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Council Candidates Forum 10/5/2011
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Council Candidates Forum
10/5/2011
SPEAKER_12
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Good evening, everyone.
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We welcome our candidates, our audience members and viewers, to this candidate forum hosted by Positive Channels and the Charlottesville Albemarle League of Women Voters.
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We're glad to have you joining us.
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I'm Andrea Copeland, and I will be serving as moderator for this evening's forum.
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Initially, I had an interest in doing more personal interviews with each candidate, but I chose to go with the forum format
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because I wanted to use the platform I've been blessed with through Positive Channels and TB10 to let the voice of the citizens be heard.
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So many of the questions we'll ask this evening come from the concerned citizens in our community.
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Some attend council meetings and some do not.
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Nevertheless, they care about what's happening in our community and this upcoming election.
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At this time I want to turn this part of the program over to Deborah Hoard.
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Deborah is affiliated with the Charlottesville-Albemarle League of Women Voters and she's been a tremendous asset in helping me organize this forum and she's going to tell you a little bit about the league after which I will introduce the candidates and they will then give their opening statements.
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So Deborah.
SPEAKER_03
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The League very much appreciates the possibility of having this forum and it's such a venuous guest.
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We really appreciate Andrea's involvement.
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Thank you all for coming.
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I have two announcements.
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A public service announcement about the League and I also wanted to mention before I even get to that that there will be a school board candidates forum.
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We're partnering with Charlene Green, who you all know from the dialogue on race.
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It will be right here in the city council chambers on October 20th.
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So we hope you'll all come again and bring your friends.
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And just a little bit about the league.
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The League of Women Voters of Charlottesville-Albemarle was founded in 1946.
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We encourage citizens through education and advocacy to be involved in their government.
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We work to influence public policy through that education and advocacy.
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We encourage the practice of voting through forums just like this as well as work at the polls.
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The League is strictly non-partisan, one of our primary questions.
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What this means is that we neither support nor oppose candidates for office at any level of government.
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At the same time, we are wholeheartedly political and work to influence policy through our education and advocacy.
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We are the original grassroots citizens organization.
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Today, the League is composed of women and men of all ages and viewpoints who share the belief that we the people remains a call to action.
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If you're curious, you can find out more through the web or take any of these pamphlets or ask any of us with the League button.
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We hope you enjoy tonight.
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Thank you again.
SPEAKER_12
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Thank you, Deborah.
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And that's one of the main reasons I chose to partner with the League is because they have that nonpartisan stance, which is the same with positive channels.
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While we take positions on certain issues when it comes to matters like this, we are nonpartisan.
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So we assure everyone here that we have no hidden agendas and no one's going to be elevated or exalted over another one.
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No one's going to be based lower than anyone else.
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At this time, I want to introduce to you our candidates who are running for the open seats on city council.
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I'm going to start with E. Brandon Collins down at our very end.
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Mr. Collins was born and raised here in Charlottesville.
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He is 38 years old.
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He graduated from Charlottesville High School and now has a daughter attending CHS.
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Brandon is a musician performing on the cello and piano mainly and also teaches music, cello, piano, and some violin.
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Brandon has worked in restaurants since getting a work permit as a teenager.
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He underwent a political and philosophical transformation years ago
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and has become a dedicated activist for peace and justice, justice causes locally, statewide and nationally.
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Next we have Dee Dee Smith.
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Dee Dee and her husband, Tim Wilson, have lived in the Fry's Spring neighborhood since 1979.
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Their now adult children attend city schools and Dee Dee served on the Charlottesville School Board from 2000 to 2006, including one of those years as chair.
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She is a longtime environmental advocate as shown by her leadership of the Ivy Creek Foundation for 14 years and her certification as a Virginia Master Naturalist and tree steward.
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Her favorite local band is Trees on Fire.
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Next we have Bob Fenwick.
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Bob has lived in Charlottesville for 37 years.
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He is an independent construction contractor.
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He's an engineer and he's a community activist.
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He has two sons who have been educated in the Charlottesville city school system and they are now serving in the United States Army.
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And he and his lovely wife have been married for 44 years.
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Next up we have Satyendra Huja.
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Mr. Huja has lived in Charlottesville since 1973 and has served the city, first as director of planning and then as a city council member for almost that long.
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He is also a published poet and with his wife Irene has assembled an amazing collection of teapots.
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He helped to found the local Meals on Wheels program and leads the soup kitchen team at his church, Thomas Jefferson Memorial.
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Next up we have Andrew Williams.
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Mr. Williams, you gave me yours, right?
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Yes.
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Okay.
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All right, here we go.
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All right, Mr. Williams is currently a licensed insurance claims adjuster for State Farm Insurance, and he manages policies in six states, including the Commonwealth of Virginia.
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He represented the Virginia Community College System a few times during our General Assembly, and he is also in school for human resource development.
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Next up we have Kathy Galvin.
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Kathy has lived in Charlottesville for the past 28 years.
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She and her husband, Michael Costanzo, have two sons who attended city schools and one is still at CHS.
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The other is off at college.
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Kathy is an avid cyclist.
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She sings in several musical ensembles.
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including her church choirs, and runs her own architectural and urban design practice in Charlottesville.
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For over the past 20 years, Kathy has served on committees dealing with education, affordable housing, and growth management in both city and county.
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In December, she will complete a four-year elected term on the Charlottesville City School Board.
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and lastly but not least, we have Mr. Bandy.
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Scott has lived in the area since 1989 and he moved to Cherry Avenue in Charlottesville in 1993.
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Scott says he has no exceptional degrees or professions to claim.
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However, Scott does hold a certificate of course completion from Evelyn Wood Reading Dynamics Institute.
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We'd like to welcome our candidates tonight, everyone.
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Yes, we can clap, it's okay.
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And at this time, I'm going to turn it over to the candidates.
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They each have one minute where they're going to give an opening statement.
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I know they're thinking, one minute, how in the world am I going to say all that I need to say in one minute?
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But I know they've been doing this long enough to get that thing down to one minute.
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So I'm going to now start on my right with Scott Bandy.
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So each of you would just go after in that order.
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So Scott, you can begin your opening statement.
SPEAKER_10
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Thank you, Ms. Copeland.
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You're very welcome.
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I'm Scott Bandy and well basically right now I'm doing this on the seat of my pants I'm flying all the way.
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I'm probably not going to wax as elegant as the other candidates up here tonight.
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Most of what I have to say is going to be from the heart.
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This has been a, this has been quite
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a learning experience for me.
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This is quite a beautiful town.
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I've gotten to expand my knowledge a lot more than I went into this race with.
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And like I said, well, let the chips fall where they may.
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On with the show.
SPEAKER_12
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On with the show.
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All right.
Kathy Galvin
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Thank you.
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My father was the son of Irish immigrants, a World War II vet with an eighth-grade education.
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By the time I was eight, he was 100% disabled, making my mother the breadwinner on a nurse's salary.
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My mother was the daughter of Lithuanian immigrants, and she got her degree on the GI Bill.
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She wrote Brockton's first Head Start grant and had my brother and I working every summer as aides.
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I saw sprawl and urban renewal hit my hometown, but I also saw beautiful parks and museums in Boston with my mother.
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It's no wonder I studied geography and economics and became an architect.
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I also watched Friday night fights with my father.
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Maybe that's why I'm primed for politics.
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These parents, plus raising two sons, being a part of Johnson School even though we lived on the north side, chairing a county committee even though I live in the city, and being elected to the school board have shaped my perspective.
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Thank you.
SPEAKER_05
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Hi, my name is Andrew Williams.
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I'm 25 years old.
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As she said, I'm still a student, and I'm still working towards my goals of personal development.
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The core of my platform is the idea of giving our local government back to the people, or give a large chunk of our local government back to the people.
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I think that we have an opportunity to leave corporate politics behind.
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I don't see the need for partisan politics here at the local level, because
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Independence is the purest form of representation at the local level and it's my belief that we need to focus on our residents, we need to focus on the problems and we need to focus on getting good solutions that's going to actually help people and that's going to come by a different new perspective in Charlottesville City Council.
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I like the work, I applaud the efforts of the previous councilors before me but to tackle these new issues we need a new perspective.
Satyendra Huja
Member, City Council
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I want to thank, first of all, the person who arranged the chairs today.
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They promoted me to the mayor's position.
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Maybe there's a sign of things to come.
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My name is Satyendra Singh Huja.
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I've been in Charlottesville for 38 years.
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31st, 31st as the director of planning and community development and director of strategic planning.
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For the last four years, I've been on the city council.
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I also teach at University of Virginia in city planning.
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I have expertise and experience to find creative solutions for our community.
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This evening I'm looking forward to discussing issues of interest to the citizens of our community.
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Thank you.
Bob Fenwick
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I'm Bob Fenwick and I'm running as an independent for city council.
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Sometimes people in the media ask me how I want to be introduced and I have to hesitate for a minute and I say, I'm just Bob Fenwick.
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But in case that's not good enough, I've been a businessman for 36 years in the city.
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I have dredged, I have built dams, I have repaired dams, and I think I'm able to add to the discussion that we're having in our community about those things.
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I've been a businessman for so long, like other businessmen, I wake up in the middle of the night with my stomach in a knot, and occasionally, if I can, excuse me just a second,
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Being a businessman, I'm wondering if I can make the payroll.
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And that's what many businessmen in our community do.
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And I'm saying these things because not all of us start out at the same place or travel the same road through life.
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But there is occasionally a value to walking in other people's shoes.
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And I think that's what's going to happen tonight, that this is going to be a community forum.
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Thank you.
Dede Smith
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Good evening.
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My name is Dee Dee Smith and I'm running for city council because I love Charlottesville.
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And I've always believed that the best way to give back to the city I love is to get involved.
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And that is exactly what I bring to this race.
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I have decades of experience in this community, particularly in the educational and environmental issues.
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I am passionate about the needs of our city and that includes a commitment to success for all children.
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A commitment that comes from 16 years of advocacy for underserved children and as a PTO leader at Jackson-Biah and on the Charlottesville School Board.
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I'm passionate about the protection of our parks and our neighborhoods
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a passion that comes from 14 years as the director of the Ivy Creek Natural Area and I'm committed to open and informed government, one that listens to the people and knows the amazing resources that our citizens bring to the table.
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I do my homework, I work hard, I seek out information from others.
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I believe I can help make Charlottesville better for all its citizens.
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Thank you.
SPEAKER_06
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Well, thank you.
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I'm Brandon Collins.
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Thanks for inviting all of us to be here.
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I'm looking forward to being as direct and honest with these very tough and challenging questions tonight.
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I'm running for city council because I think the city can do a whole lot more when it comes to the needs of our most
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Disadvantaged residents.
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We have talked a lot in the last few years about the current economic crisis.
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There are people and whole communities in our town who have been in economic crisis for generations.
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And I think the city has a responsibility and has the ability to do fundamental work
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to change this.
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There are kind of five big things that I think we need to be considering.
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One is the cuts from the state and federal government and making up the difference particularly to education when those come our way.
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I would like to see us move towards guaranteed employment for all residents in Charlottesville, expand our attention and our funding for affordable housing, and expand public transit.
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Now those things are all very much tied to our ecological needs.
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Thank you.
SPEAKER_12
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Okay, thank you all very much and as I said earlier, a lot of the questions we ask have come from citizens in this community just randomly asking what concerns you?
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What is it that you would like to have me address to the candidates?
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So, I'm going to begin with the first question and some of my questions I will direct to someone specifically and others, you know, go for it.
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So this particular question says, once again, Charlottesville has been voted one of the number one places to live.
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Would you comment on how our city can expand to welcome newcomers to the city without disenfranchising longtime residents or pushing out low income residents?
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How will this honor affect our citizens who feel neglected, ignored, are living in poverty or are currently homeless?
SPEAKER_10
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Well, there's no easy way to please everyone.
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The best that we can do is accommodate our citizens and try to make those that would be interested in moving here welcome, feel welcome at the least.
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We have a lot of problems.
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One that I'm concerned about is
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is the infant mortality rate right in the midst of our city.
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That's been a subject of Seville, and I think it might have even been in a hook, but definitely Seville.
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The issues cannot be avoided.
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We've got to keep an eye on what we do and how we do it and try to do it reasonably
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within the means of air budget.
SPEAKER_12
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Okay.
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Would anyone else like to comment on this question?
Dede Smith
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Dee Dee?
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Certainly.
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I do think that Charlottesville is experiencing growth and that growth is coming from people coming in, new citizens coming in, but we do have a wealth of experience here and history here and I think that is what's really
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is what we need to be very cautious about losing, particularly among our African American population who have a generational history with this community.
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I do think that a
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As we are growing, we are also seeing a growth of new cultural diversity, though, which I think can really enrich our community.
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And we just need to be able to embrace a much broader culture here.
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And I think everybody will come out better for this.
SPEAKER_05
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I think we need to take care of our situation at home first.
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Good way to stop people from moving in, but we need to help the people here.
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We need to focus on creating an environment that is conducive to job growth.
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We need to stop gentrification by creating an environment that would enable people to go out and buy homes or start businesses and focus on the people here.
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and I think that to the extent that it has been, the emphasis has been on bringing maybe people outside and what you have is gentrification and these are the issues but these aren't new issues, they've existed for decades, in particular over the last decade, we need to focus here and worry about our domestic responsibilities.
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Then once we tackle some core issues, then we can move forward and bring some new people to the city.
SPEAKER_12
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Okay.
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Yes, Kathy.
Kathy Galvin
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Yes, and this is a very challenging problem.
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It does involve the chronic unemployment that we've had for generations now.
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I believe since the ICS building went out of business with the textile industry, for example, that was a really good source of jobs that many of our people never recovered from.
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We now have several generations that haven't had the dignity of work.
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That affects the children in the classroom when they don't see what is the point, what is the point of working hard when they don't see what the end game is.
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So I would like to point out that the recent Orange Dot project that was released last week is a very, very good blueprint, I think, to expand our job creation and target it to individuals and families that have been chronically unemployed for generations so that we not only look at decreasing expenses,
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through assisted housing, through daycare, but we also work towards increasing wealth and assets through better jobs and better growth track jobs.
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That does need and demand that we grow, but we have to grow responsibly.
SPEAKER_12
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Thank you.
Bob Fenwick
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Well, we can't forget that we are very fortunate to have the University of Virginia as an anchor in our city.
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And I can't help but think on some of these surveys that come down, who are the people that have been surveyed?
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Number one place to live.
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It is a beautiful city, no question.
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We had another survey come out or another study come out that this was the sixth best real estate market in the country.
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And a realtor asked me, well, you know, God bless the other six because we are in a pretty bad situation here.
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So our job
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and the job of the City Council is to make sure issues like affordable housing are addressed, making sure that everybody in the community is part of the community.
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And I see some people in the audience tonight that I think we're going to address that issue further on.
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It's a beautiful city.
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I love having these surveys come down, but let's not forget that to be a complete city, everybody has to be part of it.
SPEAKER_06
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All right, Brandon?
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Well, I think when we're looking specifically at gentrification, but the whole issue of poverty here in Charlottesville, it's not the number one place to live.
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And there are things we can do about gentrification, and it really depends on what kind of jobs we are pushing and whose interests we're serving first.
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Are we going to serve as the Chamber of Commerce suggests that we
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you know, increase businesses and cater to their needs or are we going to have a job center where people, human beings can access work and find work and that should be our first priority in my mind.
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About gentrification, there's a whole lot we can do and one idea is having a public bank that can
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Act as a bulwark against this and provide funds for home ownership and just to allow people to maintain their homes.
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You know, the more people we bring in and more wealth and more middle class jobs, that means more people coming into town, raising the cost of living, and that's going to further push people out of their neighborhoods.
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And we need to take this serious.
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We need to take big steps.
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We can't just rely on the same old strategies that have failed us.
SPEAKER_12
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Okay, Mr. Huja, I want to address this question to you.
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There's a declining African-American population in our city.
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How do you make Charlottesville a city of choice for African-Americans, whether they're professionals, paraprofessionals, or blue-collar?
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And if there is no African-American that is appointed to city council, will this community still have an advocate on the council?
Satyendra Huja
Member, City Council
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We need to attract African-American community just like we attract other people.
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We need to provide opportunities to live, opportunities for entertainment and culture, opportunity for good housing, and an opportunity for a good job.
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I think those are provided, there will be more African-Americans in our community.
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As for the representation of the city council, I think you don't have to be African-American to be representing African-American.
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I have myself considered myself a minority, but I think you can represent all people.
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That's one of the nice things about our system is we are at large system.
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We are people who represent all the total community, not just one part of the community.
SPEAKER_12
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There's a part of the community that feels neglected though and part of that, part of the community is the African American community and there's some reason why two or three people and speaking with them feel this way.
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Even with having an African American on council, how do we assure them?
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that they will not be forgotten about?
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We don't want you to take precedence over them, I don't think, but how do you assure them that they will not be forgotten?
Satyendra Huja
Member, City Council
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I think one of the things that we have done in the last few years is dialogue and race, which has tried to resolve our concerns and issues between us, but I think that makes a difference.
SPEAKER_12
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Okay.
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Does anyone else want to answer this question?
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Andrew?
SPEAKER_05
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I like to see the dialogue on race expanded.
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And in order to assist someone in addressing their issues, you do have to understand them and understand where they're coming from.
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Or if you want to help people who make under a certain amount or make under $25,000 a year, you yourself have to make, to the extent possible, under $25,000 a year.
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I understand how it feels to have to work 45 hours
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and then spend the night trying to go to school, trying to better myself while helping my neighbors and while helping other people in the community.
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I think that the council over the last decade, last eight years, had plenty of opportunities to address the issues in our underrepresented communities and not just underrepresented by color and race.
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The new color that everyone's thinking about is green.
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How do we help our communities that are suffering financially?
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It's consistent that communities that are suffering just so happen to be the underrepresented populace.
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That's the Latino community and the African American community.
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Have someone on council that understands them.
SPEAKER_12
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All right, yeah.
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So we can just join in?
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Yeah, we'll take two more responses and then move to the next question.
Kathy Galvin
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So the one aspect of this that I'd like to point out is that we're also competing with other areas, other counties, that have a different kind of housing stock.
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It's newer, it's bigger, and it's cheaper, relatively speaking, to what we provide in the city of Charlottesville.
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We have smaller houses, they usually take a lot of rehab,
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and they wind up costing an awful lot of money.
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So just like a lot of other ethnic groups when they achieved a middle class or upper working class status, a lot of the African Americans when you look at the census have also moved to other counties where they could get a bigger house for less money.
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So we need to really rethink what are we going to do policy wise to get our city attractive to that
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African American middle class that is also looking for what they consider is the best bargain, the best deal.
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Let's make our houses a lot easier to adapt and remodel.
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We have a tax abatement program.
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Maybe it needs to be longer.
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We have to look at the LEAP program.
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It does help us with energy efficiency, but it's not tied to income levels.
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Those are the kinds of things we also need to think about in terms of getting back our African American middle class.
Bob Fenwick
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One thing we really cannot forget, and I mentioned earlier about walking in somebody else's shoes, I have never had my neighborhood bulldozed.
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I have never had my neighborhood taken over by somebody else and moved out.
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and that's the important thing about our community, our African American community being represented.
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They have that community memory that most of us don't have and that's the importance of what I consider my support of the ward election system.
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Everybody would have not only a voice but a part in the decision making.
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and until everybody has that voice, some people in this community are going to feel left out.
SPEAKER_10
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I'd like to add that I concur on that last point with Mr. Fenwick.
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I think it is beyond time that we move to a ward representation system, whether it's mixed with some at-large seats or not.
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The neighborhoods, the distinct character of our neighborhoods needs its own representation besides an at-large representation of the citizens.
SPEAKER_12
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OK. Well, let me ask you this question.
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Scott, with the growing Latino community in Charlottesville, what will be your first step in engaging them in the life in our community?
00:28:36
Many don't feel engaged.
00:28:37
How do you engage them?
SPEAKER_10
00:28:41
Difficult.
00:28:43
No simple way.
00:28:44
I'm a person that likes to live by the principle, keep it simple standard.
00:28:52
going out in the communities.
00:28:54
Kristin Szakos, I mean, her tour with city council is a step, but is it the right step?
00:29:01
There are so many different things that could be done to engage individuals on a personal level, to bring them in not just to council but to the different committee meetings.
SPEAKER_12
00:29:14
OK. Brandon?
SPEAKER_06
00:29:18
Well, I have actually consistently engaged with the Latino community here in Charlottesville and around Albemarle and even statewide.
00:29:25
It's something that I've taken very seriously in the activism that I participate in.
00:29:30
And I think as far as how we can make things better and reach out to those folks in Charlottesville, the number one thing we can do is make people feel safe
00:29:37
and make sure that they don't feel that they are outsiders.
00:29:41
These are people who are not necessarily undocumented.
00:29:44
These are people who are citizens.
00:29:46
They have children here.
00:29:47
Some of them may be undocumented, but they are not outsiders.
00:29:50
They're human beings.
00:29:52
You know, the recent death at UVA was from an immigrant detainee at the Farmville Detention Center, which I worked very hard to try to stop that for-profit prison from being built.
00:30:04
and I think if we can make Charlottesville a place where all documented and undocumented immigrants feel comfortable, that's going to go a long way towards their feeling included into our society.
SPEAKER_12
00:30:17
Okay.
00:30:18
Let's move on to talking about poverty.
00:30:23
All right, Kathy Galvin had mentioned the Orange Dot Report and that report said nearly one in five do not make enough to survive on and nearly one in three cannot afford added costs of child care and transportation.
00:30:36
How realistic is it to combat poverty?
00:30:40
There seems to be a lot of talk and quote unquote very little action as one person said.
00:30:48
How do you realistically combat this?
00:30:50
These are staggering statistics.
Dede Smith
00:30:53
Yes, and it's a really compelling report, but one that shouldn't surprise those of us who have been in this community for as long as some of us have.
00:31:05
And particularly those, and I know Kathy would agree, that if you want to know a lot about your community, the school board is one of the biggest lessons you'll be able to get.
00:31:15
But I thought that there were some interesting models in that report.
00:31:20
The one from West Philadelphia was a great model.
00:31:23
It's got some great ideas.
00:31:25
One of the concerns I have about it is that it only addresses one segment of our population.
00:31:31
that is living in poverty, an important one because it's talking about single mothers and children and that's extremely important but it's not all of our citizens who are struggling and we have many more segments of our community including
00:31:46
returning ex-felons and just the male population that is those who are unemployed.
00:31:55
But I think it's a great start and the model that they use about partnering with our large institutions that do have commerce that can be imported into our community I thought was a good model.
Bob Fenwick
00:32:14
Well, isn't this just the way Charlottesville works?
00:32:18
We have a problem, we do a study.
00:32:21
We have a problem, we hire an expert.
00:32:24
Now, for those of you here and for those of you watching across the city, the next time the landlord comes to you and says, I want your rent, you're late, get a copy of this report and hold it up and show them.
00:32:38
And say, this is going to help me.
00:32:40
And see how far that gets you.
00:32:45
One of the main things about this report was a jobs hub.
00:32:49
What is the point of a jobs hub if there are no jobs?
00:32:53
For two and a half years I've been trying to convince the city council on how to make jobs.
00:32:57
Either put realtor open house signs out in median strips or start dredging.
00:33:03
But the biggest thing is there was already a report out.
00:33:08
It's the Virginia workforce.
00:33:11
That was a report that was much more comprehensive and much more helpful than any report that was put out, Orange Dot, whatever it was.
00:33:20
This is available to anybody up on Hydraulic Road.
Satyendra Huja
Member, City Council
00:33:27
The issue of poverty is an important concern in our community, and it is not going to disappear overnight, but we need and can do things to improve the situation.
00:33:38
As Bob mentioned, we need to create jobs, and jobs are important, as jobs are probably the most important anti-poverty program there is, and the city can help in creating jobs, especially growing small businesses.
00:33:53
Most jobs in the country, 80% of the jobs are from small businesses, not from large industry.
00:34:00
And so we need to encourage small businesses in our community and prepare the workforce to be ready to use those jobs which are created.
SPEAKER_12
00:34:09
Okay, one more, Mr. Williams.
SPEAKER_05
00:34:11
One way to tackle the issue of poverty first off is to get rid of corporate politics and have some balanced representation in the city.
00:34:20
If people aren't represented, then how are their needs going to be met?
00:34:26
At the state level, what I mentioned earlier, what I did was some strategic planning for the Virginia Community College system.
00:34:33
And with that, we had measurable goals over a certain period in time.
00:34:38
And these, you know, there were a lot of benchmarks.
00:34:40
We need to train a certain amount of people.
00:34:43
We need to go after the people who aren't in college.
00:34:46
We need to go after the people
00:34:47
who don't have jobs.
00:34:49
We need to offer them and tell them and remind them that vocational training is available, but we have to make it available first.
00:34:57
Anytime that there's no jobs, an educated people is going to go out and create jobs.
00:35:02
We need to create an environment through education to create jobs.
00:35:06
It's not government, you know, government isn't going to solve that problem, but government is responsible for creating an environment that is conducive to job growth.
00:35:13
And that is only through education, particularly with the underrepresented populace.
SPEAKER_12
00:35:17
Okay, Kathy economic growth and job creation are on everyone's mind as Andrew just got to finish speaking about what role does the city government play in creating jobs and stimulating the economy and how can we bring the jobs of the future to Charlottesville?
00:35:33
What are these jobs?
Kathy Galvin
00:35:35
Well, again, thank you very much, and I think I'd like to play a little bit off what Andrew said, that the government's role is really to provide the conditions where opportunity can thrive.
00:35:46
By that we mean that we do have the places, the sites ready, prepared, so that we can entice and attract certain industries that we know are growth industries.
00:35:57
For example, the biotech industry currently is growing in Charlottesville.
00:36:01
but they've already told us in many ways that they need space, they need wet labs, they need to be able to then acquire property.
00:36:11
There's a very promising industry, Indoor Biotechnologies, taking over Preston Avenue's Coca-Cola building.
00:36:16
We need to really, really facilitate that and create the opportunities around that site so that we can then bring in small businesses that will take advantage of all the employees that are coming.
00:36:26
So again, the Office of Economic Development combined with the Neighborhood Services Office can work together to create the environment that makes it attractive to come here.
SPEAKER_06
00:36:39
Well, I think the city can do a lot more about jobs.
00:36:44
You know, one thing about this orange dot study, it really wasn't a surprise to many of us.
00:36:49
And the proposals that came out of it from the Chamber of Commerce, I feel like, did not focus on people, that it focused on contractors getting more business.
00:36:58
And I don't think that helps anybody.
00:37:00
But particularly alarming about what they had proposed was a rezoning of certain residential neighborhoods.
00:37:07
If you want to see a revisitation of urban renewal and what happened in Vinegar Hill, you let the Chamber of Commerce get their hands on this city and what we're going to do for jobs.
00:37:17
So I say let's not rezone.
00:37:19
Let's make sure that the few existing spots we have that we can use for light industry
00:37:25
Okay, Scott?
SPEAKER_10
00:37:49
Well, on the other hand, I don't feel that neighborhood development services should be influencing how our extra jobs are going to come to the city as.
00:38:03
It shouldn't just be limited to the new up-and-coming enviro technologies.
00:38:09
It shouldn't just be the old things that we're used to.
00:38:15
I mean, go out there.
00:38:17
Does anyone see a service station on Main Street?
00:38:21
Talk about your gentrification there.
00:38:23
No.
00:38:24
Let's open this up, not just to middle-class jobs, but if we're going to be a business-friendly city,
00:38:30
Let's open up.
00:38:32
Let's stop trying to be like opening up trade to China for the first time.
SPEAKER_12
00:38:38
Anyone else?
SPEAKER_11
00:38:39
Bob?
Bob Fenwick
00:38:41
It's kind of like everybody's heard of the trickle down theory.
00:38:45
The only problem is a lot of people just haven't gotten the trickle yet.
00:38:49
So when we're talking about green jobs, bio jobs, all this other thing, white collar jobs, don't forget the ordinary jobs.
00:38:56
The carpenters, electricians, the plumbers, the sanitation workers, all those type jobs.
00:39:03
The city can create jobs.
00:39:06
The city can take care of infrastructure.
00:39:08
If they had taken care of Belmont Bridge or if they had dredged, we wouldn't be in the mess we're in now about our community discussion.
00:39:15
So I would like to turn the economic theory around and propose a bubble-up theory where we have people from the bottom up.
00:39:24
Five ordinary people working, you have one foreman.
00:39:29
Five foremen, you have one white collar guy.
00:39:31
Then you start selling houses.
00:39:33
And then the city can start to move.
00:39:36
The people at the top will always be able to take care of themselves.
00:39:39
It's the people at the bottom that the policies of the city should address.
Dede Smith
00:39:46
All right.
00:39:48
Didi?
00:39:48
Yeah, I just wanted to add that we cannot do any of this without education.
00:39:54
and we need to buoy up our education system.
00:39:56
We need to be sure that all of our children are graduating from high school, that they have the skills to get a job.
00:40:05
and that involves not only basic skills but retooling our education system to fit the jobs that are available.
00:40:13
As we bring in jobs, we just can't do one or the other.
00:40:16
We really need to marry the two.
00:40:19
And in almost all of these discussions, it just doesn't work to only look at one thing.
00:40:26
Aspect of them and it's like the Orange Dot Project.
00:40:29
I mean it's not enough just to look at the women and children because they have families and there are other people involved.
00:40:37
So we really need a much more holistic look at the problem and solve it from all the different angles.
00:40:44
And education is paramount in that discussion.
SPEAKER_12
00:40:48
OK, apparently we can't have a debate in this decade without mention of the Meadow Creek Parkway, the bypass, and the water supply plant.
00:40:57
I want to warn everybody just to calm down.
00:41:00
We're not going to debate that today.
00:41:02
But have these issues been made so big, Mr. Huja, at the expense of other important issues, homelessness, poverty, the achievement gap?
Satyendra Huja
Member, City Council
00:41:13
Well, let me say about Miller Creek Parkway.
00:41:16
We've been discussing it for 45 years.
SPEAKER_12
00:41:18
That's a long time.
Satyendra Huja
Member, City Council
00:41:19
It is a fairly long time to play on the road.
00:41:21
And I think there has to be debate.
00:41:25
There's a time for debate.
00:41:26
There ought to be time for action.
00:41:27
And I think there's a time for action now.
00:41:30
And we are building the Miller Creek Parkway now.
00:41:32
Senator Lane water study.
00:41:35
We have a water plan.
00:41:36
We agreed to it, but we keep on talking about it.
00:41:39
And I think it needs to be done again.
00:41:40
Something needs to be done.
00:41:43
Fifty years ago, some people in this community had foresight to plan ahead and think for our needs for water.
00:41:49
We need to do likewise for the future.
SPEAKER_12
00:41:52
Andrew?
SPEAKER_05
00:41:53
Yeah, back in 2009,
00:41:55
You know, when I ran the first time as a rioting candidate, I was like, you know, the Meadow Creek Parkway and like the water.
00:42:00
I was like, you know, good.
00:42:02
You know, if I lose this election, unfortunately, I won't have to talk about it again.
00:42:05
And here it is.
00:42:07
So, I mean, yes, that has taken a lot of attention, a lot of media attention, and a lot of, I guess, public attention from the core issues.
00:42:16
There are tons of issues.
00:42:17
It's about the principles.
00:42:19
The principle of, you know, love thy neighbor.
00:42:24
responsible good spending and not just focusing on spending but investing all of these things that weren't being talked about we need to create and the reason why I keep going back to creating an environment that is conducive because if you go to some neighborhoods it's a very warm educated filling environment and because of that environment children grow up
00:42:44
with the idea that you know this is something that I need to go after or this is something that I need to do.
00:42:50
In order for Charlottesville to be a world-class city we need to make sure that we are taking care of our weakest links and those are the underrepresented neighborhoods and only through education is that possible.
Kathy Galvin
00:43:03
I want to first off express that I have great respect for the people that have had different opinions about these issues, the parkway and the water plan.
00:43:13
Having said that, my personal opinion is that we do need to move on and work towards sustainable, smart growth.
00:43:22
And that's, I believe the water plan and the parkway do that for us.
00:43:25
Having said that, if we don't grow, what's the consequence?
00:43:29
We won't be dealing with the 18% unemployment that we have in our African-American neighborhoods.
00:43:35
We won't be dealing with the over 20% of our children living in poverty.
00:43:39
We also won't be addressing the acres and acres of underdeveloped asphalt that you see in our corridors that have been designated growth areas
00:43:48
Those are where we can grow jobs, where we can grow many tiers of employment to get everybody at all levels employed, working, and having some future and hope for their children in the next generations to come.
00:44:04
So I do believe that these are tied to how you perceive growth, and it needs to be done smartly, and we need to do it.
00:44:11
David?
Dede Smith
00:44:12
Well, again,
00:44:15
believe that all of these issues are actually interrelated.
00:44:19
The ability of families to afford to live in this city has a lot to do, we now know, from the Orange Dot Project to paying their utilities.
00:44:28
And one of the big arguments against the water plan is that it will raise our water rates that are already among the highest in the state
00:44:40
and make it ever more difficult for families to pay their monthly bills.
00:44:52
is intimately related to the health of our neighborhoods and the ability of our citizens to live in this city in a comfortable way.
00:45:06
And so I don't think that you can really say that, well, the Parkway and the water plan are over here and affordability of Charlottesville is a different topic.
00:45:16
It's not, they're all related.
SPEAKER_11
00:45:19
Okay, Brenda.
SPEAKER_06
00:45:21
Well, as Dee Dee just said, you know, the water issue is a poor people's issue.
00:45:27
When we talk about our bills, building this expensive new dam and new pipeline is going to make our bills go up, and that's just how it is.
00:45:34
I think it's preposterous for anyone to suggest that we're not talking about poverty enough because of the dam and because of McIntyre extended.
00:45:44
I have consistently brought poverty at the top of my platform for this whole run and I can also be very good on these issues and you'll see there are two seated counselors who have been very good on those issues and have done the most to alleviate some of the suffering that's out there.
00:46:02
I think
00:46:02
What this shows is the people who are in favor of the dam, whose interest they're looking out for.
00:46:08
They're looking out for the interests of developers.
00:46:10
They're looking out for corporations like Nestle.
00:46:13
And they are looking out for business people and growth and sprawl.
00:46:17
And that's not good for workers here in Charlottesville.
00:46:19
It's not good for poor people here in Charlottesville.
00:46:22
If we want to talk about water, let's talk about subsidizing more water bills for more people.
SPEAKER_12
00:46:28
Okay.
00:46:30
All right.
00:46:31
Let's talk about infrastructure here.
00:46:33
Scott, I'm thinking of the Belmont Bridge, Developmental Cherry Avenue, Tonster Park Master Planning Process.
00:46:42
What do we do about these things?
SPEAKER_10
00:46:46
Well, we address them the best we can.
00:46:48
It wasn't exactly the first three things on my mind.
00:46:53
I'd like to set something straight for two of my neighbors in the audience.
00:46:56
I told them that I was
00:46:59
against the Metacreek Parkway.
00:47:00
I'd like to change that to I am for the Metacreek Parkway, but besides that... Let's talk about infrastructure here.
00:47:12
Yes.
00:47:12
Three of the things that are up and coming.
00:47:13
One, we have housing development that is in need, in dire need of attention.
00:47:23
We also have the City Yard which is being moved and what's the word that's being, no pun intended, bandied about here?
00:47:42
remediated.
00:47:43
After the city yard is remediated, why not use that space to relocate the city hall administration complex and turn that building over to our police and to the court that's over here.
00:48:02
We've needed to do this for a long time.
00:48:04
We've ignored these issues and they've caught up to us.
SPEAKER_12
00:48:07
OK, thank you, Scott.
00:48:08
Who would like to address the issues of the Belmont Bridge, developing Cherry Avenue, the Tulsa Park Master Planning?
00:48:15
OK, everyone, that's great.
00:48:16
OK, Mr. Huja, we haven't heard from you in a while.
Satyendra Huja
Member, City Council
00:48:18
Let me start with infrastructure as an important part of our community.
00:48:23
As you know, we are an old community.
00:48:24
Our infrastructure is deteriorating.
00:48:27
And if you flush it out and it doesn't go anywhere, you've got problems.
00:48:31
And we are at that stage in many neighborhoods.
00:48:33
I was just talking to a young man, gentleman outside before the meeting.
00:48:37
And there are problems like that.
00:48:39
We need to deal with our infrastructure.
00:48:41
Okay.
SPEAKER_10
00:48:54
I hope that includes the Woolen Mills Pumping Station.
Kathy Galvin
00:48:57
Okay.
00:48:58
Kathy?
00:48:59
Yes.
00:48:59
I mean, when you mention the Belmont Bridge and Cherry Avenue and Taunser Park, they're all part of our corridor system.
00:49:06
And about 12 years ago, there was a master plan, a vision plan, called the Torrey Gallows Corridor Study.
00:49:12
And it was a very, very dynamic, amazing vision.
00:49:16
One of the things that I would like to see is where are we on that?
00:49:20
What have we implemented?
00:49:21
What haven't we done?
00:49:23
Because when you look at something like Tonsler Park, right now they're undergoing a master planning process through the Parks and Recreation Department.
00:49:31
However, it's part of a major street, Cherry Avenue.
00:49:34
There's a lot of activity there that has caused great concern for the community.
00:49:39
I see that also tied to unemployment.
00:49:41
So why can't we combine our goals in the act of redesigning a park?
00:49:48
Think about reinventing and reinvesting in Cherry Avenue so that we can maybe mobilize that minority business opportunity council that came out of the dialogue on race.
00:50:00
That could be one of their first priorities.
00:50:02
How do we do those projects together?
00:50:05
Okay, we'll take one more.
00:50:06
Andrew?
SPEAKER_05
00:50:08
The structural integrity of our roads and parks and bridges, it could be a lot better, but it's the structural integrity of our government that we need to address first.
00:50:19
The reason why issues in certain neighborhoods weren't addressed is because those neighborhoods had no representation.
00:50:26
I believe back in 2009, I was the first to bring back up the idea of the ward system, or balanced representation.
00:50:33
If you put some independents and put some real workers, some real residents, you know, who've been on the ground in city council, a lot of these issues are going to be addressed.
00:50:43
It's good to have plans, but I want to act on it.
00:50:47
I want to see some results and some measurable results.
00:50:51
We need to set deadlines and we need to just go ahead and do.
00:50:53
and if it doesn't work or if the plans doesn't work how they should be working originally then we can adjust the plan and we can move forward.
00:51:01
Pretty much every decision that I make as far as business is concerned, I assess the current state, I scan the environment, I define the future state, I perform a gap analysis and I develop a plan.
00:51:12
After that we need to execute, monitor and adjust and that's what I want to bring to city council.
00:51:16
We need to move forward with results.
SPEAKER_12
00:51:18
Okay and we're going to ask a couple of more questions and then we're going to move on to the second part of this program where we're going to take your questions and address them to the candidates.
00:51:30
The next question is the current makeup of the City Council is all Democrat.
00:51:36
Should we move away from partisan elections?
00:51:39
Why or why not?
00:51:40
And the second part of that is do you think a more politically diverse council will fairly represent and better serve the Charlottesville community?
00:51:49
Brandon
SPEAKER_06
00:51:52
Well I think what you can see from the Democratic primaries is that the Democratic Party has basically become meaningless.
00:52:00
They split into factions, they used the dam and the parkway as a wedge issue and it left them with a split ticket and now what do they actually stand for?
00:52:09
So they have these factions, one is more business oriented, more pro-growth and I think there's a smaller faction that may be a little more conducive to the needs of human beings.
00:52:19
I think that's a good reason for having non-partisan elections.
00:52:24
I think this is something we should explore.
00:52:27
You know, everybody's going to know who's in what party and what they stand for, but at least maybe we'll get a better representation.
00:52:34
We need people who represent the interests of people who live here, the interests of poor people.
00:52:40
I have dedicated this campaign to it.
00:52:42
I've dedicated my activism to these issues.
00:52:44
and I think we need more people like me on city council and I think we're going to be hurt in a big way without Holly Edwards and if you look at how the Democratic primary went, we all got left out.
00:52:57
Okay, Dee Dee.
00:52:58
We'll just go around.
00:52:59
I know you all want to answer this question.
00:53:01
Thank you.
Dede Smith
00:53:01
Well, I think Brandon makes a good point that I think the primary did
00:53:06
did illustrate how we are a very diverse community and we're a very similar community.
00:53:12
I think we agree, all of us agree on more things than we disagree on.
00:53:17
At the same time that the idea of having a non-partisan election is very intriguing.
00:53:25
The issues of wards is another interesting
00:53:29
interesting one that might bring a broader geographic distribution of people.
00:53:35
The issues are one thing, but having people on council that understand the different areas of the city is another valuable asset, as well as the possibility that we could diversify in terms of cultural background.
Bob Fenwick
00:53:56
Well, I would like to see more competition in the political arena.
00:54:01
I'm a businessman and the things I've been saying for a couple of years, I don't think I've heard from anybody else.
00:54:06
I don't think I've heard this evening anybody mention about the recession again.
00:54:10
And yet we're going to spend hundreds of millions of dollars.
00:54:12
That thing alone
00:54:15
would say that we need partisan, we need party elections or a ward system of representation.
00:54:25
I come from a competitive environment in construction and I bid jobs and whether or not I get to work depends on what I can do and the price I can bring the job in with.
00:54:36
So I think the city would be better served if we had a more competitive environment.
00:54:42
There would be nobody whispering in my ear that you have to do this because the party wants it.
00:54:47
I would represent the citizens of Charlottesville and not the party.
Satyendra Huja
Member, City Council
00:54:53
Democratic Party speaks its own voice.
00:54:59
As you can see, there are five castles within our castle.
00:55:03
They are very diverse, they bring different experiences.
00:55:06
Similarly, the three candidates who are being nominated for running in the city castle election as we are.
00:55:12
We are also with a great deal of experience, a great deal of knowledge, a great deal of understanding of our community, and we do disagree on certain issues.
00:55:20
It doesn't mean that disagreement is unhealthy.
00:55:23
That's why we bring more ideas and new viewpoints.
00:55:28
And as far as the Democratic Party is concerned, I think it is healthy to have a competition, but somebody ought to be willing to run.
00:55:37
You can't force Republicans to run.
00:55:40
You can't force Independents to run.
00:55:41
There are four Independents right now on this table, and I'm very happy that they're running.
00:55:47
That doesn't mean that we shouldn't be having party politics.
SPEAKER_05
00:55:53
I don't see the need for partisan politics at the local level.
00:55:58
If people talk about experience and these credentials and what I've done over the last 20 years, look at your Congress for instance.
00:56:06
They had less than a 20% approval rating when it was big news about the deck selling.
00:56:11
It's not always experience.
00:56:13
The purest form of representation has always been
00:56:16
Independence, has always been the neighborhoods, have always been the individuals.
00:56:21
At the federal level, it's going to be a two-party system, it's going to remain that way forever, pretty much.
00:56:26
At the state level, the same rules applies, but here in Charlottesville, we have an opportunity to give a large chunk of government back to the people.
00:56:33
It is the people who should run the city because it is the people who are affected.
00:56:38
It's surprising a lot of people don't get involved in local politics.
00:56:42
The decisions that are made up here at this table have a direct impact on the vitality and the experience of people here locally.
00:56:51
Why should that belong to a party?
00:56:53
We need to leave corporate politics in Washington.
00:56:55
Please vote for at least two independents in this election November 8th.
Kathy Galvin
00:57:01
Yes, I'd like to make three points.
00:57:03
The first one is that when I look at the voter records and we look at where it's trending, about 80% of the city tends to always vote Democratic.
00:57:11
So short of bringing in additional Republicans or additional Independents, you're going to always have that slant.
00:57:17
So maybe that could be a program for Mr. Fenwick and Mr. Collins to welcome Republicans and Independents.
00:57:25
No one's stopping any party from running.
00:57:27
Second, the Democratic Party is inherently tolerant of differences of opinion.
00:57:32
That's why we have such a diverse ticket.
00:57:34
That's why we have such a diverse council now.
00:57:36
I think that's something to celebrate.
00:57:38
It's why I'm a Democrat.
00:57:39
No one's making me sign a pledge.
00:57:42
No one's making me go through some sort of litmus test.
00:57:45
It is freedom of thought, and that is what we celebrate.
00:57:48
Finally, I do think that the ward system needs to be seriously looked at because of the need for geographic as well as ethnic diversity.
00:57:57
Again, bringing in additional people to serve in this very time consuming, arduous position is going to be something that we have to really look at seriously and how to entice people to come and do the job.
SPEAKER_10
00:58:12
Our school board elections, they're non-partisan, but under the veneer and in the background, are they really non-partisan?
00:58:22
I mean, come on.
00:58:25
Yes, I said this earlier, we are in bad need of a re-adapted ward system.
00:58:32
It doesn't matter, it's time that this be brought about.
SPEAKER_12
00:58:37
Okay, that's it.
00:58:39
All right, at this time we are going to now take some of your questions.
00:58:44
And thank you all for bringing, having some.
00:58:51
Deborah's going to, okay.
00:59:02
Wow, we have quite a few.
00:59:03
Good, okay.
00:59:05
Now this part will be about 45 minutes long, so because we have so many, we're going to be very selective in who answers what.
SPEAKER_03
00:59:13
So, yeah.
SPEAKER_12
00:59:16
Youth, okay.
00:59:17
Questions about youth.
00:59:18
Alright.
00:59:21
Okay, what do you plan on doing for the young community to keep them off the street?
00:59:28
And the other part of that can be why won't the city donate any money or funds toward the youth programs?
00:59:34
So are our youth being neglected?
00:59:40
What can we do to fix that, Brandon?
SPEAKER_06
00:59:43
I think nationwide our youth are being neglected in a whole lot of ways.
00:59:47
You know, one of the big issues here in Charlottesville, and it may not be something that people think about a lot, but entertainment for folks who don't have a ton of money is really hard to access.
00:59:58
And especially for kids, you know, there's a lot we could do.
01:00:01
We could put up funding.
01:00:03
You know, the amount of money it would take to get some kids together to really figure out what it is they would really be interested in without imposing it on them
01:00:12
Let it grow organically and basically, you know, put up the money.
01:00:17
It wouldn't have to be a whole lot of money to get something going.
01:00:21
You know, I'd like to see us support when we give our nonprofit fundings inside the process that they have to assess whether they want to give the same amount or less or more.
01:00:32
When we look at, you know,
01:00:34
the arts funding that we do.
01:00:36
We should make sure that they're serving young people and particularly more free shows and more free access to things like community theater and things like that.
01:00:45
And all in all, we keep children out of the public discourse and they really shouldn't be.
01:00:52
These are smart kids.
01:00:53
It's their world that we're ruining for them and they should have a lot more say in a lot of things and that's about it.
SPEAKER_12
01:01:03
Okay, and I do want to acknowledge our youth that are here today who are those concerned citizens.
01:01:12
Thank you all for that question.
Kathy Galvin
01:01:15
All right, you wanted to address that real quick?
01:01:17
Well, how would you like to do it?
01:01:19
Do we have time to do that?
SPEAKER_12
01:01:20
Well, you know, they have a bundle of questions here, so we'll just take one.
01:01:24
All right, this is about reentry.
01:01:26
All right, the past year City Council came up with funding for five part-time temporary jobs for ex-offenders.
01:01:31
While appreciated, this is just a drop in the bucket.
01:01:34
Would you be willing to support an expansion of this coming home to work program to fund full-time jobs for more ex-offenders?
Satyendra Huja
Member, City Council
01:01:44
Let me make a comment.
01:01:46
As you know, City Council has just approved $30,000 as a pilot program.
01:01:51
Our idea is to see if it works, we can expand it and provide more job opportunities and re-entry opportunities to people who are coming out of jail.
01:02:03
So I think it is going to be a successful program and could be expanded.
SPEAKER_12
01:02:07
Okay.
01:02:08
Since this answer was short, we'll take another one.
01:02:10
Thank you, Mr. Huja.
01:02:12
Didi?
Dede Smith
01:02:13
Yeah, and I just wanted to say this goes back to something I talked about earlier where the Orange Dot Project was talking about an interesting model of expanding
01:02:22
employment for underemployed and unemployed persons by partnering with, in this case, UVA, Martha Jefferson Hospital, where they have very large budgets for procurement and bringing that industry into Charlottesville.
01:02:40
But as I say, the one criticism or one of the criticisms I have is that it was limited in scope to
01:02:47
one segment and I think the re-entry issue is a sort of wonderful one to include in this initiative to bring more industry into Charlottesville and I think we need to think about this holistically, not that I'm at all opposed to the city with their pilot program but in the big picture we really need to be including everybody who needs this kind of employment.
SPEAKER_12
01:03:15
Okay, this next question is for someone who hasn't answered yet.
01:03:19
If elected, what will you do to address the homeless population?
01:03:24
And how will you make sure that no one is left behind?
Kathy Galvin
01:03:28
I'll take a crack at that.
01:03:30
Again, the homeless population is something that we are seeing increase because the recession is making it a problem all over the country.
01:03:40
And so it's no surprise, but it's still unfortunate.
01:03:44
I've been looking at programs like DC has implemented a sweat equity program for the homeless where there is a lot of effort being made to create job crews that get job training.
01:03:56
that then rehab houses that have been abandoned or just need additional work and then they literally earn equity in the house and then they can live there.
01:04:06
I think that's the kind of a proactive approach, something that teaches skills at the same time has helped entire families
01:04:14
get off of the street and into something much more stable and at the same time acquire a marketable skill.
01:04:21
So I think the homeless situation has gotten worse because the economic situation has gotten worse.
01:04:27
Once we also get a handle on job creation, that will start abating.
01:04:32
Thank you.
01:04:33
Okay.
SPEAKER_10
01:04:34
Scott?
01:04:36
Short of rescinding the panhandling law, I have to agree with Ms. Galvin.
SPEAKER_12
01:04:40
OK. UVA is a top school.
01:04:43
Education is important.
01:04:45
This person says, when I went to UVA, only professor's children received scholarships.
01:04:50
Has anything been done to offer scholarships to the children of housekeepers, cafeterias, workers, et cetera?
Dede Smith
01:04:58
Dee Dee.
01:05:17
Really, one of the big initiatives in the past few years has been that anybody who graduates from PVCC with an associate degree automatically can go to UVA.
01:05:29
That doesn't address the financial issue, but in partnership with the financial issues, I think this has really been really helped diversify UVA.
01:05:38
Okay.
01:05:39
Andrew?
SPEAKER_05
01:05:41
I started at PVCC and I think
01:05:47
I think that having the opportunity or maybe if the city created like a division or a department that was able to provide funds at least on a success basis to students like with the C or above for tuition reimbursement, I think that would be very helpful if they didn't have any other alternatives.
01:06:05
I know that there's a scholarship program but for every Charlottesville high school student,
01:06:10
you know who graduates we should go ahead and look into you know what can we do how can we scrutinize the budget and free up some funds if these children these young adults didn't have any other opportunities maybe provide some assistance and to provide tuition at PVCC
01:06:27
you know on a tuition reimbursement basis or if we have the opportunity you know put the monies up front and you know make sure that they understand that they need to get you know beyond a certain GPA or grade point average and then go ahead and pay like a hundred percent I think that that's easy to do it's a you know cost friendly and I encourage people to start at community colleges especially if they don't know you know what they want to do in life.
Satyendra Huja
Member, City Council
01:06:49
I don't know if your audience is aware that there is a scholarship program which Citi helps set up so it gives scholarships to children from this community to any college they want to go to.
SPEAKER_12
01:07:01
OK, all right.
01:07:02
This is another question pertaining to poverty and UVA's role in fighting this.
01:07:06
It says, does all growth fight poverty?
01:07:09
In the last 20 years, the University of Virginia has grown six times in size, all the while paying its lowest paid employees less than what allows them to live with dignity in our community.
01:07:22
How will you engage UVA on this issue?
01:07:29
Brandon.
SPEAKER_06
01:07:30
Well there's a lot of interesting things about UVA that influence our city.
01:07:34
They are our biggest employer, they're our biggest polluter, and they're also one of the biggest factors on our housing here in Charlottesville.
01:07:41
Now we have a new president at UVA that gives us an opportunity to work with
01:07:46
the University and make them be a good community partner.
01:07:51
I've said before we need to seek out businesses that are friendly to our needs, right?
01:07:55
UVA is our largest business and we need to see what they can do for us.
01:07:59
It's really time for them to start paying attention to this stuff.
01:08:02
If they are hesitant, as they have been, about a living wage, we need to be a little more aggressive from the city.
01:08:07
We don't need, you know, to cooperate on everything.
01:08:10
Cooperation is a means to an end.
01:08:12
The end is what we want is a living wage for all the employees there, direct and contracted employees.
01:08:18
And there are many ways we can go about that.
01:08:20
Expanding contractor access to UVA is not going to get a living wage for those employees that work for the contractors.
01:08:26
We need to get them to do something about student housing.
01:08:30
They do not house enough of their own students and it's really, really hurting us out here.
SPEAKER_12
01:08:36
Anyone else want to address that question?
01:08:38
Andrew?
SPEAKER_05
01:08:39
I think also we need to assist our residents and small business owners in either expanding or you're going out and starting a business.
01:08:48
I was born in Detroit and Detroit, Michigan relied heavily on the big three.
01:08:54
you know the motor companies and then I don't want to live in a city or an environment that is completely contingent upon this university or this one entity I think that we need to focus on you know looking into some other options and also you know
01:09:09
work with some small businesses or create initiatives that will allow our local businesses here also to grow.
01:09:17
So when people, when they think about Charlottesville, they're not only thinking about UVA.
01:09:22
I mean, I just think that's too much power.
01:09:24
And I think that we have the opportunity to go ahead and move forward and make sure that people have employment regardless of what UVA is doing.
01:09:32
That's fine.
01:09:33
And I want to see more people that live in Charlottesville get an education and not just UVA students.
01:09:37
How many people here that live within the city limits don't even have vocational training?
01:09:42
And then the emphasis is UVA.
01:09:44
So we need to find a balance, and that's only going to happen with balance representation November 8th.
Kathy Galvin
01:09:49
Kathy, did you want to answer that?
01:09:51
Yes.
01:09:51
I just think that the UVA, again, has been mentioned already in the orange dot, that that is the anchor that was mentioned that would provide the jobs that the hub would then connect to job opportunities and businesses in the community.
01:10:05
But there's other things that can be done that other universities have been doing.
01:10:09
For example, the University of Kentucky actively promotes and builds, develops workforce housing around its perimeters.
01:10:17
That's something that we could consider and working on the Planning and Advisory Council, the PAC, with UVA would be a good way to go.
01:10:27
The other thing to consider is that, and bringing up again what Mr. Williams has talked about,
01:10:33
We do need to diversify our economy.
01:10:36
Having a company town is the reason why we have very depressed wages.
01:10:41
The more industry we get in this town, the more businesses, the more we'll have competitiveness in the wage market.
01:10:48
So again, it's one of those things that can help us all if we get a little bit more diversity in our economy.
SPEAKER_12
01:10:57
All right, the next question is, what do you see as the role of the neighborhood associations in decision making related to capital improvements, traffic calming, and other planning issues?
01:11:10
Would you change the current model?
01:11:13
Mr. Huja.
Satyendra Huja
Member, City Council
01:11:14
I think they need to play a very important role in capital improvements because it affects them.
01:11:21
If you're going to build a site right in front of my house, I want to know what the hell you're doing there.
01:11:25
So they ought to have some input into that process and to make sure that what benefits their neighborhood and their community and they need to be active part in that process of designing and building their community.
Bob Fenwick
01:11:43
Well, I agree the neighborhood should be the ones that drive this conversation.
01:11:46
They know their neighborhood better than anybody else.
01:11:50
And I have been in neighborhood meetings where the neighborhood people say, we want a sidewalk here, we want a blinking light going to this school crossing, any number of things.
01:12:06
And when they talk to the city, almost invariably what they get back is we don't have the money for it.
01:12:12
so that's a lot of the things we're talking about tonight come down to the economic situation in our city whether we're going to promote job growth and if we do we don't have to raise taxes the sales tax will come in we'll have more sales taxes and then we and then the neighborhoods will actually be making the decisions of how that money is spent
Dede Smith
01:12:37
Dee Dee.
01:12:38
Coming from an incredibly active neighborhood association, the Fry's Spring neighborhood association, which is very much on top of what is happening in the city as it pertains to our neighborhood, I can appreciate the role the neighborhood association plays.
01:12:53
There are people in our neighborhood association that really go to the PAC meetings and they are really on top of everything.
01:13:00
That said, there are other neighborhoods that don't have strong neighborhood associations.
01:13:04
So I think we have to be careful about giving too much power to neighborhood associations per se.
01:13:10
At the same time, we should be working actively to get all of our neighborhoods to have strong advocates for the issues that impact their neighborhoods.
01:13:21
It's one vehicle to get citizen input.
01:13:24
We need multiple vehicles to get citizen input and to be sure that we're getting all of the perspectives that we need to make these important decisions.
SPEAKER_05
01:13:35
Award system would help that and resolve a lot of those issues that's oriented with that in the first place.
01:13:41
And while we can't force people to get involved and force people to get engaged, it's elections like these.
01:13:47
I mean, you have a lot of independence running and it's a lot of key issues on the table.
01:13:52
The city needs to find ways to encourage people to be engaged.
01:13:57
or, you know, like a Segway or basically bridge that gap between our Charlottesville corporate government and the resident.
01:14:06
And that's what we can do on November the 8th, you know, depending on who you elect.
01:14:12
A ward system would be great.
01:14:14
That would contribute to balanced representation.
01:14:17
But in the meantime, because that will take time, in the meantime, there's some independence that you could put on council with a different perspective and we can tackle some of these issues.
01:14:27
In order to provide a new solution, you need a new perspective.
SPEAKER_12
01:14:32
OK, Kathy Galvin.
01:14:34
All right, let's see.
01:14:37
Code of the Federal Register 964 of 24 CFR gives residents, somebody knows their stuff, gives residents the right to organize and be involved in all aspects of decision making.
01:14:50
Currently, CRHA, Charlottesville Redevelopment Housing Authority staff, this person says, does not support residents being involved.
01:15:01
What will you do if elected to ensure that residents are involved in all aspects of decision making?
Kathy Galvin
01:15:10
So this is residents of public housing and being involved with decision making on what levels?
SPEAKER_12
01:15:20
Is the person still here who asked this question?
01:15:23
All aspects.
01:15:26
Okay.
01:15:27
Everything.
01:15:28
Okay.
01:15:29
Thank you, Joy.
Kathy Galvin
01:15:29
Again, at this point in time, the CRHA is a separate board from city council.
01:15:35
We have formed a memorandum of understanding to be working together for the redevelopment and redesign of the public housing sites.
01:15:46
I do know that there is city representation on the CRHA board.
01:15:50
Having said that, I don't
01:15:53
at this point understand exactly how much a city council person can impact CRHA policy unless they are a member of that board.
01:16:02
I just want to get that out clear.
01:16:04
Now, when I was in Boston, I did work for the Boston Housing Authority and I also was on site management.
01:16:12
One of the models that I saw worked very well
01:16:15
was that when you had real resident involvement with management right down to maintaining evictions and rent collections and maintaining the properties.
01:16:28
What that did is it cultivated a sense of ownership and in fact many of the sites that we saw actually were run better, had better rapport with all their residents when there was that sense of ownership on site.
SPEAKER_06
01:16:45
If regulations aren't being followed then it's the council's responsibility to make sure that those regulations are being followed.
01:17:00
Specifically when we talk about public housing, this is a group of people that I think in our collective consciousness we don't
01:17:09
considered to be full citizens for some reason.
01:17:12
These are real neighborhoods with real people and they should have just as much influence as a neighborhood association and probably even more.
01:17:21
You know, we can go down, we have master planning processes for all kinds of things.
01:17:25
We need to be meeting in public housing once a week and as we go through what's called redevelopments.
01:17:30
It's a very scary thing for these people who live in these neighborhoods.
01:17:33
We need to really, really listen to what they have to say and give them direct decision-making authority
01:17:38
and appoint residents of public housing to the CRHA.
SPEAKER_12
01:17:42
And elaborate a little bit what you mean by it's a scary thing to live in these neighborhoods.
SPEAKER_06
01:17:46
It's the thought of redevelopment, the term redevelopment, that some outside forces are coming and just telling you what you're going to do with your neighborhood.
01:17:55
This is their neighborhood.
01:17:56
They need to have the final say in everything that happens to that.
SPEAKER_12
01:18:01
In the past years, the city has funded organizations that were in place to help people in the community and have not produced results.
01:18:11
How is the city prepared to help new organizations willing to produce results?
01:18:18
Did I ask you right, Debbie?
01:18:20
Okay.
Dede Smith
01:18:22
Well, I can take a shot at that.
01:18:25
I mean, I do think it's actually vitally important that any city-funded program have goals and a way of measuring whether those goals are being met.
01:18:35
And one of the, I don't know how the city would facilitate this, but it's important to look at models that have been tested because the
01:18:47
The way that we go about funding programs isn't always done in a way that assures that there will be some way of not only measuring, but that it's going to do what it says it's going to do.
01:19:02
And this is particularly important when we're dealing with people because some of these programs actually, when tested, have been shown to actually do more harm than good.
01:19:13
And so I think we need to be extremely careful
01:19:15
and it is the city's responsibility if they're funding to be sure that they're not, you know, throwing money just because it sounds good.
Satyendra Huja
Member, City Council
01:19:23
Just to indicate to you, the city does have now a process of doing that evaluation.
01:19:29
They're setting goals, objectives, as well as performance measures for each program so that, and they're being monitored now starting this year.
SPEAKER_12
01:19:41
Okay, Mr. Williams, one more.
SPEAKER_05
01:19:44
You know, the powers that be have plenty of opportunities to start this, you know, years ago.
01:19:48
And perhaps we wouldn't be, you know, having some of these issues.
01:19:53
I think that we need to look at how we're spending money and making sure that the way that we're spending money is more so as an investment instead of throwing money at the problem.
01:20:01
I think that we need to get a diverse perspective to come up with some really good solutions and make sure that the companies or the contractors or the non-profits that we're supporting do have measurable goals to the extent, you know, reasonably.
01:20:16
But if we're spending tax dollars, you know, people's monies
01:20:21
on initiatives that aren't working, we need to revisit some of these plans and some of these initiatives and figure out how to redirect those funds when appropriate and when we have the opportunity to do so.
01:20:33
Also, a key component of my platform is city service reinforcement.
01:20:37
I think that we should make sure that the departments that are supposed to be open until 5 p.m. remain open until 5 p.m. and you can't get someone to answer the phone at 4.30.
01:20:46
If they're supposed to open at 9, I think they're supposed to open at 9 o'clock.
01:20:49
We need to go ahead and expand those services for the working class here in Charlottesville.
SPEAKER_12
01:20:55
All right, according to this question, Nestle Waters gave the Virginia Nature Conservancy a million dollars to create a pilot project that would increase the locale's water storage capacity.
01:21:09
The city's proposed 50-year water supply plan came largely from the Nature Conservancy.
01:21:16
Does that conflict of interest bother you?
SPEAKER_11
01:21:22
Scott?
SPEAKER_10
01:21:25
Ugh.
01:21:27
Yes, because it was underhanded as far as in relationship to the Democrat primary earlier August 20th.
01:21:35
And no, because if the issue of either the existence of the RWSA or the dredging or the dam were put on a referendum, then no.
01:21:50
This would have been a moot matter because both sides of these issues would have had a fair say
Satyendra Huja
Member, City Council
01:21:57
I don't think there was a, this panel was developed with a wide participation of the community, including in different groups.
01:22:08
I don't think there was any influence by Nestle's or anybody like that.
01:22:12
I think it's just a false statement in my mind.
SPEAKER_12
01:22:17
Mr. Fenwick?
Bob Fenwick
01:22:19
Well, Nestle doesn't just make chocolate bars.
01:22:22
Nestle makes water, drinking water.
01:22:25
And the water they sell sells for three times the cost of gasoline.
01:22:30
They make a lot of money.
01:22:32
As I was going around the city and still am going around the city and people talk about dredging, they start to stutter and stammer.
01:22:42
and within seconds their hands come into play.
01:22:45
They just can't figure out why this community is about to commit hundreds of millions of dollars on a project that we will not need for 30, 40, maybe 50 years.
01:22:57
The Nestle connection could be what started all this.
01:23:01
So it does bother me.
01:23:02
It bothers me greatly.
Dede Smith
01:23:05
I think the thing to remember, and I'm very concerned about outside influences on the decision on whether to build this large dam and pipeline because everything on the table belongs to the city and the city is
01:23:21
primed to lose major assets, including the South Fork Rivanna Reservoir, including decommissioning the Sugar Hollow Reservoir, both of which we own, and including losing 200 acres of parkland, which is city owned.
01:23:36
So the city has a lot to lose in this particular plan.
01:23:41
So the very idea that it would have the influence of very large corporations
01:23:46
one of which, Nestle, the Nature Conservancy itself is an international five billion dollar organization and I think it's the role of city councilors to protect city assets and that is what we've asked all along is that the city council play the role of protecting the city assets.
Kathy Galvin
01:24:05
I would just like to remind the public that the water plan was also supported not only by the Nature Conservancy but also by the Piedmont Environmental Council, the League of Women Voters, and these are very reputable groups.
01:24:21
No one has been bought and sold on this particular deal.
01:24:24
It is a very important piece of growth management in the region.
01:24:28
It is involving both the city and the county because it is very much intended to keep our boundaries from sprawling into the rural lands around Almonte County.
01:24:41
This is part of what we mean by shared growth management strategy.
01:24:46
So if we want to truly protect the watershed,
01:24:49
We are not going to be sprawling past the growth area boundaries of Albemarle County.
01:24:54
If we really do mean that we want to sustain our economy for our people that live here, we will be providing water and adequate roads to the people that live within the city and also the urban ring.
01:25:07
That is what's keeping our footprint, our regional footprint, small.
01:25:10
That is what's keeping us from sprawling into that farmland, which might very well feed us someday.
01:25:16
It already is.
SPEAKER_12
01:25:18
I'll take one more because I know it's something about this water issue that gets people going.
01:25:22
So I saw Mr. Williams' hand first, Brandon.
01:25:26
Or you want to?
SPEAKER_05
01:25:27
Well, he is a friend of mine.
01:25:28
I mean, if you want to say something.
01:25:30
Oh, that's sweet.
01:25:31
That's a late connection.
SPEAKER_06
01:25:33
All right, here's what I would very much like to see out of this.
01:25:37
I would like for all the city councilors, all the candidates, the RWSA to be just extremely upfront about the cost of all of this.
01:25:47
We have not gotten real solid numbers on the cost.
01:25:51
What we do know is that expensive dam and pipeline is going to be in the hundreds of millions of dollars
01:25:57
What we're still would like to know a little more about is the cost of dredging which has been at a high estimate put around 30 million dollars at a very low estimate depending how we could do it could be very very much less than that.
01:26:10
These are things I think we need to consider.
01:26:13
We have adequate water supply we are not going to run out of it.
01:26:16
What happens if we have too much water and why Nestle is involved and why Nestle helped the Nature Conservancy make the plan
01:26:26
The same plan that we have for this dam and pipeline came from the Nature Conservancy with help from Nestle.
01:26:32
We have too much water.
01:26:34
Nestle can help us with our debt at a later date.
01:26:38
I think we should all commit to never privatizing our water supply at all, ever.
SPEAKER_12
01:26:45
All right, Mr. Fenwick, this question is specifically for you.
01:26:48
If you believe in partisan politics and competition, why aren't you running as a Republican or another party's candidate?
Bob Fenwick
01:26:57
Well, I don't think the Republicans would take me.
01:27:01
I'm against the Meadow Creek Parkway.
01:27:04
I say dredge first, stand later, and I think the Republicans are probably the opposite side of both of those.
01:27:10
And what was the last part of that question?
SPEAKER_12
01:27:12
It says, why aren't you running as a Republican or another party's candidate?
01:27:17
if you believe in partisan politics and competition.
Bob Fenwick
01:27:19
A little bit of my background, I was raised a Roman Catholic and we thought the sun rose and set with JFK and Hubert Humphrey and I have always voted for the issue instead of the party.
01:27:33
So I feel very comfortable being right in the middle.
01:27:37
And in our present
01:27:39
In this present Democrat-Republican big fight we're having all over the place, I think I could be right in the middle to hold those two sides apart, for one thing, and sort of settle things down.
01:27:51
I have friends on both sides that I couldn't put together, but if I'm there with them, I can keep them apart and we can get things done.
SPEAKER_12
01:28:00
I take it you want to answer as an independent, Andrew, as to why?
01:28:03
Let me address that question to you then.
01:28:06
Why are you not running as a Democrat or Republican?
SPEAKER_05
01:28:08
Well, because truly, I'm not a Democrat or a Republican.
01:28:11
Now, granted, I did grow up with a lot of Democrats.
01:28:16
I think it's just by default.
01:28:17
I think it's beyond 85% of black people may be Democrats, but I don't know why.
01:28:23
It's like, why is it something that I'm born into?
01:28:26
I wanted to think for myself.
01:28:28
And here at the local level,
01:28:30
I saw an opportunity to fill a gap and we need some more pure representation here on council so I'm very happy that Bob, Scott and Branding is still running as independents because I think this will contribute to better government and I think that better government or more resident oriented government would serve the public better.
01:28:54
and, you know, being a city councilor, I think that we're responsible for the Charlottesville residents and we're responsible for the business owners, the small business owners.
01:29:02
So, even if Albemarle County and some, you know, other surrounding, you know, entities or elements want to do their own thing, my relationship and my responsibility is to you and I think that those characteristics are independent and they are pure and that's why I'm running.
SPEAKER_12
01:29:17
Alright.
01:29:18
If you are willing to spend money on attracting people to Charlottesville,
01:29:23
All right, let me try to figure this question out.
01:29:26
Can grow, wouldn't the education and eventually hopeful advancement of our poverty stricken citizens be the same as new people coming so Charlottesville grows?
01:29:36
I'm not sure I'm asking this question right.
01:29:38
Is the person here who wrote it?
01:29:40
Okay, because I don't want to botch the question.
01:29:42
Yeah, what's your question?
SPEAKER_11
01:29:43
My question is, if you're willing to spend X number of dollars working new people, why not spend the same amount of money
01:29:53
for the education advancement of those living in poverty because when they get to the level that the people coming in, it would be the same as growth.
01:30:03
Is that possible?
01:30:05
Okay.
Kathy Galvin
01:30:06
Well, I'm going to talk about the adult population first because what I do remember reading about is in Louisville, Kentucky, when they were dealing with the closing of all their manufacturing plants and they knew they had to do something really fast to supply new work for people.
01:30:23
And they went and they began to understand that there was a lot of issues with skill level for the new work that was going to be available.
01:30:31
And they also began to understand that there was a serious, serious problem with some of the basic educational foundation of the adults.
01:30:38
So what they did is they partnered really intensely with the community college as well as the adult learning centers and they tied them to employers.
01:30:48
That's exactly the model that I would love to see here.
01:30:51
And that's something that could go hand in glove with the Orange Dot project that is all about bringing jobs here.
01:30:57
We do want to make sure that we're preparing the people that live here for the kinds of jobs that are going to be sustaining us in the 21st century.
01:31:06
We're not going to bring back shoes.
01:31:07
We're not going to bring back steel.
01:31:09
We've got to think about different things, though.
01:31:12
Greenville, South Carolina brought in Proterra.
01:31:15
They made electric buses, brought in a lot of work to replace the furniture manufacturing plants.
01:31:20
That was the first rung on a ladder that let people crawl out of some serious economic hardship.
01:31:27
Okay.
SPEAKER_11
01:31:28
Well, tell me your name again, ma'am.
SPEAKER_12
01:31:29
Joy, thank you for asking that question and sorry I messed it up, but thank you for clarifying.
01:31:34
Andrew, you wanted to expound on that?
SPEAKER_05
01:31:36
I think it can be done independently.
01:31:38
I think that we need to try to address this issue a way that it hasn't been done before.
01:31:44
I think that if we take partisan politics outside of the equation, we can look at a pure solution, not trying to make sure that
01:31:54
You're falling within this political strain or whether or not it's the Democratic belief or the Republican belief.
01:32:03
I believe that we do need to take care of our residents.
01:32:06
We do need to help and support our small business owners so they can, in turn, hire the local residents and making it better for people that live here.
01:32:17
One thing that I said at a previous forum was that I had a concern about how much was spent on public housing in lieu of development or in lieu of vocational training.
01:32:31
I think that while we're taking care of public housing, we also need to make sure
01:32:35
We're doing everything that we can to get people out of a bad condition or out of a tough situation.
01:32:42
To be honest, I don't want to see more public housing.
01:32:45
I want to see more people that are skilled and more people that are trained and are able to go out and buy a house and then contribute to their own neighborhoods.
01:32:54
That's what I'd like to see as an independent.
SPEAKER_12
01:32:57
Bob, you wanted to add to that?
Bob Fenwick
01:32:59
Let me just add to that.
01:33:00
I agree with the general thrust of the question.
01:33:04
And I will broaden it to include business.
01:33:08
And I guess I would call it the bird in the hand theory of business promotion or trying to help people better themselves.
01:33:15
We seem as a city to always be looking over the horizon, which is good.
01:33:19
We can attract new people into the city and it's good for us.
01:33:23
It's good for the economy.
01:33:24
and it's good for everybody in the city, but we should not forget about the people that are already here.
01:33:31
And the same with business.
01:33:32
If we're going to give bonds or
01:33:35
tax breaks to get new businesses to come here, why don't we give them to the businesses that are already here?
01:33:42
This recession is eating businesses.
01:33:45
Almost on a weekly basis, somebody on the mall or around the mall, the storefront is gone.
01:33:52
So while we're attracting new businesses, don't forget about the businesses and the people that are already here.
SPEAKER_12
01:34:03
At this time, does anyone else out in our audience have any questions?
01:34:06
Because Deborah will come around with the microphone, and gentleman in the back there.
01:34:13
We will take your questions for about another 10 minutes or so.
SPEAKER_08
01:34:24
Why do you think it is that VDOT, after spending two years trying to get a permit from the Corps of Engineers to cross a stream,
01:34:32
The day before they were going to be sued for misrepresenting the facts, they decided not to pursue that permit anymore and said they were going to come up with a new plan and started bulldozing an RU4 road that City Council has not even seen a complete design for and that has been shown to actually increase traffic in downtown Charlottesville neighborhoods.
Dede Smith
01:35:04
Sure, I'll talk about this.
01:35:07
Yeah, I think they did that because they knew they'd lose, basically.
01:35:12
It sort of looked that way.
01:35:15
Yeah, it's all along that particular project, very much like the water plan, has had this what appears to be a rather odd
01:35:32
how do I put this but it was cut up into pieces and I as a counselor would not have felt comfortable approving something for which we did not have a full set of plans and a full design and that's true of both of those projects we still don't really know what the parkway is going to look like in the end yet they've already started building it in pieces
01:35:59
and that just seems sort of fiscally irresponsible to me.
01:36:05
The water plan is the same way where we don't, there are
01:36:12
there have been approvals before we even know what the design of the pipeline will be even though the pipeline is required to fill this large new dam.
01:36:22
So the two have similarities and I think it's the responsibility of our elected officials to make responsible decisions based on a full set of design.
SPEAKER_12
01:36:34
Mr. Huja and Mr. Williams.
Satyendra Huja
Member, City Council
01:36:37
I cannot speak for VDOT why they changed their mind, but there are often changes in design when you are constructing projects.
01:36:46
It's not unusual.
01:36:47
But I would say that at Merritt Parkway, there is a design right now.
01:36:52
There are changes which are being done, also being reviewed by the city council, so they are not unknown to us.
01:36:58
and it is a project which will provide good access to downtown, have less impact on residential neighborhoods and provide better access to the park itself.
01:37:08
So I think it is something which is good for our community.
SPEAKER_05
01:37:12
As I said a little earlier, and as Mr. Huja just said, sometimes there are going to be adjustments with plans, but the plan, I think it was kind of like someone shot from the hip.
01:37:24
If I had the opportunity at the time, I wouldn't have supported something without looking more into what the impact is going to be in the long term.
01:37:34
I think that it's going to congest a lot of neighborhoods.
01:37:38
You know, I think that we're going to lose a lot of land.
01:37:40
If given the option, I wouldn't have supported it.
01:37:43
But at the same time, at this point in time, it doesn't look like there would be anything, even upon a successful election, that I or anyone up here would be able to do to reverse that.
01:37:52
However,
01:37:53
If given the option, I, as well as a few others up here, wouldn't want to see the parkway because there was a lot of other alternatives that we did not address.
01:38:02
What about, you know, providing some more funds for public transit?
01:38:06
And, you know, I mean, there's bike lanes.
01:38:09
There's a lot of other alternatives that we could have had.
01:38:12
It was discussed forever and a day.
01:38:14
and it looks like it's going to be built.
01:38:17
But I pretty much think someone shot from the hip, but as in many decisions there are, there needs to be room for adjustment and I think that with good judgment we can make sure that it's the least negative impact on residents, which the water plan doesn't have.
SPEAKER_12
01:38:32
Do we have another question in the audience?
SPEAKER_00
01:38:40
I live in low income housing and one of the things that we're blessed to get checking on the heat in the winter and other things.
01:38:52
But we currently don't have anything to provide any type of rental coverage.
01:38:57
and right now the Salvation Army tends to be full so the money that could go to for staying someplace else would be really helpful and also furniture vouchers are kind of lacking right now so would that be something that the city could support?
01:39:15
Brandon?
SPEAKER_06
01:39:18
Absolutely.
01:39:19
You know, a lot of these things are actually at very low cost to the city.
01:39:24
You know, a million dollars from the city goes a very, very long way when it comes to human needs.
01:39:29
I would jump on what Paul Long, who was in this race, has bowed out and has endorsed me, by the way.
01:39:36
He called for using the current surplus to address immediate needs of the homeless and one of those things is building a homeless shelter.
01:39:46
I would like to add to that call and say there are a few immediate things that we need and we can use some of the surplus for.
01:39:52
One of those is shelter for the homeless as winter comes up.
01:39:56
Pacham is not going to be enough.
01:39:58
One is subsidizing utility bills for people during a tough winter that's going to be coming up.
01:40:04
And I really am interested in these other household needs, other human needs that we need.
01:40:09
And like I say, you know, a lot of these things can be done at low cost.
01:40:13
We could do them right now.
01:40:15
Immediate needs.
01:40:16
There's a ton of other immediate things we can do.
01:40:18
And maybe I'll get into that later.
SPEAKER_12
01:40:21
Okay.
01:40:21
We had another question here.
Satyendra Huja
Member, City Council
01:40:23
Just to inform on this item, there is a program where the city does help low income families with utility bills, and it is available.
SPEAKER_12
01:40:34
Okay.
01:40:35
Thank you for your question.
SPEAKER_01
01:40:38
Last December, City Council proclaimed Charlottesville to be a city of second chances, and urged earlier employers not to discriminate against ex-offenders.
01:40:47
What state steps will you take to encourage private employers to hire ex-offenders?
01:40:53
Okay, good question, good question.
01:40:55
Kathy?
Kathy Galvin
01:40:56
I think that's an excellent question and I do remember attending a re-entry summit a while ago.
01:41:03
At the same time, Almonte County was holding its economic summit.
01:41:07
It was a very interesting kind of contrast that we should have been having our combined economic re-entry summit because there was not an employer
01:41:16
It was not a business in that entire room.
01:41:20
And we all gathered in groups that day.
01:41:22
I remember we talked a lot about it.
01:41:23
I think that gave rise to such an urgency to get the Minority Business Opportunity Council going.
01:41:31
I still think we need to actually have another roundtable getting people like Tim Halpert, who sponsored the Orange Dot Project, with members of the re-entry
01:41:44
community and find out exactly what are the action steps that we need to take to go from point A to point B.
01:41:52
Somebody talked about the dialogue on race needing to be moved into another phase.
01:41:57
Well, perhaps it should be move on to an action phase for economic justice and equity.
01:42:03
And that could be one of the first things we do, really get that concrete.
01:42:08
And I totally support that.
SPEAKER_12
01:42:10
Okay, we'll take one more answer.
Bob Fenwick
01:42:11
Mr. Fenwick?
01:42:14
I say no roundtables, no plans, no committees, no task forces.
01:42:19
I have hired ex-offenders.
01:42:21
They are good workers.
01:42:23
You can teach them.
01:42:23
I know other contractors who have hired ex-offenders.
01:42:27
The people watching this across the city, they know that you have to be careful with ex-offenders as well.
01:42:33
You don't put them in a position where it might compromise your business.
01:42:37
but you'd be surprised at the skill level.
01:42:40
Not only the construction skills but the writing skills, the videography skills.
01:42:45
So I'm a big supporter of the re-entry program and we ought to get them back in our society.
01:42:53
If we can keep a man out of prison, not only do we save, or the jail, not only do we save $25,000 a year, but we might save his children as well.
01:43:03
If we lose a man, we lose the child.
01:43:06
Then we got two problems.
01:43:07
So I'm asking the people of Charlottesville to look at this and listen.
01:43:12
When these groups come in front of city council and talk about what they're doing for ex-offenders, listen to what they say.
01:43:19
They have to be at the table.
SPEAKER_12
01:43:21
Okay.
01:43:22
All right.
01:43:22
Before we move on to your closing statements, I want to ask that each of you answer this question.
01:43:29
I'm sure you have taken the time to study your opponents and you learn where they stand on issues.
01:43:36
Some you have some things in common and some you do not.
01:43:40
Before I hear your closing statements, I want Scott for you to tell me which Democrat you see yourself working with and why.
01:43:50
And Cathy, I want you to tell me which independent you can see yourself working with and why.
01:43:55
And go on from there.
01:43:56
Scott, it's on you.
01:43:59
Of the three Democrats, who do you see yourself working with?
SPEAKER_10
01:44:03
Probably Mr. Huja.
01:44:05
And why?
01:44:07
Not because he's for the dam, but he had the tenacity to at least stand up and say to his credit that the one thing that matters is water coming out of the spigot.
SPEAKER_12
01:44:23
Okay, and we're going to take 30 seconds for this because I want to be sure that you all have enough time for your closing statements that that gets on there.
01:44:29
Kathy Galvin, of The Independence.
Kathy Galvin
01:44:32
I would say Mr. Williams because I admire his hard work ethic, his tenacity.
01:44:39
He gets up early in the morning, works late at night.
01:44:42
He's going to school and he's also doing this.
01:44:44
I am completely in awe of that and I think that's the kind of dedication that would serve the city well.
SPEAKER_05
01:44:52
Oh, thank you.
01:44:53
It was so heartwarming, oh my God.
01:44:57
It's difficult.
01:44:58
It's difficult to make a decision because, you know, people up here, you know, I mean, oh my God, I mean, anyone, but you know, I'm going to return the favor.
01:45:07
I think that we all, Ms. Galvin, I think I would be more than happy to work with her
01:45:11
She is result oriented.
01:45:14
She will have a plan.
01:45:15
She will execute on it.
01:45:16
I mean, I have no doubt in my mind.
01:45:17
There's no concern.
01:45:19
If she was given the opportunity for a leadership position that you can sleep well at night because she's going to make sure it's done.
Satyendra Huja
Member, City Council
01:45:26
Well, I would also support Mr. Williams because I think you need a variety of opinions on the council.
01:45:33
We also need minority representation in the council.
01:45:35
We also need some views from the council.
01:45:38
So I think he fits all the bills.
Bob Fenwick
01:45:40
You're getting a lot of endorsements, Mr. Williams.
SPEAKER_12
01:45:41
Yeah, yeah, that's great.
01:45:42
All right.
Bob Fenwick
01:45:42
Well, I'm going to break the pattern because if I had somebody to work with, I would choose D.D.
01:45:47
Smith.
01:45:48
If there's a problem,
01:45:49
I would call Didi.
01:45:50
I have a military background.
01:45:52
If my western front is collapsing, I'd say, send Didi there.
01:45:55
She can fix it.
Dede Smith
01:45:58
Oh, this is a really hard question.
01:46:01
I would be honored to work with anybody up here.
01:46:05
and think that everybody brings a special gift and talent and perspective to this race.
SPEAKER_12
01:46:13
Of the Democrats.
01:46:15
Of the Independents.
Dede Smith
01:46:16
All the Independents do.
01:46:19
Frankly, I'm going to abstain from this and I apologize for that, but there isn't anybody I would want to disrespect here because I think everybody has a wonderful gift to bring.
SPEAKER_06
01:46:35
Well, you know, in a way I kind of share Dee Dee's sentiment.
01:46:38
I think everybody here has a concern for our city.
01:46:41
I don't think we're in danger of falling to fascism, for example, under this group of people.
01:46:48
I wish we could all serve on council.
01:46:49
I think it would make a really healthy, healthy city if we had all the views represented here today on our city council.
01:46:57
That's one reason why I support expanding the city council.
01:47:00
But I think I would have to say Dee Dee.
01:47:02
I'm not going to duck the question.
01:47:04
I think Dee Dee shares my political philosophy.
01:47:07
It's closest to it than anybody else on this team.
SPEAKER_12
01:47:11
And know that this is no disrespect to anyone else.
01:47:14
No disrespect to anybody.
01:47:16
We're only on one choice.
01:47:17
We're only on one choice.
SPEAKER_10
01:47:18
We have a point of clarification.
01:47:19
The only reason I didn't say Dee Dee is because we're from the same neighborhood.
01:47:24
We have those conflict of interests.
SPEAKER_12
01:47:27
We are now going to move on to our closing statements.
01:47:30
So at this time, I'm going to start with Mr. Collins and work our way down.
01:47:38
One minute.
SPEAKER_06
01:47:40
Alright, well this election I think is going to set things for the long term in a big way.
01:47:49
Beyond just the water issue, beyond the parkway issue, those issues almost seem done but they're not.
01:47:54
We have a chance to do something meaningful about that.
01:47:56
Those are big decisions that are very costly that are going to be things that we pay interest on for a very long period of time.
01:48:05
That interest
01:48:06
is not going to be available for social programs.
01:48:10
I consistently stand up for working people, poor people, unemployed people, people with disabilities in this city and I think they will be underrepresented if somebody like me is not elected to the council and so far I don't think there's somebody like me specifically representing those people.
01:48:28
The choice has been laid out, and it really is whose needs are we going to meet?
01:48:33
Is it our residents?
01:48:34
Is it our underserved and underappreciated residents?
01:48:37
Or is it going to be the needs of developers and business interests?
01:48:41
I'm going to move for guaranteed employment and expansion of public transit and a lot of things, but I'm out of time, so thanks.
Dede Smith
01:48:49
Well, first of all, I'd like to thank you, Ms. Copeland, and to the League of Women Voters for this opportunity for all of our city residents to learn a little bit more about this election and to get involved in our future government.
01:49:04
As you all have heard tonight, we have some very interesting, very serious challenges before us, and I think it's fitting that as we begin a year of celebrating the 250th birthday of Charlottesville,
01:49:19
both honoring and confronting our history that we go forward in this new century and find new opportunities to get beyond where we've been and what we have before us and so that we can serve all of our residents and all of our residents equally and I truly, truly believe that.
01:49:40
and I look forward to whoever is on this council.
01:49:46
We have some amazing people running and amazing people on our council already.
01:49:51
So I think I would be honored to work with any of them.
01:49:55
I hope you all will come out on November 8th and have your voice heard.
Bob Fenwick
01:49:59
This could be the most important election that we have in a generation.
01:50:07
This is an election that will determine whether we go with the people's interests or the special interests.
01:50:14
Nothing that was said here tonight will make one bit of difference unless the men and women in this room and across the city and those watching come out on November 8th and vote.
01:50:26
Rain or shine, warm or cold, you have to come out and vote to make a difference.
01:50:33
You can determine the direction this city will take for at least the next two to four years.
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We can make our vision of this city a reality, but you have to come out on November the 8th.
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So thank you.
Satyendra Huja
Member, City Council
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I'm excited about the possibility of continuing service to my community.
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I listen and be proactive in dealing with community needs.
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I will work to improve the quality of environment, promote balanced transportation, improve deteriorating infrastructure, promote quality education and diversity in workforce development, and provide for safe and decent neighborhoods.
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But I will work with all the citizens to make sure this is a better community for all the citizens, not just for a few.
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And I'll seek your support from me, Kathy Galvin, and Dee Dee Smith on November 8th.
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Thank you.
SPEAKER_05
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I'll seek your support for either Andrew Williams, Scott Bandy, Brandon Collins, or Bob Fenwick.
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We need a different perspective.
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And while everyone up here are good people, I say that personally, there's no bad vote per se, I think that Charlottesville needs to move in a direction that's going to help the long term and to give a large chunk of government back to the people.
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And that's going to happen with the independent vote.
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Various work experiences have enabled me real-life understanding of how people are impacted by good and bad decisions.
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Unfortunately, we're an environment that gives way too much power to large companies, special interests, and closed-door networks that don't truly represent the needs of the many, but benefits the few.
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I know how this system works and while I am young and sincere, I'm very confident that I can serve the resident and I can serve the public in this regard.
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And I may not be the most book smart up here, but I am experienced and I am open-minded.
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I'm not stuck in my ways, so to speak.
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So, andrewforcivo.com and I would appreciate you coming out regardless of who you vote for.
Kathy Galvin
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Okay.
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Again, thank you.
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We can't create jobs, improve public transportation, or reinvest in our schools and neighborhoods and corridors without managed growth.
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But we can't grow without public buy-in.
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We also need to know how to foster healthy neighborhood change without displacing people or destroying Charlottesville's unique character and beauty and history.
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Local government must play a role in that, but today the public seems hazy about the overarching vision and confused about the details.
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We need to work together to create that vision, set priorities and follow through with rules of engagement that are clear.
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As an architect and urban designer, I have come across countless localities that could offer guidance and solutions.
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I can bring my professional skills and life perspective to bear on addressing the complex problems that we face.
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I'm trained to connect the dots, and I believe in learning all sides of an issue before making a decision for the common good.
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Please vote for me, Kathy Galvin, along with my ticket mates, Mr. Huja and Ms. Smith, on November 8th.
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Thank you.
SPEAKER_10
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Well, whoever among this group of eight tonight are elected, we ultimately must serve the public and that's you.
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You, the audience here in City Hall tonight and the audience viewing.
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Frankly, I don't feel like I've said much of importance or anything that anyone can walk away with tonight, but that's where the chips fell.
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I want to thank the League of Women Voters and I want to thank our most gracious moderator, Ms. Copeland.
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Please exercise your right to vote on November 8th.
SPEAKER_12
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Thank you all, and Scott I just want to say don't underestimate yourself.
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Somebody I'm sure you're planning a seat somewhere.
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Thank you all, yes.
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I want to give the candidates a hand.
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I appreciate you all being here.
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Don't leave just yet.
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Just hold up.
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And I want to thank our audience and our viewers for tuning in.
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And part of why I wanted this to be aired, because there is a segment of our population that can't get to other forums.
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So we still should have a forum for our community using community television where our community can still know what's going on.
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But as everyone has said, let your voice be heard.
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To the individuals and communities who feel like they're not being, they're disenfranchised or they're forgotten about, let your voice be heard.
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Vote.
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Come to city council meetings, first and third Mondays.
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So you have every right.
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So thank you all very much.
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And Deborah with the Charlottesville League of Women Voters, thank you so much.
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You've been wonderful.
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And we are signing off.
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I have business cards.
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Now, wasn't someone here that had another question that they wanted to address real quick to anybody?
Dede Smith
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Good.
SPEAKER_05
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Thank you all so much.
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Thank you.