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Planning District Commission Meeting   11/6/2025

Attachments
  • 0 Agenda 11.6.2025.pdf
  • 3a Thomas Jefferson Planning District Commission Audit Report - FY25.pdf
  • 3b ii FY26 September Profit & Loss Prior Year Comparison.pdf
  • 3b i Staff Memo - FY26 Q1 Financial Report.pdf
  • 4a TJPDC Draft Minutes 2025-1002.pdf
  • 4b i Financial Dashboard September FY26.pdf
  • 4b ii FY26 September Profit & Loss.pdf
  • 4b iii FY26 September Balance Sheet.pdf
  • 4b iv Accrued Revenue September FY26.pdf
  • 4c DHCD - Thomas Jefferson PDC Contract FY2026.pdf
  • 5a ii TJPDC Financial Management Policy Amendment DRAFT 2025-10-22.pdf
  • 5a i TJPDC Financial Management Policy Amendment DRAFT 2025-10-22 - redline.pdf
  • 5b Regional Water Supply Planning Grant Application.pdf
  • 5c 2025 Reg Priorities Worksheet.pdf
  • 6a ii 1 Regional Transit Partnership MOU - Fully Executed 6.10.2021.pdf
  • 6a ii 2 RTP MOU Amendment - Final.pdf
  • 6a iii CARTA Memorandum of Understanding - Final.pdf
  • 6a i Letter Requesting RTP Dissolution - Final.pdf
  • 6b RTP and McKeel Resolution.11.6.25.pdf
  • 7a ED Report November 2025.pdf
  • Full Commission Meeting Packet - 11.6.2025.pdf
    • SPEAKER_01
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      A little bit.
    • SPEAKER_10
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      I will explain.
    • SPEAKER_04
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      All right, folks.
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      Welcome.
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      I'm going to call everybody to order.
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      And Ruth.
    • SPEAKER_01
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      Nick Galloway.
    • SPEAKER_04
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      Present.
    • SPEAKER_01
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      Mike Pruitt.
    • SPEAKER_03
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      Present.
    • SPEAKER_01
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      Tony O'Brien.
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      Keith Smith.
    • SPEAKER_03
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      Here.
    • SPEAKER_01
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      Tim Goolsby.
    • SPEAKER_03
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      Here.
    • SPEAKER_01
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      James Higgins.
    • SPEAKER_03
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      Present.
    • SPEAKER_01
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      Tommy Barlow.
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      Here.
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      Manning Woodward, Jesse Rutherford, Ernie Reed, Michael Payne, Phil d'Oronzio.
    • SPEAKER_04
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      So it looks like we're going to have to allow Manning to come in for electronic participation.
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      So if you don't mind telling me where you're at and why you can't make it today, and then we'll call you in.
    • Manning WoodwardMember, Planning District Commission
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      I'm at home in Louisa.
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      I had an afternoon doctor's appointment in Fredericksburg, so I wasn't able to get back in time to make it to Charlottesville.
    • SPEAKER_15
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      Thank you, sir.
    • SPEAKER_04
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      Can I get a second to that most passionate motion?
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      I did that for you, Mayor.
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      Oh, thank you.
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      All in favor say aye.
    • Mike PruittMember, Planning District Commission
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      Aye.
    • SPEAKER_04
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      Manning, I'm going to make this worse for you.
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      I went and measured all the urinals and there's one of them that's a foot lower than over here.
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      So I'll let you know where it is when you show up.
    • Manning WoodwardMember, Planning District Commission
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      I will greatly appreciate that.
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      You are a gentleman.
    • SPEAKER_04
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      Always looking out for you.
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      Comments from the public.
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      Anybody online?
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      All righty.
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      Hearing, seeing none, we're on number three from FY 25 annual Bunch of Hyskals audit report.
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      We've got Laura and we've got David Foley back here from Robinson, Farmer Fox.
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      Laura, would you get it off for us?
    • SPEAKER_11
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      Sure.
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      We have David Foley here with us tonight from Robinson, Farmer Fox, and he's going to present in detail the
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      His analysis and his report that was in our packet.
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      I would just like to say there is a management's discussion and analysis at the beginning, starting on page nine of that report, which goes to 14.
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      And if you have any questions in that section of the report, feel free to ask me at the end of this presentation.
    • SPEAKER_08
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      Good evening, everyone.
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      Glad to be here with you all.
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      Again, my name is David Foley and we have completed the audit for the commission for FY 25.
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      So I'm here to present the results of that audit to you all.
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      I did meet with the finance committee earlier this evening and we went through the
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      I'll report in detail, so I'll kind of just hit the highlights for you all here in this meeting.
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      Before I get into the results of the audit, just a brief overview of the audit that we do for the commission.
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      So as part of the financial statement audit, there's really three main pieces of the audit that we do for the commission when we're doing the financial statement audit.
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      One of course is we audit the financial statements to make sure that the commission's financial statements have been prepared in accordance with general accepted accounting principles.
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      So we go through and audit the numbers to make sure that they are recorded appropriately.
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      And then the other two pieces of the audit we do, we do in accordance with government auditing standards.
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      One of which is
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      As part of the audit, we review and gain an understanding of the organization's, the commission's internal controls that it has over its financial reporting.
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      So while we're out doing the audit, in addition to just looking at the numbers themselves, we gain an understanding and we do some tests over the internal controls that the organization, that the commission has over its financial reporting.
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      And then the third main PC audit that we do is the federal compliance piece.
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      So anytime an organization expands over $750,000 in federal grant funds,
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      You're required to undergo what's called the single audit, federal compliance audit, as part of your financial statement.
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      So the OMB provides a compliance supplement that lists the various compliance requirements that the commission has to comply with when it's carrying out and expanding its federal grant programs.
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      So for the major federal grant programs, we go through that compliance checklist to make sure that the commission is complying with those federal grant compliance requirements.
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      So those are the three main pieces of the audit that we do for the commission.
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      So as such included in the audited financial statements before, there are three different reports from us that communicate the results of the audit.
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      The first is towards the front of the report on page six, which is our independent auditors report.
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      And in this report, we did perform an audit on the commission's financial statements.
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      And then the second paragraph of the report is where we issue our opinion on the commission's financial statements.
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      And we had issued an unmodified opinion.
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      on the commission's financial statements, which is the cleanest opinion in order to give on the set of financial statements.
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      Basically unmodified opinion means that the commission's financial statements have been prepared in accordance with generally accepted accounting principles.
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      The other two reports from us are in the back of the report in the compliance section.
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      The first report back there starts on page 70.
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      This is our,
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      A report over the organization's internal controls over its financial reporting.
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      As part of the audit, we noted no significant deficiencies or material weaknesses in the organization's financial reporting.
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      Overall, we feel like the commission has strong internal controls over its financial reporting.
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      Just an example, as part of the audit,
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      We had no audit adjustments that we needed to propose as part of our audit, meaning that the commission's financials agents were already prepared in accordance with general acceptance accounting principles before we even started doing the audit.
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      So I think that speaks to the strength of the finance team and the controls they had in place.
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      You know, it's not too common that you go through an audit and don't have some type of adjustment to propose to make.
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      So again, to go through an audit and not have any adjustments, again, I think speaks to the strength of the finance team.
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      And then the third and final report is two pages over on page 72.
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      This is our report over the Commission's compliance with its major federal grant programs.
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      This report was clean as well.
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      There were no significant deficiencies and material weaknesses over the Commission's compliance with the major federal grant programs.
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      Also, there were no items of non-compliance noted as part of the audit.
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      Again, all three reports were mostly clean, so overall it was a very, very clean audit given to the Commission.
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      That's all I have, but if we happen to answer any questions anyone may have,
    • SPEAKER_04
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      Any questions for David?
    • Ned GallawayMember, Planning District Commission
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      We have a question, but I mean, with all the money that I sent to you, I mean, just a great job.
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      The faith that the jurisdictions have in y'all, but also the place that you were giving us grants and all the dollars and everything, both.
    • SPEAKER_04
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      Any further questions, comments?
    • 00:09:04
      All right, so this is an action item.
    • SPEAKER_15
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      Chair, I move that we accept AB25, fiscal 25, and the financial order report.
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      Appreciation to most probably this people and Ms. Greene.
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      Amen.
    • SPEAKER_04
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      Thank you, Mr. Chairman.
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      First and seconded, all in favor say aye or do we need to roll call on?
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      All right, all in favor, say aye.
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      Aye.
    • 00:09:37
      David, you need to share some personal stuff, right?
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      He's a grandfather.
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      Yes, I did.
    • SPEAKER_08
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      I just wanted to become a grandfather for the first time.
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      Thank you.
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      Thank you.
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      Very exciting.
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      Awesome.
    • SPEAKER_04
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      Welcome to the club.
    • SPEAKER_08
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      Thank you.
    • SPEAKER_04
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      Thank you, David.
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      Thank you.
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      Thank you for having me.
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      All right.
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      Laura, you're going to be
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      Ordon, one of July through September financial report.
    • SPEAKER_11
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      Let me make this one a quick summary, I hope.
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      You do have a SAP memo in your agenda packet for the first quarter of fiscal year 26.
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      It is intended just to give a high level overview of how we are doing against our own internal budget for the agency.
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      for the quarter as well as for the year.
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      And in some reports, I've also compared to the prior fiscal year, the same time period with the profit and loss for the previous fiscal year, which was also included in your packet.
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      So I just wanna reference the net quick assets have increased $24,205 from June of 2025.
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      So the first quarter we had an increase
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      We also have a revenue gain of 32,086 for the first quarter as well.
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      So we in the profit and loss.
    • SPEAKER_13
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      Can I scroll down just a little bit?
    • SPEAKER_11
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      There we go.
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      A little graph here.
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      That shows where we are, revenues, operating expenses and pass-through expenses compared against the annual approved budget, the operating budget.
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      So we are showing 11% against being 25% into the year at revenue, 22% for operating expenses and 11% for pass-through expenses, which can be accounted for on the low side
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      due to significantly low, the body invoicing, sorry, body delays have been incurred for invoicing because we had an amendment, we had quite a few things happening with new money coming in on that grant.
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      So we haven't been getting the invoicing from our partner.
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      to get those quarterly numbers in this report.
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      So that is the significant decrease in both revenue and pass-through expenses there.
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      I wanted to note that.
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      And then on the accrued revenue report for the remaining nine months, we have 195,816 available per month with our 12-month average spending at 161
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      and so that satisfies our monthly outflow of expenses and our expenses for September were $180,142.
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      Anybody have any questions?
    • SPEAKER_04
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      That was pretty quick.
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      Okay.
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      It's just awesome to hear those numbers.
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      We were talking with David, when the new press took on, we're about 30 days from actually shutting our doors, that moved them into the house now.
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      So this is a lot of hard work, a lot of energy.
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      All right.
    • 00:13:38
      Well, that's not an action item.
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      So the consent agenda, do we want to take this as a block?
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      Does anybody want to pull something out to talk a little bit about?
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      Is everybody caught up on the minute?
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      We need to give a breather for that.
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      Or, Mr.
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      Chair, I move we approve the consent agenda as presented.
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      So listen, you just don't want Smith to talk.
    • 00:14:05
      Yeah, I'll get it.
    • 00:14:06
      All right.
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      So I got a person in a second.
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      All in favor?
    • 00:14:08
      Aye.
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      All right.
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      We're now at 7.15, and item number five.
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      I think I'm going to wear a award for moving meetings along with Jeff.
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      I'll throw it up somewhere.
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      Sorry, Ruth.
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      Trying to be respectful for the votes that have to drive up an hour.
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      I'll take your tickets on them right now.
    • 00:14:33
      Sounds like cheap news.
    • SPEAKER_13
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      It's nice to see you.
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      It's enough.
    • SPEAKER_04
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      Mr. Vice Chair, would you?
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      Chair Howard.
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      All right, so new business.
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      So we've got the financial management policy revisions.
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      And Ruth, you're going to tackle a lot of those.
    • SPEAKER_09
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      Thanks, Mr.
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      Chair.
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      As I presented to the Finance Executive Committee earlier this evening before you tonight is a revision to the financial management policy that was brought not so long ago and went into effect July 1 of this fiscal year.
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      We noticed as we were implementing the new financial management policy that
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      O'Brien.
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      So just a couple of key changes were needed.
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      First, the review of payroll was not publicly held out in our financial management policy, and that is a key part of making sure that our
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      controls are effective.
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      It is something that we have done in practice, having to incentivize review, review payroll before it goes out, but it's important to have it in our policy.
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      And then the other thing that was needed in a revision was making sure that
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      The language around electronic payments versus checks was very clear.
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      The way it had been worded made it seem
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      Depending on how you read it, that we were moving to all electronic payments, but we need to have the flexibility as an organization to do either one.
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      So clarifying some of that language.
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      And then a minor change is that we changed the language around who signs checks to more closely reflect what's in the commission's bylaws.
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      So that's a pretty minor change, but I think they are
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      necessary to maintain the health of the organization over a period of years.
    • SPEAKER_03
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      Any questions?
    • SPEAKER_09
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      Yes.
    • SPEAKER_03
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      Ruth, not to be indelicate, but could I inquire as to the resolution of the inappropriately cashed check on past month?
    • SPEAKER_09
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      You may inquire.
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      I think Laura would do a better job of explaining what happened there though.
    • SPEAKER_11
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      I can.
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      So the resolution is that, do you want me to go back to the beginning?
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      Is everybody aware of what had happened?
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      Okay, I'll start with that then.
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      We wrote a check out of the main operating account and mailed it to a vendor of ours.
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      It was mailed out in May of 2025.
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      The vendor reached out to us sometime in July, I believe, and let us know that they had not received it.
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      Upon looking, it had cleared the bank.
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      When we asked them to recheck their records, they identified which bank they had, that they had not received it.
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      Further research upon my return in September, because I was out for a period of time, I realized that the endorsement was not to their bank.
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      So we reached out immediately to Wells Fargo to stop payment, or not stop payment, payment had already been made, it was about $2,500.
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      to a third party unknown to anybody.
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      So we filed a fraud claim with Wells Fargo.
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      About a month later, they were telling us that no fraud claim had been initiated.
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      They needed to start another one.
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      They reached out to the cashing bank and asked for those funds to be returned.
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      They returned about half of that amount of money or a little more than that.
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      And then I got a letter from Wells Fargo saying that's as far as they were going to go in their research.
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      I pushed back, called again, said, we're not happy with that answer.
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      How do we get the rest of our funds?
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      They said, well, you didn't file timely.
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      You didn't file a claim timely enough.
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      You really only have 60 days.
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      And I was like, the mail sometimes doesn't even arrive for 60 days.
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      Come on.
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      So anyway, I was told on my last phone call that
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      Wells Fargo reached back out to that other bank.
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      The bank said the funds were available to collect from, I guess, the party that cashed the check and that they would be sending those funds to Wells Fargo.
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      I do not have those funds in our bank account yet.
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      That is the where we sit with that specific incident.
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 00:19:23
      What about charges against persons since they know the account?
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:19:28
      We would have to file a claim with the police if we want to pursue that.
    • 00:19:34
      I'm sorry?
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:19:35
      How many hours?
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:19:37
      In this already?
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      Probably a day, at least.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:19:47
      That sounds a little like...
    • SPEAKER_11
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      Probably is, but considering some of these phone calls aren't at least two or three hours sometimes, but... Research time.
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      Yeah.
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      And we also, we do have an insurance policy.
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      We could also go that route and let them try to recapture this if we wanted to, but there's a, I think it was a $500 deductible or $250 deductible, which didn't make much sense to me on a $1,100 claim.
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      to even go that route.
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      But I'm hopeful that we will get the remaining funds.
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      The question is, do we want to initiate any type of legal action to go against the party that, I don't know that, we would not have that information.
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      We could not get that information from the bank, but if the police were to pursue on our behalf that way, they could.
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      But then it becomes an issue of the commission, do we pursue?
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      We closed the old account so if no no checks can be cleared on that account at any point and open a new account with a new account number so no it couldn't get fraudulently used for that purpose.
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      We are also another step is to
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      And I've already made the request on all of our checking accounts for our statements to be mailed to us with copies of the images front and back of the check.
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      So we can actually see not only that we have signed on our two signature lines, but who has been endorsing the checks on the back.
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      So that should happen in our next cycle of statements we get from the bank.
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      So hopefully a little bit closer eyes on maybe, I mean, but that does offer requires
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      Us to know who should be depositing those checks, you know, and what their endorsement would be.
    • SPEAKER_14
    • 00:21:48
      $2,500 to the original vendor, right?
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:21:53
      We did, we did front that up to pay them back as well.
    • 00:21:56
      Yeah.
    • 00:21:56
      So right now we're just trying to recoup that.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 00:22:00
      Yep.
    • 00:22:02
      We're unlikely to know the identity of the felons and deliver some commission justice.
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 00:22:08
      And lastly, file the police report.
    • 00:22:12
      Very, very, very quickly, you know, there's a depilatory account connected to where this check landed.
    • 00:22:18
      There's a name on that account, so it wouldn't be too hard.
    • SPEAKER_14
    • 00:22:23
      You would think that Wells Fargo itself would.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:22:26
      I was going to say, you know, I mean, not to go into the weeds of how long we should go on this topic, but every time I've had this happen, they keep
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      Hall, I threatened to leave the bank.
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 00:22:42
      Yeah, I was told.
    • 00:22:45
      Yeah.
    • 00:22:45
      Yeah.
    • 00:22:47
      Yeah.
    • 00:22:49
      Yeah.
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      Yeah.
    • Mike PruittMember, Planning District Commission
    • 00:22:50
      Did we file a CFPB complaint?
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      We should file a CFPB complaint.
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      I know they barely exist.
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      But I they still exist.
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      It's just they're slowly removing all their staff.
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      I don't know.
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      Every time I've ever had a position where a bank just like ghosts me or ignores me or gives me an answer I don't like, frankly, file a CFPB complaint, wait 30 days, and they will have some person with a title senior vice president come and kowtow in an email and give me what I want.
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      It's, I mean, that sounds really blunt, but it's surprisingly effective historically back when the CFPB existed.
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      I don't know if it'll still work, but it's like a, it's a five minute process.
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 00:23:37
      But do they even have the statutory authority as us being a quasi, well not actually we're a quasi-governmental agency, they're not obligated for taxes.
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      I don't know.
    • 00:23:47
      But you know, it's, I mean- It's still a five minute thing, but it's like they still have to stick to it.
    • 00:23:54
      It's part of their page.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:23:58
      I'll look into that.
    • 00:24:01
      Did that answer your question completely?
    • 00:24:08
      Thank you.
    • Mike PruittMember, Planning District Commission
    • 00:24:09
      Sorry, I didn't mean to assign to work.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:24:14
      Like I said, hopefully we will get a resolution that fully, you know, refunds our funding, whether we wanted to pursue, you know, any legal action, I guess is really the question at this point.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:24:31
      Say about this.
    • 00:24:33
      Do you have an opinion on that?
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:24:34
      She's on.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:24:35
      Christine, what is your position on legal actions?
    • Christine JacobsExecutive Director
    • 00:24:43
      My position was to make the TJPDC whole for its losses.
    • 00:24:47
      I was concerned about investing too much staff time into doing anything further.
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      But we are happy to take your direction if you would like us to go down that path.
    • Ned GallawayMember, Planning District Commission
    • 00:24:57
      Well, it seemed to me you just followed the plan.
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      I have an arrangement with this particular vendor that they are going to be picking up their checks from now on.
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:25:27
      They do not want us to mail them.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:25:30
      Let it just go by with, let it check it.
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 00:25:33
      I mean, I guess there's at some level there's, did we cross every I and dot every T here?
    • Ned GallawayMember, Planning District Commission
    • 00:25:39
      I don't care.
    • 00:25:40
      I don't care.
    • 00:25:41
      I already deal with it.
    • 00:25:42
      Somebody has to check that shouldn't have.
    • 00:25:43
      We should file it.
    • 00:25:45
      That's my opinion.
    • 00:25:46
      Well, yeah, I mean, it's concurrent.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:25:50
      And I'm sure this individual has done more than once.
    • Ned GallawayMember, Planning District Commission
    • 00:25:54
      I mean, unless you're telling me that you guys nailed the check to the person,
    • SPEAKER_11
    • 00:26:03
      And the check was not changed in any way.
    • 00:26:07
      It wasn't made payable to another party.
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 00:26:10
      They just, you know, which of course is straight up.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:26:18
      Okay.
    • 00:26:19
      Well, look at that.
    • SPEAKER_09
    • 00:26:22
      So our financial management policy.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:26:25
      Very happy.
    • SPEAKER_09
    • 00:26:28
      The financial management policy revisions are largely around our internal control process.
    • 00:26:34
      And that is the bulk of our financial management policy.
    • 00:26:38
      It does cover cost principles and governing standards as well.
    • 00:26:42
      But this type of making sure that the vendor who receives the funds is the right vendor is outside of our financial management policy.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:26:54
      So we're back on that topic, which is an action item.
    • SPEAKER_09
    • 00:26:58
      Yes.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:26:59
      So any further questions on that?
    • 00:27:03
      So would you like to add any more?
    • 00:27:05
      OK, great.
    • 00:27:07
      So we're looking for a first and a second.
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 00:27:10
      Chair, I recommend we approve the financial management policy as revised and presented.
    • 00:27:19
      Second.
    • 00:27:20
      Second.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:27:21
      All right.
    • 00:27:22
      All in favor, say aye.
    • 00:27:23
      Aye.
    • 00:27:25
      Just to add a little bit to it, maybe you guys can report back to us formally next month on the Resolutions.
    • 00:27:32
      Sure, happy to.
    • 00:27:37
      Ruth, you're up next again, Digital Water Supply Planning Grant application.
    • SPEAKER_09
    • 00:27:41
      Yes, so as you will recall,
    • 00:27:45
      Virginia DEQ awarded us a grant back in the spring for regional water supply planning.
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      We are the kind of convener of several localities.
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      For the water supply plan in our area, it does not include the County of Nelson, but it does include Buckingham.
    • 00:28:19
      It's loosely based on
    • 00:28:25
      Watersheds.
    • 00:28:26
      But the purpose is to work towards this goal of having a regional water supply plan.
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      So we applied for the funds.
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      It was about $8,000 in the spring.
    • 00:28:38
      We were awarded that.
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      We spent it down over the course of the summer.
    • 00:28:41
      For fiscal year 26, they just announced the grant application in the fall.
    • 00:28:51
      We applied and we actually found out today that we have been awarded about $9,000 to continue the planning.
    • 00:28:58
      As you can imagine, working with several localities to do a water supply plan is going to cost more than $9,000 over the course of a year.
    • 00:29:09
      So it is being supplemented with local funds and we are working on
    • 00:29:14
      Figuring out what sort of budget would be needed and if there would be a local ask for additional funds to cover say a consultant or just additional work on this plan.
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      The hope is that the local plans will have a lot of information that's needed to go into the regional plan that it can just be compiled by the TJPDC and then we won't need a consultant.
    • 00:29:39
      So we are asking you tonight to accept the grant award
    • 00:29:45
      And what was the second part, David?
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:29:51
      Authorize the executive director to take all actions necessary.
    • 00:29:54
      Typical language we include in our grant resolutions for you.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:29:58
      Do you want us to make a motion to get money?
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:30:01
      Yes.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:30:03
      Anybody want to do that?
    • 00:30:03
      All moved.
    • 00:30:04
      All second.
    • 00:30:05
      All right, we got a first, a second to get money.
    • 00:30:09
      All in favor?
    • 00:30:15
      Thank you for our next community block development block.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:30:20
      Yes, Mr. Chairman.
    • 00:30:21
      This is an item that comes to you every year.
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      The Department of Housing and Community Development, which administers the federal CDBG community development block grant program, asked planning district commissions to identify regional priorities for anticipated CDBG applications as part of their community improvement grant program.
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      We have reached out to local government staff for notice of any anticipated applications for 25 or even into early 26 and having not heard of any by any of our localities at this point, if you approve the motion we have before you, then we would plan to do as we typically have done in the past and submit
    • 00:31:09
      and three priority areas of economic development, infrastructure and housing on the form that was included in your packet.
    • 00:31:17
      And we would send that off to DHCD.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:31:24
      Any questions for Dave?
    • 00:31:30
      I shall move.
    • 00:31:33
      I second.
    • 00:31:34
      There you go.
    • 00:31:34
      Thank you.
    • 00:31:35
      All in favor?
    • 00:31:37
      Aye.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:31:39
      Thank you, Manny.
    • 00:31:43
      Old business now.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 00:31:46
      David's doing it.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:31:47
      David, we've got an A1, A2, A3.
    • 00:31:49
      They look like they're all action items.
    • 00:31:52
      Do you want to group them into one?
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:31:54
      Yeah, actually, Mr. Chairman, if I may,
    • 00:31:58
      6A, 1, 2, and 3 would like to, if possible, take those three together, and then 6B would be a separate action.
    • 00:32:06
      And just for some background, I guess it's your last meeting in October, Taylor, our transportation director, was here and briefed you on the intent.
    • 00:32:17
      to dissolve the existing regional transit partnership in order to make way for the newly established Charlottesville-Albemarle Regional Transit Authority, known as CARTA, which would then serve as the primary planning unit for transit.
    • 00:32:34
      You are presented here this evening, or actually then, you were presented with two items which are recurring here this evening.
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      There was a draft dissolution letter and there was also a new proposed MOU that would be between TJPDC, City of Charlottesville, and Albemarle County.
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      This latter two being the initial CARTA members as it relates to CARTA administration and support.
    • 00:33:01
      So with that background, what is before you tonight in that first group under 6A are three things.
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      There is that official disillusioned letter, once again, that when it is signed by commission upon your approval by the chair,
    • 00:33:18
      and the executive director would be sent to all existing voting members for them to agree to dissolve the RTP through an amendment to the original MOU.
    • 00:33:30
      That is Charlottesville, Albemarle, TJPDC, the MPO, Jaunt and UVA.
    • 00:33:37
      The second item there under little number two is an amendment to the original existing MOU that established the regional transit partnership itself because that MOU says that any amendments to it have to be agreed to by all parties.
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      So that would accompany the letter that was discussed in item number one.
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      And then the third, little number three, as I'd mentioned, there is a draft memorandum of understanding that would detail the roles of TJPDC, Albemarle County, and Charlottesville regarding CARTA, which also, upon your approval, then would be signed and forwarded to the respective governing board, Charlottesville and Albemarle, for their approval.
    • 00:34:24
      And I believe we are already working to get those on agendas here in the near future.
    • 00:34:31
      I passed out at your place.
    • 00:34:35
      There was a small change in the wording from the MOU that was included in the packet that was sent to you.
    • 00:34:41
      So we have a revised hard copy.
    • 00:34:43
      The changes on the first page is under the funding heading.
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      And it's really just a clarifying change to make it clear that both localities are funding 50% of the cost for the services that would be provided by TJPDC.
    • 00:35:00
      Nothing substantive of all.
    • 00:35:03
      So that, in essence, is what we're asking you to do tonight.
    • 00:35:08
      And we'll have to try to answer some questions if you have any questions.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:35:14
      Any opposition to doing this is all one action.
    • Mike PruittMember, Planning District Commission
    • 00:35:19
      I just have a very quick thing.
    • 00:35:21
      The way the MOU is drafted, do we need to execute an amendment if we are in a position
    • 00:35:32
      I think we have fun.
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      And then like if the city and the county developed some kind of, or the General Assembly developed some kind of funding next to them, and CARTA has its own capital, and they want to pay their own bills to TJPDC, I think we need to amend the MOU.
    • 00:35:49
      That's a problem for a few years from now.
    • 00:35:53
      I just want to make sure I'm correct.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:35:54
      Which could be done.
    • 00:35:55
      I don't see that kind of language that says any changes as MOU would have to be agreed upon by all parties, which is what I had referenced in the visiting MOU.
    • 00:36:03
      So it could either take place by action of the commission, I guess, or if that language could be added to this draft MOU, I think we could do that fairly easily.
    • Mike PruittMember, Planning District Commission
    • 00:36:13
      Yeah.
    • 00:36:15
      I don't want to flop the MOU.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:36:20
      And a thing to think about.
    • 00:36:24
      Anything else you want to add?
    • 00:36:26
      No?
    • 00:36:26
      I will stop till I indicate it.
    • 00:36:30
      Motion?
    • 00:36:31
      Any other questions, comments, or concerns?
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 00:36:35
      I just want to take a motion.
    • 00:36:36
      Yes, sir.
    • 00:36:37
      I move that we approve item 6A, Roman numerals 1, 2, and 3, with the proviso that the scriveners are spelling my name in one.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:36:46
      It's corrected.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:36:51
      And Mr.
    • 00:36:52
      Chair, if I may just maybe expand upon that a little bit so that folks will know exactly what each one of these documents.
    • 00:37:04
      For the first one, you'd be authorizing the chair and the executive director to sign the letter, the formally requesting dissolution.
    • 00:37:11
      The second authorizes the chair to sign the MOU amendment.
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      And then the third authorizes the executive director to sign the CARTA MOU.
    • 00:37:24
      That's just expanding it fine.
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 00:37:26
      Just expanding what?
    • 00:37:27
      And I guess to clarify, my motion was yes, but correct the spelling of my name before you sign a course.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:37:35
      Yes, sir.
    • 00:37:36
      So, can I get a second to that?
    • 00:37:39
      Say a second.
    • 00:37:41
      Oh, I heard two come across.
    • 00:37:44
      Did we get into second ones?
    • Mike PruittMember, Planning District Commission
    • 00:37:46
      Yes.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:37:46
      Okay.
    • 00:37:47
      All in favor, say aye.
    • 00:37:48
      Aye.
    • 00:37:48
      Aye.
    • 00:37:49
      All right.
    • 00:37:50
      The next one is,
    • 00:37:52
      Exciting to me because I think the work of Diane vote.
    • 00:37:55
      So David, if you're on point?
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:37:56
      Yes, just very quickly.
    • 00:37:58
      There's also a draft resolution in your packet before you that commends the work of the RTP for providing a strong
    • 00:38:07
      Forum for Communication and Coordination between transit providers and really laying the foundation for a stronger and more coordinated transit plan and system in the region.
    • 00:38:18
      And as you mentioned, Mr.
    • 00:38:20
      Chair, it also commends Diana McKeel for her vision and her strong leadership.
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      She served as the first and the only chair of the RPT during its, I guess, what will be eight years.
    • 00:38:35
      So should you approve that resolution, then it would be presented to what will be a joint meeting of the RTP and CARTA coming up later on this month.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:38:49
      And anybody who'd like to join them more than welcome?
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:38:52
      Yes, indeed.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:38:53
      Anything else you want to add to that, David?
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:38:57
      That's all, Mr.
    • 00:38:58
      Chair.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:38:58
      All right, any questions?
    • 00:39:01
      So if we could get a motion for
    • 00:39:03
      All right, dear friend, Diane, I appreciate it.
    • 00:39:06
      So moved.
    • 00:39:07
      Thank you.
    • 00:39:07
      Second.
    • 00:39:08
      OK, first and second, all in favor.
    • 00:39:11
      Aye.
    • 00:39:12
      All right, David, you're rottening the roll and you're doing the director's report.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:39:18
      And in doing the director's report, I'm going to simply say that Christine's report is in your packet.
    • 00:39:23
      I think with the number of highlights about what we've been up to since we last met.
    • 00:39:30
      And the only other thing that I was going to point out, you've already mentioned Mr.
    • 00:39:33
      Chair, as well as just that November 18th joint meeting, and certainly want to make sure that the commissioners know that they are welcome to attend.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:39:44
      Christine, while you're online, do you want to add anything to that?
    • Christine JacobsExecutive Director
    • 00:39:49
      Yeah, the only thing that I would add is that we've heard back from the owner on our property and the contractor that they're working with to do the tenant improvements and the building renovations will be starting January 5th.
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      rather than in mid-December.
    • 00:40:04
      And so staff will be beginning January 6th working remotely for a six-week period while they come in.
    • 00:40:11
      It was a lot easier to arrange those improvements with us just vacating versus trying to work around all the schedules, which means we'll be working on all of the logistics to make sure that all of our meetings in January through mid-February at a minimum are held electronically.
    • 00:40:27
      So I'd like to recommend that this board
    • 00:40:29
      Meet in person in December so that you can meet virtually in February.
    • 00:40:34
      We do not have a January meeting.
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      And since we can't do two consecutive meetings, we would like to hold the December in person to allow for that.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:40:44
      Developing December 4th.
    • 00:40:50
      Any questions for Christine or David?
    • 00:40:54
      Do we need to say yes, are we going to meet December 4th?
    • 00:40:57
      I don't know if we need this.
    • 00:41:00
      Do we need to take an action on that, Christine?
    • Christine JacobsExecutive Director
    • 00:41:02
      You do not.
    • 00:41:03
      We don't.
    • 00:41:03
      We don't have any.
    • 00:41:04
      It's just that we're going to be holding it in person as usual and then we will post the virtual meeting for February.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:41:15
      All right.
    • 00:41:16
      So it looks like no questions for Christine and David.
    • 00:41:20
      We'll move into the roundtables and politics is good to talk about here in elections.
    • 00:41:26
      You want to talk a little bit about that?
    • 00:41:27
      That's okay.
    • 00:41:29
      Jesse, I'm going to start with you.
    • 00:41:30
      What's going on in Nelson County?
    • 00:41:33
      Wow.
    • SPEAKER_16
    • 00:41:38
      Well, it's, uh, you know, things are happening in the DSS building, uh, how mariachi got destroyed, kind of destroyed.
    • 00:41:47
      I mean, destroyed that we can build breaking ground on that very soon.
    • 00:41:49
      Yeah.
    • 00:41:50
      Part of the social services building, which is pretty exciting.
    • 00:41:53
      Yeah.
    • 00:41:54
      And I was going to let you say that you won.
    • 00:41:57
      I won.
    • 00:41:59
      There you go.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:42:00
      And how did you do?
    • SPEAKER_16
    • 00:42:02
      How many votes did you get?
    • 00:42:03
      I won by 12%, about 150.
    • 00:42:06
      How'd you do, Jesse?
    • 00:42:08
      150 votes.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:42:09
      We had multiple things happen on my election day.
    • 00:42:12
      Not near as consequential in terms of earnings.
    • 00:42:16
      It didn't cost me money.
    • 00:42:18
      But there was two writing campaigns, one on the school board side and one on a
    • 00:42:30
      and then the North District is going to be Cameron and Philanahan.
    • 00:42:36
      And then we have an entire, basically three new school board members, Stacy and two Joes.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:42:46
      How many are on the board?
    • 00:42:48
      Five.
    • 00:42:49
      Five.
    • 00:42:49
      You already have new people.
    • 00:42:51
      You already have new people.
    • 00:43:00
      30, 40.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 00:43:02
      I don't know exactly, but.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:43:04
      Yeah, it's like 30 or 40.
    • 00:43:07
      Actually at this point, yes.
    • 00:43:08
      Yeah, we would actually take children.
    • 00:43:10
      So yeah, our first student population dropped again.
    • 00:43:12
      So that's not good.
    • 00:43:15
      This relates to zoning that's still underway.
    • 00:43:20
      I was the only dissenting opinion of six acre lot minimum sizes in A1.
    • 00:43:30
      Maybe I'll convert early, working on it.
    • 00:43:33
      We have got a ways to go.
    • 00:43:35
      That's right.
    • 00:43:35
      Now we have something to push up against.
    • 00:43:37
      There he is.
    • 00:43:38
      So that's going to monopolize a lot of my time now.
    • 00:43:41
      And beyond that, I don't have much more to support.
    • 00:43:45
      I'm just trying to think.
    • 00:43:47
      You got it from your grant.
    • SPEAKER_16
    • 00:43:48
      No, pretty much the same.
    • 00:43:50
      We approved the same grant for our regional water supply that you all did.
    • 00:43:54
      Is there a reason why we're in the difference?
    • 00:43:56
      It's because we're in a different market.
    • 00:43:58
      We're in the James and everybody else is in the James.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:44:03
      Well, there's actually different, there's several different James, they call them regional planning units.
    • 00:44:09
      So there are three, I think maybe three different RPUs in this part of the country or the James.
    • 00:44:16
      So, you know, they were trying to do them by river basin, but yeah.
    • SPEAKER_16
    • 00:44:28
      and for Transit of Illinois.
    • 00:44:35
      I can't think of another thing, except that just for the record, I had an opponent and I got more votes than Jesse.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:44:43
      I got more votes for SGA president in 2012.
    • SPEAKER_16
    • 00:44:57
      But we're signed, we're both signed up for four more years.
    • Mike PruittMember, Planning District Commission
    • 00:45:04
      I can't.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 00:45:05
      Jesse said to me, Ernie, it's yours as long as you want.
    • 00:45:08
      By the way, Ernie had some great signs.
    • 00:45:14
      Yeah, it is.
    • 00:45:15
      I didn't share a t-shirt there.
    • 00:45:17
      A great t-shirt.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:45:18
      Alright, we're going to move on, folks.
    • 00:45:22
      I'm going to start off with Louisa Shannon.
    • SPEAKER_13
    • 00:45:26
      All of our board members and the school board, we got the same board, everybody went back.
    • 00:45:37
      Wayne Grace, I'm not supposed to be on the 96th boat, but the other one posed, mine was
    • 00:45:54
      We got everybody back for another four years, so we're going to keep on trucking on Fluvanna.
    • Manning WoodwardMember, Planning District Commission
    • 00:46:02
      Man, he might have a...
    • 00:46:06
      He's being modest as always.
    • 00:46:08
      He won by a landslide.
    • 00:46:10
      And yes, same seven board members, four of them were up for reelection.
    • 00:46:19
      Everybody got back.
    • 00:46:21
      So we're happy about that.
    • 00:46:23
      We can keep on rolling along.
    • 00:46:25
      I did want to share with y'all.
    • 00:46:27
      I know I'd mentioned a while back about Buckingham Branch owns Virginia Scenic Railway.
    • 00:46:36
      They've been running their excursions out of Stanton.
    • 00:46:40
      They will continue to do that, but they are going to run excursions starting with Santa train out of Louisa right after Thanksgiving.
    • 00:46:49
      And I don't know how many trains they have, but it's a pile of them.
    • 00:46:53
      It's three and four.
    • 00:46:55
      I think a few days even have five of them running in one day.
    • 00:46:59
      And they have sold out almost all of those.
    • 00:47:05
      The first group they put up before they added more, they sold out within about five or six days.
    • 00:47:13
      So anyway, we're really excited about that.
    • 00:47:15
      That's going to bring a lot of people into the town of Louisa out of the Louisa Depot.
    • 00:47:20
      So other than that, that's about anything exciting that I know going on.
    • 00:47:26
      Thank you.
    • Mike PruittMember, Planning District Commission
    • 00:47:28
      Can I ask y'all a question about your local election?
    • 00:47:30
      You mentioned at the top Duane's race.
    • 00:47:33
      I know it's closer and I didn't think he had that tied in district.
    • 00:47:37
      And I also know that race
    • 00:47:40
      The biggest issue in it was a fairly nonpartisan one.
    • 00:47:43
      You had point as pro data center and you had as opponent as being kind of anti.
    • 00:47:48
      Did that matter?
    • 00:47:49
      Do you think that's why it was close?
    • 00:47:51
      Or do you think it was just a DVR?
    • SPEAKER_13
    • 00:47:55
      Well, certainly they were part of it.
    • 00:47:56
      The data centers, you know, everybody thinks that all the perception is that you couldn't have those.
    • 00:48:06
      We're going to continue and get the whole, we'll continue to flood the county.
    • 00:48:10
      We pretty much did want to do it in the bag.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 00:48:16
      Three is probably plenty.
    • 00:48:18
      It's just $10,000,000 over here.
    • SPEAKER_13
    • 00:48:20
      Yeah, we got, that's kind of worth it.
    • 00:48:23
      One we got to turn it out was one that AWS has some private land on.
    • 00:48:35
      I think the drawback of that was it was around
    • 00:48:39
      Repp around one of our reservoirs that feeds the town of Mount Louisa.
    • 00:48:45
      Plus, it was near residential, so it got a lot of kickback.
    • 00:48:51
      But that was, it was touted as number three.
    • 00:48:56
      This was number three when they counted us off.
    • 00:49:00
      It wasn't, we had had number three.
    • 00:49:04
      This would have been number four.
    • 00:49:06
      And it got withdrawn.
    • 00:49:09
      And I think, just like what you just said, I think we got enough.
    • 00:49:16
      We got what we intended to do.
    • 00:49:18
      And I think at some point in the future, if we need something else, I think we could probably find somebody to come in.
    • 00:49:26
      But I think we got all we need right now.
    • 00:49:29
      And I don't anticipate any additional ones.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 00:49:33
      Isn't the industrial part that you guys sold going to be bought as part of Equinox?
    • 00:49:38
      Isn't that all day, Senator?
    • SPEAKER_13
    • 00:49:41
      Number three.
    • 00:49:42
      Number three was born by ethical, which is everything we can understand.
    • 00:49:49
      It's out of the line.
    • 00:49:51
      There are some developed where it has a tolls loop system, so you have all that water use and that kind of stuff.
    • 00:49:59
      And when we checked around the country, they seemed to have a really good reputation.
    • 00:50:07
      What
    • 00:50:08
      Well, how did it happen?
    • 00:50:11
      It didn't fall off.
    • 00:50:13
      It doesn't fall off in my district, which I voted against it in third place.
    • 00:50:18
      But then I inherited it.
    • 00:50:19
      It kind of grew into my district.
    • 00:50:22
      And what people don't understand is the majority of the money going into it was state and federal funds.
    • 00:50:31
      And it was there.
    • 00:50:33
      Well, I let it go somewhere else, so we took it.
    • 00:50:37
      But we were able to have economic, the director called me, said he had potential problems, and I've been getting rid of it.
    • 00:50:49
      Number one, you're going to have industry, which involves noise, dust, mainly if you have normal industrial uses, plus traffic on a secondary road.
    • 00:51:02
      There's a prospect of a disaster.
    • 00:51:06
      Got rid of those issues.
    • 00:51:08
      The traffic is going to be built.
    • 00:51:12
      It's going to be nothing in comparison.
    • 00:51:15
      And then what you end up with is something that looks like a college campus.
    • 00:51:20
      So, and then I think the topic on the cake was it was like making me gain over what we had needed.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 00:51:32
      So.
    • 00:51:35
      Well, the industrial parks have got more than 100 acres, right?
    • 00:51:39
      There's only one data center going into it?
    • SPEAKER_13
    • 00:51:44
      It's a complex of data centers.
    • 00:51:47
      Yes.
    • 00:51:48
      I mean, the ones, the ones that north line is next and the ones that are going to be on the street, it's like 25 buildings in this operation.
    • 00:52:00
      There's 700 in the South Acres.
    • 00:52:11
      Anyway, I'm glad I'm getting rid of that pencil though.
    • 00:52:16
      I'm just trying to recommend this.
    • 00:52:18
      I don't get ya.
    • 00:52:22
      They gotta put up with me on that bullshit.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:52:27
      James, bring it down.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 00:52:30
      Very briefly, last month, a delegation from the county traveled up to New York City.
    • 00:52:35
      They met with the credit rating agencies.
    • 00:52:40
      Both Moody's and Standard & Poor's gave Greene a AA rating, which was most welcome.
    • 00:52:47
      It's my understanding that even now, Greene is marketing its utility revenue bonds.
    • 00:52:55
      I don't have an account with a broker like Fidelity, so I can't really check what's happening.
    • 00:53:02
      And also,
    • 00:53:04
      In the spirit of when Albemarle County sneezes, Greene gets pneumonia.
    • 00:53:09
      I might ask following approval of the deal with AstraZeneca, my colleagues in Albemarle, are there plans to extend Boulders Road to meet Watts Passage Road on the ground of the campus at Rivanna Station?
    • 00:53:30
      Thanks, I make you go, hmm.
    • Ned GallawayMember, Planning District Commission
    • 00:53:33
      You ready for me to answer that?
    • 00:53:35
      It loops around back to $20,000.
    • 00:53:38
      We bought a piece of property years ago.
    • 00:53:40
      So the road, the planned road, as it goes up into, will basically continue and then loop back to $20,000 further north of the fair entrance.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 00:53:52
      Further north, say, near the location of the closed Korean restaurant?
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:53:58
      Yeah.
    • Ned GallawayMember, Planning District Commission
    • 00:54:00
      It's the old
    • 00:54:02
      Oh, what the hell used to be there, it used to be us.
    • 00:54:05
      That's not where the site he cast was.
    • 00:54:07
      There was another, I'm forgetting the name of the site.
    • 00:54:12
      But the way the property is zoning, the back portion of the property is a rural area.
    • 00:54:21
      The front half of the property, when you're thinking half north, south is development area.
    • 00:54:28
      So we're preserving the back half of this rural area, it won't be developed though.
    • 00:54:31
      There won't be any roads coming through that go back through the rural area.
    • 00:54:35
      But if you turn basically, if you turn into where you turn into the property now, it'll go up and you would swoop around left.
    • 00:54:44
      There'll be a bridge that will build over a stream.
    • 00:54:47
      And then the property, it'll reconnect with 29.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 00:54:51
      I want 29 north of Boulders, but short of the Emerson campus.
    • Ned GallawayMember, Planning District Commission
    • 00:54:56
      Yeah, I'm just forgetting the name.
    • 00:54:58
      There's another section up there now.
    • 00:54:59
      I'm just forgetting the name of the road where it's a wearable.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 00:55:04
      All right.
    • 00:55:04
      Well, that's encouraging.
    • 00:55:07
      I worked at Rivanna Station, and whenever there was a closure of that campus due to a water main break or to an afternoon heavy snowfall, it took a lengthy amount of time for everybody to exit that campus.
    • 00:55:22
      It was a tremendous tie-up of janitors
    • Ned GallawayMember, Planning District Commission
    • 00:55:25
      and connected with 20 knowing.
    • 00:55:28
      Prior to this announcement, we had the engineering done and the road plan.
    • 00:55:34
      We had got a grant from the Virginia Economic Development and that grant was to help with just the road.
    • 00:55:42
      It wasn't to complete the load, but to get the first pieces open to get the road further than where it is.
    • 00:55:48
      But now with AstraZeneca coming on, then that announcement is going to accelerate the need to get the road.
    • 00:55:56
      But that many new employees come in.
    • 00:55:58
      And then, of course, the truck traveler, because they'll be, they'll be, you know, moving the products in and out so that they're going to need.
    • 00:56:08
      So by the time AstraZeneca opens, that road will likely be completed.
    • 00:56:14
      Which was our big announcement.
    • 00:56:15
      AstraZeneca, their initial $4 billion, and then they announced an expansion by the time we even did the announcement.
    • 00:56:21
      There's two manufacturing facilities that will be up there, 600 jobs.
    • 00:56:26
      I thought it was Goochland and one, where else?
    • 00:56:29
      Well, Goochland, I forget the company.
    • 00:56:31
      Eli Lilly.
    • 00:56:31
      Eli Lilly and Burke also rolled out as part of getting the three big places in Virginia.
    • 00:56:38
      But we had, you know, the initial one is one type of facility that will be a weight loss, and the drug is a weight loss product.
    • 00:56:48
      The second facility is going to be a cancer drug that they're developing and going to manufacture there.
    • 00:56:52
      So they'll actually be two separate facilities
    • 00:56:57
      And what's the projected income?
    • 00:57:06
      Salaries are all six figures, they're saying.
    • 00:57:13
      So that was a big deal.
    • 00:57:15
      Great for us in terms of, you know, we've been pushing to try to get diversification of the tax hit for real estate.
    • 00:57:22
      So getting a commercial enterprise like this in there will certainly help that effort
    • 00:57:31
      What have they got?
    • 00:57:32
      50 acres, I think, now of the expansion.
    • 00:57:35
      So there's still other properties, still more acreage available for further development on that side.
    • 00:57:40
      And then hopefully this will stimulate the Emerson property in the North Fork side as well as get some things along with other types of stuff that comes around.
    • 00:57:50
      This was not even the pad site that we expected to do initially.
    • Mike PruittMember, Planning District Commission
    • 00:58:05
      Bell, it kicks our time in my head.
    • Ned GallawayMember, Planning District Commission
    • 00:58:10
      So that's good.
    • 00:58:12
      And we approved our comp plan.
    • 00:58:15
      So that's the other big thing are we get a comp plan and rewrite.
    • 00:58:18
      So AC 44 is now approved.
    • 00:58:21
      And in our county, I'm going back for it.
    • 00:58:25
      I didn't have a comment.
    • 00:58:26
      So that was not real.
    • 00:58:28
      You know, it was free for me.
    • 00:58:29
      The
    • 00:58:31
      But we will have two brand new supervisors, both Jim Andrews and Diane McKeel.
    • 00:58:37
      We're retiring.
    • 00:58:37
      They did not re-opt.
    • 00:58:39
      Tal Duncan will be the new board of supervisors member for Jack Jewett.
    • 00:58:42
      She won a primary and contested primary back in June and was unopposed to the general.
    • 00:58:47
      And then Fred Missel, who's the current chair of our planning commission, will be the new representative from Sandy Miller.
    • 00:58:53
      He did defeat an opponent yesterday in our school board.
    • 00:58:57
      In the Rye District, we had a contested race.
    • 00:59:01
      The person that was appointed upon the death of the prior school board member, she did not win the election, so Jim Dolanbeck will be a new member of the school board in Rye, and then Bob Geard will be representing Sandra Miller.
    • 00:59:17
      He was on post.
    • 00:59:19
      And which one am I forgetting?
    • 00:59:22
      Sandra Miller, Rye, oh, oh, Jewett is returning to school.
    • 00:59:25
      I remember those representing.
    • 00:59:26
      So we've got some new people participating.
    • 00:59:30
      It'll be interesting.
    • 00:59:31
      We've had a lot of veterans on Albemarle for a long time.
    • 00:59:34
      So it's going to be a different make-up for sure.
    • Mike PruittMember, Planning District Commission
    • 00:59:37
      I also, I know it's a little gauche to talk about parties, right?
    • 00:59:41
      But I think it's interesting.
    • 00:59:43
      Mr. Delenbeck is going to be now the only elected official in Albemarle County who has not been endorsed by the Democratic Party.
    • 00:59:51
      It's just an interesting thing to observe.
    • 00:59:53
      And I think school board is where we're
    • Ned GallawayMember, Planning District Commission
    • 00:59:55
      He was also not endorsed by the Republican Party.
    • Mike PruittMember, Planning District Commission
    • 01:00:00
      Yes, I'm not trying to claim anything that he's not.
    • Ned GallawayMember, Planning District Commission
    • 01:00:04
      He was verbally endorsed by the Republican Party on election day, but he was not sampled.
    • 01:00:12
      Well, you all figure out that strategy.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:00:16
      Honestly, there's not much more to add.
    • Mike PruittMember, Planning District Commission
    • 01:00:21
      We've had our comprehensive plan.
    • 01:00:22
      Yeah, I did say that.
    • Ned GallawayMember, Planning District Commission
    • 01:00:24
      We paused data steps.
    • 01:00:26
      That's true.
    • 01:00:26
      We were going down a road to consider that our board was split on how we fellowship data centers.
    • 01:00:32
      And with the ask presenting committee just kind of sucking the oxygen out, we decided to just pause where we were at with the data center conversation.
    • Mike PruittMember, Planning District Commission
    • 01:00:40
      It's worth mentioning, you know, and that and I were on, I don't think it's a pro-con.
    • 01:00:46
      It's more of a skeptical optimist.
    • 01:00:49
      That's how I describe it on data centers, data centers, technical data center optimists.
    • 01:00:53
      We were on off the side of it, but I think a,
    • 01:00:56
      And interesting kind of when staff looked at this and determined, you know, there's, there's no room for budge.
    • 01:01:03
      The way they talk about it, it's, Oh, we realize that you don't have access to the fidelity of data from these developers that would be needed to answer some questions and on the scientific side to be able to guess what's up.
    • 01:01:18
      Just there is not a level of data transparency there, which I already admire these.
    • 01:01:23
      Yeah.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:01:26
      Anything else?
    • 01:01:27
      That's all I got.
    • 01:01:28
      Tim, do you want to talk about your exciting count there?
    • SPEAKER_14
    • 01:01:35
      Yeah, on the political side of it, we have a new member coming on to take from Marie Dore's place with Midway District.
    • 01:01:43
      Right now, the Standardville District with Steve Valaino and Mr.
    • 01:01:47
      Snow is, I think he's got 12 votes ahead of him at this point.
    • 01:01:52
      So they're still doing the final count.
    • 01:01:55
      counting the right hands and absentee ballots or something.
    • 01:01:59
      It should have finalized by Tuesday, they said.
    • 01:02:03
      So that's where that's going right now.
    • 01:02:07
      So I think we got our next meeting next Thursday.
    • 01:02:15
      We're not doing Tuesday because of Veterans Day.
    • 01:02:17
      So we have our next meeting next Thursday and we're gonna finalize all the water empowerment things and get all that finally going.
    • 01:02:26
      Check on them bond ratings and the final is that is the biggest thing.
    • Mike PruittMember, Planning District Commission
    • 01:02:32
      Did General's bond rating come in in time for it to matter for your water impalement project?
    • 01:02:37
      I thought that was all already settled.
    • SPEAKER_14
    • 01:02:39
      Well, we had already voted on it.
    • 01:02:41
      And then we went for the bonds and see where it went from there.
    • 01:02:44
      And it actually came in a lot better than what we anticipated.
    • Mike PruittMember, Planning District Commission
    • 01:02:47
      OK, so you're still saving some money from it.
    • 01:02:50
      Yeah.
    • 01:02:50
      Good.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:02:52
      Anything else, sir?
    • 01:02:53
      That's about it.
    • 01:02:55
      Phil?
    • 01:02:55
      All right.
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 01:02:59
      Let's see.
    • 01:03:00
      I saw on my calendar the Planning Commission from CIP for a work session with some other fishes already filling in.
    • 01:03:13
      The development code has gone through its revisions.
    • 01:03:17
      It looks like we actually have a settlement in the opening for the lawsuit surrounding our development code.
    • 01:03:26
      Or not, check back in the main week.
    • 01:03:30
      So there's that.
    • 01:03:33
      We have a, the city has identified and in principle got a deal for the old, just blew out of my head, but I holiday drive a building that is now going to function as a road barrier shelter.
    • 01:03:54
      We are talking about spending $5 or $6 million for that.
    • 01:04:00
      And what else?
    • 01:04:03
      And per the election, everything was absolutely uninteresting for the city.
    • 01:04:09
      None of the people saw it in a while.
    • 01:04:11
      Well, yeah, so there was more.
    • 01:04:14
      Well, even the Supreme Court was not excited because it was clear who was going to win the vacancy, and that's the side of our head, and she won.
    • 01:04:24
      That's all votes.
    • 01:04:26
      And that makes well the votes.
    • 01:04:27
      Exactly.
    • 01:04:27
      There was nothing exciting there.
    • 01:04:30
      And that's about what I got.
    • 01:04:34
      Tony.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:04:35
      All right.
    • 01:04:35
      Home town.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 01:04:37
      Home county.
    • 01:04:38
      Let's see.
    • 01:04:40
      I'm cracking down to 3.5% people who did not vote for me.
    • 01:04:45
      And the 101 people or 8 people that did.
    • 01:04:48
      Right.
    • 01:04:48
      They're in real trouble.
    • 01:04:50
      But that was less than they were
    • Mike PruittMember, Planning District Commission
    • 01:04:55
      That's what I did on election day.
    • 01:04:57
      I went and compared myself to every other candidate.
    • 01:04:59
      I was like, did I do better 98% versus 97%?
    • 01:05:02
      I did a write-in against Chris.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 01:05:06
      Actually, my shirt and hat was just from the audience.
    • 01:05:13
      But they were very close.
    • 01:05:15
      Mike and Ann and Jim were like, Mike and Gretchen were a couple of votes.
    • 01:05:19
      Sorry to write-ins.
    • 01:05:22
      As far as the elections go, they're really interesting races.
    • 01:05:25
      All three board supervisors were unopposed, so that was no change there on our board.
    • 01:05:31
      We had a couple of school board races, and I would say that the general alignment in the school board has now shifted towards more pro-school, less, I don't want to say right, but less of the whole issues around
    • 01:05:50
      Culture, I guess that's the best way to put it.
    • 01:05:53
      And one race is, I don't know if they're going to do a recount or not.
    • 01:05:57
      It's within 25 votes.
    • 01:05:59
      And that's Sarah Johnson against Mr. Rittenhouse.
    • 01:06:05
      Rittenhouse has been on the school board for a number of years.
    • 01:06:08
      His wife's the treasurer now.
    • 01:06:10
      It's a well-known name.
    • 01:06:12
      And Sarah Johnson was kind of a newcomer on in a very conservative district.
    • 01:06:17
      She ran a very good race and it was down to the one on that one.
    • 01:06:20
      So we'll see how that turns out.
    • 01:06:21
      The other race that was of interest, but was pretty clear how it was going to turn out was for the Commissioner of Revenue.
    • 01:06:46
      The name Don Renard, who has been a prolific visitor to our board meetings to complain, he and his wife to complain about lack of transparency and lack of fairness and in particular how land use and the assessment values are all managed.
    • 01:07:01
      So he lost, I think it was 27%, 73%.
    • 01:07:07
      But it did stimulate the conversation around land use, I think got a little bit more
    • 01:07:14
      A little bit more information out there for the public since I represent the district that has no land use in place and has probably the highest tax values in place.
    • 01:07:25
      And since I fought for that in the past, a little bit more transparency on that, you know, I kind of welcome it, but I also recognize that it's the third round of politics and you're trying to get very light water there.
    • 01:07:38
      But that was probably the more interesting race overall to kind of watch and observe from the outside.
    • 01:07:45
      And then on the sort of normal aspects in the county, we've broken ground on the Amazon Warehouse Center.
    • 01:07:55
      She's going to be on 15 heading towards Palmyra.
    • 01:08:00
      Wawa is finally, finally, finally done.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 01:08:02
      And I know that seems like a drag on forever.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 01:08:05
      And the rest of the land around there is available for development.
    • 01:08:12
      So we expect to see some activity around that.
    • 01:08:15
      And the other big thing that's happening in the planning right now is a Tenaska power plant.
    • 01:08:20
      Tenaska wants to build a power plant.
    • 01:08:22
      It's about a $2 billion investment.
    • 01:08:23
      It's a 1.5 gigawatt plant.
    • 01:08:26
      They want to build it right next to the existing plant that we have in place from Tenaska.
    • 01:08:34
      A lot of community concern, a lot of it based around pollution and a lot of it based around noise levels along with water consumption levels.
    • 01:08:43
      So that's an issue that the county is wrestling with right now and we'll see how it turns out.
    • 01:08:50
      We'll see.
    • 01:08:51
      So that'll come to the board in January, I think.
    • 01:08:54
      They withdrew at the planning commission.
    • 01:08:57
      They just, they delayed just primarily because of the 60-day rule for the planning commission to review stuff and you know, the information that needed to get out.
    • 01:09:07
      Yeah, it's a big thing.
    • 01:09:10
      It was a big thing when it happened the first time and
    • 01:09:13
      You know, there's a lot of folks that are upset about the idea for the, uh, of another PowerPoint there.
    • 01:09:19
      So, but of course a lot of revenue to the county.
    • 01:09:21
      I'm about to say how much is that?
    • 01:09:24
      Probably about 28 cents.
    • 01:09:25
      Yeah.
    • 01:09:26
      Yeah.
    • 01:09:27
      It's significant.
    • 01:09:28
      Yeah.
    • 01:09:29
      It's a $8 million a year minimum.
    • 01:09:31
      So yeah, somewhere in that area.
    • Mike PruittMember, Planning District Commission
    • 01:09:34
      I've had several of my residents ask me to ask you to vote against it.
    • 01:09:39
      Yeah, sure.
    • 01:09:41
      And we border it.
    • 01:09:44
      What I've said is I don't think they care what we tell them to do.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 01:09:48
      Well, I think that, I mean, I think, you know, just objectively the difficult, the difficult part when you look at, you know, energy use and you know that energy use is going to grow, you know, is growing very substantially.
    • 01:10:04
      For me, when you say
    • 01:10:15
      Right.
    • 01:10:16
      But we're not going to get the revenue.
    • 01:10:18
      And if they don't build it in either place, then your energy costs, which are already rising, are going to continue to rise and will be higher and might be subject to brown house.
    • 01:10:28
      You really put yourself in a difficult position.
    • 01:10:30
      I'd love to see fusion.
    • 01:10:32
      I'd love to see nuclear energy, but they're not viable solutions for meeting the current energy needs that are required.
    • 01:10:39
      So that makes it pretty difficult.
    • 01:10:42
      And if we were to
    • 01:10:43
      We tried to do the same thing with solar.
    • 01:10:46
      As you well know, in our county, we basically banned solar.
    • 01:10:50
      It would be about 30,000 acres to cover in solar panels in order to generate the same amount of energy.
    • 01:10:57
      It's a lot more than that, but 180,000, I think, something like that.
    • 01:11:03
      But yeah, that would be very significant.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 01:11:05
      So in that regard that you can get it.
    • 01:11:10
      and have it activated in a time frame, not even remotely close to all the other options out there.
    • 01:11:19
      I mean, yeah, I've installed a lot of solar houses, my dad's house in the realm.
    • 01:11:24
      My dad was a Jimmy Carter era solar guy.
    • 01:11:28
      Remember that already?
    • 01:11:29
      When they had the tax credits for like 50% or whatever it was.
    • 01:11:32
      And so, still got some of those solar panels.
    • 01:11:34
      Yeah, I'm glad you brought them to me probably, but.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:11:37
      I can assure you they do.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 01:11:38
      Yeah, I'm just,
    • 01:11:40
      Us, we as localities and the state and beyond have to recognize you have access to electricity become such a quick feasible, though I'm not going to say I understand the stormwater protection of all this stuff and what that means.
    • 01:11:57
      It is remarkable.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 01:11:58
      I think I was reading an article in Australia, basically energy is now free because they have similar solar power.
    • 01:12:06
      They've got a different land print than you do, but still that's significant.
    • 01:12:13
      As we know, the use of renewables in Europe is much higher than it is here.
    • 01:12:18
      There's just a lot of opportunity.
    • 01:12:20
      California, actually, they have so much solar in place right now, what they call a duck curving version during the day, because they generate more biofilm solar than they actually do.
    • 01:12:31
      You'll see solar panels lined up on the highway.
    • 01:12:34
      You'll see them kind of everywhere.
    • 01:12:35
      Yeah, except for that.
    • 01:12:39
      You don't see any industrial solar panels in Fludanna.
    • SPEAKER_16
    • 01:12:42
      Yeah, there was some question whether the situation in Washington was going to slow down our 90 megawatt solar farm, but it so far it hasn't because they're starting to check the boxes off.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 01:12:57
      To Mr. Weatherford's point, I mean, you know, the energy companies are looking for any kind of energy that they can get right now.
    • 01:13:05
      and to help shore up their grids in different spots and small industrial scale solar is an effective opportunity for them.
    • 01:13:13
      It's kind of where it all lies.
    • 01:13:15
      They're the hard choices there.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:13:18
      Alrighty, I don't really have too much to add on mine.
    • 01:13:21
      Other than I had the opportunity to attend a chairs and mayors meeting and 15 years of being involved in the commission, that was probably
    • 01:13:35
      The most interesting meeting I've ever been in to sit across from every one of your county administrators and actually listen to this radical discussion amongst the administrators.
    • 01:13:46
      It was a very eye-opening experience for me.
    • 01:13:51
      And I can tell you, every one of you have first-class executives running your office, running your own accounts.
    • 01:14:02
      All right, anything else before we wrap up?
    • 01:14:05
      Did I mention I got the most votes in Florida County?
    • 01:14:10
      No, no.
    • 01:14:12
      Tony, how many votes did you get?
    • 01:14:13
      I got like 400.
    • Mike PruittMember, Planning District Commission
    • 01:14:15
      You got most votes?
    • 01:14:18
      You got more votes than any contested election?
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 01:14:20
      That's good.
    • 01:14:21
      No, no, no.
    • 01:14:24
      Any full county election.
    • Mike PruittMember, Planning District Commission
    • 01:14:27
      Oh no, still, I would assume like some of the like the school board races where you had
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 01:14:39
      We had about two-thirds in my district were early votes.
    • 01:14:44
      Good.
    • 01:14:45
      Well, that's a good citizen.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 01:14:46
      Well, that is a good vote that's already done.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 01:14:49
      Yeah.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 01:14:50
      Well, that showed up on election day.
    • 01:14:54
      I did.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:14:58
      Having that office by food line makes a huge difference.
    • 01:15:03
      All right.
    • 01:15:04
      So we've got a few things going on before we finish the talk.
    • 01:15:09
      I will not be here.
    • 01:15:11
      I'll be out in the country.
    • 01:15:13
      I'll be joining remotely, but I will not be here.
    • 01:15:21
      I think we're going to adjourn.
    • 01:15:30
      Have a good evening, everybody.