Board of Supervisors Meeting   8/9/2022

If you would all please rise for a moment of silence.

Mr. Barton, can you lead us?

Okay, moving on into public comments.

First person on the list is Listeria Johnson.

Thank you.

All right, Lynn Simpson.

I'm just here to protect my tax dollars and I don't know how much people know about this jail board renovation project.

I think when you're talking about it, it sounds wonderful, but I'm trying to find out what it is that you guys are going to do.

Thank you.

Thank you so much.

How do you say your last name?

Munger.

Munger.

We're doing everything we can to protect producers and educate the public on it.

And if you guys get questions on it, you can direct it towards me.

Just wanted to make sure you guys were aware of all of it.

So, sad to hear it's here, but...

Thank you so much, Grace.

All right, Bill Pearcy.

I'm back.

It's Nelson Knows' post.

All right, Regina Campbell.

This is for every employee.

However, when you compare the headings of the 30,000-dollar budget, you can see that the budget is extremely short and comforted and a risk that they're just taking.

Thank you.

All right, we've got to Peter Bryan.

Thank you for your time.

Good afternoon.

Thank you.

Hearing none, I'm going to show that this is past unanimous.

Can't remember you.

As I told you earlier, my dad always told me I'd come to a rock.

Thank you so much.

Getting your steps in today.

It's been a little over a year since I've been here, Lex.

It's green?

I spoke with him yesterday and we talked about about 653 Wilson Road,

That project is complete.

If y'all have any questions or anything new, I'll take all notes with me.

Other than that, that's what I have.

Well, it's just, is there a reason why the grass doesn't cut leading?

And I think that's the biggest issue right there on the cross over part of it.

cars come over the hill pretty quickly from the other direction so there was a blinking light installed but if you could take a look at that on the corner and see if there's a way that you can include the sidelines maybe a cut or maybe just vegetation, I'm not exactly sure but

You should see that improvement there.

All right, Mr. Parker.

And they did get in front of the schools, so that's, we appreciate that.

So if we can just make sure he's on the list to have that because it's not only going to help, but what I think is not a great crossing right there, but it's going to help those go better because the water kicks out in there quite a bit.

I'm sure I won't want to be in contact with most of the folks in the room.

Moving on to the Conference of the Plan status report.

So do you all have any questions for me?

But first, we want to say thank you for being here today.

Thank you.

How many surveys did you say was total taken online?

We want to make sure that we said that we were thorough, we captured everybody, we reached everybody, so I'm certainly not opposed to an additional workshop.

So two.

I think that is appropriate.

We try to really hit, you know, and we have five generations and their input's gonna be very critical to make sure we have that buy-in in Nelson, so.

And what would you be looking to do these, you know, as soon as possible as we wrap up public engagement?

That would necessarily be September, October, once everything was compiled?

I would think, so this would just be the result of the engagement effort, so the survey, and I'm assuming that would be before your joint session.

So we can look at some dates and shoot them out.

I think that's a good idea.

All of our workshops on Wednesdays, so if anyone had a Wednesday conflict,

And we would be looking at both of these additional sessions being the engagement results confirmation style rather than the roundtable work session.

We're trying to target an audience that hasn't been able to participate yet.

and then finally an engagement results confirmation form.

It can be, you can have some of the discussions, but if you have a specific thing to discuss, you know, like at the meetings, you know, we had recreation, economic development, et cetera, but put forth ideas about that and discuss those ideas can be more productive.

But that's exactly what they're designed to do.

Unless you're saying something.

I was thinking that the engagement results would be good to have too because again as it says one or two acknowledging 151 corridor and 29 corridor as perhaps a little different and making

Does that make sense?

Well, except that the engagement results would be county-wide.

So do you want to do a third?

I would say yes.

But like I said, I have no problem doing another hands-on workshop.

And then at least what we can do is do an engagement with one over at Rockfish side.

I guess we're going to have an issue with folks over here who want to move.

And when we do the engagement results, let's not do it at 5.30.

That was a bad, that was tough for people.

And now people are picking up kids.

Folks who generally ain't got a soccer game, a baseball game, they ain't got more than likely to have an opportunity there.

And Mr. Parr said he was going to do some grilling for us.

Do you have a desired location?

And then we'll do an engagement that does the whole thing, tells us where we're at and hopefully we'll be good.

I'm supportive of that as staff.

I just have a suggestion.

There may be a cost associated with that, but we can look into doing that prior to these extra meetings if the board would like.

We're trying to make sure, like we said, that we reach everybody.

You haven't used it yet, have you?

Not very much, a few times, but not much.

They have it scheduled for September.

So I'll send out some dates to get these scheduled and the Berkeley group will send us back an amendment for the contract to get the numbers lined up.

Hearing none, we will do a roll call vote.

Mr. Raley?

Yes.

Mr. Radford?

Thank you, Ms.

Miles.

All right, we're going to take a quick five minute recess.

I also want to mention that the school division does have a $250,000 security grant that they are currently working on how to use within the school division.

Okay.

That's all I have today.

Any questions for Ms. Bieri at this time?

Could you fill us in with a few more details about the Larkin acquisition?

We had a little bit of a complicated things we had to work through, but there's nothing in our way other than just the two agreeing on a date it was.

Right, and that's the movement of paperwork back and forth to be able to meet that deadline.

To pick out, as opposed to 30 people, just grab five or eight people who have the most info and probably the best info to give, and also kind of help out.

So, I think you're misunderstanding me.

All the rest of the key players in this is a kind of discussion.

I've been asking about that.

The idea that there's some simple solution to get more people to pay doesn't exist.

And we got Robin Houser.

So if it's possible to get that moved up towards the front burner so that we can have these two initiatives going on currently, it'll probably move things forward a lot, et cetera.

What does the board think about doing somewhere near that $5,000?

I would just like to see it.

I think the proposal that I just read from you is great.

I would like to see

There's no way we can really do that, but if you're picking the higher number from three to five years.

Hearing none, I think if you could just let Mr. Johnson know and say, hey, we want to help with promotion, how can we do that?

That's all the reports I have.

Mr. Parr?

Mr. Barton?

Has that been started?

We should be close to having a meeting toward the end of the month or early September.

Now, I do believe we had, we were sending some letters, correct, Amanda?

Yes, just need to collect some signatures from you all.

Have we had any inquiries yet?

Still looking to advertise for that service delivery position and see what we get.

Mr. Harvey?

No.

Is there anything we can do to help the Heritage Center in terms of getting through their last legal hurdles before they can sign an agreement?

Mr. Payne, we're here to speak about that.

I would like to get that started as soon as possible.

Any other directions?

and then we also need to be aware in a school start tomorrow so we all need to be looking out for the buses and increase traffic and with this one afternoon bus route I know especially at Ty River the way the traffic is going to go and changes they're making it's going to be quite a bit of increased traffic and apparently there's no help available due to staffing I guess from the sheriff's department to help out with that traffic concern so

This week will be interesting to see how it goes, but it would be nice if we need to keep an eye on it and see if there's any.

So they are, it's definitely on the forefront of their minds.

Because they're not counted, those are shared.

So I know that they are just recruiting is ongoing and it's a lengthy process for them.

Sure.

So it's making a very competitive market.

If you could read it, Mr. Reed.

Do we have support?

Hearing none, let's do a roll call vote.

Mr. Barton?

Yeah.

Yes.

Mr. Reed?

Thank you all.

We call this Nelson County Board of Supervisors meeting to continue meeting here at 7 o'clock.

All right, just make sure.

I'm Mark Franklin at 723 Shapers Hollow Lane in Roseland.

Every day for everything that I do, I do not get the training, I do not get the tax,

That's all I got.

Okay, got it.

All right.

I think it's something to think about for all the schools.

All right, let's go on with the presentation at this time and then we'll go on to the public hearing for the chemists.

Yes, so I just want to, I think I've received some correspondence just to clarify and you obviously, you've defined cattle as, let's see here,

Now, if you currently own a home that is associated with that definition, you can still do what you're doing.

Got it.

So for the fact that it's your home occupation, this won't impact you.

Home occupation is more like somebody to breed something wrong.

How do you define commercial

I think there's no firm difference, but the main thing is can it be considered accessory to the single family dwelling?

I can try to help.

Do you remember who the vote was?

I think all six of them are there.

Tommy Verheer.

But that's my thoughts.

You just don't like it.

I'm opposed to having special ideas.

You know better.

You know better.

Amy with Blue Ridge Canine.

of Blue Ridge County Services over at 151 close to Nellysford.

My main concern is the definition of self-base.

I guess it's a different term.

So those are my two.

Thank you.

We just seem to have provided a great value service to the community.

Alright, you can come on up and state your name and where you're from.

in which people's objections could be heard and would make sense.

I will now close the public hearing in reference to the Kennel ordinance.

So the real distinction between being commercial and being able to be considered a home occupation is whether or not you can fit the definition of a home occupation.

And so everything will be seen on a case-by-case basis.

I don't, in my mind, and I know this isn't the dangerous part where it's subjective, it doesn't meet the definition of commercial in any way, shape, or means.

In my mind, I don't know what that means.

Typically if somebody is constructing a building

Any other questions for Emily at this time?

Where does this come from?

Yeah, we have two different inquiries for kennels in the past year that might contain things like the dream facility or boarding for the owners when they come, like the service dogs.

And making it that way

And so that's why we then moved it to, option three was to move it to special use permit.

Other options, we had like two different definitions, stuff like that, but option three is what we... And so in that instance, the service dog has no, does not meet R by right mechanism.

Yeah.

They have no option to be here because there's no mechanism to allow them

We had several applications for solar farms that led us to then adopt an ordinance because we weren't even able to accept the application.

What other questions do we have for anyone?

We're with the board at this time.

Any other questions for anyone?

If the purpose is to allow more people to apply and then to make it a special use permit so that every new kennel is looked at, there aren't that many new kennels coming into the county.

Well, there won't definitely not be further incumbences.

It would also allow the public to- It would also allow- Because it would be a public area, so the public can- Yep, all neighbors, all our members would be invited, if you have checks in the paper, it could be a public hearing just like tonight, but for a specific project.

And if we find out it does impact those who are in existence, then we need to quickly make an amendment on this.

It would be if they wanted to expand.

And if somebody applied for a special use permit, one of the limitations you should put in that could be the number of dollars.

This would allow you to look at each panel and go, OK, yeah, training facility and some lodging would be OK there.

That's fine.

But maybe in another location, it doesn't seem inappropriate.

Skip?

I think this is something that enables, so I see that it's a positive thing.

I have no objection.

I would say, so this isn't even a buy-write because the group, whoever they may be,

So we have to change and give them an option to be able to do that.

We've had dolls and kennels and all that for up to a year.

Let me speak.

I wasn't sure you were going to say it.

I totally get the rock and the heart list, but I just, that's where I am.

I don't know what that would look like, speaking out loud.

So initially we presented, you know, the three options.

Yes, that's ironic, right?

One of the other options was somewhat more like that, you know, having separate definitions, but I think there are other reasons for going with option three.

So I'll be supportive of this ordinance as it is with that thought that some folks are going to have conversations and if it is an impact, we'll bring it right back on.

And I don't see that as any more than, you know, a 60-day delay from a fast track, which gives the public an opportunity to review and get a commission option.

One thing we've always been there to do is hunt and they just want you to step in that business and have it and you know I just don't agree with that.

Jesse, I assume by here we do not take any comments from the public.

I'd like to make a motion.

And if I could, I'd like to move that we adopt ordinance 0-2022-02, amendment to the code of Nelson, Virginia, appendix A zone 4.

There's a motion.

Second.

It's not about anything else other than that.

Then why did they take it away from the ag district?

That's what I was saying.

My heartburn is because it took away the biorite from the ag.

Can we add, keep the biorite and ag, but add the change in definition of chem?

You can't put the change in the history.

I'm currently trying to find the dental ordinance with all three options that we originally started with.

It's a total different thing.

As I pull it up, I don't remember the exact options we had, but where we started with initially was adding another definition for panel, keeping the original, and adding another definition that was broader, and making that a special use permit, but that's not what the Office of Site and Commission wanted us to get forward with.

Amanda, do you remember which one it was?

I'm thinking it was June.

I don't think so.

And we discussed it in here.

Dylan presented it.

Is that the one there?

Yes.

Amanda, you in June?

And so what was given to you guys was options one and two, or option three, or requesting for information recommendation.

It's five dogs a war.

That's not 50 or 100.

So that especially is going to require anything more than five dogs, essentially?

Well, the kennel would be, I think, any more than five dogs?

The first option?

It's listed as any more than five dogs.

you know we can also send this back to the planning commission again this would put us off another two months of trying to do this and i know we when we went through it we picked option three last time and we didn't really have any any folks who were concerned about it and i talked to a couple of our folks you know they were held harmless in the situation as far as now in my opinion

And we're not accepting that definition.

But at the same time, it's allowing a mechanism so that these other groups can come in and do something here, which is some of this really good stuff.

Is there any more discussion that everybody wants to have?

What?

Because people really want to have a change.

All right, we've got to call the order, Mr. Rudier.

That's all.

Could it?

Could it?

Could it?

Could it?

Could it?

Could it?

All right, profile vote.

I don't know what you did.

Yes, you did.

Mr. Martin, yes.

No.

Mr. Reed.

Yes.

Mr. Rutherford.

Any opposition?

Thank you very much.