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Planning District Commission Meeting   10/6/2022

Attachments
  • 3a CVRHP Update - October 2022.pdf
  • 3b VA Housing Development Grant Update - October 2022.pdf
  • 4a TJPDC Draft Minutes 9.1.22.pdf
  • 4b i Financial Dashboard August FY23.pdf
  • 4b ii Consolidated Profit and Loss-August FY23.pdf
  • 4b iii Comparative Balance Sheet-August 23.pdf
  • 4b iv Accrued Revenue August FY23.pdf
  • 5a Greene - BRIC Grant - 10.6.2022.pdf
  • 5b i-ii DHCD Contract and FY23 Work Plan.pdf
  • 5c i FY24 Projected Budget - 10.06.2022.pdf
  • 5c ii FY24 Projected Revenues - 10.06.2022 -.pdf
  • 5c iii FY24 Projected Per Capita-Local Contributions - 10.06.2022.pdf
  • 6a FY24 Projected Budget Resolution.pdf
  • 7a ED Report October 2022.pdf
  • Full Commission Packet- 2022-10-06.pdf
    • SPEAKER_10
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      That was over 60?
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      Yeah, TJPDC to order.
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      And do we need to do anything electronic?
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      Wow.
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      members, Liz Russell joining us from the city of Charlottesville.
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      You're planning on the planning commission there, replacing Commissioner Soliez.
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      And just welcome and give me an opportunity to say hello to Commissioner Soliez.
    • SPEAKER_04
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      Thanks.
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      I think I've been on the planning commission about two years.
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      I work for Monticello and background in planning and UVA, also historic preservation, also a first person.
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      Oh, no.
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      and just excited to be on board at TJPDC in some capacities in regional transportation and like pet transportation.
    • SPEAKER_10
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      So some kind of new spaces.
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      Why don't we just go around quickly so Liz can have a seat.
    • SPEAKER_08
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      We'll let it go.
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      You know me, I pay.
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      I'm going to read Justin Cowley's Central District.
    • SPEAKER_02
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      Paul, John Rosen, David Wilkinson, Susan Repp, Rachel Jones, Green Springs District, and Louisa Kelly, Jesse Rutherford, Lewis Duska, Tony O'Brien, and Brian Doudette-County, Brian Adortus, John Herring, and the at-large discussion, Brian Kelly.
    • SPEAKER_10
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      O'Brien, and Sam Smith.
    • SPEAKER_06
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      I'm David Blount.
    • SPEAKER_02
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      I'm the deputy director of domestic services.
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      Christine Jacobs.
    • SPEAKER_04
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      Oh, Ian Baxter.
    • SPEAKER_10
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      There you go.
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      Alright, we will go to number two in the comments or matter of certain public.
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      I do not see anyone here from the public.
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      There's no one on the line.
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      Close Matters from the Public.
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      We'll go to number three, presentations.
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      First one up, a presentation on the Accessual Predictor Regional Housing Partnership.
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      Dave, Mr. Baxter, will lead over to that.
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      Good evening.
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      Dave, will you all?
    • SPEAKER_08
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      Hi, everyone.
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      My name is Dave Baxter.
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      I'm just going to give you guys a brief overview of what the New York House of Partnerships looks like to you.
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      I know some of you are very, very proud, as the Chair and Vice Chair present today, but for you to be good Chair for the commission.
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      Now I want to give you some information about our strategic planning process, and also I think that order leads to a whole bunch of things.
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      So the last, and I believe from about January up to June, the House of Partnership underwent
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      That was done by a consulting firm called Sparkmill.
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      It involves engaging stakeholders from all six localities.
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      We have interviews with residents from all six of them.
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      And it basically yielded these four goals.
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      And so the plan itself is divided into goals, outcomes, and strategies.
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      Those lead to sort of the overarching kind of behavior or vision that meets the outcomes and strategies of action steps put to the end.
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      And so if you're looking at these as basically four different
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      We're strengthening the formalizing of the ecosystem in the region, deepening sustained cooperation between stakeholders, and then creating a sustainable infrastructure for RHP.
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      So for those of you who either serve on the RHP or attend the meetings, you're probably not surprised at some of these goals, considering the body itself is developed and created to be an advisory board.
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      But we really try to refine that and sort of establish the RHP as a place where policymakers, citizens, and other stakeholders can come for real-time data
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      O'Brien, toolkit resources that will lead to affordable housing and urban and rural concepts.
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      So these are the four goals in the moment I'll go through the questions.
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      I'll just go through them now, sort of illuminating the actual how these steps are.
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      So the first goal for the housing stakeholder success, we're looking at a few different strategies.
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      And again, I should have mentioned that the strategic plan is a five-year strategic plan.
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      Herview, and so this goal really addresses, or strategies really address the creation of resources.
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      So that's a toolkit of housing policies, models, or case studies that stakeholders can use in the planning and zoning processes.
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      Researching our list of resources, whether that be funding sources that we would leverage for affordable housing development or revitalization.
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      Our real-time regional housing dashboards provide up to the minute, hopefully,
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      and then finally a feasibility study for regional engagement is something that we're going to be able to accomplish within the next five years.
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      Second, strengthening the overall ecosystem.
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      So this is really thinking about messaging and communication strategies.
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      So what are some, not only events that we're already hoping, how do we sort of leverage all of the in-person commercial stuff we've done into really connecting stakeholders to one another.
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      So we're already working very early on
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      Bellman, and the marketing and newsletter challenge to not only have support stuff that's already been handled, but some of these new tools and resources that we've developed.
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      Well, it's very similar.
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      It's thinking instead less a little bit about newsletter and marketing strategy, or how do we create events that foster
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      And then finally, we're going to be looking at revising the bylaws of membership in the
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      Phillips, organizations with folks represented in this regional conversation, and you need to expand the board, essentially, to do this work.
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      We also want to make sure that the funding stream throughout the partnership is sustainable, so we need to find out exactly what that means in the conversations with board members and stakeholders, and then, potentially, recruit and equip and retain staff for our community.
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      And to do this, we've created these implementation groups,
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      Obviously, the Executive Committee is kind of the governing board of the Regional Housing Partnership, which already meets monthly.
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      But we've gone ahead and created a data committee and communications committee to kind of support staff on their journey through the strategic planning process.
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      And so the data committee, whose chair is right here, Keith Smith, has been working primarily on designing for staff what a housing certificate should look like.
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      So thinking about what metrics we want, how often it's updated,
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      Tool categories, and then thinking for the toolkit as a dashboard, what do we want to present, how do we want to present it, and how often do we need it to be updated.
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      And then also looking at it from sources to sources.
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      And so again, these committees are going to meet, they're on an ad hoc basis to really guide staff to these.
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      So myself and others at the PEC are going to be working off what these committees are in that basis.
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      and this is the roster of data.
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      And then the next committee is the communications committee, chaired by Margaret Claire from Nelson, looking to kind of do the opposite or sort of supporting work around the kind of integrating data categorization.
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      So looking at creating this education strategy, creating more types of events, different types of events, and pulling them into our already existing events committee.
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      So again, these goals are gonna be refined
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      I guess it will be refined more as these committees start meeting.
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      And we're working on getting these first meetings scheduled right now.
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      And this is the Rosser.
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      And then, finally, the executive committee itself will be looking at these bylaws, the funding strategy, and the large membership.
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      And also thinking about Virginia Housing provided a grant that funded the strategic planning process.
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      They have a capacity building plan
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      They had another grant that funds, we could actually get money from them to implement what we decided to do.
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      And so the ultimate decision on that would be from the executive committee about whether or not we want to use it to fund perhaps this dashboard, whether we want it to fund outside health, to develop some communication strategy.
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      So really we have these goals, but they haven't been refined in a way that there's really a lot of options and opportunities for all of us.
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      So that is what we exactly do the base task with.
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      And I think that is the roster that we take.
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      All right, so yeah, next steps, looking to schedule our first meetings for these committees, figuring out regularly how to process work at a committee meeting, making sure that we're in line, we're updating our implementation schedule that we came up with as we did our strategic planning process.
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      So for all these goals, there is an associated schedule that obviously spikes goals for change, and then looking to fund one or more of these prior meetings for the first year after that.
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      Great, so that's my first presentation.
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      I guess I kind of have like three.
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      But anyway, this is our event we're going to be putting on in March.
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      So the CVRHP's events committee is chaired by Stacey Penpia, in Balmoral County.
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      And we've been working really hard last year and a half to put on a virtual speaker series event, which some of you might have attended.
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      Had some great speakers.
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      It was really wonderful.
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      Partnership decided that we really wanted to focus on having an in-person event again.
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      And so the last time this occurred was in 2019.
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      What was scheduled to happen in 2020, but obviously did not.
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      And so we're going to be having conditions in 2023.
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      I changed all the materials about this.
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      March 24, 2023 at the Charlottesville on me, we'll be having our second annual housing summit title coming back up.
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      And so
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      We're going to be bringing in all sorts of different speakers and hopefully all sorts of different folks in the region, people interested in housing, work and housing, elected officials, et cetera.
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      We have them on March 24, 2023.
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      And our keynote speaker is going to be Jay Grant from Bliss, Kenton Brooks, who's the new executive director, works for a long time at THD and HUD.
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      Really excited to have him today to lead the keynote speaker role.
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      Hopefully we'll have a networking event at Charlottesville Common House the day before, so CVRHP board members, panelists, human speakers, donors, put it together at that event, and then we'll have our quarterly publishing meeting at the end of the day.
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      There are nine breakout sessions, and the next few slides we'll just kind of highlight some of them, but if you're interested, this is our community speaker, Jay Grant.
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      Over 15 years at DCD and HUD, primarily focusing off community development, tool housing, finance, and regulatory finance.
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      So again, maybe these are divided up into policy, partnership, and progress sessions.
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      We worked within the events committee.
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      We made sure of a lot of interesting, a lot of, a lot of gratitude to Jesse, honestly, for really helping with this brainstorming process.
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      But yeah, these are some of the sessions that you can try to see.
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      So for a policy session, you know, there may be short-term rentals, long-term rentals, college towns ensuring housing affordability within college towns for residents and students, and then a conversation about
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    • SPEAKER_04
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      Greg Powell, a member of the RHP architect as we're working with Park Street Christian Church on developing affordable housing in a multi-site light tech situation.
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      I don't have all the specifics on top, but we're going to be coming in and talking about that project, but also, overall, they have to make these developments work.
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      And we actually had a virtual series about this that was really interesting.
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      And finally, our own Jesse Rutherford will be on panel with Perry Hickman, who's the
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      World Development State Director at USDA talking about, it's our cousin Johnny's session, so how to prevent displacement and preservation of rural communities, really thinking about how we can develop mindfully within rural communities.
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      Then, that's from progress.
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      So this is supposed to be sort of how far we've come or not come in the last few years, since 2019.
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      And this is, we'll have some presentations about housing and economic development, rural housing aging,
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      and Chen Guizhong from AARP.
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      And then we'll be hearing from Jean housing about all their fun and kind of interesting alternative forms of housing destruction.
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      So three empty homes, tiny homes, they provide a lot of funding for a lot of kind of like experiential housing design, especially if that's kind of interesting.
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      So yeah, that's it.
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      Our budget, we're looking to raise about $50,000 to grow on this fund, or at least that's estimated how much it will cost.
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      We've already received $15,000 from Virginia Housing, but I'd be happy to share a whole pack of all this information we can do afterwards.
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      But essentially, we got quotes now from Common House, we signed an contract with EOMI, and also AB, which is crazy expensive.
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      I didn't know that AB rental was that expensive.
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      But yeah, we're kind of moving into fundraising mode.
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      So we'll be working primarily with the South Virginia Regional Housing Partnership for all that fundraising.
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      We have different tiers for sponsorships.
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      So, you know, some registrations that are free with the donation, obviously, you know, putting logos on materials, sponsoring different sessions.
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      These are obviously very flexible and we're still going to raise as much money as possible.
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      So that's the reason we're sponsoring our show.
    • SPEAKER_07
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      Questions?
    • SPEAKER_02
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      Yeah, I do have a few questions.
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      And I think it's critical what you guys are doing here.
    • SPEAKER_02
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      In fact, we were having this discussion just last night at a board meeting, because one of the challenges is how do you educate board supervisors, for lack of a better term, to understand affordable housing, to understand housing in general, it concerns them.
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      You know, one of the items on our agenda was essentially this discussion about does housing cost the county money?
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      We all hear that over and over again.
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      No, no.
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      And so we actually tasked our staff to try to bring some ideas forward.
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      And this is a very nuanced and very complicated subject that there isn't a right answer to.
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      And while there's formulas and metrics that you can get from outside resources and plenty of studies that have done it, as actually one of my colleagues said, you pretty much find anything to support your idea out there.
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      But I think it's critical when you're A, reaching out and talking about affordable housing, but also B, trying to educate the rural community
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      Hall, and Charles Hall, in terms of allowing the growth to happen into those rural communities.
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      So that takes some of the housing pressures off of the more urban communities from that standpoint.
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      And you are definitely, no matter how much effort and work you put in here, you're going to encounter that problem when it comes to the board voting on new housing.
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      In the case of Fluvanna County, we have no apartments.
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      We are building apartments, one with Park Street Partners who got a tax credit for it, and I think they brought a very good operation.
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      The second was back to a ministry type operation with the Methodist Partners, and we turned that down.
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      And it's a very needed type of housing community, but we turned that down both because of sort of a lack of understanding
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      And in the case of the Methodist, they didn't ask for any tax credits.
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      They just basically said, we want to serve.
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      And I'm sorry, they just basically said, we want to serve a bunch of old ladies.
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      I mean, that's in essence what they were doing there is they were saying, look, our demographic is women in their seventies that are retired.
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      This is what we're going to do.
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      I represent Lake Monticello, you know, 4,500 people, many who have been there for 34 years already and are aging out.
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      I want them to have a place that they can go to.
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      I couldn't convince my board that this was a worthy project.
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      So the challenge is, how does a TJPDC communicate that information out to fellow board members out there so they get the message?
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      Because it's great to have Jesse and Keith and other people like Michael who understand this, but it doesn't matter if I've got three members on my board that don't understand.
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      So how do we do that?
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      How are you going to get them to this, right?
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      It's a good question.
    • Christine JacobsExecutive Director
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      First of all, it sounds like we need to be on that communications committee.
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      But really, it's framing and it's communication, it's education.
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      And it has to be tailored to that local government.
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      We can't do a regional, this is what affordable housing looks like, because it's so very different in each of those six jurisdictions.
    • SPEAKER_02
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      But would it not make sense for maybe the TJPDC in support of other localities?
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      One of the things that came up was, well, we can hire a firm to do the study for us as to how it applies to Cleveland.
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      Now, I don't particularly think Cleveland is that different from Greene or Madison or other places like that.
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      Now, certainly it's different from Albemarle, right?
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      Albemarle should also be quite good, but would it not make sense for the TJPDC to sort of
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      asked them dollars to get the studies done so that people understand that this is the real cost.
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      And of course, there's economies of scale, there's timing, and all these other issues.
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      But if we don't educate rural localities in terms of the need for them to not see housing as a negative, we'll still have this problem 20 years from now.
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      And it's a very downward spiral.
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      because all it does is increase rents, right?
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      I mean, that's ultimately what we're at.
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      That is increased rents, which, you know, we know that people that are interested in affordable housing are renting in those parts.
    • SPEAKER_09
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      It's not so clear that, well, three, I've heard some comments from fellow board members that actually believe the contract should be made, some in private, some in public, but it comes related to affordable housing.
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      And there's a stigma associated with it that you just can't seem to overcome.
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      And that's the problem when we're into rural environments.
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      It's not, you know, in Charlottesville, you might have less of a stigma because you're more urban.
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      I don't know.
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      And the rural areas, it's a stigma associated with.
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      There's always a perception of what type of environment that's going to be.
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      What's that going to bring to the community?
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      They don't understand that the teachers
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      in the community, the firefighters, the police officers, the sheriff's department.
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      These are the individuals that can fit in through this type of thing.
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      It helps control the rent.
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      In order to understand the fact that the right inventory types helps the affordable housing, we actually had a project in Kingport Green and still it's the only one I'm frustrated about in Green County.
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      Christine knows exactly what we're on the project.
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      There's a 600 lot or 600 housing development that's terminal line.
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      It was designed for 55 and older.
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      The developer wanted to make that 55 and older as well as normal residential neighborhood with sidewalks with a certain number of single level friendly dwelling units and make it more of a community and provide sidewalks, provide water to the project and give the school like 70 acres.
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      The board wrote that down 3-2 because they couldn't get over the fact that 600 homes were still 600 homes
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      and they couldn't see the variety in the fact that different types of inventory is needed and they just couldn't see that.
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      The reason why they couldn't see that because they got overwhelming pressure from the constituents.
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      And so they're torn between what's right and what they're elected to do in terms of their constituents.
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      And that's the problem with the right to share.
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      It's not just a board.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 00:22:23
      Yeah, but I don't think the board members understand that.
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      I mean, I don't have the pressure from the community, but I honestly don't think there's a lot of board members.
    • SPEAKER_04
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      You know what I think of running into the Belize County, if you might, we're kind of in the same boat here.
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      I mean, we had a big project that did not move forward before I came on board at Parncliffe.
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      We still have that money available.
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      I'm on the board for the Housing Foundation.
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      We kind of have a solution that we're coming out at a different angle because when we do put out there affordable housing, people have this stigma in the rural communities, like you all said,
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      and they're going to come out screening again.
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      So we're going to go at it a little differently angle, gearing it towards seniors, doing this little village and making it a senior living type of facility.
    • 00:23:15
      But the one thing I'm wanting you to do in Zions Crossroads is we have apartments up there.
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      We have Zion Town Center coming, which will be mixed use.
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      We have Crossing Point coming.
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      and people keep saying that's affordable housing.
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      But when I met with these developers and I've asked what their price points are in their apartments, they're starting at 1500 to 2000 a month.
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      That's not affordable housing.
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      And so I keep telling people that what's coming is not affordable housing.
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      And I keep having to reiterate that in what I meet with groups and stuff like, oh, that affordable housing.
    • 00:23:53
      No, this is not affordable housing.
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      This is high-end luxury apartments and condos and so forth.
    • 00:24:02
      But people seem to think any apartment is affordable housing these days.
    • 00:24:07
      And that's what we're running into in our area.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:24:11
      Yeah, very nice to get it in, Michael.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 00:24:14
      As we address a little bit, this is the desk.
    • SPEAKER_00
    • 00:24:19
      Thank you, Mr. Trump.
    • 00:24:21
      So I just emailed to Ian.
    • 00:24:25
      Virginia Housing has done a white paper titled The Effects of Housing on the Local Economy.
    • 00:24:30
      It's a bit dated, but Virginia Housing is a great source, Tony, to help go ahead and do that.
    • 00:24:37
      If you read this white paper, it breaks into our jurisdictions and so forth and so on.
    • 00:24:44
      I'm pretty active in this world, and I don't use the word affordable housing.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:24:49
      I use the word housing affordability,
    • SPEAKER_00
    • 00:24:51
      and any public comments I make because housing affordability is a little bit easier to understand and scares people less.
    • 00:25:02
      Ned, I want to speak a little bit for you.
    • 00:25:03
      I hope you don't mind, but we've been debating the idea of doing a roadshow to the point of the RHB to do a roadshow to the Board of Supervisors.
    • 00:25:14
      I'm still willing to do that.
    • 00:25:15
      Ned's willing to do that.
    • 00:25:17
      We did a pretty awesome presentation in last year's Virginia Governor's
    • 00:25:21
      Housing Conference, that may help us a little bit.
    • 00:25:24
      But Tony, you're spot on.
    • 00:25:27
      They'll need to get a little bit of education.
    • 00:25:30
      At least I am here to help.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 00:25:32
      One thing that I will add that was interesting to me, and I just read this, so I can't say that Adele did enjoy it, but Florida is now overriding localities in terms of some decisions.
    • SPEAKER_00
    • 00:25:47
      That's becoming a common place.
    • 00:25:49
      That's a big, big deal.
    • 00:25:51
      So to put a little picture to this, I also chaired the Piedmont Community Land Trust.
    • 00:26:05
      And I reported to the board yesterday, thanked them for $625,000 for 12 housing affordability buyers.
    • 00:26:15
      And I think that a verbal picture
    • 00:26:18
      I wrote a contract for a unit at 814, the 225, for a single female teacher, Albemarle County, single mother, who was half, who needed the lead, was around about 12%.
    • 00:26:32
      She was gonna lead the area.
    • 00:26:34
      We were very fortunate to be able to get her into a brand new, could not have done it without Albemarle County's participation on that end of it.
    • 00:26:44
      So there are solutions, it's communication,
    • 00:26:48
      This is how it can get done.
    • 00:26:53
      Fear is a big thing, right?
    • 00:26:54
      You've got to get past the fear.
    • 00:26:55
      What doesn't mean to do that is hit people with facts.
    • 00:27:00
      Thank you.
    • 00:27:01
      Jesse and then Michael.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 00:27:02
      Yeah.
    • 00:27:02
      So we did address this in events, kind of specifically.
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      And I agree with that topic of explaining this to a good old boy.
    • 00:27:11
      And I mean, truly.
    • 00:27:12
      I haven't talked in like, not to the best of times.
    • 00:27:15
      What you explain to the RFP is perfect.
    • 00:27:16
      Yeah.
    • 00:27:18
      I did.
    • 00:27:19
      I actually had a little bit more beer.
    • 00:27:24
      And having this conversation with folks about a very specific example, there's development coming up with it.
    • 00:27:32
      And, you know, people say one of your stuff and you don't own your stuff, whatever that might be, you know, in reality, it's usually the same number of people just trying to find the right argument that makes sense for that particular situation.
    • 00:27:46
      And
    • 00:27:47
      I have, there's one very specific guy who I had known my entire life.
    • 00:27:52
      His wife probably made this happen.
    • 00:27:54
      And he went, moved Tyler, and it's a generic conversation, and talked about all the reasons why it was bad.
    • 00:28:01
      And I looked him dead in the eye, and I said, he's like, this, that, and the other, and I said, the reality of life is, you think it's all these types of people who live here, you couldn't even afford to live here.
    • 00:28:12
      And he looked at me, and his mouth rocked, and he said, how dare.
    • 00:28:17
      I was like, let's play numbers because again, I'm in the business.
    • 00:28:21
      And I showed him, I said, you called him right in front of it.
    • 00:28:24
      And I said, you couldn't afford this by about $500.
    • 00:28:27
      And he couldn't believe it in that moment.
    • 00:28:33
      And I, and in that, so he asked me to kind of explain that to some other folks.
    • 00:28:37
      And I said, guys, you are against the very thing you yourself, for reasons, for a product that you yourself could not afford.
    • 00:28:48
      and they sat there and they're like, whoa, I said, yeah, okay.
    • 00:28:53
      And I walked them through the process and I think some of the best examples you should use is your teachers, is your police officers, is, you know, I like to take, you know, the waiters and waitresses in this world and when you start making it tangible and personal and that's where we kind of came to fruition of the Cousin Johnny session.
    • 00:29:17
      and you know of an example of yeah well he can't afford to live here why and explain why this person Joe the mechanic Johnny you know the house framer can no longer afford to live in these rural communities and what that looks like because I've realized people aren't making this person like they don't understand that it's them that
    • 00:29:40
      And you need to paint the picture of, my father and I talked about it, it needs to be a picture of what it was in the 1990s.
    • 00:29:47
      This was that house that you're looking at right here.
    • 00:29:50
      Show the picture, take a picture of that exact brick home that was being built a thousand times in 1970.
    • 00:29:57
      You know, another piece is talking about the Sears home.
    • 00:29:59
      What was the demographic vector for that?
    • 00:30:01
      Take a picture of that home and say, this home right here that we're talking about is the Sears home.
    • 00:30:10
      And you know, I've come to that realization, you have to start making it personal.
    • 00:30:17
      And until you start making it personal, they'll have absolutely no application to do the stuff.
    • 00:30:23
      And yes, when you say $1,500 a month is not affordable, I totally agree.
    • 00:30:28
      And the sad reality of life endlessly in the sad state of affairs is it's probably never going to get cheaper.
    • 00:30:36
      It's been an interesting point when you're talking about Sears
    • 00:30:38
      you know, A, the model home, but also homes that were built by corporations to allow for workforce housing.
    • 00:30:46
      And there's a disconnect.
    • 00:30:47
      People don't understand that.
    • 00:30:49
      How to afford a house and remember the workforce.
    • 00:30:51
      And in Skyler itself, the entire concept of that community was built around a corporation that built all the homes.
    • 00:31:00
      The city of Lynchburg.
    • 00:31:02
      If you talk about company housing, that place was a manufacturing place.
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      and the only people who could afford to build the homes was the company, the company itself.
    • 00:31:12
      So they built all the homes and you know, they were given the jurisdiction to do it.
    • 00:31:17
      They had the means to do it.
    • 00:31:19
      And who did those demographics today?
    • 00:31:21
      It's developers, nonprofits, and you know, all those people in between who are trying to do exactly what was able to be done those years ago.
    • 00:31:30
      And that's kind of my perspective of, because of Johnny Sessions,
    • 00:31:39
      We'll start making it personal.
    • 00:31:42
      And until we start making it personal and painting these images of how it's not, this is you in 1995.
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      This is your grandparents in 1962.
    • 00:31:52
      This is here.
    • 00:31:53
      This is the company town of 1935.
    • 00:31:56
      Until we start doing that, they're always going to have that fear.
    • 00:32:00
      And even if you do explain it to them, they're still going to have that fear.
    • 00:32:04
      That's reality.
    • 00:32:04
      However, board members, and I agree, if they don't start acting,
    • 00:32:08
      This is already a dire crisis.
    • 00:32:10
      And we were talking, you were in an RFP meeting where we had great data.
    • 00:32:14
      Are we going to get that?
    • 00:32:16
      What's that?
    • 00:32:17
      Oh, yeah.
    • 00:32:19
      You get that, you're going to be scared.
    • 00:32:21
      Like when he started saying how much a one bedroom was running for now, I think a one bedroom would be like a minimum of 1,500.
    • 00:32:28
      And next year, that one was going to be 1,700.
    • 00:32:31
      And yeah, that's terrifying.
    • 00:32:34
      And what does that mean?
    • 00:32:35
      That means we have such a severe crisis that five years, you want to talk about homelessness, you know, you want to talk about like multi-generational households and no general generational wealth building.
    • 00:32:48
      Holy cow, generational wealth.
    • 00:32:51
      You know, the Democrats that are truly absolutely going to suffer on top of this is working class people, our minority populations, and also many, even our middle class.
    • 00:33:01
      Our middle class is at this point is living in an apartment complex, building no generational wealth.
    • SPEAKER_00
    • 00:33:06
      So again, if you don't mind, Mr. Chairman, on the personal end of it, we have, we being Landros, have put 23 families in homes this year, this is quite the end of this year.
    • 00:33:19
      And every single one, we hand them the key, they're in tears.
    • 00:33:24
      And all they think about is generational wealth and paying it forward.
    • 00:33:30
      They don't think about them saving this money or whatever.
    • 00:33:33
      It's all about paying for it.
    • 00:33:36
      From the line cook to the fireman to the teacher.
    • 00:33:40
      It's very, and we're going to start publishing, getting that out a little bit out in the public.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 00:33:47
      But the thing is, we don't need just, and I agree Keith, that's awesome.
    • 00:33:51
      But this whole region needs to know, we need 200.
    • 00:33:55
      We need 500.
    • 00:33:56
      There's no need for a short flight.
    • Michael PayneMember, Planning District Commission
    • 00:33:59
      And I'll try to be brief, but this is a conversation that we have to have across the region.
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      One of the numbers I look at the most in Charlottesville is our vacancy rate.
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      And it's near 0%, literally.
    • 00:34:20
      I just looked it up at 0.3%, which means
    • 00:34:25
      Everybody's outbidding themselves for supply that is completely constrained.
    • 00:34:30
      And one of the discussions we have a lot in Charlottesville is around the construction of those new units at 1,500 to 2,000 a month.
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      And one of the things we found is that that is part of it that has to get built because what we found at least in Charlottesville is when those aren't getting built, neighborhoods like 10th and Page, which is one of our working class, historically black neighborhoods,
    • 00:34:54
      Students, because they had more money, were moving into their rentals and developers and landlords were purchasing them and converting them to rentals.
    • 00:35:03
      We built new student housing along West Main that did rent at a higher price point.
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      And it was an accurate criticism that that's not truly affordable housing.
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      But after that was built, we saw in census data that the number of families living in 10th and Page, as opposed to single renters,
    • 00:35:23
      went up by a massive amount.
    • 00:35:25
      And that's just an example of what's needed across the board.
    • 00:35:30
      But we've also confronted, too, that it's also true that that market on its own isn't going to get to the deeper affordability.
    • 00:35:38
      And it has to include action from community land trusts, nonprofits, and the city to get to people who are even making $20 an hour, much less minimum wage or living on Social Security or disability.
    • 00:35:51
      And the final thought is, in Charlottesville, rents for some of the new apartments, which are insane, but in one of the things in Charlottesville, the dynamics, and we're different, we're kind of crazy left-wing people here in Charlottesville.
    • 00:36:17
      But even in Charlottesville, there's a huge fear of building a new development in affordable housing.
    • 00:36:21
      And that's changing, but it's still there.
    • 00:36:23
      And a lot of times, there'll be a meeting where maybe everyone who came to that meeting speaks in opposition to a development, including sometimes just outright truly affordable developments.
    • 00:36:36
      And one of the things we've recognized is maybe a meeting 100% of people speak against it, that was 10 to 15 people out of a community of 50,000.
    • 00:36:46
      And all the people who will live in that new development, your teachers, your firefighters, your workforce, they can't come to that meeting because they don't have anything specific to organize around, but there's still a voter base and they'll still come out and support you.
    • 00:37:00
      So I think the idea that it is electorally advantageous to oppose every development is not based in reality.
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      especially as this crisis is bigger and bigger.
    • 00:37:10
      The final point of the regional housing partnership, Piedmont Housing Alliance presented data of people who are coming to them looking for housing.
    • 00:37:17
      The majority of them were making around $18 an hour full-time equivalent.
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      Some of them making 20 to $25 an hour in full-time equivalent.
    • 00:37:25
      They're making that wage full-time and they're needing to come to our nonprofits to find housing and in some cases still can't get it.
    • 00:37:32
      So, I mean, this is impacting everyone and
    • 00:37:36
      Someone I forget who in the regional housing partnership meeting said you know one of the good framings is talking about affordable housing as starter homes because that's something that's maybe a little easier for people to kind of conceptualize and it's true because that's really what we're needing is starter homes and anyway and I'm just finished with this thought is that you know the areas I've lived in Charlottesville now almost 35, 40 years and
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 00:38:03
      Yeah, I think Charlottesville is losing apartments in part because, you know, Charlottesville is forced to go up, you know, they have to build these apartments down the street.
    • 00:38:16
      You know, we're going to just become another community of, you know, high-rises.
    • 00:38:23
      You know, that's sad to me because there's a lot that makes Charlottesville so important and charming and see that the decisions that it makes
    • 00:38:33
      but the surrounding counties are forcing Charlottesville to go in that direction is sad.
    • 00:38:40
      And then I certainly don't want Richard to tell my community what to do.
    • 00:38:44
      It's going to happen.
    • 00:38:45
      And it's going to happen, right?
    • 00:38:48
      Yeah, it's going to happen.
    • 00:38:49
      Other comments?
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:38:52
      See what you started with?
    • 00:38:55
      So I would just offer a couple of things.
    • 00:38:59
      So one, you didn't mention
    • 00:39:01
      He and I are chair of the original partnership of the board to help with the education.
    • 00:39:06
      We do have a presentation that's in the box if we wanted to use that.
    • 00:39:11
      I would encourage these committees that Ian mentioned, we are encouraging folks who are not current appointed members to their achievements to be involved in those committees.
    • 00:39:21
      So you yourself, if you want to get involved, that would be a good way to do it to get further information to take back to your boards.
    • 00:39:28
      Or do you have other key players in your community that you think have better voices?
    • 00:39:35
      Sometimes board members listen to certain folks.
    • 00:39:38
      We have developers.
    • 00:39:39
      A lot of developers are on our board.
    • 00:39:41
      We have community members on the partnership.
    • 00:39:44
      So anybody who's able to come participate in those committees that could help with your effort
    • 00:39:48
      Evers, and then finally that housing conference, we didn't manage to do the one on the court pandemic yet.
    • 00:39:56
      Greatly, if your county decided, well, let's sponsor the air, let's sponsor the table or something like that, it helps the effort of putting on the conference, but then getting there and having them maybe go and interact, just like when you go to Baco and things like that, that networking ended up with so
    • 00:40:17
      Our RHP meetings, both our executive committee and our quarterly RHP meetings are all obviously open to the public, and we would certainly welcome anyone to be able to come join us for our presentation.
    • SPEAKER_00
    • 00:40:28
      And one thing, Mr. Chairman, if you don't mind, it'd be really great for your elected bodies to see if you can get all of your board members or city council members to show up to the event on March 23rd.
    • 00:40:41
      That will, it'll be an awesome event where electeds can
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:40:51
      Yeah, it's local, so I mean it's not only back at Richmond.
    • 00:40:54
      This year's Virginia housing governor, this Virginia governor's housing conference is in Arlington, that is the 16th, 17th, it's after VICO this year, it's literally right after VICO, so if there are any interested in that, then go on.
    • 00:41:12
      Ian, any final things from the great session?
    • 00:41:16
      Barlow.
    • 00:41:16
      I did hear, and maybe there's a way that the Piedmont Housing, because that RHP, that particular information really did come, but that might be something also that we get some way to get out to people.
    • 00:41:35
      Because that could be part of, if Keith and I go through the presentation, that could be a partner part of it, but it could really have some effect.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 00:41:51
      So, for those of you who are aware, we received $2 million from Gene Alberts,
    • 00:42:16
      I'm just going to give you guys a brief update on where we are, how much money we've spent, and how many weeks we've been able to develop.
    • 00:42:22
      So yeah, like I mentioned, in July of last year, our housing announced $40 million in grants directly to all around the first phase 21 main district commissions.
    • 00:42:32
      Exciting and very new to a lot of agencies.
    • 00:42:36
      But we were awarded $2 million.
    • 00:42:39
      and in April 2020, this body approved staff recommendation from the 160 new or four units in every locale in the industry.
    • 00:42:47
      So there are two developments in particular that have been finished and I'd love to share it with you all.
    • 00:42:52
      So again, this is just a reminder of the three organizations that we ordered funds to have in the community.
    • 00:43:09
      So a reminder, a brief reminder of what the Habitat for the Family scatter site application was.
    • 00:43:14
      There's actually three chapters of Habitat for the Family, Habitat for the Family for Charlottesville, Fluvanna, and CUMOT.
    • 00:43:21
      They are going to be constructing actually the cells of housing units at every single locality we're looking at.
    • 00:43:27
      Five in Louisa, one in Greene, six in Charlottesville, 14 in Albemarle, four in Fluvanna, and two in Nelson.
    • 00:43:33
      And I will share with you some in Charlottesville and one in Fluvanna, but these are going to be
    • 00:43:39
      including a minimum of a 30-year affordability period, including first-grader refusal, appreciation sharing, and final period of mortgage.
    • 00:43:46
      And this really ties into the discussion we just had, looking at 25% to 60% AMI, which in some areas is really a lot of folks and Democrats who are talking about teachers, firefighters, counselors, et cetera.
    • 00:43:59
      And so currently, across those three organizations, they have constructed five total units.
    • 00:44:04
      So we have completed site visits and sent
    • 00:44:12
      Porter of the Way to the Air.
    • 00:44:13
      So we were supposed to build at least 20 units.
    • 00:44:16
      Obviously 160 is eight times as many, but we thought why not try and make this money go as far as possible.
    • 00:44:22
      So yeah, five units total infrastructure.
    • 00:44:27
      So these are some of the units.
    • 00:44:28
      These are located in City of Charlottesville.
    • 00:44:30
      Piedmont Avenue South, just off of Fontaine Avenue, just southwest of the VA.
    • 00:44:36
      These are our single family attached houses.
    • 00:44:38
      I have some of my phone here.
    • 00:44:39
      1,200 square feet, three or four better, two bath, one zero step entry.
    • 00:44:46
      So looking to have folks be able to age in place, wider doorways, accessibility features, earth practice window standards, so we can have a dance installation and potentially a hospital with a solar panel installation.
    • 00:45:00
      So if you've ever seen employees at HATAP at home, they're all really well-built and really welcome to still live.
    • 00:45:08
      Two buildings total with four homes.
    • 00:45:13
      And then this is a 440 charted array in Albemarle, our day houses place development in Piedmont County.
    • 00:45:23
      The Blue Van habitat room is four houses funded by this grant.
    • 00:45:28
      And so this is a 1400 square foot swimming and home, three bedrooms, a bath, a tribal base attached shed, open,
    • 00:45:37
      The sale price for this home will be around $61,000 and sold to a family of maybe less than 60%.
    • 00:45:43
      And just east of this little house, there's going to be a playground and a basketball court.
    • 00:45:49
      Most of them used to be over the pond.
    • 00:45:51
      So some cool amenities.
    • 00:45:52
      In total, this neighborhood, we're not timing all of these, but 26 affordable homes.
    • 00:45:58
      And so, yeah, that's pretty exciting.
    • 00:46:00
      This street, actually, I don't think it exists in Google Maps yet.
    • 00:46:06
      I guess that kind of speaks to the point of this grant really what we're providing is that kind of gap funding so a lot of these units
    • 00:46:34
      are almost fully funded, and so we were able to take that one point of view and fill a gap, right?
    • 00:46:39
      So, that's kind of the best question.
    • 00:46:44
      And just, I just wanted to briefly add to the role of the two other projects that haven't started construction yet.
    • 00:46:50
      CRHA is going to be developing 48 affordable rental units on South First Street as part of their phase two.
    • 00:46:56
      Currently, actually, finally, the first two will be in some separate phase one houses that were done,
    • 00:47:01
      Incomes ranging from 36%.
    • 00:47:03
      You might be familiar with this, it's probably half a minute, but they are going to be demolished and replaced with a total medical team of those in the next 20 minutes.
    • 00:47:12
      And if you're not familiar with this process, there's been amazing and significant progress as a part of this process.
    • 00:47:22
      And that's what we're looking at.
    • 00:47:24
      So, I'll take it from John Stills at the Red Star AHA.
    • 00:47:27
      We're looking to start construction in November 2020.
    • 00:47:32
      State, and county workplaces.
    • 00:47:35
      And the 500-year supportive housing, you're probably familiar with Fear Circle, which is an AP affordable supportive housing units.
    • 00:47:42
      So it's slightly turning excitement in our population, but rental subsidies for homeless adults, and then the rest is going to be for individuals serving 50% or less in-law.
    • 00:47:52
      So it would be folks that are on board, married board, current supportive housing with onsite services,
    • 00:48:01
      So they're almost done with the design of all the drawings and they've
    • 00:48:36
      So yeah, this is sort of how much we've spent.
    • 00:48:40
      And I will say, we're going to be submitting another quarterly remittance request to Virginia Housing next week.
    • 00:48:48
      And so I'm going to be getting back from our volume problems by bringing in other funds spent.
    • 00:48:52
      I think some from HATAP.
    • 00:48:54
      But anyway, we spent about $300,000 of the overall over $300,000 for $1.8 million, and we were $5,160.
    • 00:49:01
      So you'll see that there's, you know, CRI Chamber
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 00:49:12
      Any questions?
    • 00:49:22
      I'll just note that Hopkins Place is sort of a combination of housing, it's got an allocation for affordable housing, and it has to be certified only.
    • 00:49:36
      It's also a requirement for folks that are going to be willing to be affordable housing.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:49:42
      Burch,
    • Christine JacobsExecutive Director
    • 00:50:14
      It's a special meeting.
    • 00:50:20
      I thought it was still August when we had that meeting.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 00:50:31
      It will be separate, so is there a motion to approve the, that's everyone meeting.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:50:38
      Any further discussions?
    • 00:50:43
      All those in favor say aye.
    • 00:50:46
      Aye.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:50:46
      Opposed?
    • 00:50:48
      The minutes are approved.
    • 00:50:50
      And then we have our monthly financial reports.
    • Christine JacobsExecutive Director
    • 00:50:53
      Quick couple sentences.
    • 00:50:54
      Our net quick assets right now are coming right above $940,000.
    • 00:50:58
      That's 8.46 months of operating available.
    • 00:51:03
      Our operating expenses for the last month did go up significantly to $151,000, but that's due to a purchase of a vehicle for the cigarette tax compliance agent for Janet Houston Field.
    • 00:51:13
      Unrestricted cash is down.
    • 00:51:15
      As you guys know, as we have these larger projects, we're carrying learning receivables.
    • 00:51:20
      And so our receivables was significantly higher than normal in this last month.
    • 00:51:26
      But I can say in the month of September, we received enough of those deposits that it's hundreds of thousands lower than what's in the financials you see in Freddie.
    • 00:51:34
      So it's something staff is watching very closely to make sure cash flow-wise, we are getting ahead of ourselves.
    • 00:51:41
      We feel really strongly that we have the resources that we need and the types of things like the Virginia Housing Grant or the Virginia eviction reduction in front of all of those programs, we're not putting any money up front.
    • 00:51:54
      We wait for VATD or for Virginia Housing to approve remittances.
    • 00:51:57
      We wait to receive that funding before we send it out to some recipients to protect ourselves.
    • 00:52:03
      So we had a really good month in August for $2516.80.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:52:16
      All right, moving to number five, new business.
    • 00:52:42
      The first is letter
    • Christine JacobsExecutive Director
    • 00:52:46
      We have good staff from the county reach to us asking if the TDDPC commissioners would authorize the director to present a letter of support on behalf of their direct grant.
    • 00:52:59
      It's what we said building resilient infrastructure in the communities.
    • 00:53:03
      It is a FEMA grant that's processed through vegan and supports local communities with hazard mitigation projects to reduce risk of natural disasters, natural hazards, disasters.
    • 00:53:13
      Greene County is applying for funding to be able to construct a pump storage reservoir and a water treatment plant in order to mitigate future drought to make sure they have safe drinking water for their community.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 00:53:26
      And so they're asking the PDC to offer a letter of support for that great application.
    • 00:53:39
      I'll move the beer.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 00:53:43
      Nelson loves this.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:53:48
      Any further discussion?
    • 00:53:56
      All in favor say aye.
    • 00:53:59
      Aye.
    • 00:54:01
      Opposed?
    • 00:54:06
      Take us to the next one.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 00:54:14
      Yes, we have in your packets a copy of the financial assistance grant from GHCD as well as the year 23 GC program.
    • 00:54:27
      I think you see this every year about this time we did a project in GHCD that we thought we discussed in a few minutes.
    • 00:54:35
      background, a back story on how we get to the point of this contractual relationship and state assistance coming to the PDC from Virginia.
    • 00:54:47
      Each of the 21 PDCs is required to submit an annual report to DACD.
    • 00:54:54
      It's always due September 1st.
    • 00:54:57
      It's a pretty complex and involved report.
    • 00:55:00
      It includes
    • 00:55:02
      A number of items we have to set along, including our budget, the work plan that is attached for you.
    • 00:55:08
      There are reports that we have to make that describe those activities and programs that we undertook in the most recent list of the year that corresponded with our adopted strategic plan, CDC's strategic plan.
    • 00:55:24
      And then we also have to highlight for DHCD those programs and activities that are anticipated to be undertaken
    • 00:55:31
      And then there's a number of other things that are presented to them.
    • 00:55:39
      We are also doing the opportunity to list highlights of our work from previous fiscal year.
    • 00:55:45
      We have a lot going on with fiscal year 22 and we talked to them about broadband, cigarette tax for the established RFP strategic plan,
    • 00:55:56
      Patrick Mitigation, I think we had six or seven things which we were overachievers.
    • 00:56:03
      And it's certainly anticipated that we'll have a pretty long, helpful report to make for this community as well.
    • 00:56:11
      There's a section where they also, there are a number of roles and functions for PC's that are laid out in the Code of Virginia.
    • 00:56:18
      So one of the other key things that they ask to be done is to really kind of crosswalk those activities that you're undertaking
    • 00:56:25
      in which areas you're doing them.
    • 00:56:28
      So it's things like where you're doing different kinds of local or regional studies, where you're taking activities that may result in plus savings for local economy or on a mission basis.
    • 00:56:43
      How you're providing technical assistance, where you're implementing services at the request of one of your members.
    • 00:56:50
      So it's a whole list of things,
    • 00:56:52
      And then you say, you know, an environment or transportation or animal justice or technology or infrastructure.
    • 00:56:59
      So I think, you know, overall, you know, where DHC gets these reports from 2021, it paints a really good picture of what the PDCs, the many great things that PDCs are doing across all of these, you know, research programs.
    • 00:57:14
      So once that annual report is submitted, DHCD will approve that.
    • 00:57:20
      They will return a contract, which is in your packet, for us to execute on our end.
    • 00:57:26
      The chairman and executive director did the shift back to DHCD, and they didn't sign on on it until they did today.
    • 00:57:34
      And then that results in state financial assistance coming our way.
    • 00:57:40
      So PDCs,
    • 00:57:42
      Most of the PDCs, with the exception of the larger ones, get just shy of $90,000 a year.
    • 00:57:47
      So the approval and execution of this contract, the first two of the four quarterly payments will be coming our way.
    • 00:57:55
      So we should be receiving this $45,000 in state assistance here soon.
    • 00:58:02
      That's just kind of a summary.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 00:58:24
      The next item is fiscal year 24 projected operating budget, Christine.
    • Christine JacobsExecutive Director
    • 00:58:31
      The draft FY24 budget was presented to the executive finance committee last month and actually ended in August.
    • 00:58:37
      They then brought it forth to you all last month in draft form for the presentation on that last one.
    • 00:58:45
      We are submitting a balance budget, $45,438 or $45 million.
    • 00:58:52
      Excuse me, got to keep using that one.
    • 00:58:54
      $45,438,497 in both revenues and expenditures.
    • 00:58:59
      It is a balanced budget.
    • 00:59:01
      The three changes I wanted to highlight from the draft that you all reviewed last night until this draft that you consider for approval.
    • 00:59:09
      One of them is the body program.
    • 00:59:11
      As you guys know, we're getting both federal funds through BHCD, but there are also local contributions that are made to that expansion of broadband.
    • 00:59:20
      Those funds will filter through the PBC
    • 00:59:23
      Just literally a check coming into rush and then a check going back out to the private sector partner.
    • 00:59:28
      Originally we had those booked as local funds in our budget, but all of our jurisdictions are using ARPA funding.
    • 00:59:35
      And so we're going to book that as federal revenue.
    • 00:59:37
      So we moved 11 million in local up to 11 million in federal.
    • 00:59:42
      So that's one difference.
    • 00:59:43
      The other difference is at your meeting last month, you guys voted to approve a two cent increase in the per capita rate.
    • 00:59:50
      So that's highlighted in here.
    • 00:59:52
      Instead of 165,000, we will be requesting 171,000 spread across all six jurisdictions.
    • 01:00:00
      So that's in here as well.
    • 01:00:01
      And then the third change that's in this budget is due to the per capita increase, it requires less of a reserve transfer.
    • 01:00:08
      And so we budgeted last month, had a 58,976 reserve transfer, and it is now 53,300.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:00:15
      Those are the three differences between what we saw last month and this month.
    • Christine JacobsExecutive Director
    • 01:00:22
      We'll put it in your packet as a copy of the projected revenues, the per capita local contributions, and the full budgets.
    • 01:00:30
      If you guys have questions for me, I'm happy to take them.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 01:00:41
      Questions for Tristan?
    • 01:00:44
      Thank you, Tristan.
    • 01:00:45
      Thanks for having me.
    • 01:00:47
      I'm happy to take this to the resolution.
    • 01:00:49
      I'll make that motion.
    • 01:00:51
      Second.
    • 01:00:52
      The motion is made in second.
    • 01:00:54
      Is there a discussion?
    • 01:00:55
      I think there's something good to roll it off.
    • 01:01:00
      Yes.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:01:00
      Ms. 13?
    • 01:01:02
      Yes.
    • 01:01:02
      Mr. Russell?
    • 01:01:03
      Yes.
    • 01:01:05
      Supervisor Andrews?
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 01:01:06
      Yes.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:01:07
      Mr. Smith?
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 01:01:08
      Yes.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:01:10
      Supervisor Herron?
    • 01:01:12
      Aye.
    • 01:01:12
      Ms. Wilkinson?
    • 01:01:13
      Aye.
    • 01:01:14
      Supervisor Barlow?
    • 01:01:15
      Yes.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:01:17
      Supervisor Jones?
    • 01:01:18
      Yes.
    • 01:01:19
      Supervisor Reed?
    • 01:01:20
      Yes.
    • 01:01:21
      Supervisor Bruckner?
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:01:25
      Yes.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:01:28
      I don't think I have a vote on it.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 01:01:38
      And our next item, number seven,
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:01:52
      As you guys know, we have three vacancy positions that we're working to fill.
    • Christine JacobsExecutive Director
    • 01:01:56
      We have had several interviews for all three of those.
    • 01:01:58
      We're continuing this week and next week with our second round of interviews.
    • 01:02:02
      We are very hopeful that in the next meeting, if you will, we will either be able to introduce or at least announce filling of some of those vacancies.
    • 01:02:09
      It's something that we are very excited about and thanks to Ruth, who has put in an important amount of time in scheduling and pre-screening and making sure that we get really high quality candidates in here.
    • 01:02:22
      For body broadband in September, staff prepared scheduled and facilitated internal project team and external meetings to include the first quarterly stakeholder meeting, which will hold every quarter.
    • 01:02:33
      Some of you were in attendance in that.
    • 01:02:34
      About 38 attendees will continue doing those throughout the project.
    • 01:02:41
      We also launched the project web page.
    • 01:02:43
      We did some monitoring and learning visits out in the field.
    • 01:02:47
      Part of our task by DHCD for our performance-based admin budget is to go out and make sure the work is getting completed in the places that, you know, it's being recorded to be completed.
    • 01:02:57
      So we did a 101 on splicing and looking at what it looks like out of the field so we know what it is we're looking at when moving to site visits.
    • 01:03:06
      Do you want to add anything to that?
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:03:09
      That was fun.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 01:03:10
      Great learning experience.
    • Christine JacobsExecutive Director
    • 01:03:13
      For transportation updates, we submitted a nearly $1.1 million each street, some rooms for all grant with support from all six jurisdictions.
    • 01:03:22
      So now it's just the winning game to see if we're awarded the grants and we will be ready to move pretty quickly since we did use a consultant to help us develop the scope of work.
    • 01:03:32
      We already know the scope of work, if we're awarded it so we can get started right away.
    • 01:03:37
      The Charlottesville area MPO is undertaking their long-range transportation plan, looking out 20 years, but it's a five-year plan that gets updated every five years.
    • 01:03:47
      There has been a consultant procured for that as well to support that work.
    • 01:03:51
      For rural transportation, the Rural Transportation Tech Committee held their monthly meeting and had a really in-depth and interesting conversation about the pros and cons of rural paving.
    • 01:04:02
      So that was a really interesting one.
    • 01:04:04
      About paving rural roads, whether you, you know,
    • 01:04:07
      There was just a good discussion about it.
    • 01:04:12
      That would be recommended one way or another.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:04:21
      Yeah, right.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:04:23
      Listen, Ernie, if you don't forgo any projects, use district rules.
    • 01:04:34
      Other regional transition plan with all six of our jurisdictions the visioning portion that's coming to a close that's going to be completed by the end of this October will probably bring a presentation to you all
    • Christine JacobsExecutive Director
    • 01:05:03
      probably in the December meeting to look at the final vision plan and then immediately simultaneously working off the government study, which also includes the steering committee, but an elected official and staff member from each of your jurisdictions.
    • 01:05:16
      So we're excited to start that work.
    • 01:05:19
      Environments, I want to make sure to highlight the regular record-racing commission, public's annual conference.
    • 01:05:25
      It was held on September 29th at the Lewis & Clark Foreign Center.
    • 01:05:28
      There were over 60 attendees.
    • 01:05:29
      The themes of the conference were both utility-scale solar and environmental justice.
    • 01:05:34
      It was a very well-received conference.
    • 01:05:35
      We've had really good feedback.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:05:37
      And then, I think that's it for my time.
    • Christine JacobsExecutive Director
    • 01:05:40
      Oh, I promised, as though I would say, the recording and the meeting materials for Promenade Conference are on the RFPC website if anybody wasn't able to attend.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:05:48
      I just wanted me to encourage all of the supervisors to take advantage of the fact that she is willing to help with your comprehensive plan.
    • 01:06:01
      We're very timely.
    • 01:06:03
      I know that we're all seeing these proposals coming up.
    • 01:06:12
      We had, we were having a community meeting for 35 megawatt farm on 355 acres.
    • 01:06:30
      The conversations around solar and the changes that are happening in solar and how to leverage it, whether it's with agribusiness, whether it's with agricultural fields, with, you know, for pollinators was very interesting.
    • 01:06:49
      Social justice funding was very interesting.
    • 01:06:52
      Those materials are going to be available and I'd certainly encourage your board members to look at those because there's a lot of stuff happening
    • 01:06:59
      Soler these days.
    • 01:07:01
      And I think we can ask the people that are coming to us and wanting to put a new solar pond to do better.
    • 01:07:09
      That's the way I reported it.
    • 01:07:11
      The more you know, the more you can ask of them.
    • 01:07:15
      And it's a field that's going to continue to grow as we, in a sense, give up our farmlands to solar panels and so on.
    • 01:07:24
      We want to make sure that we're not losing the fuel for activity there at that lane.
    • 01:07:33
      If you have these solvents on there, it will deteriorate the soil behind it in the long term.
    • 01:07:38
      So it was very, very interesting to me.
    • 01:07:40
      It was surprising to me that we already were there.
    • 01:07:47
      It really did.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 01:07:48
      I've got a little report from it during the rest of the paper.
    • 01:07:53
      Any comments or questions?
    • 01:07:58
      Thank you, Christine.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 01:08:04
      That brings us to number eight, which is the round table discussion.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:08:14
      I'll just get down to it.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 01:08:19
      Councilor Payne, you're first, but then we'll get to some of that.
    • 01:08:23
      Sure.
    • Michael PayneMember, Planning District Commission
    • 01:08:24
      Probably the biggest thing, on Monday, we did formally approve collective bargaining for our city employees, which is a major change for the city.
    • 01:08:35
      and in style regional economy eventually.
    • 01:08:41
      Continued zoning discussions, we had another meeting recently about our zoning rewrite process.
    • 01:08:46
      We discussed in further detail the inclusionary zoning as well as minimum lot sizes and parking minimums.
    • 01:08:53
      That process is chugging along.
    • 01:08:56
      And on Monday, we also got our draft climate action plan
    • 01:09:01
      which is the first time we've had a full 90 plus page document that hopefully we'll adopt and formally adopt in the next month and have that be part of our budget process but that was pretty exciting.
    • 01:09:15
      Like others attended the Rivanna River Basin Conference, echo what you said you know lack of information and timely because there's actually it was a little in Charlottesville for
    • 01:09:29
      building that is directly in the urban river corridor, in floodplains, a lot of discussion about that.
    • 01:09:37
      Unfortunately, they're claiming that it's by right, so the city may not have much leverage to try to guide that.
    • 01:09:43
      My attitude is, you know, I think you could build something there, but we really need to be really intentional about following that urban corridor plan and be conscious that it's right next to the river, so how that's going to impact the watershed.
    • 01:09:56
      So
    • 01:09:58
      Timely, because that will potentially have a pretty major impact on that corridor if they're able to go through with it by right and don't do any mitigation.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 01:10:08
      That's it.
    • 01:10:09
      Andrew doesn't have one.
    • 01:10:12
      Are you going to follow me?
    • 01:10:16
      I'll pause the program.
    • 01:10:19
      So one of our plates, the painting yesterday for me was a mini.
    • 01:10:31
      Postman, big picture, and I had to bring it down one more time.
    • 01:10:36
      So one of the takeaways are a lot of different things that we learned that were wild, like the fact that Virginia will also start a workforce cut from males over 65, where in Maryland it's working women leading the workforce in private working age is why I don't know.
    • 01:10:56
      There are other things like,
    • 01:10:58
      It's a sudden and dramatic drop in hourly wages in Charlottesville, let's say in 2012 to 2015.
    • 01:11:08
      Never really made up for that.
    • 01:11:09
      It was followed by a pretty big change in liquor force, afterwards.
    • 01:11:16
      So we were learning these little facts, but we also talked a lot about what's coming, and the fact that a slowdown is here, and whether it becomes officially a recession,
    • 01:11:29
      Not far away from that declaration, but it doesn't contain that kind of officials.
    • 01:11:34
      But the big takeaway was that no two intersections were really alike, so we couldn't look at it and say, well, you know, in 2008, this is what we should have done, it doesn't have to be that.
    • 01:11:46
      It was a very different situation at that time, I think it's sort of rock bottom.
    • 01:11:52
      We had another thing in the pandemic again, what we would do then, what we didn't know, very different situations.
    • 01:12:02
      So discouraging a little bit, but also
    • 01:12:14
      O'Brien.
    • 01:12:16
      That was a big take-home.
    • 01:12:22
      In the previous meeting, we did show our consultant to track what we were supposed to do about solar.
    • 01:12:31
      So we didn't worry about solar.
    • 01:12:34
      There's another 38 back on this project that's kind of close to some part of the connection.
    • 01:12:40
      So we're looking forward to that.
    • 01:12:44
      I'll save the rest.
    • 01:12:46
      So the folks that presented the economic report are the consultants that are working with us.
    • 01:12:57
      I have to say, you know, we're used to getting all of the board members doing these applications.
    • 01:13:10
      We have
    • 01:13:14
      the information that they sent.
    • 01:13:16
      So it was almost like we were in a course, an academic session, and we were doing essays afterwards to be able to answer to the topic.
    • 01:13:23
      So it's kind of fun to hear that kind of information and data that they were presenting, and then asked for both the board and staff or takeaways.
    • 01:13:33
      They were saying that the idea with the information, if I can remember the language right, is to illuminate potential checkpoints
    • 01:13:46
      Russell.
    • 01:13:47
      So the financial planning and the strategic planning is designed to try to do that.
    • 01:13:55
      So both the staff and the board, as we move through our financial planning process, will be interested to see how we deal with that.
    • 01:14:02
      I will say that the fall of Wednesday after our last TJPDC meeting, Christopher Barlow, I was inspired by you and your interest in what
    • 01:14:15
      There's a pretty good tangent there for a while, but a lot of the help can always be virtual and that we could have, I'm sure that we could handle to achieve as we did during the pandemic, public notice, FOIA requirements, transparency, all of that, and kind of call for that regional effort of all bodies saying that to the legislators.
    • 01:14:40
      There's a, I know a new bill that I'm sure our future legislative
    • 01:14:46
      I'm using it as an opportunity to say in preparation for that, that perhaps this board, this body, could write a letter in support of that legislation.
    • 01:14:57
      Because at the very least, I think it could get our advisory committees and some below the electives that they could meet all virtually, not be tied to two times a year, like the rest of us.
    • 01:15:07
      I think it would be a big win for citizen participation.
    • 01:15:11
      So perhaps maybe by the next meeting,
    • 01:15:16
      We could draft a letter if there's no distance.
    • 01:15:19
      We could bring that letter forward.
    • 01:15:22
      There's plenty of time.
    • 01:15:25
      So there'll be a chance to review it.
    • 01:15:28
      There seems to be some agreement there.
    • 01:15:30
      As I agree, it'd be nice to be able to finish one meeting and start the next on half the drive.
    • 01:15:39
      So I get, especially for you guys, you know, I live in a tighter portion of the earth during Albemarle, but I think it's like Supervisor Andrews to come to this meeting.
    • 01:16:00
      I mean, it'd be one thing Uber to try and prove that we could do it in a transparent way to evolve
    • 01:16:09
      Deere, so we should be able to figure that out.
    • 01:16:11
      And then the final thing I would just say, I want to thank David for the follow-up for the cigarette tax information that was sent over to our board, gave an update from our last meeting to the Almora County Board on that, and followed up with some of those numbers that were coming up, so thank you.
    • 01:16:28
      Thank you for that.
    • 01:16:30
      Go to Dan, Supervisor O'Brien.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:16:35
      Well, I'm happy to report there are no other teenagers
    • 01:16:39
      We passed our master water and sewer plan last night, which is almost a four-year achievement.
    • 01:16:53
      It's a reflection of the fact that we have a variety of different water programs going on.
    • 01:17:00
      We will, I think, probably today we have to work up to our new water and sewer plan on the Science Crossroads area.
    • 01:17:07
      having passed that, so that was really fondly forward for Fluvanna, so that was exciting.
    • 01:17:14
      And as I mentioned before, I was pleased to be a part of the process, but in recognition of this has really been one of those cases where we saw government really move at a snail's pace to get to a point where, at the end of the day, it's in the benefit of all citizens.
    • 01:17:37
      That was big, but we also talked a little bit about the housing issues.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 01:17:49
      Well, that was a big thing.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 01:17:50
      I had somebody else at the moment.
    • 01:17:55
      Supervisor.
    • 01:17:56
      Mr. Chairman, given a point that's hard to believe, I don't have that much to say.
    • SPEAKER_00
    • 01:18:02
      Is it even possible?
    • 01:18:04
      Other than, I can't tell you how much it warmed my heart, the conversation we had about housing.
    • 01:18:14
      This is something that I've been pushing for this body to talk about for 10 years.
    • 01:18:19
      And the fact that we've had that round table discussion is pretty awesome.
    • 01:18:24
      And I'm looking forward to the opportunity to the Ned and Keith roadshow.
    • 01:18:30
      We're a lot of fun when we get in front of a
    • 01:18:32
      I guess the good news for Green is we passed a budget for our water authority.
    • SPEAKER_09
    • 01:18:48
      We're not at a Green County water authority yet.
    • 01:18:59
      The projected start date is the
    • 01:19:06
      to purchase the equipment and get things ready to go.
    • 01:19:09
      So we do cross-treatings.
    • 01:19:10
      That much was approved last month.
    • 01:19:13
      That's approved 5-0.
    • 01:19:15
      So that's good news.
    • 01:19:15
      TreeScape Project did their final installation of their bridge.
    • 01:19:20
      And that was something to see.
    • 01:19:22
      They beat Crane Lord down.
    • 01:19:24
      They're a few, topped the trees off a little bit.
    • 01:19:26
      The current beat, the thunderstorm is coming in place.
    • 01:19:28
      They guided it in place.
    • 01:19:29
      So that's all I'll take here.
    • 01:19:30
      It's gonna be a new bridge.
    • 01:19:32
      Now, Karen Stennisville.
    • 01:19:34
      The other information we have is that we are a Windy Park County Administrator.
    • 01:19:39
      Our County Administrator has accepted the decision as is possible to be a superintendent of schools.
    • 01:19:45
      So you may defer that to us.
    • 01:19:47
      We do have an Interim County Administrator in place.
    • 01:19:50
      That's Bernadette Gardner.
    • 01:19:51
      Some of you may know her from, she's been an Interim in several places.
    • 01:19:55
      She was an Interim before, so she is taking over in a week of cross-training or infrastructure sharing, she's saying.
    • 01:20:02
      And she'll be fully in charge as county administrator starting on Tuesday, Monday to holiday sports.
    • 01:20:08
      The next board meeting, we'll have a public hearing to approve the final step, I guess, of our greatest.
    • 01:20:17
      So that's on the next meeting agenda.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 01:20:19
      And that's all we have this morning.
    • 01:20:23
      Thanks, sir.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 01:20:24
      Commissioner Wilkinson.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 01:20:28
      Commissioner.
    • 01:20:31
      Wilkinson.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 01:20:31
      No, that's not it.
    • 01:20:36
      We're not called commissioners on the sport.
    • SPEAKER_00
    • 01:20:54
      Chairman, if I could add a little bit to Greene County.
    • 01:20:56
      Shout out to Greene County.
    • 01:20:58
      I'm going to be riding a race in Greene County.
    • 01:21:01
      Of course, they're green in Standonsville, so if anybody has a bicycle to support the Greene County Food Bank, it's a great event to come out here and do it.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 01:21:15
      Supervising Jones and Louise again.
    • 01:21:17
      Oh, boy.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:21:18
      Well, we've been having some fun lately.
    • 01:21:22
      In September, we had our short-term Reynolds ordinance come up.
    • 01:21:26
      And we've been actually working through that.
    • 01:21:29
      And we actually kind of gave it a kick and pumped it down the line.
    • Christine JacobsExecutive Director
    • 01:21:36
      And we got a lot of heat over that.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:21:39
      We have citizens that would really like for us to address it.
    • 01:21:45
      Obviously it's a split of 50-50 on it and we just can't come up with the right solution and we want to make sure it's right in some way.
    • 01:21:53
      Hearing you talk about, Supervisor O'Brien talk about the pipeline.
    • 01:21:59
      Oh, that one's my part.
    • 01:22:02
      What are the Science Crossroads?
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:22:04
      Well, that's a Science Crossroads project, which is not quite major, but we're getting closer to that.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:22:12
      And we just passed the $30 million that we needed to come up with for the extra amount to finish that, get water coming through Zions and moving forward with that.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:22:22
      So we're excited about that.
    • 01:22:27
      Now for the partnership with Louisa County for that it was still a few years struggling with this and we had the benefit of receiving a large amount of money from the minion.
    • 01:22:37
      The minion had to move the coal ash and we basically gave them an SCP to move it from here to there instead of charging it away and they were paying enough to give us about 15 million dollars as part of that process which will help that side of the county develop
    • 01:23:00
      We have a limited amount of water, which Louisa County is paying a larger share for.
    • 01:23:09
      So I just want to say thank you to Louisa County for being an excellent partner in this process.
    • 01:23:16
      I'm really glad that part of that 40 year history is that there is a better relationship between two counties.
    • 01:23:24
      And then I was at the
    • 01:23:26
      of the Dremel Bluff power plant.
    • 01:23:30
      It was a plant that was in there, and so they took that plant that was built in 1934 and demolished it.
    • 01:23:39
      They're gonna lay it in the site for a while, and we don't know what will happen now, but we'll see.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:23:46
      We'll be here after that partnership, because I hope that I keep your block for 20 years, three years,
    • 01:23:53
      I'm still hearing that number, but I think we're closer than we ever are to getting where it presents for us.
    • 01:23:59
      But you were also talking about solar, which in my perspective has been a big thing here recently across Louisa County, but especially here in Zions.
    • 01:24:09
      We were, in Green Springs, I was impressed, I don't know what you're talking about, but I was impressed with our planning commission.
    • 01:24:15
      We had a company come and we told them they needed to bring their A-game because as we all know, Louisa County did have a solar fail.
    • 01:24:22
      We had severe, we still have environmental impacts from that on farmers land.
    • 01:24:29
      So we're trying to avoid that.
    • 01:24:31
      And this other project came through and we told them they needed to bring their A-game and to our planning commission they brought a D-game.
    • 01:24:38
      And we unanimously, our commission sent it packing and said no.
    • 01:24:44
      So now they're circling back around and trying to see what they can do better.
    • 01:24:48
      And they're going to bring it to the board, but we told them again,
    • 01:24:52
      We need to address all this.
    • 01:24:53
      We do not have environmental issues here.
    • 01:24:55
      A lot of waterways on this particular piece of property that sits off Blockner Road, which is to the west, you have Admiral County, to the north, you have Orange.
    • 01:25:07
      So it's very close to all of those lines.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:25:10
      So... Yeah, I was really encouraging some of the materials that I can't remember.
    • 01:25:15
      That should enable the company to...
    • 01:25:22
      if it isn't good for the environment.
    • 01:25:26
      I'd love that because that's exactly what I'm saying.
    • 01:25:33
      We're not understanding it.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:25:35
      I would really love that information as we're coming because they're bringing it back to us in November, I think.
    • 01:25:46
      So that's kind of it for me, Tommy.
    • 01:25:49
      I know Tommy's next.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 01:25:53
      Supervise your time.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 01:25:55
      Hi.
    • 01:25:55
      We had a warm-up best for me, but after we funded the sheltering rooms, we had to approve on our public hearing two Miami-Foster district renewals, and that was it for the night.
    • 01:26:10
      It was a great night.
    • 01:26:12
      People were angry.
    • 01:26:14
      Yeah, they were all took a sheltering room, so there's a difference of that.
    • 01:26:24
      where they're having what I think are commercial and environmental uses.
    • 01:26:30
      So I'm going to really start talking about a third thing that you might have had.
    • 01:26:35
      And I actually responded back to them that I think the solution is they should all bring by CVP.
    • 01:26:43
      And that's it.
    • 01:26:46
      I know that I moved my cell right off that we had in one place and three times, both to a house
    • 01:26:55
      and I had to get a condition review to think of it.
    • 01:26:57
      And everybody in the neighborhood was like, why do you have to do this?
    • 01:27:01
      Well, if you gotta get a condition review to think of something like that, that is of no consequence to anybody in the neighborhood, and then you would allow the short-term rental for people to come part of the week, and in a residential neighborhood,
    • 01:27:23
      It makes no sense to me that that shouldn't require CVP.
    • 01:27:27
      Far more so than somebody trying to build an office in the back door.
    • 01:27:33
      No, that one.
    • 01:27:35
      I'm sure by tomorrow, I ain't married to me.
    • 01:27:40
      The ones that want to have a shelter.
    • 01:27:44
      And I'll put it out there because I already know that I'm a former person.
    • 01:27:52
      Beedie, there are any federal use so they should only be allowed if at all by CDPs.
    • 01:28:00
      And of course the ones that we had a thing in there this week, you can go online and they're selling these houses by form and sometimes by pass.
    • 01:28:15
      And then you can make $87,000 a year, lease it out
    • 01:28:22
      to the frustration of the neighborhood.
    • 01:28:25
      And I don't know why we're fooling with this.
    • 01:28:28
      I don't think I was frustrated with one of the two.
    • 01:28:31
      Hopefully it will come back, and like I say, if I have my books for late, thank you for seeing me across the board.
    • 01:28:43
      We're required for bedding practices, and they are in the rural areas where they're on the farm by themselves.
    • 01:28:51
      You've got to get to see the people here that want to allow
    • 01:28:54
      For a short time around the world, 50 people, about that long, and I can't blame both people, I'll stay there, I'd stay up all night long.
    • 01:29:05
      But just, that's, over the last few weeks, that's a big cycle.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 01:29:24
      Yeah, I mean, we're hearing there's going to be legislation.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:29:29
      It's going to be a big battle.
    • 01:29:30
      I think we're going to be able to do it defensively.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 01:29:33
      The industry wants to come.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 01:29:34
      We can put some more restrictions on the government's authority.
    • 01:29:39
      You all are talking about when it's just, I think some of their reaction is based on ordinances that have already been adopted by the localities and what they've seen since then.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 01:29:50
      That was very excuse for years for climate and growth.
    • 01:29:53
      Yeah, I saw you there.
    • 01:29:59
      You're welcome.
    • SPEAKER_09
    • 01:30:02
      So great we did, especially spent L-1, especially referring to the public CVS, especially used data.
    • 01:30:09
      We did that in L-1, and then we went into a problem where we had one subdivision, which did a lot of requests and corporations coming into it.
    • 01:30:17
      As Dr. said, some of they decided to remove, especially used to have been prohibited in L-1.
    • 01:30:24
      and a lot of other companies that weigh their right to work with governments.
    • 01:30:29
      We asked the issue, but what we saw in Greene, and we're a small locality, there was one similar issue, which I never thought of, where everybody was going to and trying to help them out, and there being me, and companies would buy, I think we had local homes in location, or buy different houses in that one neighborhood.
    • 01:30:48
      The 5 or 6 proposals required for the commitment.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 01:30:53
      It's a news that affects all of the neighborhood, and to consider not doing that, and the part to make that affect a lot of the center.
    • 01:31:06
      We require CDPs for things that are, my view is controversial.
    • 01:31:14
      What is happening over the years is just being going on, and it didn't come to it by its attention until all of a sudden.
    • 01:31:24
      just in the last year, so it's tough to do.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:31:31
      What is the average of CDP?
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:31:35
      We can never ask questions.
    • 01:31:38
      I have a question for you.
    • 01:31:40
      My planning commissioner is Jimmy Jefferson, who's a realtor, and he was saying that he was in a Charlottesville meeting, I want to say maybe it was a Charlottesville realtor's or bar or something, and they were saying that
    • 01:31:54
      The legislative, they don't think that that's going to be brought up.
    • 01:31:57
      They don't think that that's going to be pushed off and not that they're not going to take that up and put regulations in.
    • 01:32:03
      He just like, after he pumped it down in September, he and I were discussing that and he didn't think that was going to happen.
    • 01:32:11
      And that's just wondering what your thoughts are, what you're saying.
    • 01:32:14
      Yes.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 01:32:15
      And yeah, I haven't been engaged in any particular discussions.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:32:24
      He's for restrictions.
    • 01:32:27
      He's totally on the things there needs to be something surrounding it.
    • 01:32:32
      But so he was just, you know.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:32:35
      There was supposed to be a meeting the other day with some of my colleagues in the legislative portal.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 01:32:45
      I was not able to speak to that meeting.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:32:51
      Because I'm just, I know we're interested in what
    • 01:32:53
      You know, really interested in what's going on down there as we work on the state of this career with our family.
    • 01:33:00
      I would love for the state government to make a decision that we can't do anything for somebody else.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:33:08
      You say that to your farm breweries and wires everywhere.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 01:33:13
      No one will come.
    • 01:33:16
      Just go.
    • 01:33:21
      You know, I would look at this, this is a plan.
    • 01:33:29
      I would say that we need to embrace technology.
    • 01:33:35
      We have the benefit of high speed internet and stuff where you can set an internet.
    • 01:33:42
      And when we're doing the food meetings,
    • 01:33:48
      It's just like I'm separating and talking.
    • 01:33:52
      You're talking right now.
    • 01:33:54
      It's exactly the same drive on 48 miles.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 01:34:01
      I told the story, your story, to everybody.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:34:07
      So I would be fine if Louisa does not have a good reputation.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 01:34:19
      Well, I think what
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 01:34:47
      I work full-time.
    • 01:34:48
      I learned during the pandemic that part-time, you know, Virginia is supposed to be a part-time legislative state.
    • 01:34:55
      Full-time votes, it makes it easier for you to do part-time, like we were in Canada, and I think eventually those folks that we're talking to in the legislative meetings, it's convenient for them too, and that's what it's going
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 01:35:14
      That's one of the changes that the delegate from Northern Virginia that the bill this past year wants to do something is to not have that requirement for a quorum be physically assembled.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 01:35:38
      Yeah, if you could count the people that participated in the Zoom meetings, and thank you to people who counted on the form, and that's all there's room for.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 01:35:48
      I just tend to think that in our past legislative meetings, when they sit there and they see an Albemarle or a Lisa standing shoulder-to-shoulder at something, I think that's something different than the actual women's time.
    • 01:36:00
      So that's why I think that's going to be a good time.
    • 01:36:06
      All right, we'll go to Nelson County.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:36:09
      Yeah, so comprehensive plan.
    • 01:36:11
      We're still rolling with that.
    • 01:36:13
      Recently, it was monopolized most of my day.
    • 01:36:16
      We had a billing official recently come to Charlottesville.
    • 01:36:21
      So we were filling that void.
    • 01:36:23
      And Nelson had interviews the last few days.
    • 01:36:27
      And we finished today.
    • 01:36:29
      It was actually about six hours of dinner.
    • 01:36:34
      Our internet is amazing.
    • 01:36:36
      We're doing great.
    • 01:36:37
      Everyone keeps getting it and they love it.
    • 01:36:39
      They're having a great time.
    • 01:36:41
      As a result, you know, we talked about the internet effect.
    • 01:36:44
      Nelson is definitely, as a result of that, having seen a change in inventory prices to reflect that.
    • 01:36:53
      You know, I don't know what that means in the future.
    • 01:36:57
      It just means houses are
    • 01:36:58
      In areas that are more valuable, just because we're both working to be there.
    • 01:37:02
      And that's the place you want to eat, play, or vacation.
    • 01:37:05
      So why not?
    • 01:37:06
      We're going to work there too.
    • 01:37:08
      So, you know, we've seen a little bit of that.
    • 01:37:10
      I don't necessarily know what the future of that will look like as the region hits the high-speed internet.
    • 01:37:16
      I'm sure we'll see a slight change of probably the tour size of that region will have a larger impact when they're hitting the tour costs.
    • 01:37:26
      Planning Commission, we have
    • 01:37:29
      We're starting, have you guys started seeing more of a trend in the 55 plus special use permits and I guess conditional use permits?
    • 01:37:37
      Like, are you starting to see more developers in that world?
    • 01:37:41
      It's actually become less of a thing because the market has changed away from that.
    • 01:37:45
      So you guys, yeah, we just got our first book.
    • SPEAKER_07
    • 01:37:48
      All the magic lovers here in development recently, they tell us
    • 01:37:52
      We've gone through so much turnover, not turnover necessarily, but changes in the administration
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:38:17
      I feel like I've been in perpetual therapy mode for six months.
    • SPEAKER_01
    • 01:38:21
      I'll piggyback on that.
    • 01:38:24
      Yeah.
    • 01:38:26
      You know, we had the great good fortune of hiring a new county administrator with experience in the county at the same time we're initiating conference appointments.
    • 01:38:37
      So what that's meant is that our county administrator on her own mission is meeting with the different departments to get up to speed on
    • 01:38:47
      all the things and all the information on all the reports and all the current situations that will be reflected in the compound.
    • 01:38:55
      So as an example, we had a meeting with our, speaking of water, our service authority, with two service authority board members, myself and our county administrator.
    • 01:39:11
      And as a result of that meeting, some things that,
    • 01:39:17
      Jesse would remember are kind of sticking points that seemed like good ideas that never seemed to go anywhere.
    • 01:39:22
      It had to do with, you know, limitations on capacity and potential to increase capacity and things like that.
    • 01:39:30
      All of a sudden, they're all now open to be moving in a positive direction because we're projecting areas for more development.
    • 01:39:41
      We have property that we purchased on either side of the high school.
    • 01:39:46
      something's going to happen there we don't know yet but we know it's going to need infrastructure so all of a sudden all these things are going forward at the same time and it's really pretty awesome.
    • 01:39:55
      I'm very happy with the way things are going.
    • 01:39:59
      I want to say the River Basin Day was fabulous.
    • 01:40:06
      The information was
    • 01:40:08
      invaluable, and Isabelle did a great job.
    • 01:40:11
      And the information that she has posted online is really good.
    • 01:40:16
      She made it really easy with quick links and everything to get to it.
    • 01:40:19
      So looked at it.
    • 01:40:22
      And I did meet with Isabelle prior to that about environmental issues and planning her comp plan.
    • 01:40:27
      So that was a real jumpstart since those are a lot of the things that are near and dear to me.
    • 01:40:33
      We covered a whole lot of stuff.
    • 01:40:35
      And so
    • 01:40:36
      We've built a little strategy.
    • 01:40:38
      One other thing that's interesting is that, again, with the comp plan, we're on the verge of approving a new ag enforcement district in Glass Hollow in the Afton area between Afton and the Blue Ridge Parkway.
    • 01:40:55
      And the interesting thing about that is that citizens are realizing that that is a tool that they actually have to help protect rural areas where
    • 01:41:05
      Zoning comes from the top down.
    • 01:41:11
      This is something that can be generated by the citizens and they can break forth.
    • 01:41:14
      It has to be a frugal, of course, but it gives them an opportunity to be really active and create in the kind of a rural environment that they may want.
    • 01:41:22
      So that's real positive things.
    • 01:41:25
      So I've got, that's good news for me.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:41:29
      I can remember Mr. Galloway.
    • 01:41:31
      Yeah, sure.
    • 01:41:31
      Thanks.
    • 01:41:31
      Well, first, I want to mention that, again, they are conservative.
    • 01:41:35
      But it warms my heart to know that my little girl was talking to Ernie, who, Ernie and I, we came together back in the 1980s.
    • 01:41:46
      So it's nice to know that there's this generational shift and that she got to be one of my colleagues.
    • 01:41:57
      So that's what we did.
    • 01:42:00
      We did also have our county accessories in the process of county accessories.
    • 01:42:05
      Ira Ferm, work to us.
    • 01:42:09
      We do a two-year administrative and a two-year full, we're in the two-year full cycle, and probably the 20 to 25% increase in terms of what we do to equalize from that standpoint.
    • 01:42:24
      So to Ms. Rutherford's point, we have better internet soon, but there will be this equalization, and I think that
    • 01:42:34
      that there is this aspect of rural broadband coming to the areas, which is really important and one of the options of the TJPDC and certainly a recognition for what's there.
    • 01:42:47
      But I mean, that's just, that's going to be a game changer for all of us, including our counties.
    • 01:42:53
      So I think we will see those home values continue to increase even though they equalize because there's
    • SPEAKER_00
    • 01:43:04
      to that, like function numbers.
    • 01:43:06
      So Rachel, I'm on a car association board.
    • 01:43:10
      So I'll let you know on the topic of homesteading.
    • 01:43:14
      We're punted it also.
    • 01:43:15
      We're going to let the state candle that kind of reacted from that.
    • 01:43:19
      Nelson County, third quarter versus third quarter last year, single family detached, no new construction, but up $69,000.
    • 01:43:28
      Median sales price this third quarter is $500,000.
    • 01:43:33
      Last third quarter was 431, but you're still 18 minutes less.
    • 01:43:39
      As far as I'm telling you, Greene County went backwards 2,000 bucks.
    • 01:43:43
      The town of Livingston itself has zero inventory.
    • 01:43:46
      By the way, Fluvanna was close.
    • 01:43:47
      We didn't quite make it that way.
    • 01:43:49
      Yeah.
    • 01:43:50
      I won't tell the number.
    • 01:43:50
      We didn't quite make it to 2,000.
    • 01:43:53
      Check our assessments now.
    • 01:43:55
      It's a medium over here.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:43:57
      Is that better?
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 01:44:03
      So our next meeting, November 3rd, we have Christine, you want to go first?
    • Christine JacobsExecutive Director
    • 01:44:11
      Sure.
    • 01:44:13
      We will go through the annual financial audit report.
    • 01:44:17
      This will be on the finance executive committee looking out for an invite from me to meet directly before the commission meetings.
    • 01:44:25
      We will also do board one financial report and then when our plan is to come in and go through
    • 01:44:31
      the kickoff of the regional transit governance study.
    • 01:44:35
      So we'll see if you see what our next steps on that are.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 01:44:38
      Great.
    • 01:44:39
      Someone like to make a motion to adjourn?
    • 01:44:44
      So moved.
    • 01:44:45
      Second.
    • 01:44:46
      All right.
    • 01:44:47
      All in favor say aye.
    • 01:44:50
      Aye.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 01:44:50
      Opposed?
    • 01:44:52
      Very good.
    • 01:44:53
      Thank you for a great conversation.
    • 01:44:59
      Thank you.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 01:45:11
      O'Brien,