Board of Supervisors Special Meeting - VDOT SSYP Worksession   4/7/2025

I'm going to open this special public meeting on our VDOT secondary six-year plan and turn the floor over to Mr. Thornton from VDOT.

And then the 84 687 and tele fees is being put in the balance entry account for the county wide rural additions.

Good job!

We need a motion to approve it.

So, Poplar Avenue.

Yes.

June, after June is the next fiscal year.

And so everything should be completed right around spring of next year.

Mr. Lorden, if you could remind me what tele-fee is.

So then those funds are put back into the six year plan for the localities.

What do you want to talk about?

How they can get to where they're at now to where they can get to tar and chip.

That's the one he wants to talk about.

Ding, ding, ding, ding.

It's up to you.

The way I understood it, there was an easement that was still in question, so yeah.

There may be some easements, like I don't think the entirety of Bohanan would be on there just yet, but there is some length of it that could be done.

It's something else, Retreat Road or something.

He's talking about when you get into the end and hook a right.

So it would have to, the state maintained roads have to connect.

Is that not still correct?

Yes, sir, Ms. Barnes.

So it really shouldn't be on here.

We'll take it off.

about Nana Burton Road, up in that area.

Thank you.

I'm done guys.

Since Midway Lanes slated available funding at $96,000, do you want to officially take it off?

Yes.

Is that a motion?

Yeah, I move that we take it off Midway Lane.

We need to have a meeting.

Hey, my driveway if you want.

Well, let's take it off and then we'll answer that question.

I'm trying to be a team player board member.

Now we can ask that question.

We don't have to put it can we just where can we store it because this is not happening to

or Countywide Engineering and Survey.

Mr. Chairman, I think putting in the Countywide Rural Additions would be the best place to do it.

We got a bunch of money in there right now.

But we ain't got enough to do Dusty Road.

We get Dusty Road in there.

But where would you like to see the money?

Of course.

But we like wise counsel.

You can move it and then next year if there's a priority that comes up or something that comes up throughout the year that a study that needs to be done or something in advance of smart scale, you could pull it from the traffic services or engineering and survey.

And you don't have the money until 29 and 30 anyway.

There's some money in each one of those accounts and if the board so chose and they wanted to move some of that current funding around, you could do that as well.

Do you want to make that a motion?

Second for Dusty Ruth.

There's where we put it, Mr. Thornton.

So with this draft plan what I will do is I will have these edits made and when you get the draft plan the board will just need to do a resolution to advertise for a public hearing once we've made these modifications.

Y'all can thank me for being a team player.

Yeah, that's right.

I see that West Green Springs Road is at the top of the list 617 and I just want to make sure that that boundary adjustment to the Chisholm's property that it's not going to go past that.

I don't think that it's

Is that correct?

However, the legislation did change this year.

Okay, so now it's more flexible.

But I do need a recommendation on the six year plan from the board if you just want to use it for unpaved road maintenance to just basically say that you want that project change to an unpaved road maintenance project versus a rural rustic.

So you say there's money left over when you don't do hard surfacing?

Is it cheaper to do that?

And then anything that was left over from doing that, it would just fall down the list.

Well, and I don't believe that these neighbors on this road were in love with the idea.

I'm happy with that.

So if you just want to make a motion to not have it be a rural rustic.

Not have it be a rural rustic if someone wants to second it.

Mr. Thorton, we're giving lots of money back.

I'm curious, is there any money for litter pickup from VDOT?

for a six-year plan?

But I'm just curious.

Not really, sir.

There's no way that VDOT can clean up roads.

However, the Adopt-a-Highway program is the next best partnership that we have to remove litter from the road.

My area headquarters guys do pick up the trash.

I was going to say, I've seen you guys down the little back roads picking trash up.

It's just across all the roads in Louisa County, four or five people a day.

No, hold on.

Okay.

Call it a nightmare.

So the issue from the Central Virginia Regional Jail is the security level of the prisoners, but I will quote because we just got this email.

What Friday, I think, Mr. Goodwin.

So the answer is maybe.

That'd be great if we can.

So there is a chance.

Well, I appreciate you following up on that, Mr. Chairman, and I hope that we can make that happen.

Mr. Chairman, I have a question.

It was a pretty significant amount.

No, it was extremely expensive.

Can you just elaborate on that a little bit?

What do you charge?

Their names on it and their phone numbers on that.

That's what it says.

So if you're going out to pick them up, does VDOT try to recoup that expense?

The fine is about $100 per sign.

50 x 100 is $5,000.

But then you have to prove that they were the ones that put it out there, how they got put out, things like that.

So it'd be pretty easy if you got 50 signs that are for one carpet cleaning company that popped up over the weekend.

Jesse Reynolds.

Those are flooding in the lake.

I'm sorry.

You've never seen one of my construction sites.

I've seen the wire out in the middle of 522, and it could damage the equipment.

Mr. Kuhn and I had worked a little bit on that a couple of years ago.

But Mr. Kuhn had been doing some research for me on

I have to double check the code again, but I believe once you collect them, if you wanted to use them for

Things like that.

I have a couple other questions if this topic is... We have 31 minutes.

I like it.

If you could check on that and see how we can fix that, that would be great.

Thanks.

Well, since we are kind of moving in and we may just...

Just finish up the quarterly update.

Are there any plans, especially on the Mount Pleasant Road area, any plans to do any significant shoulder work or upgrades to Mount Pleasant or Mansfield Road any time within the next two to three years?

I know for the Mansfield section that is on the paving schedule, but I believe it's probably three or four years out before any kind of significant work would be done on that road.

I would fall into the county-wide engineering survey.

If there hasn't been a count, then certainly you can request one and you can use county-wide engineering and get the traffic study done.

But if it'd be a traffic study, should it be a cost to the county coming out of our VDOT?

Oh, the six-year plan, yes.

With the other option, the Sheriff's Department has a speed limit trailer that tells you your speed limit, but it also monitors the number of trips per day too, so that would give us basically the same information.

If you wanted to use that, I probably wouldn't.

Will you ever get an update on that?

Thank you.

Well, if the board doesn't have any objection, I'm going to let Mr. Thornton, after Mr. Woodward has a question, give his quarterly update and we'll save you from coming back in two hours.

Mr. Thornton, feeding off of what Chairman said, do you know if there's been any recent traffic counts on Chalk Level Road?

So if you would like that information, I can put it right.

If you would, please.

They don't have to be carved down or anything?

No, I believe the lower section is being done by Cuckoo Area headquarters.

There's one of them there that really needs to be milled, Scott.

Thank you.

A little bit, I get.

All right, Mr. Storton, you want to give your quarterly update and we'll let you be home for supper.

I'm sorry, did you have a question, Ms. Shannon?

Are they coming back like Columbia Road and so forth?

Yes, Columbia, yeah.

And then they'll be repaving them?

Yeah, so I was just getting... Then let's listen to that.

Yes.

Good job.

We will adjourn this work session and come back at 5 o'clock.