.

I was just going to make one note.

So as the commission may recall last month, you saw a presentation regarding the draft solid waste management plan.

Since then, we presented the plan to each jurisdiction for review and consideration.

There was a public comment period that was held during August and staff received two written comments during that period and those have been printed in advance of the meeting and are available for your review.

And this plan also requires a public hearing held at the commission meeting before being submitted to DEQ.

And so next month, the commission will have the plan on their consent agenda for approval.

There are no questions from the commission.

I will open up the public meeting.

Is there anyone either online or in person who would like to speak for the public hearing?

Both of them are Mr. Goad's constituents.

Really?

We've noted that they have been received and as part of the WIP

Recycling, and the second one was a desire for the document to focus more on the documentation of future projects, just to kind of summarize the comments that we received.

There is nothing else.

All right.

I was realizing this slide looks so simple, but it's capturing an immense amount of work, both at TJPDC and with all of our subrecipient nonprofits.

So this report just covers

from July of 2029 through June of 2026, looking at specifically the home funds that our consortium spent.

So it was a little over a million.

And with that, they were able to complete 16 homeowner rehabilitation projects, which can be really exciting.

They can cover everything from someone's roof to repairing windows to installing ramps for folks who need, who can't get the stairs.

And so those can be really powerful impactful projects that preserve affordable housing.

So we're very glad to see that as continuing.

We did have one home buyer unit completed.

That means another family has been able to afford a home.

And then that also includes a fair amount of money spent on for rental units that

were not completed within the year, but are now being, now are complete.

And the funding was spent on that, that will be for low income households.

And the city of Charlottesville provides most of the match funding for the home consortium.

And this year, this is how that much match funding was spent.

So AHIP also did, I don't have the exact number, but they also did a few homeowner rehab projects with match funding from the city.

PHA, deepening affordability, that project is related to rentals as well.

And for Habitat, that is related to home buyer housing.

And for the report, which you can hopefully read the whole thing online, the public comment period will not end until September 16th.

So please feel free to look at it in depth, give comments and feedback, ask questions.

My contact information is with Anthony Warren from the city.

He's on the CDPG side.

And you are the first hearing that we are having, and then the city will be having two hearings through September, and then we will be

Questions or comments?

If not, there is a public hearing, so I will open up a public hearing.

Is there anyone in person or online who would like to speak?

Seeing nobody, I will close the public hearing.

Is there a resolution to adopt the 2025 home CDPG caper?

So second.

All those in favor?

Aye.

Yes.

Any opposed?

Any abstentions?

Resolution passes.

Great.

So this is for the housing preservation grant.

There's not a slide deck for this.

This is a grant that we have administered since 2015.

USDA released the new notice of funding opportunity.

We'll be applying for $83,819.

Any individual applicant is only eligible for half of the Virginia allocation.

So that represents half of how much Virginia gets in HPG funding.

The statement of the activities that we will do with those funds are included in the meeting materials.

Typically they are small and medium scale renovations on homes for income eligible households.

And they generally are typically under 5,000 per repair.

So as you can see that money doesn't go very far, but we are hopeful we can get the full half this time.

In previous years, there's either been two or three eligible applicants.

So we are hopeful to get either a half or a third of the state's allocation.

Additionally, this year we're applying for it's the same grant, but it's actually under an FY 23 disaster funding pot of funds.

We're eligible for up to $50,000 to help repair homes that may have been damaged by the winter storm in January of 22.

There is also a statement of activities within your packet.

Again, that would be for small scale repairs up to 5,000 for any homes that were impacted by that storm that are also income eligible.

Also under Executive Order 12372, an Intergovernmental Review, an IGR, is required for this grant that provides opportunities for all the local governments directly affected by the federal financial assistance to weigh in on our application.

The TJPDC is designated as a regional entity for those IGRs within Region 10.

So included in the meeting packet is also the request for the IGR and then also draft resolutions for your support.

Before the public hearing, are there any questions from the commission?

If not, I will open up the public hearing.

Is there anybody either in person or online who would like to speak for the public hearings?

Seeing no one, I will close the public hearing.

Is there a motion to approve the first resolution related to the disaster related grant?

So moved.

Second.

All those in favor?

Aye.

Yes.

Any opposed?

Any abstentions?

Resolution passes.

And is there a motion to approve the second resolution for the grant?

So moved.

Second.

All those in favor?

Aye.

Yes.

Any opposed?

Any abstentions?

The resolution passes.

On to the consent agenda.

Is there a motion to approve the consent agenda?

I so move.

Second.

All those in favor?

Aye.

Yes.

Any opposed?

Any abstentions?

The consent agenda passes.

Great.

I'll share a couple comments first about the FY28 draft and then pull it up for your review.

Just a review of the process for those of you that have been through this several times and a review for those of you that have not.

We present the FY28 each annual budget in the fall.

We prepare the budget to set the local per capita rates and the local funding requests that come before the local governments as a part of your own budget process.

So then we will come back to you in April or May of 2027 to update that same budget that we projected with known sources and any changes.

As you can see from tonight, we apply for a great deal of our funding in the fall.

So we can update that budget with known sources, come back to you in the spring with it.

The FY28 budget is balanced with the assumption of only known or highly anticipated revenue sources.

So you will see that there are some gaps in here that we intend to close, but I did not want to put them in without

either having an agreement in my hand or some sort of certainty that we would receive that funding.

To balance the budget this year, there's a one-time reserve transfer needed of 147,000.

That is the largest reserve transfer that I've seen in my tenure here.

It does include about 8,400 in capital reserves to pay for some of the building renovations that we paid upfront and then are depreciating over time.

And then 139 in one-time savings.

In past several years, the projected budget has showed a need for the reserve transfer, but we've never had to dip into our savings in the past four years.

I'll also note that we have had sizable net gains in the last several years.

As you guys know, our indirect cost rate is on a two year lag.

So our actual indirect costs in 25 set the 27 rate.

The actual cost of 26 set the 28 rate.

So in some years we may bring in

More indirect costs than our actual expenditures.

In other years, we may actually not bring in the same amount of indirect costs to cover our actual expenses.

So you'll see for the FY28 budget, we're anticipating an indirect cost rate of 41%.

As you recall, this year it is 50%.

So we are hitting a very low indirect cost rate, which means we will not be bringing in as much as we have in previous years in those indirect costs.

We do have several one-time significant programs.

Supervisor Pruitt, you touched on this with VODI that will simultaneously be coming to a close, NFY 27.

A couple of those are VODI 22.

We've got the Virginia Housing Development Grant that was developing units.

We've got the Regional Housing Study funding.

We've got it with implementation funding.

There was significant amount of federal funds that we knew that were one time that were coming in that are not going to be available in this FY28 budget.

This budget does assume a $0.72 per capita rate that was approved by the commission back in the 2022 September session.

They approved a $0.02 per year for five years.

This is the last year of those five years, so it's not until 2029 that we re-review that rate.

I will also say that the budget right now has a placeholder for salary increases for a cost of living adjustment.

We will certainly have to revisit that come spring if we have not closed the gap more than it is standing right now.

It's important to note that all staff in this budget are not fully allocated at this time.

Usually we try to allocate

Dierktor Level staff in the 85 to 90 percent and planners in the 95 percent.

Not all staff are allocated to that degree because of the number of programs that we're losing.

The reason that I'm noting that is if we were not to find programs that would close that gap it would have a direct impact on our indirect cost rate again.

What that means is staff would not be billing all of their time to programs.

They would have time that was administrative cost and then that rises that indirect cost rate in future years.

The FY28 actuals will actually impact FY30's budget with a higher indirect cost rate.

I'm now going to share my screen just to show you guys a couple of numbers.

If you'll give me a second.

You guys can let me know if this is too small.

I recognize sharing spreadsheets on a screen is never ideal, but you do have them in your packet.

If you want to zoom in or review any closer,

So I'll start with local funds, because this is what the fall budget is intended to do, is set that rate.

So you can see up on your screen that we use the Welding Cooper Center's projected rates population.

The only locality that is actually showing a drop in population is because of a change.

Am I sharing?

Let me just confirm that you guys can see what I see.

Give it a second.

That's loading.

Perfect.

So the Weldon Cooper Center numbers are on the left for population.

Charlottesville's population is actually showing much lower than the previous year because of a change in the methodology for how they count people related to the university.

If anybody wants additional details on that, I do have a report describing that methodology that I'm happy to send around to people.

And then you can see that is in the green column here.

That's the amount of per capita that we would receive if the 72 cents were approved in next month's budget.

Then we also, in those yellow, I'm assuming they show up yellow on your screen, those are the local requests that we make for individual programs.

The funding that we receive from the local governments for these programs can only be spent on these programs, so they are classed that way.

Then the, whether it's blue or light lavender on your screen, that's the total contribution that we're requesting from each of our local governments for all of our programs.

Then I'll go back to that per capita rate that I initially showed you at that 72 cents from that per capita rate.

When folks say, how do we spend our local funds?

We then have to back out from those per capita funds, any required local matches on grants that we receive.

If we have a federal or a state grant that requires a percentage B local, we use the per capita funding to cover that match.

We also have a couple of programs, for example, the home consortium and the USDA funding.

that the amount of admin that the grant provides is generally insufficient for the amount of work that is required in order to administer those funds.

So we do use some of the local funding to ensure that we can still bring in those state and federal resources into our region.

And then in this last previous year, the commission did agree that they were willing to contribute a little bit towards the operations of the corporation, the nonprofit arm, since it continues to benefit both the PDC programs and the localities.

And then from that balance, what we do is per the policy that you all set is any remaining balance in those per capita funds that are spent.

75% of those funds need to be spent on regional initiatives.

That means it has to be two or more localities involved.

As an example, as we're looking at this rural health transformation, if we're pursuing pipeline opportunities that will touch two or more localities, we would bill it to this regional bucket of funds.

and then 25% of those funds are to be allocated for direct hyper-local technical assistance.

If we're asked to sit on committees or help with comp plan chapters or do mapping initiatives, that would come out of this local bucket.

And then going to move to the next screen.

If you have me while I scroll and resume.

This one is gonna be much smaller, but again, it is in your packet.

The next part of the budget is all of the revenues that we anticipate receiving.

Again, I try to only put in here ones that are either confirmed or are highly likely to be confirmed.

There are a couple things I did not include in this budget because we don't yet know for certain that we will receive them.

So the state DHCD annual funding that we receive is that one in the center, the $115,000.

We also get a little bit of rental revenue from using the Water Street Center and some vacant spaces in the back that we rent out to subtenants.

We have interest income that we receive.

This column is the local per capita.

You'll see Charlottesville and Albemarle are actually highlighted because there is some rollover per capita that we'll be using because there is some rollover MPO funding.

So we did not spend the local per capita for that required match.

We'll roll it into next year.

And then this right here, the highlighted yellow is the gap that we have at this time.

O'Brien.

And then I will scroll down very slowly, but this is the federal, state, and local portions of all of the programs that we operate.

And then I will scroll down to the last, please forgive the scrolling last time.

This is the final page of the budget that shows the total budget revenues and expenditures.

As you can see, FY28's budget is a very different

Look, then we have seen in the last several years, and that is primarily due to VATI.

So it is a very little budget of 3.5 million in revenues, 3.5 million in expenditures.

You can see some of where those differences are is in that federal, state, and local parts of VATI.

As I scroll down, you'll see that the personnels are slightly lower because with some of those programs falling off, there are staff associated with those programs that were hired to administer those grants that we may need to downsize if we don't have additional opportunities.

Can you give me one second?

Sorry, my daughter's letting me know she's about to blow dry her hair and didn't want to interrupt.

I apologize.

And then, sorry about that.

And then expenses, again, you'll see the majority of that pass-through that is different is related to the body pass-through.

So right now the budget that I'm presenting to you is a balanced budget, but again, it does require, if we were not to fill in any of the gaps, it would require that 147 in reserve transfer.

If it's helpful for context, I did have, I'm going to stop my share just so you guys don't have to see me scroll, but I did confirm with our finance director

The amount of net gains that we have had in the last couple of years.

In 2026, our net gain was 46,281.

In 25, our net gain was 150,574.

And in 2024, our net gain was over 460,000.

So we have ample in our reserves.

We definitely have budgeted to be able to put those reserves aside for years when that indirect cost rate is low.

and or programming is shifting.

There's still some uncertainty in some of our federal programs.

We're seeing those amounts go down a little bit at a time.

The home funds, the HPG funds, they are shrinking over time.

But what I presented to you as the best scenario that I have for right now, knowing that we are pursuing many opportunities between now and the spring, I do anticipate being able to

You know, with my best confidence, I'd say we'd be able to close the majority of that gap.

I am uncertain that we will close the entire amount by the time it comes back to you in April.

Happy to take any questions.

This is not an action item.

Christine?

Yes.

I'm suggesting your remarks.

Would I be amiss in forecasting that two or three years from now,

I think that would be a discussion that you all would have as a commission.

And so what the appetite is for increasing the local contributions to the PDC.

Certainly the way that it has been done in the past has been very minor one cent, two cent increases per year set over time.

I think it would be important for us as we're coming off of that five year to say what is the best way to analyze what the local contributions should be and what is the programming that you all want us to be pursuing that helps meet your local needs and should that be funded locally or should we be seeking other funding opportunities in order to meet those programming needs.

So for example, reaching out to a couple of other peer planning district commissions, how they do their per capita, everybody does it different.

Some of them index it to some published number, whether that be a cost of living or an inflation, they just follow whatever that published number is.

Others of them prepare their budget and make a different per capita request every single year, depending on what they need to close their budget.

Can you repeat that?

Yeah, I think so.

I think it's also important

It's important to note, and I don't think we're anywhere near this yet, but I think it's important to note that four or five years ago, the Planning District Commission had a staff of about 12, and with all of these new federal one-time funds, we did staff up.

We expanded the planning district in order to accommodate all of those programs.

I think we're going to have to look at, do we think we'll continue to have programs at the scale of things like BODI?

and will we need to contract just to get back to the size that the PDC was operating before these one-time opportunities.

Any other questions or comments?

Chair.

Christine, the rent, the rent, at what point does rent become as an overall percentage of the budget not sustainable?

It's up 51% since fiscal year 25.

I'm assuming part of that leap is with the renovations that they're going and just rent increasing generally, but I know we've discussed this in the past in a little different way, but I've never actually looked

I'm sorry to say to see that it was 107,025 and you're projecting it to be 162,000.

And when we're looking at a one-time transfer reserves of 147,000, half of it is rent increase.

Yeah, I actually have two separate thoughts on that.

Thank you for posing that question.

One of them is that the rent number that you're seeing in the budget is also variable, dependent upon how much we are receiving in revenue for renting our space out.

And so this is the total that we would be paying as an administrative budget.

If you can recall, through the renovation, we were not collecting rent from any of our tenants.

We were not renting out the space through the pandemic.

We were not receiving rent coming in.

So that rent is also variable.

dependent upon how in demand are those spaces.

For example, right now we have two vacant offices that we are about to advertise because we have had tenants that have terminated their leases.

So when that happens, we have less revenue coming in to cover our actual rent.

That's part of it.

I would say the second thing is about every five years, this organization talks about buying a building versus renting.

In this last round, the buildings committee and the executive committee

determined that it was still financially feasible and it was still desirable to stay in this building.

Yeah, I appreciate that.

And just for $31,000 is what's being projected for the rental income coming in as it shows on the budget.

So the other one that's going down, speaking of renting and making this a space that's of interest to people to rent, since it's an income generator, the data line, and it seems like the data and equipment line has been decreasing over the last few years.

And as this space had got upgraded, I begin to wonder if the technology matches the upgrades that we've done and that the commission may be thinking coming into the next budget that we may want to think, well,

Do we want a screen that shows spreadsheets that are not one, you know, we could actually see the numbers on.

And this is the one spot of all the places that I attend meetings at, where it seems like the visual, the people that remote in is the most frequent.

So for example, like MPO, and we're here for MPO, we've got VDOT people, we've got DRPT people, they're traditionally on the screen.

It just seems like if this place had a little bit better

Tech significance now that we've got the other stuff, the shine on it a little better, that it may help with that rental income piece because it'll be a more viable meeting space for people.

So I'm just throwing that all out well in advance as food for thought as the next budget cycle comes around.

I don't have that offhand, but I can find it for you by the end of the meeting.

I do know that it is below market rate.

Even with the renovations, it is still per square foot below what the market.

It's just, I mean, for a couple of years ago, when we talked about rental versus maybe owning something, it was $55,000 lower.

And we weren't really knowing the renovation was coming the last time that discussion happened.

So I think when, to Christine's point, it will be exactly right.

We're going to have to look at the rent and very different, with different eyes, this next go around relative to does it continue to make sense?

And maybe it does, but at some point we have to go, at what point does the rent percentage hit a cap or a

Yeah, I saw that year over year wasn't that bad.

And it's not contrary to your point because it's still

Yeah, I don't think we've always had a good deal.

Right.

Any other questions or comments?

You referenced it.

Correct.

Yeah.

Walden Hooper has changed how they're calculating that.

I know Taylor Jenkins on my team did a deep dive because it impacts our MPO numbers.

I don't, I don't have the answer for that.

I mean, it is definitely the one that they published was significantly lower, which is what made us go look into why is this so much lower?

Right.

Yeah, I'm just wondering out loud, I don't know if it necessarily makes sense for Charlottesville's contribution to going down while everyone else's is going up, just as a kind of byproduct of that methodological quirk.

That is, for me, are there any other questions or comments?

You finally get a credit from UVA.

I think it was two.

All right.

Give me a quick minute.

I'm going to switch my screen because I was looking up the price per square foot.

And that is not what I'm meaning to show with you.

All right, so just a couple of high-level things I want to highlight from the written executive director's report.

It's in there with greater detail, but I wanted to make sure to draw your attention to the Rivanna River Basin Commission meeting that is happening September 30th.

It's their annual conference, not meeting, their annual conference.

So that's at the center at Belvedere,

I also wanted to draw attention to some information bringing you back an update on the rural health transformation that we brought up last month and that you guys passed a resolution to allow us to pursue further.

We did meet with staff from DMAS, Department of Medical Assistance Services, responsible for executing contracts on rural health transformation funds.

We met with them August 26th.

They indicated that they were really interested in PDCs cooperating together to submit super regional applications.

That's primarily because a lot of the health systems serve beyond individual PDC footprints.

It's also to reduce some duplication in administration.

So on Friday, last Friday, August 28th, we met with Rappahannock-Rapidan.

We have partnered with them on super regional projects before, like the comprehensive economic development strategy to consider submitting a joint application.

I also wanted to share with you, I put it in the executive director's report, but I'll put it up on the screen that the risk of you probably won't be able to read it anyway to supervisor Galloway's point.

But there's a little bit more information than I shared with you last month.

on what the initiative is and what the use of funds are.

You'll wait a quick second.

I'll make sure it came up on your screen.

Can you guys, is it at least up on your screen?

Not that you might be able to read it from there.

Yes.

All right.

So the initiative that they reached out to PDCs for was called Connected Care Closer to Home.

There are several sub-initiatives under that related to mobile and hybrid care, community paramedicine, and innovative maternal care.

You can see all the different eligible uses of those funds.

This is anticipated, not confirmed, but anticipated to be a five-year program, which made me feel a little bit better about taking the risk in the first year that there would be additional opportunities moving forward to refine the process.

And then there are intended key stakeholders for being sub-recipients of those funds.

They could obviously include healthcare systems,

Health districts, maternal and family medicine providers.

So there's all sorts of eligible sub-recipients for the funds.

We would be required to put out a request for application.

So an RFA where folks would then apply in for us to make sub-recipient grants.

And then the table that I'm showing, the five-year funding table for the initiative does break out how much funding is available for each of those initiatives.

In year one, they're looking about 64 million for this across the Commonwealth.

and then there are additional tens of millions of funds in the following years.

With your support, we do intend to submit an application to DMAS in partnership with RRRC.

We have not yet seen the draft agreement.

We are expecting to see that hopefully by the end of this, maybe tomorrow early next week, they are in the early stages of creating drafts of those agreements.

And then David and I will both sit in on negotiations with that agreement to see how we can make sure that both planning districts have access to those funds in the areas that they need.

And then once we're under contract, hopefully I will, David, we would anticipate being under contract early October, but we're required to do so by the end of October.

So we might be able to bring back additional information to you at the beginning of October if we have not executed a contract yet.

Happy to take any questions.

That's all I have.

Any questions or comments?

If not, we'll move on to

Right now we're trying to figure out how to slow growth, some of it's all in the terminal, trying to figure out how to do this, and some of it's in the settings, and so what we'll see is that grades, some of it has a little bit of a difference in the ones that should fit into

and Evangeline Lefa.

I'm going to love you to death.

The most important thing is that I think I was part of the elected, so I'll have to share with you this for a while.

I took a trip to the game for the war.

Nine intakes, fourteen.

I was having some snow fitting up in the water party.

And now that all of the red tape

Stroud, we've done all of the events, and the guys doing the construction to get it rolling.

Faulkner is doing a great job.

They've got to be entertained.

How's the value of the gravel at the first floor of the finished field anyway?

I'm going to be able to come here any day again.

They're projecting

Ward, Flaucken, October next year between October and September.

I think I'm going to be proud of that.

Well, two years ago, she asked me to do it as an American civilization.

Part of me bleached her.

And we were a gang.

I said, sorry, you just can't believe I'm passing through.

We were that language.

It was a long night?

Yeah.

Way too hot.

Davis, and how much can it get accomplished once you've all been trained in your lives.

It's great to be able to celebrate.

All right, great.

Very briefly, last month we had a board meeting at Kane County.

The supervisors renewed their examination of the county's zoning ordinance for agritourism with an emphasis on farm wineries.

Over the past several years in Greene, we've had an emerging issue, and it's my understanding this is also an issue in other counties throughout the Commonwealth, where developers purchased an agricultural zone parcel

make a pretense on farming and then declare that there are farm, quotation marks, entitles them to operate a farm winery, which is a de facto events center.

These events centers can have an impact on a rural landscape.

At a public hearing, we held at a board meeting earlier this year, Greene County residents were adamant about wanting to see controls

on farm wineries in terms of the number of annual events, the number of attendees at events, and most particularly, controls and enforcement on how people are amplifying music.

Now, our friends in the developer enterprise are displeased with the idea of curtailing events centers.

Indeed, recently, on the Rob Schilling Show podcast, Neil Williamson

was remarking on an application pending in Albemarle County about an agritourism enterprise called The Barnes on North Road.

Neil was unhappy with the recommendation to curtail the number of yearly activities from 2014 to 8.

Personally, I think curtailment is good public policy and reflects a willingness to listen to the concerns of the presidents.

Whether a similar philosophy will imbue reading's efforts to deal with their advertourism of wordness remains to be seen.

Charlson?

We have, as of last night at nine o'clock, we have closed our riverfront encampment.

We moved everyone out into shelter or alternative housing.

and that was an effort that involved multiple departments and agencies as well as non-profits and community volunteers.

So that's kind of me on the deadline set for opening an emergency shelter during the weekend.

So November is where we met.

We have 26 guests, well 27 guests.

As of this afternoon, who and doors are open, so there's the 24-7 low barrier shelter at 2000 Holiday Drive, a building we purchased last year.

So that will be serving folks for at least 12-month posture in their emergency status.

And will ideally be converted into a permanent emergency shelter within all of our mobile

continue to both care and housing services and support from other city teams that will be working to staff that location.

Right now it's being operated by an Arizona entity called Central Arizona Shelter Services which has the part of which you need to do all the operations for at least that

as long as it remains in a specialty shelter.

So that was a big stress in services and shelter services for the region.

The 26 now are, I don't quite have the data on the both calendar breakdown of that, but many of them came directly from the program, so it was of the same stats from the last time we've done that.

And then related to the

River Trail, where the cleanup of that trail began Monday with our city's contractor and will continue through Saturday.

They don't finish tomorrow, but if you have been on the trail as of late, one of the properties we've been given was already cleared and was finished Monday night.

So that is being now rehabbed and maintained by the city and the local

Businesses, and then by Saturday, the remainder of the trail should be cleaned, and that'll make a really big difference there.

And then on that trail, we will have on September 27th, I mentioned last time, we moved to Ville, so only one of these posters here, but that's a free trail, best experience for hiking, mountain biking, or running the 20-mile loop around Strongsville, as well as other

Three Mile and Ten Mile events.

It's not a race, it's just that they take with a guide and a sweeper as well as shuttle service and a lot of celebration at the Rivanna River Company and celebrate the trail nothing.

It is very fun.

Good.

You're doing good.

We're getting a lot of, we have,

Yes, it is.

We just finished that.

And if you volunteer to be a leader or a speaker, if you've got a lot of knowledge of our running-around loop, you get to be dancing the shirts and stuff.

Can I ask?

I hate that I'm about to ask this.

I saw the chyron on Jerry's today.

There was a fire again at the encampment.

Do we know anything about that?

It's under investigation at the moment.

That happened after we had finished the work.

So we moved the last, the remaining three residents off of the trail, right?

It got dark.

And that happened at about, I guess 11 o'clock at night, so a couple of, two and a half hours after we completed the work.

So it's unclear, it is under arson investigations.

I'm clear how that started.

It was not an accident or a problem or anything.

So, yeah.

Did any of your legal observers come deal with anything?

Poyntzer, Ann Wernherner, or was it mostly amicable?

Yeah, there were many, many legal observers.

And while they were with us all, they communicated with us any concerns.

And I haven't seen any reports yet.

But yeah, so I think that to go smoothly, we did.

We were

very inundated with activists all day long.

It would just after those points, no arrests were made related to closing the encampment.

There was one individual who was arrested because they had multiple outstanding warrants that had nothing to do with the Canton situation.

All the pull-outs they had made warrants.

And which is underlined at this point that as far as the fire goes, that occurred after nobody was staying or living there by that point.

And I believe the fire department explicitly said they were investigating as intentional arson.

Kind of a screwing everybody out kind of thing.

Well, we'll see what that location says.

We have it set up for less than that, kind of give more flow space.

We weren't anticipating really high numbers from the start, but we have the building space and that's going to make it a really developing, enticing place.

There are

Two meals a day, serve their showers and bathrooms, meal space for eating and meeting with case managers.

And it's pretty close to a bus line.

But yeah.

They're free to go and come as they please.

I believe there is an evening recommended curfew.

When I was there today and then on our first day we kind of traded some river team to support them because we really had anticipated prioritizing the river residents because of the flood season so they were at the highest risk and we wanted to make sure they got outside first.

So we had kind of

The operations have a couple folks at a time go over to the shelter and then call the shelter and see how they were doing because things take takes a while.

They come with a lot of items and personal items and they need to be processed.

So that extends the case.

But when they open the doors in IM there were already 12 people waiting to come in that were from mostly downtown area and around the urban rain.

So that was a surprise.

But most of

I ran into some of the folks we had held transition and they had come and gone to their job for the day and came back for dinner.

I met two of our folks who had connected during the assessment and relocation process and we reconnected with the caseworkers from the Home to Hope program we have for previously incarcerated folks who were experiencing homelessness.

and they reconnected during our process with their case manager and I met them today and they got picked up by their case manager and went to the meeting.

So that's the goal is one, maybe it's a stepping stone into transitional housing, that affirmative supportive housing and do so by really getting that on our first time connected to that case management to support needed.

So again,

But I'm sure someone in Canada did not know that.

There's windows that you can have a 72 hour window before you're kind of, if we're at capacity, it will have to be more prioritized.

I'm sure they'll adjust and refine over time.

I don't know if they'll follow this process.

I do know that Pacham, which had been Charlottesville's low-wear shelter, but just in the fall and winter, you couldn't leave at night and return.

ultimately the data in response to issues of individuals going out and coming back intoxicated and creating issues.

So I would be surprised if something like that already in place or emergent as a practice in terms of in the evening, if you leave, you may not be able to return, but we'll see.

And

Beyond that, I would say, not nearly as exciting, but potentially of regional interest is Charlottesville has started exploring, bringing our trash and recycling collection in-house with the city taking care of that service.

We, essentially one monopoly operator for us, which continually escalating costs.

And so our preliminary analysis is that if we bring that service in-house,

our city workers are collecting the trash and recycling and we purchase our own trucks will actually save money within five years.

And we're looking at that.

And, you know, when I was looking at it, I've seen there are other areas of Virginia where they brought it into in-house service and regionally different localities partner on utilizing that service to save them money versus going out to kind of one monopoly operator.

So

I don't know if any other localities have issues with escalating costs, but potentially something to think about long-term modeling.

They do it in Williamsburg, Virginia, Tidewater area.

They have that kind of regional service.

So something maybe if we trust regionally, but we're optimistic we'll be able to save money just within five years.

But that is, that's it for me.

I'd be surprised if it's economical for the rest of us.

Yeah, I feel like there's a lot of challenges, but there's something to think about.

Well, one of the items that came up in our award meeting last night, we had some good citizen input from folks that are fine to organize and regarding valuing.

And in discussion after that meeting, one of our supervisors had said, well,

You know, could we potentially petition the PPC recognizing that not all localities are involved with ValleyLink, but you know, there's a kind of a generous content with the concept of ValleyLink and would other commissioners, would the commissioners be interested in entertaining the idea of writing a letter in support of that county, and I assume Louisa County would be interested in that as well too.

essentially objecting the fact that this is being trusted on us with very little of input and with great disillusionment by the folks in Havana and Louisa from that standpoint, as is pretty much the case in every locality that's involved.

I think at this point in time now, every locality has essentially made a formula for opposing

and the Valley Bank transmission alliance.

So it's an uphill battle, but if commissioners would be interested in entertaining that, maybe we can bring that up at the next meeting for that purpose and certainly would be welcome.

We have sort of the triple whammy having recently passed the NASCA, and we still have some folks that are discontented with NASCA.

has made their application to, instead of using a water-cooled system, to use an air-cooled system.

Ultimately, I think that's a good thing.

But for the opponents of the plant, they view that as potentially increasing the noise levels, although we did, as part of the process, within the conditions that required noise levels to be a certain limit.

And their engineering studies suggest that they're not going to have any problems meeting that, and the conditions already exist.

I think they've kind of worked those numbers out.

But that would be a great reduction in the water usage that the plant would use.

But we have that as something that's galvanizing the community as well too.

And then with all the kind of connect the dots idea there by citizens and sort of national outcry around data centers, water supervisors voted to

Well, two things.

One, we established a moratorium for the time being.

Previously, we had put in an SUP in the industrial zones for any data center approvals.

And now we have asked the planning commission to examine whether we should ban data centers in its entirety and or look at accessory uses for data centers.

I am Brushfield, but I have a data center,

UVA Hospital, and I have a data center, and so I have an accessory to use or a need for that.

And so that'll be going to our planning commission.

I personally would argue that we have a process in which, you know, petitioners should be able to do that, that the SUP protects us in a pretty significant way.

I don't particularly have a problem with that yet to the planning commission, but I think it should be broader than just for accessory use.

Certainly would not be in favor of a hyperscale situation, but

That's kind of one of the trouble whammies that's created a lot of angst in the community.

And so we as board of supervisors are navigating those areas there.

Anything you'd like to add?

I think it's amazing that the same people that was opposed to solar and said they wanted gas plants now say they don't want the gas plant.

They want the solar back.

And they're trying to join the Valley Link and the Tenasca thing.

Well, if we built more power plants, you wouldn't need to forfeit electricity from the Ohio Valley.

It's just, I don't get to join them thinking.

And the data center one, it's a bit deeper than what it seems on the surface.

I don't think we're going to ban them.

Hyperscale maybe, smaller ones, like

EBA satellite facility.

You know, I asked the question, how big is 2.5?

One commenter put it, which I thought was a good way to look at it, is what is the consumption usage of the data center, right?

That's the way it works.

Is it going to consume five gigawatts?

Is it going to consume half a gigawatt?

Or megawatt, I should say.

And the water was the same way.

The same people that complained about the water don't use the water for the power plant.

We want air cooling.

Now they got air cooling and they're complaining about that.

It was a pause on it until the planning permission could go and evaluate what we would allow, what we wouldn't allow, what we wouldn't.

and I think it'll come back that everything except for the hyperscale large campuses that you need a data center to go with the medical center or like the engine, there's data center in there.

I would also be remiss to not note that we have the pleasure of having Mr. Blount there and we passed our legislative priorities along the lines there.

and first of all continue to add to our legislative priorities, not necessarily the TPDC's aspect of limiting the ability for utilities to increase rates.

Of course, we're greatly affected by AQUA in Virginia, which has increased rates at the last four years.

They've put in petitions for an increase of almost 60%.

So we've asked them to continue to lobby the House to not do that.

from that perspective.

And one of the items that I kind of mentioned that I tied to data centers is something for, you know, other commissioners think about is that there is now going to be a, you know, more of a BYOE, bring your own energy to the resources.

And so how does that look in terms of the impact now that you're saying, well, it's not on the citizens as far as rate gain,

But you still have other impacts whether that's what are you saying.

So and then we get asked, TJPDC, in its legislative priorities to go ahead and end the discussions around energy, which is supposed to be pretty significant discussions coming session, that they consider how things such as a value link, which really does not

O'Brien.

So, you know, how is that done?

Green.

Thank you.

Johnson, Kevin?

Okay.

We're a small, small group.

We have, we had our first public hearing on our draft revised zoning ordinances, along with the Berkeley group for consultants.

It was much

Much more well received than we feared it would be, so that was all pretty good news.

As a follow up to that, I and Cameron Lanahan, who's the supervisor of our guard district in Afton, are going to hold a town hall along with the head of our planning and zoning department on a proposed overlay district along the 151 corridor.

So that's happening in a couple of weeks.

and otherwise, most of the other things we have are all things that are really in the future, but there's a lot of things going on.

We're gonna finalize our bond financing on the Larkin property, the thousand acres that we have on both sides of 29 by the middle school and high school and south of Oak Ridge State.

And we're gonna have a couple, we're gonna have

A strategic plan dealing with that expressly and we're also going to have a retreat on things that have water infrastructure at the head of the of the program along with the Nelson County Service Authority.

Sure, a few things.

So we

This was not even really part of the meeting, but it's relevant, and it's particularly relevant because we were going to talk about Free Bridge.

We just got the last piece of the puzzle in place to complete the Old Mill Trail extension.

So this is the trail network that begins directly across Brompton Free Bridge from where the encampment was.

So from that gas station, or really, all the way down south, currently stops when it goes under the interstate.

But we had all the Easts set for a little bit to get all the way to the town of Glenmore, or the community of Glenmore, where we already own a section of trail that no one can enter unless they're a Glenmore resident.

And so we're going to be able to connect these connections to the trail, because we got the grant from the last living Easts to realize the needs of events that we have from Bonicello.

And I'm very excited we're going to have a really robust trail network that everyone can now use much more easily because they

Crossover, Freebridge, without the encampment disturbing them.

Such is a word.

That's exciting for me because that's also entirely true.

The thing that we spent most of our time on during our last meeting was a discussion of a pretty contentious piece of Enfil and Crozet, kind of a wonky piece of land with weird topography and situated curiously in between two HOAs and within that

A single family home that had just been sitting on a hill in between the two HOAs, so a half moon shape parcel, and was contentious for all the reasons you might imagine it would be.

And again, was a thing that drove home to our board and to our community, the kind of, we've made the decision for a long time not to expand the development area, but I think only now are we actually making the decision, right?

Things like this is throwing that decision in our face.

This is what that decision looks like.

If you are going to continue being a growing community that does not expand your development area, this is what the decision looks like.

It's having a need for algorithm places like this that are not particularly well designed for it.

So excuse me.

Yeah, don't keep us in suspense, did Justin go away happy or sad?

Justin went away happy.

It was 5-1.

5-1?

Yes, with the resident supervisor voting against.

She also is the supervisor who votes against most things.

I say with affection, but it didn't last.

It did not last.

One side of our growth versus no growth spectrum.

We also approved phase two of our performance agreement and then sent a package with Southwood.

I think most people here are familiar with the Southwood development, but Southwood is a large trailer park that is in my district.

It is historically a black, you know,

and several years ago, now probably over a decade ago, Habitat intervened when it was going to be sold out from under them in order to escalate rents and displace the entire community.

Since then, there's also been, you know, there are trailers, right?

There's failing septics and there's no one who can intervene.

And so there's been a really Herculean effort over the past decade and change to redevelop this entire community into

Not just redeveloping those units and getting people into new permanent housing, but also cross-subsidizing that by building a lot of other apartments, some of which are affordable, most of which are market rate.

So it's going to, in the future, be the single largest development mine time district.

And this, we have finished the first phase.

The first phase helped a lot of the people who are currently in Southwood move into new homes so that the area they were living in can be part of phase two.

So we just approved phase two.

The primary thing that we're agreeing to is basically the rate at which they deliver houses, the information they show us on their nondisplacement statistics.

And with that, they can return this tax increment finance that's used to help finance that work.

So a percentage of their future revenue growth from that,

Percentage of the future incremental tax increase is deducted and paid to them in advance to help finance and subsidize that work.

It is going to continue for quite a while.

This is a really huge pipeline development for Albemarle County and it is exciting to see it hit its next benchmark.

Currently, they have had no involuntary displacements during the entire process and 85% of residents in the phases that have been redeveloped

have opted to stay.

So 15% voluntarily said, you know what?

I like living in a trailer.

I don't want to live in this.

There have been no people who were not offered on it.

It's cool.

But it hasn't been a decade since the idea to purchase the development happened.

That was for Charlottesville's Carlton

and then their first one was Sunrise in Charlottesville, which was completed.

And then Southwood followed that, which was much larger than Sunrise.

I think it's a little over a decade.

And I was about to be like, oh, you know, I was about to eat my words because I was not here for that.

It was the first project I got briefed on when I first got to work there.

18 to January of 18.

So it was already in motion.

I know we discussed it a year ago.

Performance agreements and everything.

I think most of the rezonings and performance agreements were in 17 and then 19.

Right.

I imagine all the state legislative changes around manufactured housing and so on.

I'm not sure actually if it'll be very... Because a lot of what the state's doing is looking, like, correct me if I'm wrong other people, but I know there's a lot of interest in ROVA and rights of first refusal for manufacturing and home developments and how that works.

That would have potentially affected how the sale went down, but I think there's a lot of luck in how the sale went down and also a lot of people not wanting to be seen as a universal

people who are more comfortable being a universal villain.

If they had been the owners, then we might not have had the situation at all because they might have just said at the time there wouldn't have been, I don't think there was a road for them.

That land, if you're a habitat fan, is the first of its kind in the country.

So when we did our visit to Chapel Hill, it was interesting because there's a habitat community not doing anti-displacement, but they're doing big development.

And they took a lot of cues from the program that this habitat here locally did for that big project.

So there's nothing on this scale or this design.

And part of it is that the residents got to design the community.

So it's not just that they got new homes and they got out of a bad living situation.

They also get together with the phases and with those people and say, how do you want this to look?

And there's, it's a community design model.

So the people living there actually said where their amenities are going to be and how the buildings are going to look and how things are laid out.

So it's pretty cool model.

We did finally also do our first developer incentive.

We've had a developer incentive thing on the books for a while, which is,

to give, to help meet our affordable housing guidelines or guardrails, whatever the standard is that you could call it, but it's a 30 year tax incentive to help that, to help meet that is the, what's the new name of the, it was, no, the community, oh, oh, sorry.

The Tainon, which is a current,

Place, it's being renovated, it was purchased, and then this allowed them to, the tax incentive kind of, they got to know that they would have that first, then they got the approvals they needed to not just renovate but add units there, so it's finally got a developer incentive.

We started our legislative session, we were doing the one cent sales tax, so we got updated on all the legals, what you can and can't do as board members and entities yesterday.

We had a retreat, our board number retreat, just I guess it was the middle of August, Mike is an ENTJ and I am an INTJ, and we're starting to care about our hiring frames, we did that as part of our retreat.

At the end of it we started a big budget push that started to talk about in Albemarle how to really think of budgets for two and three years at a time not just whatever budget you're in and then CIP and then starting to already rent for our next strategic plan because we're about a year away from needing to get started because we're coming into the latter years of our current strategic plan.

We're already about a digit twice.

Mike, I'm sorry, our police chief retired, his 30-year service career.

The whole thing about Sean was that he started in Albemarle as a patrol officer, made it all the way to chief after 25 years.

And that's just rare, I think, these days.

Some, in anything, led a lot of public service.

So we wish him the best as he retires and then goes into his next phase.

And he's a young guy.

I mean, he's what?

He's afraid of younger than everybody here except Mike and Mike.

But Jen, in reference to the joke I told, that was actually a true story.

Because he did tell me how old he was.

And then I guess the other thing I would mention is that at our legislative session last night,

I have been, as you know, last year on a push about transportation funding in the state of Virginia.

And our board agreed to send a letter to the governor taking a new tack, but not to say we need more funding, but we need an effort, a convening session to understand why we don't have as much.

And we know how it's going to continue, but there needs to be a convening that needs to happen to scale what's going to work for the next 30, 50 years.

I took that to also VACO's Transportation Steering Committee and it was well received there for both Roanoke.

The next two coming in VACO presidents were very vocal.

So I think VACO is going to get on board with some stuff relative to transportation funding.

But after the letter the board approved me to sign and send to the governor as the chair, I'm going to share that with this body because I'm sending last year's TJPDC letter along with our letter.

and then want to share both of those with our local legislators who may come for our meeting when we meet with them in a couple months, but to see if this body would be interested in doing something similar to last year.

This isn't a request of money.

This is going to be a request for effort or a calling of something to figure out how we're going to get, because otherwise, you know, I did a little bit more research.

The Jaylark study back in 2021, they put $558 million into the transportation budget.

and look how far it got.

It didn't go anywhere.

I mean, it got absorbed quickly because that was all pre-COVID and we know what's happened since then.

So it's not just, no budget request is going to get this done.

I'm really interested in that.

Was that like, are you envisioning like a work group?

I was calling on the governor to convene people to

to say you need to bring together the leaders of the General Assembly, your transportation department, you, localities need to be involved and figure out, we all know why revenue is declining.

We all know why costs are increasing.

We all know the importance of roads in Virginia.

And, you know, if the $558 million infusion got us nowhere, but maybe a year or two, then what's going to happen if we continue to just let this happen?

So a little different tack than just asking for money to see where it goes.

Well, I mean, I'm thinking about it, you know, I'm going to mention it because our board asked.

and Russian, and that would be the extent that if the commissioners would be interested in asking the TJPDC staff to make a recommendation one way or another, I can see where it would be potential of a conflict, but also something that ultimately you also probably have to run through your own boards as well too.

So the timing may just not allow it, but it was brought up, it was a question that I think

Staff thinks it's worth their energy and time, the topic being a letter of support.

Yes, definitely, composing better.

Well, I think not a potential option.

Of course, we haven't done that.

We've done that and sent it to the governor as well.

So we've done all those things.

Brave men, brave heart.

Steve was able to get an answer.

Oh, about the foster square foot.

That's correct.

If you want to be in therapy, yeah.

So, calendar year 26 square foot costs 21.29 square foot.

Forgot that.

It's very competitive, yeah.

And she also shared some information that I think is probably best by email.

Just kind of quickly looking up in response to your question about the methodology.

It's very, very good.

Thank you for those updates.