Planning District Commission Meeting   10/2/2025

Yes.

Supervisor Pruitt.

Supervisor Barlow.

Here.

Supervisor.

And then we'll need a motion to allow.

Oh, and Payne and Doronzio.

Councilor Payne.

Here.

I'll need a motion.

Second.

Thank you.

Paul Bibbs, say aye.

Aye.

Yes, my name is Jesse Rutherford.

I am at my house at 963 P. Vine Lane shipment, Virginia 22971.

My mother-in-law had passed away several days ago, so it's pertinent to me to stay home in this time with my wife best I can.

All right, now this is from the public.

Do we have anybody on the public farm?

No public on.

All right.

So I think we're going to skip right past number two, we don't have any public and go right to presentations.

Thank you, Mr.

Chair.

We have a short PowerPoint presentation on the screen.

But this is the

Just a little background to refresh your memory on the creation of the board, which believe it or not, it's been almost four years since the board was established.

We had seven original members.

And then very shortly after the organization out of the town of Madison,

But more significantly, in the past about 15 months, we have added three additional localities outside of the TJPDC region.

That being Rockingham County that came aboard July 1st a year ago, followed by the little town of Mount Crawford over in Rockingham County on January 1.

And then, in fact, yesterday, Rappahannock County actually had been admitted to be a member of the board that started levying its tax yesterday.

So with the establishment of the board in late 2021, all of the original jurisdictions began levying cigarette taxes, beginning the fall of January.

That's when TJPDC really kicked into high gear and started to work with what is now an estimated 25 to 30 distributors that are collecting the taxes from the retail establishments to which they deliver cigarettes.

We are submitting monthly reports to TJPDC on the number of packs sold and then making remittances of the revenue collected to us.

We are tracking all of their reports, all of the cigarette packs that are sold, the revenue, the deductions from that revenue, and then we're processing the revenue and turning that back around and distributing allocations to all of the member jurisdictions

Minus 2% administrative fee that the state allows for the distributors to withhold and then costs associated with our administration and we do that on a monthly basis.

Next slide, please.

I just want to get into some of the numbers of sales and revenue since we've been able to file those for the close of fiscal year 25.

You can see their gross revenue about $3.3 million in total across the footprint.

Total packed sold was around $8.7 million over the course of 12 months.

The administrative expenses that we have, largely personnel and mileage costs, just over $112,000.

and then we just threw in the July packs sold figures.

It's been a while and I'm not sure if we've reached above 800,000, but over 800,000 packs of cigarettes sold and reported to us during the July.

Let me clarify what I'm telling you, packs sold, we're not tracking the packs that were sold by retailers to consumers.

We're tracking what the distributors actually are delivering for the retail establishment.

So that is the basis of our packs sold.

So when I was here before you six months ago, perhaps, but at least I know a year ago, we were telling you about tax sold and usage being down.

It's going up.

And I think largely we can attribute it to the addition of those three additional members.

When you think about Rockingham County, they came on board in advance of Bucky's opening up.

There was a new sheet that was opening up in the town of Mount Crawford.

And I think we've

over the past four years have always said, you know, anecdotally, if you've got a Sheets or a Wawa, and I guess now a Bucky's, you're probably going to be...

So anyway, about 400,000 more packs in fiscal year 25 than 24, after a pretty significant decline from the previous year.

And then the other thing that I was glad to see and proud of, and will give

Gretchen Thomas, our administrative assistant, does all of the work, keeping track of the reports and punching all the numbers from the past sold, cleaning up with the revenue allocation it's supposed to be, she hands it off to Laura to do her part.

Our administrative expenses were down about 25% in fiscal year 2005 and going forward as well.

You know, more efficiency, maybe, you know, fewer miles traveled as far as compliance, but I think that was significant.

Yeah, we're keeping that administrative costs down to, you know, that's probably what, three and a half percent.

Next slide please.

I think these next four slides really just kind of break down some of these figures by jurisdiction across fiscal year 25 as compared to 24.

You can see the kind of light brown is the 25 figures, and with the exception of a couple of months where the sales were below the same month of the previous year, you can see that generally those numbers normally rise.

Next slide is going to show you by jurisdiction, the 11 jurisdictions, the number of packs sold in total for fiscal year 25.

You look at the blue, the large blue piece on the right and the orange piece

On the bottom, you can see the UVA.

That is Albemarle on the top and Augusta Harmony on the bottom.

So out of the 11 jurisdictions, two jurisdictions are responsible for about half of the sales throughout the footprint.

And then breaking down the other jurisdictions, if you can't see the presentation in the packet, so you should be able to see your

Oh, she made it a little bit bigger.

Next slide, please.

This is switching over to revenues, really the allocation of what the minimum jurisdiction would receive.

You can see, again, the light brown fiscal year 25 in that they're all really above the fiscal year 24 figures.

Again, adding three additional members to the board during 25, well, two during 25, I guess, would help to drive those numbers up.

But you also had an increase, I think, for Augusta County in the start of 24.

They had been at 15 cents per pack.

They increased to 30 cents per pack.

So again, the largest seller doubling their tax rate is also gonna make a difference in driving

driving up the revenue that's collected in the allocation back to the jurisdictions.

And then the following slide, we'll then again just break it down by jurisdiction.

Augusta's piece of the pie there is smaller because of having been 30 cents per PAC in fiscal year 25.

They have now moved to 40 cents, which is the max that can be charged by the counties.

All of the county members and the two town members

are at 40 cents per pack now.

Charlottesville had previously been levying the cigarette tax and they were at 55 cents and the legislation that authorized the counties to start taxing cigarettes did cap the cities that already were taxing at the current rate.

A couple more slides.

I just wanted to update you on some of the activities with the board since we met last.

The board meets on a quarterly basis.

There's two

actually one representative, sorry, from each of the member jurisdictions.

They had an April and July this year.

Back in the spring, they approved a budget for fiscal year 26.

It was close to $3.4 million.

Again, most of that is passed through and saved for the administrative expenses to feature at EMC.

And the process that the board does is that they approve a budget for recommendation.

to the commission.

So that number is incorporated into the budget that we just brought for you for your approval.

Again, the Rappahannock was was added most recently to join the board.

We spent some time at the July meeting kind of having a really extensive view of all of the policies that the board had adopted over the course of its existence.

And the reason we did that is because with the addition of the members and with the

Changing of some representatives to the board.

We had more than half of the individuals that are currently on the board were not part of the DRCDP when it was established 40 years ago.

So that was a good review process.

And then, as I had mentioned, all the county and town members now at the maximum of 40 cents per pack in Charlottesville at the 55 cents.

And then I believe the final slide speaks a little bit to the compliance efforts.

We do have a part-time compliance agent who is out in the field traversing across what's more than 3,900 square miles across these 11 jurisdictions.

And really just kind of on an ongoing basis working to educate and inform the retailers about their obligations to stay in compliance by having properly stamped cigarettes that they

should be receiving from their distributor.

We've got a stamp, it's an orange stamp, it's called a Gools stamp, and it is evidence that the taxes, both the state taxes and the local taxes have been paid on that path of sale rents.

About 250 retailers across that footprint, so that's a lot of folks to try to see

out in the field.

We do have very good compliance out in the field.

And if there is a problem, I can tell you that the compliance agent is very good about working with the retailer, working with the distributor, if necessary, to bring them into compliance so that we do not get into a situation where cigarettes have to be seized.

And we have not had to do that yet since we started the program.

We have had of late

I had to issue a few warnings for late reports.

Our reports and remittances are due on the 10th of the month for the preceding month or to be postmarked by the 10th.

And it seems that we've had some late payments more so.

I mean, it's just a couple of more so than in the past.

We've had particularly those that are using the U.S.

Postal Service to mail their checks.

We've had some wrong hang ups so that we can be able to get those.

We do offer an ACH option.

We have a number of distributors that also send by FedEx or UPS or overnight.

So hopefully for the most part, we're getting things taken care of.

I believe that was the last slide, website there.

If you'd like to go and look, list all the jurisdictions, the tax rates, documents that are related to their quarterly meetings and some other resources there for your viewing.

I'm glad to answer any questions you may have.

Yeah, so that's a great question because we had extensive staff discussions before Greene, you know, requests to the board.

Obviously, the big one was Rockingham when they came on board.

I believe

The town of Mount Crawford only added two retailers and Rappahannock County 567.

So those two, the most recent ones were not a burden.

We have said that should we get additional requests, which I did have an inquiry recently from a small county, that we're really going to have to look at that in terms of the capacity of the compliance agent to be able to cover not only more retailers, but just

you know, distance from home base and whatever the size of the jurisdiction would be, right?

Because we've got a car involved in it.

So the more miles they're passing, we're placing it first.

That is all built into actually the reserve as well.

We have a reserve and then the expenses related to the vehicle are actually expensed on a monthly basis through the jurisdictions.

Great.

Thank you.

Anything else?

Part of the development of that reserve was, should there need to be a second Coastlines officer in vehicle, then there would be money there, right?

So thank you, Ruth, for pulling up the, this is great that you pulled this up, Stephanie, definitely with the good mention.

There in blue are the current jurisdictions.

They're all Blue Ridge.

This is a location tool.

So Ruth has set this up for each of the jurisdictions through GIS.

You can go in, you can enter in an address into the search bar up there, I guess on the left, and it will tell you whether or not that particular location is located within the VRCT region.

That has been quite an exercise, I think, in some cases because Rockingham County has got a number of small towns that are doing their own cigarette tax or not.

And so they are not part of the URC-TV region.

But this has, I think, been a helpful tool.

We could just get the distributors to use it more because then they can really tell, okay, is this in

So you're calling, Christine, is the vehicle replacement building on the reserve team?

Yes, you're answering what we've been wrong.

So how will it report to you?

So we have a

We have a process, it's really a three-step process, so that the first late report or mittens is a written warning.

If it happens a second month in a row, then there is built into the local ordinances a penalty of 10% of the ballots due.

And then if there would be a third consecutive late reports or mittens, then that would be a matter that would

Come before the board, but the recommendation would be that they distribute and be put on probation.

But they're all consecutive.

They're all consecutive, yeah.

So you're resetting if you give them on time.

Is that happening regularly?

Typically, I mean, I think

You know, we've had, we've got one particular distributor that is a challenge.

It seems like we're having to work with on a monthly basis reminders and encouragement and other things.

But they, you know, they'll get a month where everything is on time and then, you know, there'll be a month of business.

It's not, and there's been a couple of others just here and there.

I mean, we've got

Leaving an example of some of the challenges, you know, just on one challenge on the distributor side, there's one distributor where, I mean, they're very good about getting the reports in in the first two or three days, but they have to request a physical check from corporate office, which could take three days, could take five days, could take seven days.

So I think they were one most recently that we were late receiving their check because of that process that they went through, and which we've encouraged them to do to get to the ACH option.

Thank you, April.

You guys could just pass these out.

I've overlooked a little something that you might want in the packet just as an information.

All right.

Well, it's good to see everyone again.

Just wanted to give you a little overview on one of the items that kind of crosses over between the two programs I work with here at the PDC, and that is our park and ride lots.

So I manage our ride share program, which assists commuters, and then our rural transportation program,

is actually what funds the inventory that I'm going to talk about.

So most, as you can imagine, the park and ride lots are in rural areas since that's where commuters are meeting and then coming into.

So it's a really fun intersection between the two things that I get to do.

So we have 20 lots in the TJPDC region, but the Rideshare region actually covers both TJPDC and the Central Shenandoah PDC.

So in total, we have 33 different lots that commuters can meet at and come in either carpool, transit, or vanpool.

As like I said, you would expect a lot of them are in more of the rural localities.

We conduct our inventory quarterly.

So I just did September, and then we'll continue throughout the year.

When I go, this is the sheet that I handed you guys.

This is kind of all of the different things that I'm looking at.

So I'm looking at not only how many cars are there, how many handicap spots are there or occupied, the general condition of the lot, if the signage is still there,

All that kind of different stuff and then noting on this and keeping it as our record.

If I notice anything seems to be out of place with maintenance or anything like that I then reach out to the owner of the lot.

Now in addition to that, funded through also the Rural Transportation Program is a yearly VDOT conditions assessment.

So I usually try to pair this up with the inventory and do it all at once.

Sometimes that works out on timing, sometimes it doesn't.

But this looks more extensively at what type of lighting is in the lot?

Are there drainage problems?

What type of vehicles are parked there?

For example,

some of the lots you may go to may have commercial vehicles parked there or in other jurisdictions there may be buses or things so they really want a much deeper dive annually and then also updated photos each year so

It's kind of a fun project to get to do a little bit more of a deeper dive.

Rideshare markets the lots, so we put out information to our commuters who are going through the Commuter Assistance Programs as to places that they can meet as suggestions.

And then we also have a toolkit that one can use for establishing new lots.

All right, so we'll go through these relatively quickly here, but I just wanted to provide you guys with some information, a little kind of profile for each of the jurisdictions of what lots you have, and then also I thought this information from the American Community, or the, I'm sorry, the On The Map tool from the Census

from 2022 was really interesting to see both the inflow of people coming in for jobs as well as the outflow and then how many people stay within that region both for living and working.

Kind of just supports as you'll see when we go through these why there are more lots in certain areas than others.

Charlottesville just has one lot which is there at Azalea Park.

Go to the next slide.

Albemarle County actually has the most lots and they're kind of spread a lot of different places.

Teal Lane, which is right off of 64, well

The interchange of exit 118, 64, and 29 is probably the most used lot in Albemarle County since it's right there by 64.

You'll notice that's a trend that we will see on a lot of these.

The closer they are to a bigger road, the more utilized they are.

But Albemarle County does also have two lots that are served by transit.

We have the Scottsville lot which is right by the farmers market there before you cross the bridge and that's served by Jaunt.

They have a commuter route that comes up from Buckingham that picks up and drops off at UVA from there and then the Charlottesville Walmart of course is served by Cat.

Real quickly, back to Azalea Park.

We don't have to switch slides.

They are very close to a cat bus stop, but technically not directly served, but we do indicate to folks that that is an option there.

Additionally, the Avon Street extended lot has come online in the last few years and has really ticked up in the number of cars parked there.

I forgot to indicate that one is also served by a cat.

You can go to the next slide.

Fluvanna County, now this is actually one of the counties that we have worked with in the last several years.

I think it was, yes, 2013, to onboard a new lot.

And that was the Lake Monticello there at Jefferson Center.

And it's just outside or right next to the shopping center there.

Pretty well utilized lot.

And then the other one is located off of 250 there at a church.

It's been there several years, I will say.

We have a few at churches.

Those seem to be a little less utilized in the last several years.

Unclear exactly what the reasons are, but I think a lot of them has to do mostly with location.

Next slide.

We have two lots in Greene County.

We have the one at the school system, which is kind of over where the school buses are parked.

That is a lot that is owned and maintained by Greene County and the school board.

And then the Rutgersville Walmart one, this is a classic example of having kind of two different private establishments is through the property owner there at the Walmart.

Louisa County has two and these are pretty well utilized and two of the bigger lots that we have.

Zion Crossroads is the largest one in the TJPDC region.

I think it has about 64 spots in it and then Gum Springs just a little bit further kind of on the tail end of the county there, which we've

Think serves both people coming to Charlottesville and people going to Richmond, which is lovely, has about 25 spots.

And up until about 2013, the Zion Crossroads lot was actually served by Jaunt.

But when the commuter route from Louisa expired, that is no longer the case.

All right, next slide.

Nelson County has four.

This is a split between private and VDOT owned and maintained.

The two routes, 6 and the Roseland, are both VDOT lots.

They average about between 6 and 15 spots at most of those, with the route 6 West being the largest and most heavily used.

Oh, and the bus used to stop at the Lovingston Fire Department, but then they relocated that spot to the Nelson Center because it was a little tricky to get in and out of there with those buses.

It's a very tight turn if you've never been up there.

Next slide.

So just wanted to give you some data on what the lot usage was like both pre-pandemic and post-pandemic.

As you can see from here, the largest lot, the Zion Crossroads one, is the most utilized.

Again, if you looked here and on a map, the ones next to large roads, particularly the interstates, or 29 are the heaviest used.

We did just have a lot

Close for us, and that's at the Forest Lakes Health Systems.

It was a privately owned lot.

They've now built a housing development over there, and there just really isn't the extra space for the cars.

The good news is, is it wasn't a heavily used lot, so that was all right.

On this slide, you'll notice on the very end, and it's in your packet, I'm sorry, it's so small, there's just so many of them, the Pantops lot.

We used to have a lot at the Pantops Shopping Center, but it closed in 2017,

due to new ownership of that private land.

We did have to relocate two van pulls who utilized that particular spot so that was a little bit tricky but we were able to do that.

One of the options we talked about was the Darden Towel Park lot because that is very close to Pantops but unfortunately both Darden Towel and Azalea close at dusk

So those folks were, most of those vanpools were going to Richmond.

So in the winter when they would go to work and both when they would come home, it was dark.

So that didn't work out for them.

One I know for sure has relocated to the Avon Street extended lot.

Next slide.

And then just a more recent snapshot for you.

Lot usage, post pandemic from FY23 to FY25, so through last year.

There really isn't huge drastic changes, I would say.

We definitely saw a dip after the pandemic and some of the lots are, you know, maybe 10, like Zion Crosswood might be 10 cars less, which we think might have to do with the fact that more folks are able to telecommute for work as well.

Next slide.

And then just some quick other information.

The Waynesboro Town Center lot, while obviously not in our jurisdiction, it certainly serves and benefits this area a lot.

The Afton Express bus service stops there.

And there are a lot of folks who ride the Afton Express that work at UVA because they can ride for free.

So we definitely see a huge impact with cars parking there as decreasing cars into this particular area.

That lot is about 94 spaces and on average has about a 95% occupancy rate.

So it is extremely well utilized.

It very much supports what we kind of already knew is that there are a lot of folks traveling over that mountain.

Carpools can also meet there as well, but the Afton Express we know is a huge impact of that.

Some other things to note, we do have a new park and ride lot coming at Crozet at exit 107 coming online in the next year, year and a half.

They are looking to hopefully start construction next year.

That was part of a smart scale project.

So sometimes these lots can be part of a development of that or can be the whole

We've seen some success with lot improvements or lot development kind of tagged on to other transportation projects.

But as you've seen, there are several that are privately owned lots, so you don't have to build anything from scratch necessarily.

We can find spaces throughout and that's definitely something that we could

help any of our member localities look at or do.

And then like I said before, we lost the one lot at the Pantops Shopping Center, which was lovely, but actually not the best centrally located near 64.

So there has been talks in some other projects with VDOT about getting another lot closer to exit 124 for folks to use.

And that's pretty much all for me, but I'm happy to answer any questions.

Yes, so that's from the on the map tool.

So they get that from the census data in the American Communities Survey.

I don't think so.

I ran them separately and selected out.

So if you thought of it as a Charlottesville, Albemarle, I combine the two numbers.

So there's no overlap there.

OK.

I'm asking.

I don't know.

Census, tell me the source and how they look at it.

It's called on the map tool.

Yeah.

If you're taking 31,000 and adding 36 to a whole region, that's a lot.

That would be a lot.

Yeah, I can clarify that for you.

I would expect this might be neither.

That's the output, though.

Well, I mean, you could, but there is an outnumber, so there's part of that 12,000 maybe in Charlottesville would be going in the out.

Yes.

I just love to, I can tweak it around a little bit on the website.

Yeah.

It was a fun tool to play with.

I can send a link out, if that would be helpful.

They use address points for home and work.

The only time there can be a rub is if the work location could have multiple locations, and it might just be using the one headquarters location.

And folks in Nelson may be going further south.

That's certainly an option.

I would be happy to do that.

And this tool does allow you to manipulate variables.

So you can look at it by the labor market.

You can look at it by the distance being traveled.

There's heat maps of where folks are going from that live within.

And then you can, you can do it either by where they work or where they live.

So you can see it in either direction.

I would be happy to.

That was just a really interesting snapshot that paired nicely with understanding why we have the lots where we have them.

Just a final update.

The Park and Ride lot at Pantops was part of a bundle that was approved in round six.

Thank you.

Smart scale and it was an MPO application.

Thank you.

I have trouble locating that.

All right, thank you.

Do we want to do roll call on all our votes today?

All right, so we're going to go into the consent agenda.

Sure.

Okay, and I got seconds.

Hey y'all let me do my job.

Okay, minutes, first and second.

Any changes, edits, omissions?

All righty.

All in favor say aye.

Aye.

Okay, financial report, you're now abstaining.

Let's share.

That sentence is true.

Comments, thoughts, changes?

I didn't hear a second.

We didn't hear a second.

My hearing aids are dead.

You know what I'm saying?

Good.

We got first for Phil.

I need a second.

Sorry.

Tommy, all in favor say aye.

Aye.

One abstention.

Okay.

The reports, annual reports.

I'm Lou Green, definitely financial reports.

Can I get a second?

Tommy's got a second.

All in favor?

Aye.

Look at this.

New business.

Mr. Blount, you are off.

All right.

You have in your packet a letter that was put together, if you will call it your

Discussion that you had at the commission meeting in September, and you asked for a draft letter to be developed to send to the region's legislators requesting that they provide additional state investments in transportation infrastructure.

So that letter is in the packets, trying to really kind of draw some of the existing legislative position statements that are included in the regional legislative program.

Also, I believe some of the discussion doing kind of side by side

Some of the challenges that have been faced with the smart scale process and giving positive results from that.

So we'll talk about that as well.

And then, you know, maybe we'll put additional state investments in infrastructure.

Our plan would be to have you all approve the letter tonight.

Mr. Chairman will sign it.

It will be sent to the nine legislators that represent the localities in this region.

We'd also distribute that to other statewide organizations, VML, VACO, we have a planning district commission, transit and transportation organizations.

And then another step in the process, again, from the discussion that you all had last September, was for us to develop a model or a template letter that could go from the commission to the localities in the region.

Mr.

Chair, I think the letter covers what we've seen for these months, so I move that we sign the amendment to it.

Second.

I'll be able to sign it.

I hope you've been there.

Aye.

If I could make a couple quick comments on that.

I would request that the commissioners of this body begin to meet with good legislators.

Like I appreciate having the template, but each jurisdiction wants to do it themselves, but I feel almost have a little more power.

Just this needs to be something to bring up in your legislative meeting with a little bit of the legislators.

The second thing I'll add, we state the best of Williamsboro NPO and the Charlottesville Albemarle NPO had a joint meeting a few days ago.

That was this week.

and the executive director, so the 15th people at the Santo Augusta range for, what's their PDC?

Central Shenandoah County District.

She suggested that they have interest in their PDC or could likely have interest to send a light letter.

So I believe the plan was to share this template with them, but it's gaining a little bit among them.

So if there were ways to get other PDCs, it would be an interesting angle in.

Well, I mean, I would just like to take a moment to recognize some of Dr. Gallaway's leadership on this issue, something that I don't think I was tracking on, but I guess I hope we brought a first to our board and the board supervisors, but we probably made a priority with this.

So I mean, it's, you go to Vaco or you go to anything where you bring it up, everybody.

It's like, yeah, this is a no-brainer.

It's all trying to get everybody to use what people have avoided.

Was it counselor or supervisor?

Bragg, was it?

She was in at Wayne's term?

I can't remember what jurisdiction she was in.

Like, she had similar comments on something separate.

Thanks, Wayne.

Hey, everyone.

I do not have a formal presentation, but I will come up for the sake of the audio so that folks online can hear.

And I'm not talking behind you.

So this evening, I'm just speaking to the couple items that were included in your packet, specifically about the Regional Transit Partnership, an advisory board that was established in 2017, following a recommendation that came out of the Regional Transit Coordination Study.

The RTP was established as an interim body intended to map out and proceed the creation of a regional transit authority.

Since its formation, we've gotten multiple studies and multiple recommendations that this region has followed out of those, all due to the work and the leadership that came out of the RTP since they were created in 2017.

So in 2024, in December, the city and the county officially voted to activate that regional transit authority by appointing two directors to their board.

And so they have been meeting since February.

And since they're established, they're having meetings, we as staff have recommended that this December 2025 be the last meeting of the RTP and they officially sunset so that transition can occur to CARTA for them being the primary regional transit forum for that discussion for the area.

And so the items included in your packet are only informational for this evening, but the RTP has its legitimacy from an MOU.

The MOU unfortunately doesn't speak to how to dissolve the partnership.

So what we're doing is following the exact same process that we did to set it up.

So we're going back to the boards, everyone who signed the MOU to provide the letter that was included in your packet to request them take action to dissolve the RTP.

And then at the same time, also taking them a new MOU for CARTA.

specifically identifying the PDC as the lead agency for administration, just as we did for the RTP, and then also the responsibilities for Charlottesville and Albemarle as well.

So happy to answer any questions.

Thank you, Taylor.

Thanks.

Oh, right.

Isabella, who I'm going to talk about some more, was a subject of clothing brand.

I'm here tonight to request your support for the TJPDC Corporation septic assistance program grant application to the Oak Hill Fund.

The Oak Hill Fund is a private organization whose mission is to promote the well-being of people on the planet through effective and inspiring grant making.

A letter of inquiry to their Healthy Planet, Chesapeake Bay, and Water Quality grant program is due by the end of this month.

As a regional planning commission, the TJPDC maintains a formal partnership with the nonprofit TJPDC corporation through a memorandum of agreement.

This partnership enables the corporation to implement programs that address regional challenges with the corporation utilizing TJPDC staff and resources to carry out its work.

So this grant is critical to the continuation of the septic assistance program that the TJPDC successfully launched this year with funding from DEQ's Infrastructure Investment and Job Act funding.

That funding source has since dissolved, but the need for this funding in the community does remain.

The need for this program is established by data from the Virginia Department of Environmental Quality.

Water quality analysis indicates that two-thirds of our region's impaired waterways are related to the presence of the bacterial pollutant E. coli.

Failing septic systems represent a significant contributing factor to this impairment, and they also contribute nitrogen pollution.

Nitrogen is one of the three main pollutants Virginia has mandated to reduce in the Chesapeake Bay and local waterways under the Clean Water Act and the Chesapeake Bay Agreement.

Furthermore, statistics from the Virginia Department of Health show that over half of Virginia's 1.1 million onsite sewage systems are approaching the end of their operational lifespan.

So this aging infrastructure is estimated to contribute 7.8 million pounds of nitrogen annually to the Chesapeake Bay area and our tributaries.

Additionally, the failure of these systems creates public health risks and a significant financial burden on low-income homeowners specifically who often lack the financial resources for the costly septic system repair and replacements due to lack of maintenance.

So the septic assistance program provides financial aid to low-income homeowners at 80% of the area medium income or below.

for maintenance, repairs, and full replacement projects.

It protects both public health and our environment, and we work to educate the community on the benefits of proper system maintenance to improve water quality and reduce the need for the much more costly repairs and replacements over time.

So by leveraging partnerships with the Department of Health, our local conservation districts, and housing foundations we work with through our housing programs, the TJPDC has been able to successfully carry out this year's current program.

So this request will be informed by the documented need gathered by our housing foundation partners who work directly with qualifying homeowners and also provide an established network of qualified contractors familiar with the septic work.

So we're not starting from scratch.

We're scaling a solution that's utilizing proven best management practices known to effectively reduce nutrient pollution.

So if awarded the funding, the TJPDC will continue to support staff resources and technical assistance to support program implementation through our existing memorandum of agreement with the corporation and the program's focus on assisting underserved communities while addressing environmental challenges aligns with

Regional planning objectives for sustainable development and public health protection.

Additionally, this aligns with the TJPDC's priority program areas as outlined in our strategic plan through 2028, including environmental planning, supporting the watershed improvement program, housing to address our local infrastructure needs that affect housing habitability and property maintenance,

and enhances our regional and local planning to contribute to comprehensive planning needs for our rural and suburban areas.

So finally, you can find the drafted letter of support in your packet and we hope that you all support the corporation's application for continued funding of this program as we believe it represents a practical approach to addressing both environmental and community needs in our region.

We have existing funding for the TJPDC staff, but the Oak Hill Fund supports non-profits.

Through my seat on the chair of the Thomas Judge Fund, excuse me, Thomas Judge Fund.

People excuse me, Land Trust changed the name.

Oak Hill Funds has done wonderful things.

I can't really get into too much of it because they try to keep the plug key, but that is one heck of a organization.

They do some great work, and I'm happy to see that they are active in this because if you've ever witnessed a failed septic field, it is not a pleasant sign.

All right, any questions?

Hi, this is an action item, so I'll give you the first and the second.

So good.

Second.

Manning on one, Phil on the second.

All in favor?

Aye.

Thank you.

Thank you all.

No, I'm great.

All right, so what's up next?

All right.

So we are going to talk about the building committee.

Christine is going to take on leading that.

Before we do that, I just want to thank everybody on the building committee.

It seems like every few years we go through this and we're back again.

It seems like every four or five years we take a look at this.

So as we were approaching the end of a current five-year lease for the 401 and 407 space here at Water Street Center, our lease was to terminate September 30th of 2025, which just passed.

Back in winter of 24, the commission directed staff to renegotiate a five-year lease.

At that time, we talked about potential of purchase versus renewing the lease.

We were directed to renew the lease.

The commission at that time also supported staff's request to work with the landlord to develop a scope of work for tenant improvements to do some things like flooring paint, fresh paint throughout.

And so we have been working with our landlord.

Our landlord did seek an estimate from contractors to do the scope of work that we

So I think one of the things we talked about was the allowances that have baked into that.

And one of the conversations we had is that we would put like a 20% cost overrun for allowances.

So those of us in the construction or housing related business sometimes allowances can sneak up on you.

So what we wanted to do was give

So when we do make the motion, we're going to need to add a little bit of language to that, and then give the executive director the ability to make decisions on the spot related to that.

So other than that, is there any questions on that?

I don't know if you guys have a lot of talk.

Go ahead.

Good point, sir.

Well, I brought it to the point that I don't know how many bathrooms you can deal with, but this one that's closest to this room, the urinal, is like climbing a mountain.

My little short legs aren't even fine, though not as impersonal.

We discussed earlier about maybe a rant.

I've been taking it around this building for 15 years.

The joke about that was the executive director

I think that he did this on purpose.

So you would like, maybe the scope would work to include adjusting the mural.

That doesn't cost.

I think we won't make that an official motion, but maybe we can make a note of that.

Not a chance.

You know, but the evidence is brought to you.

Could you speak to the time frame so people knew when it was going to happen?

Oh, yeah.

Let's just put it together.

Yes, the contractor and the owners have indicated that should we proceed, that they would be able to have a six-week construction window.

And we would work logistically with all of our boards, commissions, and committees to make sure that we either can schedule virtual meetings during that schedule or rent space if we would need to hold in-person meetings.

Because some of them you can't have

All of them.

I guess the other piece was with this.

I'm not, I'm going to stay away from all filming issues here.

I'm not about to say go to the other bathroom or anything of the same problem.

We end up in this spot every five years because

But we're going to take a deeper dive into the ownership with the folks.

All right, so we're going to keep the bathroom comments out of the motion, but we do need to put just 20% in so we don't like to swing at it.

Oh, I gotcha.

So I move the commission to approve, this committee approved scope of work and associated costs for building improvements authorizing the executive director to negotiate a five-year lease to improve the coastal leasehold improvements.

Thank you, sir.

May I have a second?

Second.

Who was the second?

Second.

May I?

Thank you.

All right.

All in favor, say aye.

Aye.

Thank you.

Well, I know we do.

Mr. Chekhov.

Robinson on the table.

Really trying to hold a very special class.

All right, full business.

Okay.

As you all know, in the September, October meetings, we bring before you an FY 27 projected budget that sets the per capita rates and the local contributions of our locally funded programs.

In our previous meeting in September, we brought the draft projected budget to you.

There has only been one revision made since last month, and that's an increase in the reserve transfer in the amount of 9,189 for the now approved building renovations.

We had a placeholder in there based on back of the napkin square footage.

This additional 9,000 includes the scope of work as provided.

And then it also has an increase in the rent line item amount of an equal amount.

So the FY 27 projected budget is balanced.

It includes revenues of $24,340,411 and expenses in the unsaved amount with the now anticipated reserve transfer of $69,375.

Staff recommends a motion to approve the FY 27 projected budget as presented and a draft resolution is included in the moving materials.

Negative.

Good.

Ned on first, Nick on second.

I'm trying to track the baseball game.

I'm bouncing around a little bit here, but I'm trying to pay attention.

Anybody remember the name Fred?

I'm going to go off topic for a second.

Fred Bayne from Savannah County.

He used to literally listen to the baseball games.

They had a little television.

Just a couple of very small dates.

We have a

written updates on all of our programs.

The one thing I wanted to note that I did not put in here is as we are all aware, we are currently under a federal government shutdown.

You guys know that we are a heavily federally funded organization.

I just wanted to make sure that you knew that we were watching that closely.

We currently have accounts receivable from federal sources in about 240,000.

That is actually lower than our normal federal receivable.

But wanted to make sure you guys felt really comfortable.

We have ample funds.

We have 10.82 months of operating expenses on hand.

And at this time we don't have immediate concern for cashflow.

We have ample funds to be able to front the costs and then seek that reimbursement.

And also potentially will impact our American Vista, who is a federal employee.

The other update that I have is

We have a PACT Transportation Assistant position that we just posted last week that has been vacant.

We left it vacant intentionally for a quarter because our grant funding did not cover full time until October 1.

So that is now posted in live.

The intent is to hire the position by November.

Then the other large update is the Great Manor River Basin Commission.

They held their meeting.

It was excellent September 24th.

focused on water supply planning, data centers, and speakers from MACO, RWSA, DEQ, Cleveland Environmental Council, and the Rivanna Conservation Alliance.

There were about 65 participants.

That was an excellent event.

And then also we had the joint Stanton-Alvesto-Wainsboro MPO and Trailsville-Albemarle MPO meeting this past week, had speakers focusing mostly on multimodal, some statewide rail planning,

updates from both VDOT and DRPT, again, another well-attended and well-organized event.

So kudos to staff for both of those.

Any questions if we're speaking?

We're moving along pretty good, guys.

We're down to rattle table by jurisdiction.

I'm going to start with you.

Now watch.

You know, the elections just go randomly depending on the handle of what's going on down the road.

You know what I'm going to do with it.

Sandy Gabbard.

There isn't a whole lot.

Supposedly, I believe it was today, I think,

Buckingham Branch, the Jimmy Singh Breville, is that who's in the stand?

It was.

That's an invasion of Buckingham Branch.

I think that was posted through the chamber in Louisa.

I have a meeting today, two and a half to three o'clock in the morning.

At least one excursion coming out of Louisa.

Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, Sunday,

I don't know if it's going to be good enough, but that's not all I have to say.

Any update on Amazon data centers for sure?

Well, if you want to hear that, the first data center building should be online late November, first part of December, as at the Lake Amherst campus down next to the power plant.

and working on the second campus.

I'm not sure.

I thought that one of the locations was called the Kansas.

Well, the one in Northeast Greek, which is near, between the town of Louisiana, is, they split that.

It was started, well, Kansas is now the state of Missouri.

So anyway, but they're working there, moving a lot of dirt and stuff there.

They did an application that they would dream for their third location.

We don't know, we think there'll be some time next year with some changes made to that, but no guarantees.

So it's moving along.

They've got, the last time they were about 500, 400 weeks, it's a different one.

Anchors for the construction.

and that's in the Cuckoo District.

And that supervisor is pretty, I mean, he has a, I don't know which part of the stuff is, as you tell, I'm very computer savvy, but he has a presence in all that media stuff.

And it's been amazing having even complaints that have been for that location with that moment.

So I think,

Between the contractor, which is part of the structure, the general contractor, you know something, they really work hard to try and be with your neighbor as best they can be with dump trucks and concrete trucks and all that stuff.

So, you know, so far, it's a building group.

Thank you.

Thank you.

James?

Another October, another federal shutdown.

It will fall fully into some major driver tourism revenue in Greene County.

Of particular concern are Shenandoah National Park and Spilow Drive.

My understanding is that the park is open, but it has a skeletal staff and the visitor centers closed.

Needless to say, a quick resolution to the shutdown

before the fall season advances too much further, it would be beneficial to be encouraged.

What about water?

There's been some progress on water, right?

Tim's been involved with that, so I might let him address the topic.

Real quick, just to put the Virginia Housing hat on for the Central Virginia Housing Partnership, we had a presentation at our quarterly meeting with Chris McNamara of Virginia Housing

and did a presentation on the Workforce Housing Investment Fund.

Now, typically, you know, that group gets a full roll out.

This is kind of more focused on worker and workforce housing.

The interesting part of it is that it's a grant program that's designed to be connected to job announcements and the job announcements don't have to be in your jurisdiction.

They'll just have to be within 45 minute drive of the job.

So if I have a program in Albemarle,

And I can maybe try to get this grant only and bring them down as long as I'm within 45 minutes of that announcement, that grant could be open to you.

It's targeting and trying to be especially helpful to rural areas and homeownership.

So if you have anything going on in your county, either job announcement wise or looking to help, this would be, like I said, it's targeted towards your

You're probably 120 AMI type of folks in that workforce housing tax scenario that you can reach out to me or any of the staff and they can put you in touch with Chris.

It's very lenient.

There's some local matching ball that you can match.

It's not just cash.

They're getting very creative with how localities can meet the match.

I won't give you all the other details.

We're closing in on finalizing our draft of our recent comp plan update.

I probably added a lot of extra time to the meeting yesterday myself, but we'll probably get one more draft ahead of us and then be taking a vote in the next couple of meetings.

Our data center, we had done a phase one where it basically put a cap or turned anything over 40,000 square foot.

It required a special use permit.

We had started a phase two conversation that would have allowed for some buy right in some very specific areas.

But that has just been put on pause for now.

So it wasn't, I think it's fair to say that it wasn't a very supportive, you know, kind of easier direction.

The board was a bit split on it.

But they're just putting it on bold.

We had community members starting to get riled up as well.

So that is going to be paused for a while.

And then the SAWC camp that joined the NDO meeting with Sam Mcgusta, Wayne Stroh, and Charles Albemarle, they did have some interesting things on there, specifically with rail.

and talking about perhaps coming up in the vote there's strategic I forget the timing but it's a long-term plan to try to connect kind of the Stanton area to the beach and have the rail kind of extend east west so there's the one that goes from Roanoke up to DC then there's the line that can come up from Richmond and go that way but now trying to think of the east-west kind of rail line which I think could impact all the numbers in this jurisdiction the folks could go from the beach to Stanton or

and back and forth from that.

Then also having the access to those other lines without having to go into D.C. could be interesting.

And was Breeze meant to have a line that way too?

There could also be a Breeze line.

So that's the bus that runs, that's running successful on the 81 corridor.

So that's also going to be there.

So that could be some interesting stuff for weekenders and looking to do stuff in the same in Virginia.

So

Staff can share the link to that meeting or in the terrorist materials if you'd like to see the real presentation and then the freeze information.

Plus there is a lot of projects y'all might just have curiosity about along 81 and some of the transportation projects that are going on on the west side of the mountain.

So Ned, transportation, who goes on with the work we do on the RHP?

The only thing I'd like to add to the comprehensive review that ended up on the board is an observation and maybe a question with it of the things that we ain't had, which is, you know, the years immediately preceding when I came on the board in 1924, we had long board meetings.

After six, we had all the public hearings, most of which are during that moment for residential development.

We still have a bit of that going forward, and we don't anymore.

We're consistently will have like some tax amendment, something to occupy us right after pre-briefing.

We got out of there soon, right?

And yet, most of the donating related matters that have come before us this year have been actually previous applicants coming back and saying, actually, we're going to fail to obligate on our previous terms.

We're going to be renegotiating new terms.

Part of that's our undoing, I think, right?

We have a pretty high standard sort of affordability at $30 right now, which is potentially chilling the market.

But I also know that cost of capital is the real add there right now, right?

Like it just takes a lot to just pull down the money.

And also like construction costs, we've been starting with pandemics, but that's capital we still have.

And so I bring this observation, we're not getting new development.

We're not getting new

Kogel, and I'm curious how much of that is our policy and how much y'all are seeing similar trends globally?

Are y'all having developers come with spectacular projects to puncture the paper?

Now, Keith, I know you've got data.

I want to hear anecdotes.

So, OK, I'm going to do that.

So, yeah.

So as some of you may be aware, we've had a little bit of fuzziness as to the applicability of our current zoning ordinance.

And it is in place and it is rolling.

We have a formal agreement from the plaintiffs and from the judge that even we followed in good faith and lawsuit sector next year at some point.

But during that sort of winnable state,

There was chilling events that media entities told me that was happening.

I do think that we are having a lot of free meetings and early discussion.

One,

The sort of dichotomy that I'm seeing is that we are going to be moving into a state where we're going to be cooling up our zoning ordinance in the matter of everything we type of.

It's unclear, you know, everyone has done this, written something, re-read one, looked at it seven times.

If you haven't looked at it seven times, someone realizes that doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

So we've got a few of those we're trying to fix.

We've got some low-hanging proof.

All to say that I'm noticing a, the ordinance was written to point you towards the larger household.

Six units on that lot.

That's a smaller developer question, right?

Exactly.

And we're, you know, I've been trying to work on tools for that, but we have had quite a bit of interest on those and those little sub-lots, we have the ability to sub-lot a resident of the lots there, where some of those start to come through.

But the question, I think our data, my anecdotes are going to be colored by the fact that

Everyone's still learning how to do it.

And what's going to work and what isn't.

So that's that.

For the rest of the city news, we've had our city managers in the midst of a bit of an organizational shuffle.

Trying to get those sorted with senior leadership and sort of the children.

and we are trying around the legislative package and I'll let Mike fill in all the stuff he wants.

Your problem is the price.

Yeah, that's your problem.

So, green down is up 27% year over year and lead construction because the rest of the stuff.

Good.

Could there be policies that could help that?

Sure.

But at the moment, you're seeing that the builders and developers go to where it's price sensitive.

My camera is up substantially.

Green camera is up substantially.

I won't give you data.

I'm just going to shift it up a lot.

So it's mostly price driven on it.

As far as the city of Charlottesville is concerned, I think the big issue on the small folks is the requirement of anything over three and a half and a half and a half on making a cell phone.

Three cell phones are making a cell phone.

To change that, you might get smaller employees, while the cost for it is too much for the cell phone, which means that it's been

John and I are chair.

Well, that's a debate that we have a little bit.

Yeah, I told the truth.

Well, only because you were talking about open seats.

We have two big work sessions coming up before the end of the year.

One later this month is going to be Georgia and Reynolds and overlay districts.

And then we've got our final approval

who we end up with come April, but that's the time for our zoning ordinance update.

Next weekend, starting on Thursday, we're gonna have the biggest music festival at Oak Hill, Oak Hill Cribs, excuse me, that we've had since the lock-in.

About 24,000 people will be coming to Nelson for the weekend.

So it's- What is it called?

I would suggest you Google it.

Anyway, good weekend for me to leave town and go to an environmental law office in Sewanee.

And yeah, we have four weeks left until elections over

Almost 20% of the central district, my district, has already ruling voting, which is really high, really high.

And so Nelson County has had a lot of voting, which is in, so let's see what happens.

I mean, I'm the only one of the supervisory with a viable race.

I get to go to the basketball for four days.

Yes, if there's that big festival coming, I'm going to be there.

Tommy, come on.

Tommy Barlow, I'll see you there.

Meet me at the tree line.

We got that.

As it relates to county stuff, Ernie really hit on a bunch.

Zoning is the big highlight.

I have spoken to a lot of those planning commissioners directly fighting on why front setbacks are

Not necessary to be 75 feet.

And currently I've been advocating for our front setbacks to go down to 40.

I might give in and go to 50.

And then talking about minimum lot sizes.

So there's some philosophies that have to be worked out.

But my main priorities in the zoning right now is reducing minimum lot sizes.

Setbacks, reducing setback requirements, as well as preserving home occupations for our tradesmen based contractors so that they have the ability to operate their plumbing business or whatever it is that they're doing from their garage.

So making sure that we're putting those, I would say those are my top four things that I'm working on in that regard.

Other than that Ernie I really don't know anything.

We had a fun forum thing last night.

Ernie didn't have as much fun as I did.

We had the League of Women Voters and they did a round table forum.

I am officially not against this concept.

I was concerned that it could produce chaos, but it actually was a really interesting, good discussion.

And oddly enough, we were able to stay away from federal politics and everything else.

So Ernie didn't want to debate me, FYI.

Thank you, Justin.

Well, I guess to add anecdotes, to answer Ruth's question, our new zoning ordinance had inclusionary zoning where any development of 10 or more units, you have to have at least 10% be affordable at 60% of area median income or below or pay into affordable housing fund based on the formula.

And one of the arguments put out there is this suppressing development.

So the city had an analysis done of a potential tax abatement program

to make it easier for developers to build with inclusionary zoning.

And they delivered that preliminary analysis, which was that inclusionary zoning is not a barrier to developers penciling out in any of the areas of the city.

And that even if you removed the inclusionary zoning affordable housing requirement and had a tax abatement policy that was stronger than anywhere else in the country,

Projects would still not pencil out, at least for multifamily in most areas of the city.

And at least their preliminary analysis was that even after zoning changes, what the market in Charlottesville really wants to build is student housing for multifamily and single family homes.

And that has not changed.

And that's what we're seeing.

And that the cost of land and construction is just so high compared to the red Charlottesville's market with Bayer.

It's either student housing or maybe someone who just kind of wants to do a project and is willing to accept a small margin, but it's not really rational for those people to pursue those projects.

We have a flood of thousands of private student apartments that will come online.

And I think that'll be interesting to see what impact student housing specifically has on the water market.

Is it a very unique subset or is it going to reach into

Non-student rental markets in terms of the broader impact.

So that's one thing.

Other big thing, Citi has potentially found a site for acquisition for a year-round homeless shelter.

We've had many plans not work out, so not saying it's part of my stuff yet, but it's on Holiday Drive, if anyone's familiar with it, where the Red Roof Inn is, that's in that area.

Cautiously optimistic because one,

In the past, any time a potential permanent homeless shelter site has been identified, it's in an acre.

It's directly adjacent to a park.

And as you can imagine, there's a lot of community concerns that come out.

This is not adjacent to any neighborhoods, but it is accessible by transit.

It is pretty close to the city.

It also has an undeveloped parcel next to it that is also something they're willing to sell along with an existing office building that could be retrofitted.

And the hope is that

You can have enough space for permanent year-round shelter along with a centralized location for services providers to all be in one place to provide wraparound services there as well.

So that'll be up for a vote at our upcoming Monday city council meeting.

And yeah, I mean, there's about 200 to 250 homeless people in Charlottesville, which is about the same as a decade ago, and it was 220.

And I would just say,

Charlottesville is very visible because we're centrally located.

There are people regionally who come here because it's where services are.

But I would say, if you look at the changes that are coming with Medicaid, the number of people who are going to lose insurance, health insurance premiums, changes that HUD has proposed to the continuum of care, which is the main homelessness funding source in the United States, the impacts to addiction, mental health treatments.

I think over the next several years, all of our counties are going to see homelessness become

A lot more visible than a much bigger issue.

And this is not just going to be a Charlottesville issue.

The Green County has approved the old board and found the project.

It did look to downsize the main scale to where it was an $80 million project.

We've cut it down to an $65 million project.

Downsizing the size of the reservoir down to this point to start it, and then years later to be built up as needed.

But all that has been approved, and we're in the process now of working out all the financial, bonding, just as we do that, and then it goes out to the beds for the contractors, which may already be somewhat in work, but we have approved the whole water and fountain project to start.

I think once that hits the wave, then our developers will start coming in more, too, because that's what a lot of the developers have been waiting to see, you know, the water.

They need water for the development stuff, so I think their air development may increase more once that gets started, too.

We've been having a lot of discussions back and forth with the Air Planning Commission, trying to figure out the best ordinance for

The biggest issue with this is that agritourism for the county, you know, defining, putting it in defining the farm and agritourism and trying to define that down.

And Keith was at it instantly a year ago with a big winery wanting to come to the county.

So we're back and forth with the planning commission trying to pinpoint the rings and define how we want to do that in the future.

Any more that offers when they come in for that too is one of our biggest discussions too.

We're moving right along with the water and trying to figure that out.

We've got a wah-wah coming into the corner.

We've got a lot of stuff, a lot of development in the water.

We've got major creek-side development and different things like that.

You approved the bond, right?

Yeah.

Anything else?

I'll take a little bit of chairman's discretion here.

Does the staff want to try to do anything?

Anything to share?

On my end, I issued a letter to Christine.

At the end of this, my chairmanship, after 15 years, I'll be stepping off of the donation of also the Land Trust Board and the Regional Housing Partnership Board of

Wargone, and my 85-year-old parents living with us that we've taken up a lot of time.

So after this, after this championship, I will be stepping down.

That's after 15 years, which is, I'm just blessed to be able to sit here and have a conversation with folks.

But I just wanted to share that with everybody and give everybody a half an hour back and wrap this up at eight thirty.

I move that you adjourn.

And I will point out that today is National Socky Day.

It's still open, right?

Yeah.

Sure.

I'm upset.