Board of Supervisors Meeting   4/12/2022

You're also the only guy, so I'll give you a little bit of extra.

Are we been marked off where they'd be running down through Front Street?

Ask him what happened.

We need something done to the water lines and sewer lines here in Lovingston.

Thank you.

The best thing to do is replace the lines, but it's going to cost them, you know, it's going to cost them expensive.

Anyways, I will make sure I continue that correspondence with them.

It's a good thing.

Service chlorine needs to hop on.

I'll carry the message.

Let's do a roll call vote.

Mr. Harvey.

Yes.

Now, we were kind of hoping to get across the cup today.

Mr. Wood will talk a little bit more about what's been built, what's being built, and what's coming up in the future.

So again, we moved pretty quickly.

So this is...

Every chance you get when you talk to somebody from ATCO, tell them send some extra crews down.

So you can't do that, go up 56 until the poles are in there?

We're working.

The folks on the calls with us, I think, from ASCO understand the urgency, but they're having a problem getting corporate support.

With that, I'm going to let Galen real quickly talk to you about the steps again, just to remind everybody, including the public, about what it takes to get this built, and then we'll be here for any questions.

We'll be glad to take any questions.

Thank you guys so much.

We'll be back with updates every couple months until we get this finished and hopefully we'll stop giving you updates before you stop at any other county.

I'm just curious, how many of the cares, homes, and businesses from last year still don't have

But the ones who signed up last year, we should be finished, other than that little group opening up, I'm sure we should be catching up.

Any idea when Amanda's mom is gonna have an internet

Okay.

That's good.

If you can keep from cutting the lines, watch for dolphins.

And shooting the lines, too.

So we need to remind people, first of all, you shouldn't be shooting at the power line.

But don't shoot at the bottom.

Last question, does Melissa Gaye still work here?

Yes, absolutely.

ACRJ, a million dollar question.

Before I give you a line, I know that he was retired here, and I just want to say thank you to the Lord for his support over the years.

I'm here today to talk about Regal Hill's renovation and expansion.

Regal Hill served three years

Current authorized staff is 161 employees and renovation and expansion area is approximately 56,000 square feet and will be contained within the current facility is 150,000 square feet.

How did we get here?

Why did we wake up, you know, a few years ago and say I want to expand and renovate our entire jail?

It was a slow process here.

In 2019, I had identified several major issues for the board that we didn't have as quickly as possible.

We paint 400% a year because the moisture in the building and the paint doesn't adhere.

Those architects presented the theory-based directions plan to the board in December of 2041.

So at that time, we met to submit a resolution to the state indicating we do intend to seek 25% reimbursement for water.

So the good thing is we don't need to add that.

Can I ask why?

One of those reasons was, they had to pay to find the court costs.

We then went to the jail as soon as we said, you guys gotta stop walking these people up, pay to pay to find the court costs and drive off suspended operating life.

Spits out a nice bar graph and says if you implement these programs as an individual, you're going to mitigate why they continue to commit crimes.

and Jeff Wysocki.

Then again, mental health and segregation, it doesn't need to be improved.

They make mental health, 67% are inmates.

We have some of that now that we like to use a lot more.

It's very difficult for us to get on top of the mold issues that we have inside of us.

I want to improve it.

As Nelson County knows, recidivism and high crime has a real cost to it.

Hachworth of hallways and office space and cell blocks that is not being reduced to where it was terribly efficient.

It requires more people to be staffed than for otherwise built and designed more efficiently.

So I'm going to let Tony come here to talk about the project planning and dining construction schedule.

That would happen in about June 2023.

Why that date?

And we are estimating that it's going to be about 15 months, 16 months to complete the construction.

It will also involve some significant renovations to the existing facilities.

So the total estimated cost for the facility, for the localities is about $36.7 million.

That service is allocated based on what county share of inmate pays, that the entire of the inmates is what percentage of inmates you have inside of jail, the percentage of the debt service that you will be responsible for.

So FY 23, this up here, I've already submitted my budget for

For total cost to Nelson County for operation debt service, $1,641,000.

If you look at additional $350,000 in the next 20 years, it's a cost to Nelson County.

And how is this process going to work?

Toby, he has no experiences with that.

And because there were no increase, they said, we don't need to review that.

What does that mean?

About process, about design, or any other issues.

How many mental health and segregation beds

That's true.

There's not a lot of excess of property in that jail.

I know a long answer to a brief question, but seven was the answer.

So which is to say there will actually be 14 additional beds that are not included in total that would be vacancies in the other beds while someone is being pulled out from mental health incarceration.

they would no longer be used as segregation they do not meet the needs of the jail and they're not meeting the criteria of the jail standard so we would also be removing them because they are not part of general population because of segregation we didn't discuss that as far as we're going to be demolishing segregation so I think there's eight or nine of those existing segregation beds that will also be taken off our income so the net add of beds

So there actually is room for eight more.

Yes, sir.

This billboard is all that can be used for it.

Absolutely.

And I understand that's a short-term scenario.

Right.

Any other questions?

We're happy to provide any more tours to anybody, citizens or members, anyone you think may be interested to reach out to me.

I'm flexible with that.

We'll be coming back before then, but at some point, we'll come back for an ask, an actual approval.

But we have to come back to solve people's life to answer the questions we have, certainly.

What is it, I guess, as far as not becoming half the president of the job, the state's president?

It takes an only limited number of inmates at this point, but folks in our jail actually have a greater percentage of out of compliance than we have currently.

We'll actually create more room in the Department of Corrections.

Well, that would be a good question in general, Senator.

Regional jail superintendents and sheriffs, every year we support those bills on the half of our boards and they did not make it out of them.

It should be switched over as soon as possible, especially if they've got those sheriffs.

It should be held on account.

What percentage of the inmates at the jail spent their time incarcerated at the jail and not at prison?

85%?

80% of the people in jail start there and finish there.

Exactly.

Right.

A. J. Rieffel, John F. Rieffel, John F. Rieffel, John F. Rieffel,

but the thing that is right so any program you would have for these inmates they're good yes sir and now our average length of stay is 60 days for men average people come in the public for a few hours

So even if they're not there long enough to get it off, we work with the community to keep

So that's one thing that the existing facility suffers from is they don't have the adequate space for many of the classes and programs that the jail and the community wouldn't put on.

I encourage the other members of the board and staff to get a chance to see what's there and what your plans are for the future.

That was a long drive for you.

Good.

Right, you got it.

So when do we have to vote on something?

I'm happy to come back.

That's fine.

I believe that

I'm attorney for the Albawach Law School Briefing Jail, which is at the bottom of the board.

Got it.

I've got a big problem today.

I understand.

Thank you.

And when we present the draft and the six-year plan, I will revise those again and put any roads up here that any of your constituents have brought to you that won't be put on this list.

Anything that's old is stuck in there.

Yes.

Yes.

You tagged in last year.

You told me this is our priority.

No.

I just want to get this out in front of the board in preparation of our six-year plan here.

We can just toss them out if we want.

I'm going to throw a couple of rows out there.

That's what we've got to work with.

Would you rather that?

Well, however you all want, whatever procedure you want in place to submit, to get you that information is fine.

And then we'll have our work session for next month to see which ones we want to keep up.

Public hearing.

Well, we're going to be setting a public hearing to add to that list, correct?

All right, we have them.

All right, we'll do it then.

And we're good right now, because we were fortunate that we characterized selling profits last year, and that's exactly what it took to allocate the funding for this current revision that we're putting together now.

All right.

OK.

So at this time, we just need to

We had to schedule public hearing today which was not a statement.

We can add to the list that night is there a time frame after that that we need to...

So as far as wanting to approve the six-year plan, you can do that.

Unless there's something in there, somebody different happens to make you want to change anything on those first seven goals that was already in the plan.

Yeah.

Right.

And we can figure that out after that meeting to see if any constituents come up with any results.

Those boys would not do that because those people have already worked with them.

Those are the ones that are in line from Joseph.

Those are the ones we've been talking about, right?

They can be adjusted.

So let's go ahead and schedule our public hearing.

I would like to move that we adopt resolution R. 2022-22, Nelson County Board of Supervisors authorization for public hearing for fiscal year 23-28, secondary six-year rule plan and construction priorities.

Roll vote.

Mr. Harvey.

Mr. Barton.

Mr. Reed?

But I know you've got a zillion things to do.

I was told last week they're hoping to finish up this coming week, hopefully, but that was what I was told that by the end of next week we'll have enough.

I was going to say it sounds like good news, thank you.

It's going to have a lift to get that brush up.

Let me think of this part.

Okay.

400 tons in-ball, number 41A7, on 9 of those plants.

Now, will the cow mower that we have on this issue, will that take care of that problem area too?

All right.

I do not have anything at this moment.

Thank you.

All right, moving on to reports, Mr. Carter.

And the application deadline for appeals is this Friday, the 15th.

Do you remember how many we've had?

The way I took it was somewhat at the heart of how they revamped the plan and moved forward with potential zoning changes proposed before.

I've been contacted by people wanting to know when they should start providing input but also by some local non-profits about having certain data available for the first round of data collection.

They do have, you know, they will have planning duets planned for the various areas of the county, but that's sometimes wrong.

Okay, but if you did get an updated timeline on the original ones with the original application, if you could send that around.

I'm hoping that we will interview if it's two of those firms next week or the following week and then make a recommendation to the board.

Yeah.

So the only thing we can do is encourage them to be as proactive as possible about that.

I just can't believe we kept told it was 500-plus.

That's the input both from Jeff Brantley and from George Miller.

Well, maybe at some point if it's a supply problem, then you may be looking at another resource.

George said they were definitely trying to make it.

Yeah, exactly.

I don't think they're resting on it, but it's basically a supply chain issue.

Oh, yeah, of course.

Great.

Mr. Harvick with me.

No reports, I've got it corrected.

I don't have anything other than PDC has a lot of work with RHP talking about affordable housing and of course a lot of compliments to our executive there, Christine.

She's been starting to get a full, filling out the staff goals that are going to be, so she's done a great job with that.

It is the MACA Board of Directors.

We have, here's the two applications, Mr. Sandquist is here today, and another gentleman.

I'd almost do it.

She highly recommended Mr. Stankquist and hope that the board would consider his appointment so that you may work with them as soon as possible.

All right, so at this time, do we have a motion for somebody today?

Mr. Sherman, I'd like to move that Chris Sandler must be appointed to the NACA board of directors.

Mr. Reed?

and we have I think somewhere around 10, maybe a few more than that.

We have 11 below, definitely as of today.

Yes, and hopefully, yeah.

When we get them all together, once we have all the applications together by Friday, then we can give a little thumbnail of each one.

So then you'll know

Mr. Reed, you said you had one.

The only problem with that is that if you mutter something, someone's gonna hear you.

But I don't know if that's a bad thing.

We might sacrifice that for... We need to practice.

We need a little sign that Amanda can push a button on.

So when we start put the microphones right here.

I just did want to make sure that the continuation of our meetings do make our win be a stream.

Right there.

Alright.

So we're going to go ahead with open public comments.

So first item on the agenda is Special Use Permit 517, Antique Craft or Gift Shop.

The property is proposed to be accessed by a new entrance on Route 151.

An applicant will be required to have an entrance designed by their engineer and approved by VDOT.

There is a presentation that they provided that's in your packet and they can present it for you tonight as well if you'd like to see it.

That's fine.

Sorry.

All right, if you could state your name and address for the record.

I'm currently at 603 Nettle Court, Charlottesville, Virginia.

And yeah, thank you for being here to present.

Are there any questions?

Hearing none, thank you so much.

OK.

I've got some questions for Ellen.

So I'm just opening this up to you to get your opinion.

I'm not aware of any other craft type of gallery shops in the fourth floor.

I'm just saying that

Thank you.

I think this NC craft workshop would be a great complement to the area potentially, but we could get some actions from the board on Pathways Board.

Kraft.

Hearing no discussion, we do roll call vote.

Mr. Barton?

Yes.

Mr. Parr?

Yes.

Mr. Reed?

Yes.

Mr. Rutherford?

All right, moving on to special use permit 406, campground.

Great.

So, Dylan, is there any other questions for the staff?

So the health department's going to ensure that they have ways to do what they're doing.

I felt that they could come to a permitting.

Correct.

Any other questions for Bill?

What I noticed on a site visit with two different residents that contacted me about, which was that there was a camper part by Honey Lunge that was the kind of pipe discharging directly into a ditch on the side of the road.

They did not mention it.

It's not really a question for you, it's a concern.

That's a reformable condition.

If it was something that came up.

Yes, Mr. Mann, you have nothing good to hear.

Teresa Mann, 1-3-65.

Yeah, come forward.

Teresa Mann, 1-3-65.

And that's the only one that has a pipe in it.

Will you have any disposal facilities on site?

I do not know why he asked that, but he will be taking it.

Thank you.

Thank you.

It is in my district, but it would be proper.

Mr. Chairman, I move that we approve special interest permit 4.06, Camp Randall, former Brett Bucknane, and from the Law Department.

Hearing no discussion, we can go and do a roll call vote.

Mr. Parr?

Yes.

Mr. Ralston?

Thank you, Mr. Mayor.

Alright.

Resoning 552A1 to B1, consideration of rezoning application requesting county approval from A1 Agriculture to B1 Business.

At their meeting on March 23rd, the Planning Commission voted 6-0 to recommend approval of this application to the Board, and there was one speaker at the public hearing in support.

Hearing no discussion.

Mr. Reed?

Yes.

Mr. Barton?

Yes.

Mr. Arthur?

Alright, moving on to now rezoning number 553B1R12M2.

At their meeting, the Planning Commission moved it six to zero to recommend approval of this application as well.

The applicant, Ray or David, you all want to come up and say anything?

My name is Ray Ramsey.

I'm here at Nellysford.

The goal is to turn the mill and have all of them come out in this direction where the new building is going.

We can do everything in-house and stay off the highway because as you know the highway isn't getting more busy I think.

So that's the main goal worth it for this project.

Do we have a motion to do that?

I move to approve RMC 550-30.

Hearing no discussion, let's go ahead and have a vote.

Mr. Ruppert?

Is that done?

An applicant has a presentation for you this evening as well.

Anything you see in green that doesn't have houses on it would be preserved as open space or recreation space for folks who live in the community.

There's a house down there.

And they've been neighbors and they have a sense of community.

As folks in the subdivision would, they just kind of want a home.

And doing it with traditional means is just really not attainable at this moment in time.

So,

If you're not happy to answer questions, of course, then the public will have some questions.