Planning District Commission Meeting   10/5/2023

Well, good evening, everyone.

I'm going to call the Thomas Jefferson Planning District Commission Thursday, October 5th, twenty twenty-three meeting to order and the we will do should we do the roll call first?

We should roll call first.

Supervisor Galloway.

Present.

Supervisor Andrews.

Yes.

Supervisor O'Brien.

Supervisor Herring?

Supervisor Jones?

Here.

Here.

Thank you, Ruth.

So the first thing we need to do, we have two members who

need to participate electronically.

If Mr. Smith, Ms. Wilkinson, if you will just state your location and your purpose for participating electronically, then we will take the action to allow you to participate.

Yeah, thank you, Chairman.

So here you go.

I am in Greene County, and I had a late doctor's appointment with my husband.

All right, thank you both.

And is there a motion to allow them to participate in electronics?

We've got a first and a second.

All in favor say aye.

Aye.

We oppose.

All right, you guys are in.

Thank you.

Per the next item, we're going to welcome the new commissioner.

Good evening.

Welcome to say a few words of welcome or introduction.

And we'll just do a quick round of words so you know who everyone is.

Ms. Brether, who would you like to start?

That's Brether, his sister.

Oh, that's the one you sat out, right there.

That's the one you sat out, right there.

That's the one you sat out, right there.

I'm Ben Galloway.

Chief Operating Officer, GAPDC.

Thank you, Keith Smith.

I'm sorry that you get no face, only a voice, but hopefully we'll be there next time in person.

Well, I'm sorry I just got that in advance.

Hi, I don't have a voice and I'm at home sick, so thank you to my team for doing it for me.

Yes, sir.

I am here.

My name is Gorjan Gjorgjievski.

Thank you.

And Lucinda?

So the next item matters from the public and do we have any, there's no one in the room from the public.

I see no public online.

Well, at least you don't have to participate the last few times.

Sean, you've got to participate again someday.

So we will close matters from the public.

No comments, email.

So then we will get to number 2C, a public hearing and a proposal for providing universal broadband access.

And Ms. Gluck, would you go forward?

Just briefly, you made a call at your September meeting that you voted to accept an unsolicited proposal.

for publication and consideration of your PPEA guidelines.

That proposal will be submitted by a private broadband to provide Internet and additional unserved areas within the current 13-county project area.

And we have TJPDC, who will lead out with more on body 2024 funding.

We followed up that meeting with the proposed statement, the receipt of that proposal,

and provided for a 15-day period for competing proposals to be submitted and pursuant to your guidelines.

We received no competing proposals.

This proposal was really just an extension of the 2020-2022 project that we're currently administering.

Much of the proposal that was submitted by Firefly this time is what you had approved last year.

Forstner on the 2023 round, which was not a successful application, but it includes coverage of additional areas in Greene County, as well as Madison and Cumberland, and then also investigating some additional areas for possible service in Louisa County, as well as Houston and Patil.

The staff has reviewed the proposal, found it to be in conformance with the PPEA guidelines, and again, I think Sandy just kind of colored that coverage map

with high speed internet access across the region.

All right, we will open the public hearing.

Does everyone here wish to speak to this item?

Yeah, I would just say if you all would approve this resolution, this draft resolution, and send your packets you have before you, then we would provide, TJPDC would provide a notice of intent to apply for body 2024 funding that would go to the Department of Housing and Community Development.

And then we would continue to analyze the proposal.

We worked with them moving forward.

The application deadline was not until, I think, the week before Christmas.

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There it is.

We're good.

Thank you.

All right, we will go to item number three presentations.

So as you all know, we are conducting a regional transit governance study.

It is about a little more than halfway through.

We're planning to end it in December.

And I'm just going to give you a little update about how it's going.

This one?

So we recently had a steering committee meeting and this is kind of

Part of that presentation and an update on what we found during the steering committee meeting.

So the project started with goals, looked at existing conditions and talked to transit providers and jurisdictions about the existing conditions for the transit in the region.

And this study is looking at just a quick background.

How the region can collect additional revenue that would be dedicated to transit to support the Regional Transit Vision Plan and also how it could manage that additional revenue and make decisions around it and be accountable for it.

So we'd have to set up some type of structure of a board

to be able to do that, to manage the funds.

So we looked at peer regions in the area and how they govern and fund their regional transit.

We engaged the jurisdictions and talked with them about their needs for transit and how they think that a governing structure should look.

and then we looked at revenue generation for the region and we went back to the peer studies and looked at how they were funding their transit and evaluated if it would work for this region.

We also again engaged the jurisdictions and talked with them about their thoughts on the different types of revenue generation that we found would be applicable to this area.

And now we're working on governance options, which would be how we would make decisions around how that funding was spent and be accountable for it.

So some of the things that we discussed in the Steering Committee meeting was board membership.

We heard from the jurisdictions when we were meeting with them individually that they were concerned that they were not going to get their fair share.

If they were contributing to a regional transit fund, how are the decisions going to be made?

Is a rural county making decisions for the city of Charlottesville?

Are the rural counties going to get enough funding and enough out of it?

There was a lot of concern about that.

So we talked about who would be on the board.

How would we determine what voting powers board members and jurisdictions had?

And we also talked about the role of the authority in transit planning and decision making, because this is another tool that we can use.

Not only is voting membership on the board, a way to ensure that jurisdictions are receiving what they want out of the transit

Governing Body, but we can also do a plan and have a system for prioritizing the services in the plan and have the board agreeing on those types of things of how they're going to be spending the money and how the funding would be allocated.

So there's a lot more tools than just board membership that we can look at to make sure that everybody's getting their fair share.

So some other things were, you know, with the representation, we could have a technical advisory committee made up of staff from the jurisdictions, talk about decision making criteria and have a process for that that everybody agrees on.

And then financial reporting and funding oversight would definitely be part of the accountability.

So the current state of transit funding kind of looks like this.

It's both about $9 million a year.

The federal assistance for jaunt is a little bit more than it typically would be because of COVID relief funds.

So that will go down.

And then the regional transit vision plan

proposed two different service networks of public transit.

The first one was constrained and it was what the consultants thought that we could afford in this region.

And then the other one was unconstrained and that was just like, you know,

If money was no object, what would we do and what would it look like for the community?

So if you look at the chart here, you can see that the cost for the constrained and the unconstrained

is at the top.

And then the anticipated federal and state contributions, you can see as you increase the services, you're increasing the state contribution by quite a bit because it's based on ridership.

So that would be bringing a lot more money into our area to provide these services.

And then the bottom row is the deficit of what we would need to make up locally as a region.

Those for, you know,

to implement some of those services.

And the services, it's not like one package or the other.

It's, you know, we can start with a couple of bus routes and then continue to go, maybe work our way up to the constraint and then continue onto the unconstrained plan as we grow and develop more resources for it.

So we looked at six different funding options.

In your packet, you'll see there's two slides that kind of weighs the pros and cons

of the different funding options and the good news is that sales tax is the only option that we looked at that would require state legislative approval.

All of the other ones are in the realm of the local jurisdictions.

So in your packet you'll see there's a couple tables, well I guess there's six, each with the different sources.

So this table is the estimated revenues from sales tax and we just did a 0.7% sales tax increase and you can see it's broken down by the different jurisdictions and

In fiscal year 2025, it's estimated that we could raise $36 million for transit.

So it is possible to reach those funding costs to be able to implement the regional transit vision plan.

So I'm not going to read all of these out.

But we looked at the lodging tax also and an increase in that.

and then personal property tax and real estate tax.

Okay.

Well, that's good news.

Do you want to look at the other ones?

So there's the sales tax.

So in the first year we could raise $36 million.

The lodging tax would be $1 million in the first year.

The personal property tax, $12 million.

The real estate tax, $50 million.

And that's just like a 1% increase.

I have extra handouts if you want them, and it's also in your packet.

Okay.

So then the next steps, we're going to be meeting individually with the jurisdictions.

Again, I'm scheduling those meetings right now to talk about, we have already met with them and talked about like

What they think about the different revenue options and how politically feasible it is.

And now we're going to be talking with them about how, what they would accept for a governance structure.

and what that would look like for them to be acceptable to join something like this.

We currently have legislation to have a regional transit authority and it is Albemarle and Charlottesville and then the other jurisdictions are allowed to join.

We don't have to have all the rural jurisdictions.

We wanted to start from that point to include all the rural jurisdictions so that they have the option and we kind of plan for that.

But if they choose not to join, that's fine.

And they can join later on if they want.

They can join and leave.

You know, it's not, you know, make it or break it if we all don't join.

and then we'll finalize the development of the governance options and post a final memo, the last tech memo about the different options and pros and cons and then we'll produce a final report which will have recommendations of what a governance structure would look like that would be acceptable to the region and also what types of revenue sources would be acceptable for the region.

For the revenue sources, or?

OK.

I'm just looking out on the panel in context.

Yeah, so it would be adding an additional 0.7 and dedicating that to transit.

So what you're saying, once the governance structures are in place, it's a pretty good recommendation that each jurisdiction has to first decide if they want to participate.

And then if they want to participate, my guess is it's not that you have to get them all over the grid with one revenue stream.

I don't see why not personally, but one might do a property tax or one might do this or one might just pay for it out of their general fund.

So you got to make a recommendation, but it doesn't necessarily mean everybody's locked into

Now this isn't broke out by like how the TJPDC everybody pays based on the population of the per capita that we do.

Well, I mean, yeah, this is, you know, kind of estimating at the same rate, an increase of the same rate, but it doesn't have to be.

Okay, be a radical school.

Yeah, obviously a very long way to go.

Very preliminary conversation after city council received some of this information.

It seemed like the city council had a little bit more reluctance maybe on the real estate tax side as a revenue source.

Of course, a long way to go.

So by any means, say it's pulled out.

But we've got to remain a state tax relief program as well as an agreement with schools that could take out a chunk of any increased revenue from there.

So I think we've at least begun to think about whether it be this legislative session or the next one.

We didn't seem like there was at least, at this moment, greater alignment around that as to who's watching.

Here's the comment.

No, I think that the city and Albemarle are pretty supportive, they're very supportive of the transit vision because it will be increasing, so it'll keep all the current services and then it's gonna

Increase the headways between buses in Charlottesville, the CAT buses would right now the headways are like an hour to 30 minutes.

They would be like every 15 minutes to every 20 minutes, which would be a tremendous improvement.

It would also extend the service hours.

So like now you can't ride the bus on Sundays, but the bus would be available seven days a week and it would be available later at night.

One of the things that we found in the focus groups for the vision plan was that service workers were late into the evening, especially at restaurants, and they were not able to get home.

They work on weekends and they were living out in rural areas where it's less expensive to live and having to take a taxi to and from work, which is a lot of money for somebody from a rural area, you know, going in and making a minimum wage.

So that would be a tremendous help to the area as well.

And the rural jurisdictions, the plan would be to have a fixed route bus that goes from like an urbanized area in each of the counties and into the city every hour.

and then have the micro transit, like the lift service, but public transit, and have that connecting people to the hourly service that goes into the urbanized areas.

I have a question.

I'm sorry, it wasn't at the beginning.

And if you were not participating in the study, the coalition of all the counties, a county could still implement any of these on their own.

Well, if you wanted to raise the sales tax, if the region came together as one group and wanted and asked the legislature to do that, it would be a much stronger ask than just having individual jurisdictions do that.

Also,

The economies of scale, it would be better to have one planning agency, one plan, one executive director.

It just would be more economical for us to do it together.

And then also it would be much better for coordination of how those buses meet up and how the service providers interact.

And do you have different branding on the two different jurisdictions, buses?

It doesn't just allow us to draw down some of those forms of reporting as well.

So I think there's benefit financially that if you go in as a group that that opens up a new option of funding that's available for everybody in the United States.

Yeah, it's a huge amount.

So if you look at the state contribution, it increases tremendously as we add services.

So there's opportunity to bring in more funding from the state and the feds

If we are providing more services together.

And so if we're able to count the rides from all of the jurisdictions, then it gives us more leverage to get that additional funding.

So right now we have the authority to form a transit authority.

We don't have any funding for it.

So we would be going, well, first we want to make sure that what we have current in the current legislation is what works for the region and what all of the jurisdictions want to have.

And the second thing is to, we would be going to make any changes that came out of this study that were recommended to the legislation.

When the original legislation to give the authority to the authority to pass, that is one of the rules.

With a separate rule, it would provide the revenue source.

The authority bill passed rather than literally.

All right, that will take us to number four, the consent agenda.

We have the minutes of the September 7, 2000 blank briefing and the August financial reports.

Is there a presentation on the financial community?

Any changes to the minutes of the September 7th meeting?

Anybody caught?

Notice?

All right.

Well, then we need a motion to approve it.

Number one, they've been seconded.

Someone else?

Got a motion?

We have a second.

Second.

All right.

Aye.

I was waiting for Mr. Smith there.

Gotcha.

So we have two abstentions.

The rest are aye.

Three abstentions?

Three abstentions.

Let's do this again.

Opposed?

Abstentions?

Aye.

Abstain?

Four?

Five.

Five.

Five.

Five.

Five.

Five.

All right, David, get back to the break.

You think so?

Mr. Chairman, is it possible to split up the vote?

Because, you know, obviously we can vote on the financials, but not the minutes.

Thank you, sir.

So, with that, let's redo the motion.

Recall that.

Who made that motion, officially?

Recall that motion.

Recall the motion.

Yes.

Supervisor O'Brien.

Yes.

Supervisor Herring.

Supervisor Barlow.

Abstain.

Supervisor Jones.

Abstain.

Supervisor Reed.

Yes.

Yes.

Now we need a motion to approve the August financial reports.

I move we approve the financial reports.

Second.

All right, moving consecutive, this one I think we can just do by acclamation.

Aye.

Opposed?

Abstentions?

Aye.

Opposed?

One abstention.

Put me on the toes there.

Yes, just briefly, for those of you that were here last year in October, we went a little bit of a deeper dive about the TJPDC relationship with the Department of Housing and Community Development.

I call them our parent agency.

That's where state allocation for PDCs for other student needs to be.

But along with that, there is an annual requirement that all PDCs submit an annual report.

to the HCD Scranton activities for the previous fiscal year.

Upon approval of that report, the HCD then starts to money plug.

So we submitted our annual reports by the September 1st deadline, a little over a month ago, and the report has been approved.

So what you have in your packet is the contract that the HCD sent us and

It really just lists the PDC's responsibilities in order to receive a state fund.

So, um, Christine has signed the contract, uh, and it's at the HCD, no matter where the name is signed.

But once that is fully executed, uh, state payments to, uh, TJPDC is just under $90,000 a year, $89,971.

So that's just a little information item for you about the new contract.

We'll move to 5B, Virginia Association of Planning District Management.

This is actually a good segue, Mr. Chairman, as we're talking about funding for EDCs, I wanted to

Bringing you all some information about a request for additional state funding that the Virginia Association of Planning and History Commissions will be making as we head into the 2020-24 session.

Next slide, please.

I'm just going to run through these 25 slides very briefly.

Just a little background.

The code, as you know, provides a framework for PDCs, emphasizing the

Cooperation and collaboration between local governments, but also that state and local partnership.

There are 21 PDCs, some are known as regional commissions or regional councils in Virginia.

And again, as I mentioned earlier, there's state funding for most of the PDC, that 89971 per year.

The three largest PDCs, Northern Virginia, Richmond area, and Hampton Roads have higher amounts.

Next slide.

So just a little background, state funding for PDC has really fluctuated over the years.

What we've seen really since the Great Recession, so the past 15 years, is that we've been below what those high levels were.

You can see there, there was a high of $90,000 for PDC in 2006.

Much higher amounts around that time, maybe even a little bit earlier, was the high for the largest three.

Great Recession fell about 66,000 per year was then several years later bumped up to 75,971 again for all the degree largest and it was pretty stagnant for about 10 years and then VA PDC several years ago had an initiative to get us back up to about where we were at that all-time high by asking for an additional 14,000 for PDC that got us to the

89,971 that we have now.

So, you know, therefore total base funding, the 89 times 18 and the others is about $2.1 million in the current fiscal year state funding for PDCs.

Next slide, please.

So the APDC is requesting that there be additional money for each PDC included in the governor's budget.

This is the year that

I am your budget for fiscal year 25 and 26.

It's going to be a big ask.

It is a big ask.

We're asking for an additional $150,000 per PPC per year.

That equates to $3.1 million for each year.

So over the two years, a $6.2 million ask.

We have made that formal request to the governor.

A letter signed by the VA PPC president was sent last week

and they were in the process of trying to set up some meetings with governor's staff as well as some cabinet officials to talk about that in the class.

And I think there's one more slide.

And in addition to that, the APDC sent out this week some materials to all of the PDCs asking really, some supportive advocacy materials.

There was a copy of the governor's, the letter to the governor,

There's a sample letter for the PDCs to provide to their member jurisdictions, their county cities and towns, asking them to put their own flavor on why the PDC is important to them, the value, the benefit that they get out of their regional PDC.

And then there was also some talkable things that were included in what was said out.

So really trying to utilize the PDCs, the local governments,

to support this request.

We're going to also be working on the legislative side.

We're also going to be working to inform legislators and leadership, working with money committee staff, the general assembly to make sure that they are aware of this request.

And again, just really trying to do a focused effort at the IFC, PDCs, local governments,

Villanueva, already have positions of support for increased funding for PDCs and their legislative platforms, so we're really trying to count on support for this request.

If there's nothing included in the Governor's budget, then we want to also, again, work with the legislators in advance, being in a position to go to the legislative room with some budget amendments to

We ask the PDCs to do that, to re-talk the individual jurisdictions for the members to write a letter, pass a resolution, recognizing that in some cases, depending on where you're located and which politics they be, it may not be the best path to write a letter together.

But in that case,

But you will, you know, the jurisdiction, you all and your local jurisdictions will be receiving information from us as well.

O'Brien, John O'Brien, John O'Brien, John O'Brien, John O'Brien, John O'Brien, John

There's no questions or comments?

Not seeing any.

So we can make action.

I do like that the items are now, the actions are right there.

And I get the agenda.

I think that's what you're really.

Is there a commissioner who wishes to make that motion?

McPherson, David Blount.

All right.

The motion has been made and seconded.

All in favor, please say aye.

Aye.

Abstentions?

You're going to abstain?

I don't have yet the title to be made.

Oh, you can vote.

OK.

Very good.

Then that will take us to B fiscal year 25 projected operating budget.

Yes, Mr. Chairman.

And likewise, with the strategic plan, there were no additional comments or questions that staff has received since your September

Review of the FY 25 Projected Operating Budget.

Remember, this is the one that is submitted to the local governments with next year's local funding request, $0.60.

Since per capita rate, the only significant changes from what was presented to you last month was the addition of $23,000 in federal funding from the Southeast Crescent Regional Commission.

That's one of those.

Which we did talk about, and you actually adopted a resolution related to that.

And then just a reminder, this is your first crack at the fiscal year 25 budget.

We'll have another budget presented to you in April for your consideration, and then approval in May.

That one will be wanted.

It will likely have some changes.

due to additional grants or programs that have been applied.

So budget sources of revenue, the per capita contributions, and the draft resolution will support total approval.

Questions on the budget?

Very close.

Let's make the comment that if you're looking for more information on the Southern Press Regional Commission, the materials would be in the last meeting.

If you want to go through and see that, what's in there, if you're going to learn more about that for commissioners that work on the defendants at that meeting.

That was presented in the last one.

All right, then we need a motion to

Thank you.

Thank you.

So the motion has been made and seconded.

All in favor say aye.

Aye.

Opposed?

The sentence.

Oh yeah, and the code that Mr. Smith did give a physical acclimation there for I.

There you go, everybody in there.

All right, thank you.

Moving along.

Yeah, Mr. Chairman, very briefly, Christine's report is in your packet.

I'm just going to take a minute or two to highlight a couple of items.

I wanted to let you know that most of our staff here were able to participate in the United Way Day of Caring.

A couple of weeks ago, we had a really neat project out at Central Elementary School in Nevada County, working to paint what I would call asphalt games.

Here you can see some pictures on the screen on the blacktop that had recently been seal coated.

Some of them, we did some repainting.

There were some really, you know, the creative ones, the Hunk staff did a great job of coming up with some new games to paint.

That is the Central Elementary School mascot.

Sparky?

Was that the name?

Sparky?

So, Lori Jean, who you heard from last year, last year, last month, you know, talking about HPG and home, did the painting on Spark, you know, just did a phenomenal job, but great project, a lot of good teamwork, a lot of, just good camaraderie with the folks there, and we're actually hoping to, they actually have two plays, two black cops that they wanted us to work on, and we're gonna tie it to one, so we hope they're gonna

to schedule something for you to go back there in the public meetings to see what you guys set up by the plan.

Secondly, as was mentioned, the additional $23,000 for the Southeast Present Regional Commission funding.

That's really just for some regional administration planning, technical assistance, with an eye toward promoting economic development in the region.

And I know as we get into

We get into that money and get into spending that money.

We'll have more items to tell you about, about how that's going.

Wanted to point out last week's Right Anna River Basin Conference.

So, look it out on the office building.

We had 51 registrants for the conference focused on PFAS, the Forever Chemicals.

I had some really good presentations from both the federal and state, as well as local officials had some really good

Q&A, some good discussion during that morning conference, and kudos to Bella O'Brien for putting that together.

And then finally, I just want you all to know that the auditors have been here this past week.

Robert Cox has been in Monday through Thursday of this week, conducting the annual audits.

Laura and Ruth actually did a phenomenal job of getting all of our financial records in order in preparation for the auditors to be here.

So what Ruth tells me, they spent more time looking at records digitally this time around, which probably helped with the efficiency of getting the audit done.

But as of the past, we will have the finance and executive committee

Yeah, and my question is, am I supposed to show up?

Any questions or comments here?

O'Brien, George Egan, number 8 out of business, violent table discussions.

Did I miss something?

We'll do the roundtable discussion.

I'll go online first.

I will have to since Dale is not here to do it.

We do have a lot of development going on, some new items coming up.

For one thing, Terrace Green has started, they've broken ground for some new townhouses.

They have a proffer that they have to do X amount of commercial with it.

They may put some of the commercial under the residential, stacked.

If they do that, it'll be the first time we did that since standards built 200 years ago, when of course everybody lived over their shop.

So anyway, that's one thing.

We've got another small 120 unit age restricted apartment complex going up across from Dunkin Donuts and Room 29, if you know where that is.

And we have a Wawa coming in.

Also, we have recently had a

Development in Stannersville decide to go from single family homes, 500 of them, to single family homes and town homes.

And possibly they are allowed to do business, but they don't expect to.

So that's a weird one.

Thank you very much.

We'll go stick with online.

Everybody in the room is going to be shocked by this, but I'm a little brain dead from COVID.

So I'm actually going to shut up.

And that's a rare, rare thing.

But what I do want to take a second and give a little shout out to Ruth and particularly to the yeoman's job.

She's done taking over the RHP.

She's really doing a great job.

So I just wanted to give a quick little shout out.

And Mr. Chairman, I'm going to nurse my headache and put this on mute.

Mr. O'Brien?

As I mentioned, exactly.

We had some motions with the regional occupancy pass and a lot of that maybe we were not actually having ones in place for shorter term levels.

So we're looking at putting that in place.

We've done a performance study of the way it's been done for a short term use.

We've continued to progress and as I'm supposed to be able to go as far as development goes, we're excited.

And then there's also a new one in Charlottesville in Atlanta.

We've got to have the entrance of 53 in front of us in Atlanta.

It costs quite a bit of cost to initiate.

It's affordable housing apartments that are being printed out of beautiful druids.

I want to enjoy the development there.

And I was really sort of upset, but this is part of the place.

It's irrigated the community.

But it's an immediate mix of housing.

We don't have any apartments to put in at all.

And we can be seeing housing pressures coming through there as well, too, as we pass from one town to the other.

So I think we'll see.

We then had, they had put in sort of a little water tower, a small water tower for suppression, but it wasn't in by enough pressure.

You can see I put it right in front of that, and more custom made, really, which of course is a little bit unfortunate from that standpoint.

So, that all comes along the way.

Heels are back over here.

We have four or five failures that are just going to be delayed.

So I need to share a lot with you today.

O'Brien, and David Blount.

Okay, thank you.

All right.

We've got things planned for meetings.

We're the shortest meetings of either.

We did work on legislative priorities, which is why I like it.

We worked on our housing assistance programs and then we changed the program.

It's way in the thousands of hundreds as a maximum of 30,000 for housing, down payment assistance, zero interest, $1,500.

So the process may be illustrated.

We've looked at transportation priorities, and we'll say for profit, we'll actually talk about things, and we'll do that over and over again.

And we have, in fact, I think, Dr. Cheryl Bailey from Virginia Tech can give us an economic report on the nation, state, and county.

No, it's fascinating.

It's a lot of speed amount data thrown at us and we take our time adjusting and I think it's important that we're bring a change, but we have to continue to be aware and casual to respond to that change in certain circumstances.

It's difficult.

I won't really add a lot for Albemarle, but I will take the chance to speak to some stuff that's related to TJPDC, the Charlottesville-Albemarle Metropolitan Planning Organization and the Stanton-Augusta-Waynesboro Metropolitan Planning Organization.

We are the only two NPOs in the state, if I remember hearing this correctly, meeting together into a joint annual meeting, which we did a few, that was the 20th, I'm remembering, right?

Something like that, Wednesday there in September.

And we got, I got, there was a presentation on the Crozier Tunnel, Ellison County, lots of accolades, and the work that was done there to make that happen.

So you guys are getting a lot of pats in the back at the joint meeting.

I didn't know the history of the tunnel, so it's fascinating to just learn about the tunnel.

What Waynesboro and Augusta County are doing over there to partner to potentially bring a state park to the area west of the mountain.

And the greenway that they have over there is all very interesting to hear about.

And then they also, the Athens Express,

So they were talking about the regional transit update that we got today, the governance study, but it made me think of the success of Gus, the app and express that runs from Stanton over to Charlottesville, and they extended hours for night shifters so that those who have to start work at seven and then get done at seven in the morning, they extended those hours out so that those night shifters could have access to the public, the app and express both in the morning and the evening as they're coming and going to work.

Good example of regional cooperation there.

Nobody's calling in to ask questions.

So that was good.

And then the, I'll just call out the CV, the Commonwealth Transportation Board did meet on the 20th of September as well.

They discussed economic development and was it environment or land use again?

Environment probably that was not discussed yet, but changes to smart scale are coming.

and they will be making the final decisions on that later this fall but there have been two work sessions by the CVD now and the NPO will continue to receive update on that.

I just offer as a good last meeting if your jurisdiction would be interested in receiving a good overview, Sandy Shackelford of the NPO is the main lead for that.

I would imagine be welcome to come out to member jurisdictions to provide information if you're wanting to get ahead of

what the changes to smart scale are because it really is going to change who can ask for what and what it means for jurisdictions to get transportation stuff around.

That's all I got.

Yeah, we've got a 70 rewrite process underway.

Still, I think a ways to go, a number of council work sessions that I anticipate council will be having a lot more discussion as it changes before we're in place or something's ready to pass with that process

Playa, budget process, just very beginning, started to get some presentations from the departments about their requests and some of their updates and budget season early.

And of course, probably the big thing, we do not like to meet people boring in Charlottesville, so we've been back in the news situation.

Market Street Park, as always, the part sometimes in the public conversation focused on what is happening, what are the solutions,

But those are in a way the city manager presented in the action plan related to homelessness.

And I think some of the highlights are the city recently approved to be zoning for the Salvation Army to double their shelter capacity, as well as building new units to permit supportive housing, obviously in partnership with Albemarle County and Near Circle Construction will not be able to permit supportive housing units for homeless individuals who are underway by about two years away from completion.

And the city manager has been working

and Pacham to accelerate the beginning of their shelter season, hopefully bringing it up as soon as possible within the next few days as opposed to the end of October and following that and providing spaces for all the individuals who are both at Market Street Park as well as not there.

Our homeless population is about 260 currently.

And then outside of that, looking at other locations in the city,

to identify for the construction of a permanent year-round overnight shelter, which is something that does not exist in our region, and the need for that, as well as locations for partnerships to build more permanent supportive housing, even with Premier Circle, unfortunately, we won't have enough permanent supportive housing units to fully cover the need that exists in our community.

So the hope is in the short term that, you know, once Pocham and a partnership with the city, if they're able to move the beginning of their fall and winter season up,

I think it's available for everyone who's there in the city to be able to judge the decision that the city manager made relative to the curfew.

But that has certainly been the biggest issue both for the press and staff and council kind of consuming discussion and attention for us.

That's it.

And Mr. Goranzo, so what we do is just go and share from your seat in the city.

You might have stole a lot of my thunder, but we started doing something which is an all-consuming, I've heard a lot of English text moments.

We had our sort of sweeping public hearing on the 14th for a listening session where we had 110 speakers in addition to their comments.

And just in case there's any doubt,

I can say that Atlantic County does not have an exclusive claim on consternation.

We are really bored with that process.

It's sort of a little bit of a paradox.

We seem to be getting closer and closer to the end, but not quite getting to the end.

And that has sort of been the major focus of the commission, certainly.

So that's about what I've got there.

Thank you.

Well, we've been having some fun.

We just finally, after 18 months, settled our STR in decisions and arguments.

We finally, we came, Tommy and I actually were on different ends of it.

I voted for, you did not, you wanted to see a CUP better place.

I voted for what we did pass through, which was no CUP and some lighter restrictions and regulations on our temperature levels.

We also had a great discussion about raising our occupancy tax.

And we did a hearing on that.

Didn't we do that to me?

Yeah, we got a public hearing on that.

And we're looking at possibly, we are at 2% right now.

We're looking at possibly reading it to six.

Yeah, I think nine.

The South of Maine is going up to nine.

And all our short-term friends are right there at the plate.

The majority of them are, and the issues that we have are at the unit.

For the rest of the county, it's not really a big issue.

The rest of the short-term rental was pretty much an ad, which the Attorney General did determine the determination that an ad is exempt from any type of regulations.

It falls under that.

Basically, it had to be like a working

It has to be an operator.

Yeah, that's what most cars are in.

Yeah, exactly.

I think the only thing to add to that is the attorney general's guidance

Case Law.

So it really, someone, I mean, you know, Albemarle abandoned it, we packed it up, we moved there to Dardash, SDR to do Albemarle to see what the court system said.

Yeah.

Well, anyway, so we, you know, settled through that.

Go talk to Fluvanna!

It's one of the life-changing parts.

Oh, yeah.

I don't take the pressure off of me, and it's a county.

Apparently, we don't have a grocery store.

What else have I missed?

When you forgot to mention the dude who was

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Oh, tricycle.

We actually call it tricycle for 18 months, Sam.

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and all the way along the road to go down to St. Ann's, all the way to St. Ann's, all the way to St. Ann's, all the way to St. Ann's, all the way to St. Ann's, all the way to St. Ann's, all the way to St. Ann's, all the way to St. Ann's, all the way to St. Ann's, all the way to St. Ann's, all the way to St. Ann's,

In the rural area, the next year, rural around the world, I heard that the police said that only some of the agencies involved in the voice of the world had sort of a problem to deal with.

Even on the tour of them, they could have the public working on them.

I think it would be nice.

We've been working on it for a long time to get it done.

And finally, we needed some

They've even got a tax payer.

They've got a tax payer.

No, we'll see.

It's not saying that.

It's not saying that.

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It's not saying that.

It's not saying that.

Get that term very well.

Definitely.

With all the folks that I've probably heard of, we had a problem with it.

It's around the lake where there's residential and small lots.

And now you have, well, you have to, either.

We just, the rest of them, they know that.

They've been at least ready to say, they've advertised them.

I feel like it could.

It might be playing along with you.

If you had somebody coming in for this, you know, rather than like a real small house, you'd like to go there and you'd pay us something and you'd get a sale.

But now, you get to where you're trying to live, and you're going to freeze the fire, and then you're going to be a gentleman, and you're going to steal all of that.

I've got a feeling that you're going to have to be with us in the future.

You're going to have to be with us in the future.

You can't take care of a lawyer who leaves you with a lot of money and you have to get it.

So, we will straighten you out.

You're going to have to put your money in the resources that you have.

You're going to have to put your money in the resources that you have.

are coming out of DC in Northern Virginia for the month of their retirement.

And so they're, they're buying their homes.

So rest of them are experts.

You know, for years it was, I don't know, at least they wouldn't have been paying to us.

And this is where they planned to retire and then sort of paid off.

And that's how they're using it.

It's a, we mentioned it a few years ago,

Once you get over to the main area, you don't learn.

You don't really learn.

You don't learn about college or something.

You don't learn about college or something.

You don't learn about college or something.

You don't learn about college or something.

You don't learn about college or something.

You don't learn about college or something.

You don't learn about college or something.

You don't learn about college or something.

You don't learn about college or something.

We've got a very specific home stay residence in Albemarle that we've worked on for a long time, and it varies for both areas and for those where urgency is to help the world, and it goes by size and acreage and all that.

And we don't allow a whole house running in the dense areas, and they only do two bedrooms, so it includes how many people can be in there, and if they want anything more, they have to come in for a special use permit.

We do more special use permits on home stays than

You know, so that is what I believe.

We are all in the process of coming to this land of our right.

There are some things that we can add now where you can add something in your pockets that's based on your religious health, which

basically are related to two major programs, two major programs, you know, that and that and that and that.

Anywhere in Albemarle we did an owner and occupant.

Lillie, Paul Molloy, Peter Villarek, and Sarah Hall.

And we've got a whole second home where they've been watching.

But if they're taking care of their, their renter, so that they really care for them, that ain't going to be the problem.

But it's the ones that are attacking them until they find them.

They're trying to be maybe, you know,

She turned around a little bit to Rachel Williams earlier and she said that she had given the phone to him and I mean it was her and Ben's very money.

They're taking care of it for one time and they responded to some of the questions.

We had a good time and we can get good people in the business whenever we need them to.

So, actually there are a few more that we have involved and we think of that a lot.

You know, I have my own problem.

Like, it's the wrong time.

I'm not going to give you one for the win or the bet.

Yeah.

We're going to be having planning commissions, having a public hearing on our draft comp plan before the end of the year.

We'll then have public hearing supervisors.

And everything else that we are watching you so you know what we're not going to do.

And another consequence of that is that we have a 151 corduroy study that we are doing that should come back in November and that will be the sonatas communities who amend our draft.

Congratulations.

So, I haven't changed for literally three days.

That happens in the short-term rental for themselves.

Short-term rental for them.

I lost my perfect attendance to every Board of Supervisors I've made in my six years to the House of Fire.

I'm sorry, we haven't worked hard without me.

Let's see, the various districts would like to send you here.

What else do you want me to say?

There's some constituents that I have to do back in the day, but we have to do things that got me here so often.

Let's see.

Conclave is underway, pretty intense, a lot of compassionate constituents.

I've told them my thoughts, they told me theirs ten times.

It's kind of a receding narrative that all comes from Ernie's district over and over again, just trying to get my own constituents to show up.

They don't want to be able to pay off, so they just send me a text message that sounds good.

Beyond that, that's about all I know, right?

Other exciting things, just zoning them back into the comp plan.

The dynamic of horrible life could change, come January, so we'll see how that goes.

changes things as we go into selling.

And it was about the fastest growing population for homelessness.

It is baby boomers.

Yeah.

Yeah.

In particular, women.

It is not an unsurprising event if you're starting to see this in conjunction with housing becoming so unaffordable for so many people that you're starting to really see this happen.

And I've been saying for a long time that it's going to be a good part for us to look at a lot of old people that once had middle-class lives living out on the streets and we're going to really have to

increase in homelessness in the last couple of years with the majority that are coming from dating versus not continuing are like 65% of that.

We are there.

Next meeting will be November 2nd.

We've got the finance, just a reminder, the finance executive committee are set, which will lead to the annual audit report and we'll be getting a financial audit report.

That's always a barn burner, so make sure you're running attendance for that one.

And then we'll go to quarter one financial reports.

I'll second it and see what we can pull.

No abstentions on this one.

All in favor, say aye.

Aye.

No abstentions?

All right.

Thank you.

Bye, y'all.