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City Council Meeting 5/16/2016
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City Council Meeting
5/16/2016
CALL TO ORDER
ROLL CALL
AWARDS / RECOGNITIONS & ANNOUNCEMENTS
APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS & COMMISSIONS
CITY MANAGER RESPONSE TO MATTERS BY THE PUBLIC
MATTERS BY THE PUBLIC
1. CONSENT AGENDA
2. PUBLIC HEARING / ORDINANCE: Utility Rates (1st of 2 readings)
REPORT: Tree Commission Annual Report
5. REPORT: Integrated Pest Management Annual Report
OTHER BUSINESS
OTHER BUSINESS
MATTERS BY THE PUBLIC
CALL TO ORDER
SPEAKER_04
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Music
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I don't know
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you
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and Michael
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
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OK. Good evening, everyone.
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I'm calling this meeting to order.
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Pledge of Allegiance, please.
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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
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Ms. Rice, will you call the roll?
ROLL CALL
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
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We are going to put at the top of our item an announcement related to a series of memorandums of understanding for collaboration that we are going to vote on tonight in a motion that was voted on last week by our colleagues in the County Board of Supervisors.
AWARDS / RECOGNITIONS & ANNOUNCEMENTS
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
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Very exciting initiative
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to start a new era of regionalism.
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I have a couple words I'm going to say about this by way of introduction and then Chair Liz Palmer and Supervisor Nancy McKeel are going to come up and speak afterward.
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And then if any of my colleagues want to say something, let's all of us say our words first and then if you all could come up that would be great.
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So these MOUs
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I come from a passionate commitment on both of our governing bodies to find the areas that unite us rather than divide us.
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A working group including myself, Vice Mayor Bellamy, Dr. Palmer and Supervisor McKeel began meeting to discuss areas for cooperation and for regionalism.
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We began this effort well aware that too often in the past, and occasionally in the present, we've been at odds.
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But competing with each other doesn't make sense for many areas of public policy, and it doesn't make sense for the citizens of our two areas, nor for our children and our grandchildren.
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These MOUs, that's the fancy acronym for the memoranda, they focus on four areas that all cross boundaries, the environment, transportation, redevelopment, and housing and education.
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The environment doesn't care about political boundaries if you're the Rivanna River or greenhouse gas.
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It makes more sense to find solutions together rather than apart.
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The same goes for the other areas as well.
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Our roads cross our boundaries and our policy solutions should also.
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I want to emphasize that these are not just words on paper.
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They will require both commitment and trust from both sides, including from our staff and our elected officials.
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One Charlottesville was the slogan of my campaign for city council, and I see that as an aspiration not only for the 10 square miles of the city, but for the broader community that considers itself part of the larger Charlottesville area.
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Thank you, and I know that we're all looking forward to joining hands with you and working together to make our region an even more wonderful place to live.
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My colleagues, any
Wes Bellamy
Vice Mayor, City Council
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Just like to reiterate and follow up on our mayor's comments.
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It is absolutely a delight to see our colleagues from the county here.
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And as we stated at the excuse me at the Board of Supervisors meeting last week, we are looking forward to collaborating and working with you.
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This is the beginning and although we have other issues that we need to solve, I'm looking forward once again as well as the rest of our colleagues to working hand in hand to make sure that we do what's best for not only the city, the county, but the area as a whole.
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So thank you all for coming tonight.
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And again, kudos off to you and your colleagues.
Kristin Szakos
Member, City Council
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I'd just like to add that I think that what often makes the news over the generations is bad news.
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Having been a journalist myself, I know that conflict is way more kind of sexy for news than is collaboration.
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But I think that when I go, and I've learned that when I go to Virginia Municipal League meetings or National League of Cities meetings and talk to other places that have city-county relationships, that ours is really one of the best, that we have done a lot of things together over the years, that we do work well together.
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There are occasional things where we kind of rub together because we're close neighbors.
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But I think this is definitely in keeping with the tradition
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of City County Collaboration and I'm really happy to see us doing that.
Kathy Galvin
Member, City Council
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I just say I am very much in support of these MOUs, Memorandum of Understanding.
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and it is really incumbent upon us to put these words into practice and I look forward to doing that.
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I do understand what that means when we actually get things done and one of those is the glorious Ragged Mountain Dam and the new reservoir that we have.
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and the trails around it.
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It was there this past Saturday with my sons.
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And it's really a marvel to behold in that we can do these things when we work together.
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It's really important that we work together.
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So with that, I am seeing this as a start, a fresh start and looking forward to the future.
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Thank you.
Bob Fenwick
Member, City Council
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And it is a tradition.
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It's with the water supply, with the Thomas Jefferson Health District, Jefferson Medicine Library.
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There's any number of things.
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Just last weekend, the police training facility out at Milton was dedicated.
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That was UVA, the city and the county, and it took almost 20 years for that.
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We work best when we work together, so welcome and we will continue.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
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So I'd like to, before the Chair and the Vice Chair come up, would you all, can we do a motion to pass these?
Kristin Szakos
Member, City Council
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I'd like to make a motion that we adopt the Memoranda of Understanding that are in our agenda.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
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Is there a second?
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Second.
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Any further discussion?
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All in favor?
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That carries five to zero.
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Chair Palmer and Vice Chair McKeel, would you all come up and speak to these?
Kristin Szakos
Member, City Council
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And we have cookies at our meeting, so you're welcome to sign.
SPEAKER_13
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Thank you very much for having us and thank you for joining us for our unanimous vote last week, last Wednesday.
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Our board
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pretty much sounded the same way that this council sounds.
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Everybody is very much looking forward to continuing to work on the things that we work well on and improving the places that we that we have to work on.
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And I did I do want to say that the city and the county are forever linked geographically.
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and we really need to resist those forces that try to move us apart and we need to strengthen our relationship and continue to work for economies of scale.
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If we truly believe in the progressive agendas that both bodies have outlined in our comprehensive plans,
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We need to work hard to put the past disagreements behind us and build on those areas in which we already work well together.
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And the health of the city is critically important to the county and vice versa.
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And life is so much better for our citizens when we work together.
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And quite frankly, it's a lot easier for elected officials and staff when we do.
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So our Vice Chair McKeel would like to say a few words and thank you again for having us.
SPEAKER_19
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Thank you.
SPEAKER_11
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Thank you for welcoming us to your house.
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We certainly enjoyed having you in our house last week.
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I ran on common ground, and I think it's really important for our residents in the city and the county, especially where we share borders, certainly in my district, around almost any of these memorandums.
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We can certainly improve the quality of life for our citizens.
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So thank you very much.
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The unanimous votes from both boards are certainly a signal that we want to do that and we appreciate it very much.
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Thanks.
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Thank you.
Wes Bellamy
Vice Mayor, City Council
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We have to do you all like you did us.
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You got to take the picture together.
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All right, one, two, three.
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Got it.
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All right, thank you.
SPEAKER_29
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They're being signed as we speak.
Kristin Szakos
Member, City Council
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He couldn't sign them until we voted.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
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Okay.
SPEAKER_04
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Do we do two copies?
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
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It's like a receipt in a restaurant.
Kathy Galvin
Member, City Council
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The customer copy.
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Great.
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Thank you.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
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All right, terrific.
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Now we're going to go on to our announcing that one item from the agenda, the Steep Hill Street possible condemnation motion has been pulled from this agenda.
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We're going to revisit in a future agenda.
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So if you were here to speak on the public hearing about that tonight, that is it is being postponed.
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And now we're going to move on to other announcements.
Kristin Szakos
Member, City Council
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You want to do proclamations first?
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
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Yes, let's do proclamations first.
Kristin Szakos
Member, City Council
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I happen to have one.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
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Great.
Kristin Szakos
Member, City Council
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All right.
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It is Bike to Work Week, in case you hadn't heard.
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And since it's Monday, you still have all the rest of the week to catch up.
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Whereas bicycling is a healthy, clean, and affordable mode of transportation and recreation used by thousands of citizens and residents of all ages throughout our great Commonwealth.
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And whereas commuting by bicycle helps alleviate traffic congestion and reduce pollution associated with vehicular travel and offers significant mental and physical health benefits to bicyclists themselves.
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And whereas our Commonwealth is the host to many bicycling events, including competitive races,
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sightseeing tours, charitable fundraisers and recreational rides, which in total create a very real economic impact.
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And whereas Charlottesville has been named a silver level bicycle friendly community by the League of American Bicyclists and in the effort to improve upon this designation will continue to recognize the importance of bicycling in urban and community planning and development.
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And whereas Bike to Work Week allows bicyclists to increase awareness of their mode
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emphasizing proper safety precautions for bicyclists and motorists while sharing our roadways and to promote the benefit of bicycling through organized activities such as Bike to Work Day.
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Now, therefore, be it resolved that the members of the City Council hereby recognize the month of May as National Bike Month and the week of May 16th through 20th, 2016, as Bike to Work Week.
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and we encourage all who support bicycling to participate in the events planned and urge all road users to share the road safely.
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And as a non-bicyclist, I admit, I am grateful to bicyclists because, for one, it's a very eco-friendly mode of transportation, but it also means that they're not in cars, which for pedestrians, such as myself, is a lovely thing.
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So thank you to Councilor Galvin and all others who bike to work.
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Is there anyone receiving this today?
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Okay, great.
SPEAKER_20
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Thank you all and especially with the announcement just made between the city and county I hope you'll count us in any way we can help
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with the county and city collaboration where transportation issues do come up.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
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Do you want to introduce yourselves?
SPEAKER_20
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Oh, we should do that.
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Thank you.
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We are three members of the Bicycle Pedestrian Advisory Committee.
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Jake Fox, Ruth Stornetta, one of the longest standing bike advocates for our city, and I'm Scott Paisley.
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Thank you.
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And we also have, as a tradition, it is, as you've noted, Bike Month and Bike Week.
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Our group has, for many years now, presented a community partner award.
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This year, uniquely, we would like to give it to all five members of city council.
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And I'd like just one moment to read our award.
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The 2016 Bicycle and Pedestrian Advisory Committee Community Partner Award presented to Charlottesville City Council in recognition and great appreciation for visionary leadership in pursuit of a safer, greener, and healthier Charlottesville.
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City Council's unanimous adoption of a streetscape for West Main Street ensures improvements for all users and establishes, no pun intended,
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mostly, a concrete commitment to complete streets.
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Thank you all very much.
SPEAKER_04
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Thank you.
Kristin Szakos
Member, City Council
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I just assume somebody's around with a camera.
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Thank you, Page.
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Right, I have a couple of announcements, but I'll wait until the other proclamations are proclaimed.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
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Mental health awareness?
Wes Bellamy
Vice Mayor, City Council
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Yes, sir.
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So here is a proclamation officially declaring
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the month of May as Mental Health Awareness Month.
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So, whereas healthy individuals and healthy communities are essential elements of any strong and vibrant society, and whereas mental illness affects one in five adults each year of all backgrounds, education levels, and socioeconomic status, and more than half of all those suffering with mental illness
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do not receive care and whereas more than one in five adults in Charlottesville lack insurance which creates significant barriers to treatment and whereas stigma against those with mental illness is pervasive worsens the impact of mental illness and leads to discrimination and further harm for individuals with mental illness and whereas many excuse me whereas despite these barriers recovery is possible
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and with treatment individuals can lead full, productive, healthy lives and be contributing members of society and whereas many local agencies such as the Community Mental Health and Wellness Coalition, the Women's Initiative, Region 10, Brave Souls on Fire, On Our Own, the Charlottesville Free Clinic, Mental Health America, Charlottesville Albemarle,
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Vocal and NAMI and AMI are working tirelessly to combat the stigma and provide treatment and recovery services and whereas it is appropriate that a month should be set apart each year for the direction of our thoughts toward mental health and well-being
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Now, therefore, our illustrious mayor, Mr. Mike Signer, hereby proclaims May 2016 as Mental Health Awareness Month in Charlottesville, Virginia, and urges all citizens, government agencies, public and private institutions, businesses, and schools in Charlottesville to recommit our community to increasing awareness and understanding of mental health and the need for appropriate
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and Accessible Services for all people with mental health illnesses.
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And this is signed and sealed on the 16th day of May 2016.
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Ms. Breeden, is she here to accept this?
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Oh, okay, that's great.
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Let's give them a round of applause if we can.
Kristin Szakos
Member, City Council
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very tall.
SPEAKER_02
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So I'm Elizabeth Ervin and I'm one of the co-chairs for the Community Mental Health and Wellness Coalition and also the executive director of the Women's Initiative.
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And I'm here with a few other people including Alice Anderson who's the board chair right now for On Our Own.
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And George Wilcox, who's part of George's Healing House and Erica Vixelio, who was one of the founders of the Community Coalition for Mental Health and Wellness.
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And I just want to take a moment and also name Myra Anderson in particular as someone who has brought this proclamation forward and made sure that this is in front of everyone.
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I want to commend the city council for recognizing this issue as really one of the pressing health issues of our time and just wish that this is something that does stay focused
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on our attention right now.
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The coalition works on four main goals.
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No wrong door, meaning that wherever someone goes for care in our community, they will be able to access treatment, increase and improve service delivery, as well as education and advocacy, one of those things being here tonight with you, and working towards a healthy coalition so we continue to put this issue forward.
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So I just really appreciate the proclamation and the recognition tonight.
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Thank you.
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Thank you so much.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
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Thank you for the work you do.
Kathy Galvin
Member, City Council
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I'd just like to say I really appreciated Councillor Szako's proclamation on bike week.
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The idea of gaining IQ and losing weight while you bike is really appealing, so try it.
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The short announcement I have is about Ragged Mountain, and staff will hold the next public meeting for Ragged Mountain on May 24 at 6 p.m. at Trinity Church on Fontaine Avenue.
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Staff will be presenting potential plan options for consideration and comments.
Kristin Szakos
Member, City Council
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All right, this Thursday, our Town Charlottesville town hall meetings will begin again.
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Our Town Charlottesville is a series of town hall style meetings in all of Charlottesville's neighborhoods.
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It'll begin again for the 2016-2017 year on Thursday, May 19, with a meeting for the Fifeville, Starr Hill, and 10th and Page neighborhoods.
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from 6 p.m. until 8 p.m. at Buford Middle School, 1000 Cherry Avenue.
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Free dinner and childcare will be provided.
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And I'll just take a point of personal privilege to say that I have never missed a town hall meeting in the five years we've had them.
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I am hugely a ferocious advocate for these meetings, and I've been pushing for us to get started on them again.
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And as it turns out, I'm going to miss it.
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So I apologize to the people who do come.
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I hope it will be well attended and that I will hear great things from it.
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and my last announcement is Your Rights as a Renter.
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It's an event on Wednesday, May 25th, next Wednesday at 6.30 at Carver Recreation Center.
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Do you know your rights as a renter?
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If you're not sure, you should attend this educational session on tenant rights.
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We'll provide information on lease agreements, evictions, repairs and maintenance responsibilities, renters insurance, how to address discrimination, and other frequently asked questions.
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Whatever your renting situation is, private home, apartment, subsidized or public housing, you should come and find out what your rights are as a tenant.
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This is being co-sponsored by the Central Virginia Legal Aid Society, Legal Aid Justice Center, Piedmont Housing Alliance, and the City of Charlottesville's Office of Human Rights.
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There will be food provided and child care.
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And for more information, you can contact 434-970-3023.
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And you should also know that the City Department of Neighborhood and Development Services has a tenant and landlord responsibilities booklet.
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For tenants, it's about property maintenance and what your rights are to get an inspection, to have repairs made.
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We have it available in English, Arabic, and Spanish, and can also, I think, get it in other languages if it's requested.
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So you can get that at the NDS office as well.
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That's all I have.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
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Thank you.
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Mr. Bellamy?
Bob Fenwick
Member, City Council
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And I got the easy one tonight because Java, Jefferson Area Board for Aging,
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wants to remind the community that this is Elder Care Month.
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And as I do with so many other things, to find out more information, google Java, J-A-B-A, Charlottesville,
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And when I do this, I understand that not everybody has a computer, but more and more people are getting computers and that's, if you don't have one, the library has computers available.
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So this is one way of getting the word out across the community.
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And I'd also like to note that we have two student groups, well actually probably three or four, one from CHS, Charlottesville High School, and several from Monticello High School.
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with their CAP program.
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And I'm going to leave it at CAP so everybody will wait for you to tell us what CAP is all about.
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And there's also a Boy Scout in the back.
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So it's great to see all these young people come to these meetings.
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Two.
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Oh, I'm sorry.
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We have two of them out there.
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Well, welcome.
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And I'm glad to see all the young people taking advantage of these open meetings.
Wes Bellamy
Vice Mayor, City Council
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Great.
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A couple of quick announcements.
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The first of which is the spray grounds are now back open and each spray ground is open daily from 10 a.m. to 8 p.m. and that's again running from May 14th and they'll be open up until September 18, 2016.
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For more information, please feel free to call Parks and Rec at 970-3260.
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And again, for those who don't know, we have spray grounds at Forest Hills Park, Greenleaf Park, and Belmont Park.
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Another announcement that ties into the proclamation that we just read for the Mental Health Awareness Month, Ms. Myra Anderson, who was just spoken very highly of, they're having a
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event on this Saturday at 3pm at the McEntire Library, excuse me, at the Jefferson Library in the McEntire Room.
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Say that ten times quickly.
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So again, that's Saturday at 3pm.
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The Banks Collage Men's Basketball League will be starting back up Sunday at 2 o'clock at Tomska Park.
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Mayor Signer, Mr. Jones, and Mr. Fenwick will all be playing in it.
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My team has won the championship.
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That's not true.
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Well, I thought you said that.
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No.
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I'll tag in once you've got an injury.
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I'm going to convince them to play in the league this year, but it'll be going on all summer.
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And then lastly, on Monday, excuse me, May 30th, 5.30 p.m. at Tonsil Park, there will be another Black Town Hall.
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and which will have a cookout as well as a town hall.
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So again, that'll start at 5.30.
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The town hall will be from 5.30 to 7.
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Excuse me, the cookout will be from 5.30 to 7.
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The town hall will be from 7 to 8.
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Looking forward to seeing you there.
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I have nothing else, sir.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
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And welcome to all the students here.
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Thank you all so much for coming.
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We really appreciate it when you all come and show up and see civic action in action.
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So we are very grateful for you all being here.
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Daughters of Zion rededication ceremony.
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The Daughters of Zion are hosting a rededication ceremony on May 29th at 2 o'clock p.m. at the Daughters of Zion Cemetery, which is located at Oak and First Street South.
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I will be there to attend and read a proclamation and a reception will follow afterward at Barrett Early Learning Center at 410 Ridge Street.
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Any other announcements from my colleagues?
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Okay.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
00:29:59
Mr. Fenwick, would you mind reading the motion for appointments to boards and commissions?
Bob Fenwick
Member, City Council
00:30:06
Certainly.
APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS & COMMISSIONS
Bob Fenwick
Member, City Council
00:30:09
I would move the following appointments to boards and or commissions for CEDA, Paul Beyer, Human Rights Commission, Laura Kepley, and for the Retirement Commission, myself, Bob Fenwick.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
00:30:26
Is there a second?
Kristin Szakos
Member, City Council
00:30:27
Second.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
00:30:27
Discussion?
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All in favor?
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Motion carries 5-0.
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Thank you.
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Congratulations to all the appointees.
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Mr. Jones, City Manager, response matters by the public from the last time.
CITY MANAGER RESPONSE TO MATTERS BY THE PUBLIC
Maurice Jones
City Manager
00:30:39
Yes sir, Mr. Mayor, there are just a couple of items.
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Miss Naomi Roberts came, she spoke about a possible rezoning in her neighborhood.
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We responded via email to her, provided her some information on the code audit and the fact that any sort of rezoning in that neighborhood would probably be part of that code audit review.
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Miss Ida Lewis came and spoke about bus service on Grady Avenue and our staff is looking into that.
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and we'll have more information for the City Council at the next meeting on that.
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And Mr. Peter Klayman came and spoke about his concerns about accidents and safety along McIntyre Road between the bypass and Harris Road.
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And NDS staff is pulling together information on accidents along that stretch to take a look at safety since the interchange and parkway opened and we should have more information on that in June.
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So I just wanted to provide you with a quick update on those items.
Bob Fenwick
Member, City Council
00:31:32
Now, point of order.
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Was last meeting the one that Miss Ida Mae Brown came and spoke about the bus situation?
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Ida Lewis.
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Ida Lewis, yeah.
00:31:43
Oh, Lewis, that's right.
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Were you going to have anything to say about that?
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I just spoke about that.
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Staff's putting together information on that.
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Okay, you're going to have more next time.
00:31:53
That's correct.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
00:31:57
Any others?
MATTERS BY THE PUBLIC
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
00:31:59
OK. Matters by the public this time.
00:32:02
We have provided for up to 12 speakers publicized at noon the day of the meeting.
00:32:08
There are a limit of three minutes per speaker.
00:32:10
We welcome public comment.
00:32:14
It's an important part of our meeting.
00:32:15
Time is reserved near the beginning and at the end of each regular city council meeting for matters by the public.
00:32:20
Please follow these guidelines if you're here to speak for a public hearing, which we don't have one today because the agenda was moved.
00:32:30
Then you wait to speak on the matter until the report has been presented and public hearing has been opened.
00:32:35
Each speaker has three minutes to speak.
00:32:37
Please give your name and address before beginning your remarks.
00:32:41
Please do not interrupt the speakers, whether or not you agree with them.
00:32:44
Please refrain from using obscenities.
00:32:46
If you cannot follow these guidelines, you'll be escorted.
00:32:49
from City Council Chambers are not permitted to re-enter.
00:32:52
We read these every time.
00:32:53
And this is the timer here.
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When you have three minutes at the beginning, and when it gets to close to the end, that yellow will go on in red when you're at the end, and a chime will tone.
00:33:04
So.
Kathy Galvin
Member, City Council
00:33:05
Excuse me, Mayor Signer.
00:33:07
We still do have a public hearing on the utility rates.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
00:33:10
Oh, I'm sorry.
00:33:10
Excuse me.
00:33:11
I misspoke.
00:33:12
So we have a public hearing on the utility rates.
00:33:13
Excuse me.
00:33:14
My error.
00:33:15
And that sign-up sheet is right here.
00:33:19
So anybody who wants to speak on the utility rates can come and sign up here.
00:33:25
Louis Schultz is the first on the list.
00:33:30
Okay, Kia Wassanar.
SPEAKER_12
00:33:40
Hi, my name is Kia Wassenaar and I'm speaking on behalf of my, oh I'm from Monticello High School and I'm speaking on behalf of my CAP group.
00:33:48
CAP stands for Citizen Action Project and basically it's a project that lasts our entire semester and we study in depth a specific policy issue and look at the pros and cons of it and eventually decide on what we believe the best course of action would be.
00:34:06
So this semester a group of Monticello High School seniors worked on a citizen action project that studied the pros and cons of automated speed enforcement cameras.
00:34:14
We spoke to several local experts on the subject to try and understand how speeding can be combated through the use of the cameras, which detect the speed of passing cars and send tickets to those who are violating the speed limit by a certain margin.
00:34:26
Through these interviews and extensive research, we came to the conclusion that automated speed enforcement cameras can really solve some of Charlottesville's speeding problems.
00:34:34
Locust Avenue and Old Lynchburg Road have been consistently cited as areas that would most benefit from these automated speed cameras.
00:34:41
And although the city has taken measures to calm traffic,
00:34:45
At many major intersections, little has been done to control speeding on smaller commonly used streets.
00:34:52
In fact, using software developed by a local Charlottesville resident, the city's own buses have been recorded as some of the worst violators, as well as taxi drivers and even police officers.
00:35:01
The simple act of increasing one speed from 25 to 35 miles an hour triples the chance of killing someone in an accident.
00:35:08
Using automated speed enforcement cameras to slow drivers down in these areas could seriously reduce the fear and risk of accident that many community members currently face.
00:35:18
Some have criticized these cameras, saying they are an invasion of privacy or a revenue generator.
00:35:23
However, the cameras can only take pictures of the people's license plates who are speeding.
00:35:28
And the revenue generated by the cameras could potentially be put back into other community projects or drive safe programs.
00:35:35
Additionally, areas that have successfully implemented these cameras, such as Baltimore and Washington DC, have seen significant decreases in speed violators.
00:35:44
The current system of enforcement in Charlottesville just isn't sufficient yet.
00:35:48
When it comes down to it, the only people who might have a problem with these cameras are those who are speeding.
00:35:53
We would like to reiterate that speeding is a problem in Charlottesville and urge the city council members to reconsider the use of these automated speed enforcement cameras, especially in areas where community members are already advocating for them.
00:36:05
Thank you so much for your time.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
00:36:07
Thank you.
00:36:09
Shelly Stern.
SPEAKER_00
00:36:17
Good evening.
00:36:17
I'm Shelly Stern.
00:36:18
I live on Florence Road near Reeves Park.
00:36:21
And I wanted to give you a publication from our neighborhood.
00:36:29
So what I've handed to all of council is growing community, a new garden begins.
00:36:34
I'm one of the 12 folks who rent a garden plot down at Reeves Park.
00:36:38
And as many of you know, our two oldest community gardens are over 30 years old here in the city.
00:36:44
And as part of our green city initiatives, community gardening is highlighted as one of the things that our city is promoting.
00:36:51
However, Michie Drive was started two years ago.
00:36:54
and Reeves Park has just begun its second growing season.
00:36:58
And the reason that I'm handing you this publication, it's because I had the opportunity to interview 11 of the 12 gardeners.
00:37:04
And everything we said would happen at the garden has happened and more.
00:37:08
So it is a positive report back of the benefits of community gardening.
00:37:11
And it's brought together people in our neighborhood that might not be represented ordinarily in the Belmont-Carlton Neighborhood Association.
00:37:19
We're more like Carlton and some people call it the Hog Waller neighborhood.
00:37:23
It doesn't have a lot of representation.
00:37:25
In fact, when we took it to our neighborhood association, almost no one knew where Reeves Park was, literally.
00:37:32
And those were the folks who were voting on it.
00:37:34
And so that was a little bit frustrating.
00:37:36
Later this week, I'll send you the four type pages of what our community group did to actually make it happen.
00:37:42
I'm here this evening to
00:37:43
promote the positive stories but also make it easier for the next group of neighbors who would like to have a community garden in their neighborhood and encourage the cities to investigate other cities who make it easier for citizens to grow food together.
00:37:58
For example, Richmond offers
00:38:00
a really easy rental system for vacant city properties.
00:38:05
I understand our logistics are quite different, but it's worth looking into or potentially looking at a property tax reduction for those property owners who would like to offer space for other
00:38:17
in their neighborhood to grow food.
00:38:20
In addition, we worked with Parks and Recreation, we meaning just a small group in our neighborhood, and we encouraged the priority registration for those who live closest to the community gardens so that biking and walking would be possible.
00:38:35
And it's been a really great way to get to know people as you're walking to and from the park with a wheelbarrow like I do from time to time.
00:38:43
I think that's all I want to say and I wanted to encourage you to read our publication and maybe leave it at the library or somewhere else in the city where others could take a peek.
00:38:52
Thank you.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
00:38:53
Thank you.
00:38:55
John Hayden?
00:38:58
John Dove?
SPEAKER_28
00:39:04
Hello.
00:39:06
My name is John Dove and I'm with a CAP group from Monticello, same as Kia.
00:39:10
and my other group members are Mandy McCray and Logan Means and we are here to discuss or propose a future for the Landmark Hotel.
00:39:20
We've done extensive research and interviewed several people including Mr. Fenwick and many business owners on the downtown mall regarding the hotel.
00:39:30
most of which are just referred to as the eyesore.
00:39:33
We've heard rumors that construction will recommence given that John Dewberry's hotel in South Carolina was recently finished.
00:39:40
However, there was also talk of this many years ago and to no avail.
00:39:44
Nothing was completed.
00:39:48
Loose debris blowing up to neighboring businesses, teenagers climbing the building and withering concrete.
00:39:54
The Landmark Hotel has become a large safety concern to our beloved downtown mall.
00:40:00
The structural integrity of the building is approaching a point in which it will no longer be salvageable and we have come to the conclusion among our very professional opinion that we believe for the betterment of the local store owners and the patrons of the historic downtown mall that we believe the building should be condemned and dismantled.
00:40:23
Also, may I have a cookie?
00:40:24
You may have several.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
00:40:26
Everyone may have City Council policy vis-a-vis Ms. Szakos.
00:40:31
So, yes.
00:40:32
And thank you.
00:40:33
You all are doing a great job.
00:40:34
You should switch with us.
00:40:38
Nancy Carpenter.
SPEAKER_10
00:40:47
Good evening, my name is Nancy Carpenter and I live in the Rose Hill neighborhood and I'm here tonight to question about what could be a breach of the public trust during the May 10th Planning Commission meeting.
00:40:58
There were four public hearings during that long meeting and some of you were there, as was I.
00:41:04
My interest that evening was an agenda item on an appeal of a stop work order on Booker Street.
00:41:11
I, too, left the chambers but live streamed the rest of the meeting and that agenda item.
00:41:17
Both the Appellant's Attorney, Mr. Payne, and the NDS staff presented findings of fact during their time.
00:41:24
And at six hours and three minutes into the meeting, like I said, it was a rather long meeting, there was a recess just for the purpose of moving cars because there's a parking lot
00:41:34
Well, at that point the audio was turned off as it usually is during these meetings.
00:41:44
As I was watching, at 6 hours and 16 minutes into the meeting, Ms. Green held up a drawing that she had had a question about during the regular meeting.
00:41:53
Now the audio was off and I'm watching and she has this drawing, one of the
00:41:56
NDS staff members approaches the dais and then sits back down.
00:42:00
So I can only assume that she was asking a question that was pertinent to that particular item.
00:42:05
Now, as a member of the public that was interested in that item, I have no idea what she was asking or what the response was.
00:42:14
And at six hours and 19 minutes, Mr. Payne, who's the Appellant's Attorney,
00:42:20
came back into the chambers.
00:42:22
Mr. Santosky came down the steps.
00:42:24
It looks like still the audio is off.
00:42:27
So it looks like they're having a conversation and they leave.
00:42:31
They're still in recess.
00:42:32
They have not come back to the meeting.
00:42:34
So I'm wondering what was this conversation about?
00:42:37
Was it about the appeal?
00:42:39
Why couldn't the public hear that?
00:42:41
What was being said?
00:42:42
I feel like the audio being off was a definite detriment to understanding what was going on.
00:42:48
So at 6 hours and 23 minutes, Mr. Santosky comes back, as does Mr. Payne and Ms. Robertson, who's an attorney that represents, I guess, the Planning Commission's interest.
00:42:57
And so the action item, they go back into live meetings, so the action item
00:43:01
is for a continuance of the matter until June 10th.
00:43:05
A motion was made, carried and meeting adjourned.
00:43:08
But at no time prior to the recess was the public notified there would be an off-camera out of public eye discussion on this agenda item.
00:43:16
There's no video documentation of the information discussed at this off-camera meeting and so this could be of importance because there is a rezoning request on this same property on which there's a stop.
00:43:29
work order.
00:43:30
So if this is public business, it needs to be done in the public eye.
00:43:35
Do you, the council, breathe community engagement?
00:43:38
You breathe public process?
00:43:39
You breathe transparency?
00:43:42
And why does it seem like the public process was abridged and that transparency was cloaked?
00:43:48
I'm just very curious and would like to have an answer for that.
00:43:51
Thank you.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
00:43:52
Thank you.
00:43:54
Emma Trimble?
SPEAKER_26
00:44:03
Hi, I'm Uma Trimble and I'm here on behalf of my CAF group from Monticello High School and like John we've also been looking into the Landmark Hotel and researching it significantly and the history of the building and upon weeks and weeks and weeks of research and a couple interviews including with Mr. Bob Fenwick we have
00:44:27
We've learned about the structural integrity of the building, and we've heard countless cases of how teenagers have been getting up in the building, and how people have been injured because of certain things in the building, and due to the structural integrity, or lack thereof, my group has determined in the SR.
00:44:55
Professional Opinions that the building should be condemned and dismantled.
00:45:01
Thank you.
SPEAKER_19
00:45:02
Thank you.
00:45:05
Alex Curry.
SPEAKER_01
00:45:14
Hi.
00:45:15
First off, two things.
00:45:16
I want to say thank you for having all of us.
00:45:19
And number two, hi mom.
00:45:21
Love you.
00:45:21
I've always wanted to say that.
00:45:23
Sorry, I had to do it.
00:45:25
So I'm Alex Curry.
00:45:26
On behalf of my CAT group and other Monticello students, we are working on our citizen action policy project.
00:45:34
The past few weeks, my group has been discussing the factors contributing to the demolition of historical buildings on the downtown mall and West Main Street.
00:45:43
We have focused in on the historical buildings and houses on West Main Street surrounding the Blue Moon Diner specifically, also looking into the previous decisions made about establishing the landmark hotel.
00:45:56
We talked with the owner of Blue Moon Diner, Laura Galgano, the Charlottesville City Preservation and Design Planner, Mary Joyce Galla, and Margaret O'Brien of the Charlottesville Historical Society.
00:46:07
With all the research we've done, we've come to the conclusion that we think
00:46:11
It's best to maintain the character of Charlottesville through the preservation of historical buildings.
00:46:16
However, the safety of its citizens is also extremely important, and we understand the need to modernize old buildings and make them more structurally sound and secure.
00:46:26
Contrary to a media portrayal of New York architect Jeff Levine, we found talking to Laura Galgano that he's actually very enthusiastic about protecting the history embodied in these 19th century old homes on West Main Street.
00:46:39
We think he has the right idea with balancing competing ideals of preservation and modernization.
00:46:46
And people come to Charlottesville to escape the big city and embrace the small town culture.
00:46:50
And I just want to say, let's keep Charlottesville true to its historic roots.
00:46:54
Thank you so much for having us.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
00:46:56
Thank you.
SPEAKER_08
00:47:08
Hi, my name is Carrie Schaefer.
00:47:10
I live in Fry Springs and I work at 609 East High Street.
00:47:14
Thank you for letting me speak today.
00:47:16
The matter I want to address before the council is the difficulty of conducting a professional business downtown due to the difficulty with parking there.
00:47:26
I work on East High Street between Park and 7th and finding a spot that allows more than two hours parking is often impossible.
00:47:38
including Maple, East High, East Jeff, and East Market, going one way, between Park Street, which is 6th Street, and 10th Streets.
00:47:49
There are approximately 30 spots total that are not limited to two hours or less.
00:47:57
Okay.
00:48:00
In my building alone, there are 10 people working who all mostly drive to work.
00:48:07
and many of us have clients throughout the day.
00:48:11
So that could take up almost 20 of those 30 spots alone from one building.
00:48:17
Since I don't start my workday before 8.30, by the time I get to work, almost all of those 30 spots are filled.
00:48:25
Meanwhile, permit parking spots in that neighborhood are almost empty for most of the day.
00:48:34
I'm a psychologist and I provide mental health services to clients in Charlottesville.
00:48:42
And I see people on the hour.
00:48:47
Therefore, for me, after every two patients that I see, I have to take off a half an hour to go and move my car.
00:48:56
And that can really take 15 minutes or so.
00:49:01
If I have seven patients scheduled for that day I have to move my car three times and this would add an hour and a half to my work day or alternatively I could move my car twice and lose only one hour a day but see one less person who is in need of mental health services or five people less during the week.
00:49:26
As we heard about the need for mental health services, this is really a serious issue for me as well as many people in that neighborhood, many of whom are lawyers and psychologists or mental health professionals.
00:49:41
Another alternative is to not move my car and get a parking ticket, which I do fairly often because if someone, for instance, has a crisis, oh my god, I'm on yellow.
00:49:54
OK. Or I could pay $5,000 on parking tickets or go to the lot, which I'm afraid to walk to at night in the dark alone as a woman in my late 50s.
00:50:05
I respectively request that the council consider the possibility, this is my main point, of providing people who have offices in those neighborhoods permit parking to provide more spots that are not restricted to two hours.
00:50:22
Thank you.
00:50:23
Thank you.
SPEAKER_23
00:50:26
Nathan Weathers Hi, I'm Nathan Weathers.
00:50:33
This is Sam Kroll.
00:50:35
We are also from Monticello High School here to talk on our CAT project.
00:50:39
As part of our government class throughout this school year, we have been researching and conducting interviews relating to surveillance on the downtown mall.
00:50:46
This subject has been especially concerning to us as young students who often frequent the downtown area, despite tragedies like that of Hannah Graham.
00:50:54
Along the way, we have talked to many intelligent people, including Mr. Jones, who all have had lots to say on the subject.
00:51:01
Although not everyone we have talked to has been in full support of security cameras, we have come to our own conclusion.
00:51:07
We as a group are happy with the current measures being taken to increase security on the downtown mall, and we'd like to thank you and any other city employees for having our best interests at heart.
00:51:16
Thank you for your time.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
00:51:18
Thank you all.
00:51:21
R. Salzman?
SPEAKER_18
00:51:30
Thank you.
00:51:30
My name is Randy Salzman.
00:51:32
I live at 320 Northwest 11th Street in the 10th and Page district, and I will be there.
00:51:38
Sorry you won't be, Kristin.
00:51:40
I'd like to speak briefly and belatedly, I apologize for that, about matters from the public and your new change of policy.
00:51:48
It's about a month and a half old, as I'm sure you're aware of.
00:51:51
I'm in and out of town quite a bit, and I was out of town.
00:51:55
Ironically, tonight you had two members
00:51:58
of the Board of Supervisors here that were here for the fact that matters before the public have an effect on our population and an effect on our public policy.
00:52:11
In May 2012, there was a three to three vote in the Board of Supervisors.
00:52:19
16 of 17 speakers on that day voted or asked the Board of Supervisors to ask VDOT to hold a public hearing over the so-called Western Bypass.
00:52:31
16 of 17
00:52:35
and two of the members who voted against asking VDOT to hold a public hearing were then voted out of office.
00:52:43
One of the reasons were because they totally did not listen to their citizens and that was the proof that 16 of 17 had said please give us a public hearing and they ignored it.
00:52:56
The new policies that y'all have
00:52:59
are actually power corrupts and absolute power corrupts, absolutely.
00:53:04
You have set up a system where not necessarily you, and I don't think any of you, because I voted for almost all of you,
00:53:12
Not necessarily you, but you've set up a system where you can prevent the voice of the people getting to your ears and to your followers' ears, the later city councilors.
00:53:23
So I want to urge you to please go back and relook at that system.
00:53:28
You need public input and you need unbiased public input of people who come at the last moment.
00:53:36
with an idea that needs to be heard.
00:53:40
So please go back and reconsider that.
00:53:41
Thank you very much.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
00:53:44
Thank you.
00:53:46
Okay.
00:53:48
I want to thank everyone for coming and sharing your opinions.
00:53:52
We take them very seriously.
00:53:54
The city manager has taken notes on everything that goes to the staff and he will respond to every single item that
00:54:01
goes to an issue that
Kristin Szakos
Member, City Council
00:54:23
I have a quick question.
00:54:24
Were any of the Monticello students in Memphis in the musical?
00:54:28
It was phenomenal.
00:54:30
It's the musical that they just did.
00:54:32
It was really good.
00:54:32
I don't know if there are any shows left, but it was great.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
00:54:37
And we should say that another thing is for all the wonderful people who are involved in civic affairs here tonight, we have a wide range of boards and commissions that have openings, and they are all on our website.
00:54:47
So please take a look at that and stay involved.
00:54:52
OK, we're moving on to the consent agenda.
00:54:56
Ms. Rice, would you mind reading that?
Paige Rice
Clerk of Council
00:55:02
Item A, minutes for May 2.
00:55:04
Item B, appropriation 2016-17 community development block grant, $407,585.44, second of two readings.
00:55:13
Item C, an appropriation 2016-17 home fund, $69,849, second of two readings.
00:55:20
Item D, an appropriation housing funds for free paint program, $15,000, second of two readings.
00:55:26
Item E, an appropriation loan repayment proceeds from Brown, $43,481 and Brown, $879, second of two readings.
00:55:34
Item F, an appropriation out of school time programs grant for the National Recreation and Park Association in partnership with the Walmart Foundation, $15,000, second of two readings.
00:55:44
Item G in appropriation, Domestic Violence Services Coordinator Grant, $47,481, second of two readings.
00:55:51
Item H in appropriation, CATEC to the CATEC IT Network Academy Project, $47,194, second of two readings.
00:55:58
Item I in appropriation, Charlottesville City Schools to the CCS Enhanced Interns Security Project, $50,000, second of two readings.
00:56:06
Item J in appropriation, Albemarle County Reimbursement for the Gordon Avenue Library Main Level Restroom Renovation Project
00:56:12
2,487.50, second of two readings.
00:56:17
Item K, a resolution.
00:56:18
VDOT transfer of grant funds for construction of McIntire Park Trail Bridge over railroad, $145,599, first of one reading.
00:56:26
Item L, a resolution.
00:56:27
City, county, MOUs, first of one reading.
00:56:29
Item M, a resolution.
00:56:30
Pavilion naming rights, first of one reading.
00:56:32
Item N, a resolution, acquisition of Greenbelt Trail off Meridian Street, first of one reading.
00:56:38
Item O, a resolution, transfer of funds from Stormwater Utility to CHS Green Stormwater Infrastructure Retrofit Project, $70,000, first of one reading.
00:56:48
Item P, a resolution, self-contained breathing apparatus system, $463,035, first of one reading.
00:56:54
And item Q, an ordinance, sanitary sewer and slope easements abandonment, William Taylor Plaza Project, second of two readings.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
00:57:03
Busy consent agenda.
00:57:06
Any questions?
00:57:07
Anyone want to move anything off of that?
Bob Fenwick
Member, City Council
00:57:09
Well, let me, as a point of order, Mr. Mayor, Resolution P, the self-contained breathing apparatus system, just a comment.
00:57:17
The city of Charlottesville almost lost one of its general firefighters about a week and a half ago at a fire on Ware Street, W-A-R-E Street.
00:57:28
And there's a video out there that shows exactly what happened.
00:57:33
And this bears upon the upkeep of the equipment that the firefighters have and the importance that the equipment is new and there's a new standard.
00:57:44
New standards are coming along all the time.
00:57:47
So I just wanted to make that point that sometimes the consent, well often the consent agenda is sort of ordinary appropriations or resolutions.
00:57:55
This is a case where it made a huge difference.
00:58:00
And I urge people to try to go to Newsplex or Channel 19, Charlottesville, Google that, and pull that video up.
00:58:10
You will never forget that video.
00:58:13
Thank you.
00:58:14
Thank you.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
00:58:16
Any else?
00:58:16
Consent agenda?
00:58:18
OK.
00:58:18
I have a motion in favor.
Kathy Galvin
Member, City Council
00:58:20
So moved.
00:58:21
I'll second.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
00:58:22
Second.
00:58:23
Any discussion?
00:58:24
All in favor?
00:58:28
Okay, carries five to zero.
00:58:34
Moving on to the utility rates.
00:58:36
First item on our agenda, Sharon O'Hare presenting.
00:58:45
And we do have a public hearing after this.
00:58:46
If any, we have a couple people signed up.
00:58:48
If anybody else wants to speak, the sign-up sheet is right here.
SPEAKER_14
00:58:55
My name is Sharon O'Hare.
00:58:56
I'm Assistant Finance Director.
00:58:59
I'd like to present the utility rates for the city of Charlottesville for fiscal year 2017.
00:59:06
I'm going to be referring to the at-a-glance from the meeting that we had the other day, and I have copies of that if you need them or if anyone in the audience would like to take a look at them.
SPEAKER_13
00:59:16
I have plenty of copies of those.
SPEAKER_14
00:59:21
We expect that with the proposed rate for those people that have water, wastewater, and gas within the city will pay $111.36.
00:59:28
That is down $3.87 or 3.36%.
1. CONSENT AGENDA
SPEAKER_14
00:59:33
We anticipate that about 87% of our citizens in Charlottesville have gas.
00:59:47
Unfortunately, we don't know whether they have gas for heating or just having a gas appliance.
00:59:54
In terms of the water rates, we expect that the water rate for 1,000 cubic feet will be $54.51.
2. PUBLIC HEARING / ORDINANCE: Utility Rates (1st of 2 readings)
SPEAKER_14
01:00:04
We expect that the average single-family household uses 200, excuse me, 427 cubic feet of water, so we expect that they would
01:00:17
be paying $27.28, which is an increase of 3.49%.
01:00:23
In terms of the factors that influence the rates, the Rivanna rate, the wholesale rate that we purchase for water from Rivanna is causing a $6.02 increase in our water rate.
01:00:41
We expect an additional $1.37 from the rate stabilization.
01:00:47
Even though we anticipate that there was a reduction in the rate stabilization rate of 200,000, we still expect that $2.13 will be the reduction by having the 300,000 for the rate stabilization for our citizens.
01:01:08
We anticipate a $50,000 increase in debt service, which will result in a 34% increase in the rate
01:01:17
and the change in operating expenses and revenues, we expect a decrease.
01:01:27
This year, we took a particular look at those funds that have carryovers.
01:01:35
If we have line items that are spent on particular things like water conservation, vehicle replacement, if that money isn't spent in a given year,
01:01:45
It is carried forward for the next year.
01:01:47
That money is unrestricted but can only be spent on water conservation or vehicle replacement, for example.
01:01:55
And we took a particularly hard look at those and we were able to reduce the budget for operating and maintenance for some of those line items.
01:02:05
So in water we expect a reduction of the rate of $1.08 because of that.
01:02:13
and because of the number of the volume and the loss changes, we expect even though the volume went down, we normally would expect an increase in the rates because of that.
01:02:27
We were able to reduce the loss factor, which is the difference between what we have to pay Rivanna to purchase the water and what we can charge our customers.
01:02:38
That's what we consider the loss for the city of Charlottesville and so
01:02:42
because of that it would upset the volume changes and so we expect a reduction in the rate.
01:02:49
So the final rate will be $54.51 for water.
01:02:54
and again the single-family household which uses 427 cubic feet of water will spend $27.28.
Kristin Szakos
Member, City Council
01:03:02
Can I ask just a quick clarification question?
01:03:05
So when you talk about reducing loss, I assume that that's mostly in repairing leaks and improving meters so that we're losing less water into the environment.
01:03:18
Yes, exactly.
SPEAKER_14
01:03:23
In terms of the wastewater rate, we expect that the wastewater rate goes from $70.44 to $74.61.
01:03:32
The average monthly household, which uses 427 cubic feet of water, will increase from $34.08 to $35.86, an increase of about $1.78 or 5.22%.
01:03:50
There are several factors that influence the rate as well with wastewater.
01:03:56
The Rivanna rate again, Rivanna provides the treatment for all of our wastewater and its rate is going up to the city of Charlottesville, so we expect a $3.07 increase.
01:04:09
Rate stabilization, we were able to raise it from $300,000 last year to $400,000 this year, so that reduces the rate by 43 cents.
01:04:17
by having the $400,000 in rate stabilization, that is a total of $2.92 that we were able to reduce the rate to our customers.
01:04:30
Debt service did not change from last year, so there was no rate change because of that.
01:04:35
Again, we looked very closely at expenses and revenues for
01:04:42
the wastewater utility and we looked at those things that might have carry over funds, for example vehicle replacement, salaries and benefits, we looked at service contracts that were in place and we were able to reduce the expenses and so that produced an 18 cent reduction in the rate.
01:05:04
and then the volume changes.
01:05:07
Because the volume was expected to go down, we anticipate a $1.71 increase in the rate for the final rate to be $74.61.
01:05:15
In terms of the gas rate, the average single-family household uses 4,848 cubic feet of gas.
01:05:28
A rate is expected to change from
01:05:34
$80.15, excuse me, $80.47 to $70.15, but the single-family household that uses 4,878 cubic feet of gas is expected to change from $54.79 to $48.22, a reduction of 11.99%.
01:05:55
In terms of
01:06:04
The total operating budget decreased by $239,903 from 16 to 17, or 1.71%, resulting in a $1.37 decrease in the rate
01:06:28
The sales volume for firm customers decreased by 85,694 decatherms or pubic feet, producing a 92 cent increase in the rate.
01:06:47
But the supply costs, which have been declining because of market conditions, decreased by 12.12, 6 percent.
01:06:56
resulting in a $9.87 decrease, which reduced the rate to the $70.15 that we expect.
01:07:04
So again, the household that uses all three, water, wastewater, and gas, will see a reduction of $3.87 or 3.36%.
01:07:15
So I'd be happy to answer any questions you might have.
Bob Fenwick
Member, City Council
01:07:26
Do you have a single vendor for gas?
SPEAKER_14
01:07:32
Yes, British Petroleum.
Bob Fenwick
Member, City Council
01:07:33
British Petroleum.
01:07:35
Are there two main pipelines coming in the city or just one?
SPEAKER_14
01:07:38
Just one.
Bob Fenwick
Member, City Council
01:07:39
Just one, okay.
01:07:40
And when do you purchase it?
01:07:42
Is it a spot market or do you lock it in for a year?
SPEAKER_14
01:07:46
We don't lock in 100% of it, but we do lock in a portion of it.
Bob Fenwick
Member, City Council
01:07:51
Yeah, make sure you talk into the mic.
SPEAKER_14
01:07:52
Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
01:07:54
We do lock in a portion of
01:07:56
at the beginning of the year of the gas.
Bob Fenwick
Member, City Council
01:08:00
Okay, these are general questions that people just ask me so that's why I ask you to move closer to the mic.
01:08:06
And I notice on my bill and in your literature here you have cubic meter for water.
01:08:14
Cubic feet.
01:08:15
I'm sorry, cubic feet, yes.
01:08:17
How difficult, and you know we try to make these bills easy for people to read and understand, to do it in terms of gallons.
SPEAKER_14
01:08:24
In each bill it is marked in gallons as well.
Bob Fenwick
Member, City Council
01:08:27
It's also in gallons?
01:08:28
Yes.
01:08:28
And what is the seven gallons, seven and a half?
SPEAKER_14
01:08:32
7.48 gallons or cubic foot.
Bob Fenwick
Member, City Council
01:08:35
Okay, and the price of one gallon of fresh water is?
SPEAKER_14
01:08:39
About 75 cents.
01:08:41
About .75 cents.
01:08:43
Three quarters of one cent.
01:08:47
And wastewater is about one cent.
01:08:50
Per gallon.
01:08:51
Yes, per gallon.
01:08:52
Okay, thank you.
Bob Fenwick
Member, City Council
01:08:55
Any others?
Kristin Szakos
Member, City Council
01:08:58
Actually, I have one question just because of an article that was in the paper and just the question that comes up every year about the pilot, the payment in lieu of taxes.
01:09:08
Can I sort of say what I think it is and you can then correct me because I'm trying to I think it can get very complicated but it from what I understand it's that the city runs this like a business it's a it's its own separate piece yes and if it were a business if it were say British Petroleum operating it right they would pay taxes on their revenue yeah and since the city doesn't pay taxes we lose that revenue because we're a
01:09:34
publically owned utility and so we charge ourselves what we would charge a regular utility in taxes and we call it payment in lieu of taxes and that goes into the general fund just like any other taxes.
01:09:46
a fair summary of it?
01:09:47
That's true.
01:09:48
What am I missing?
SPEAKER_14
01:09:49
We do operate each fund, gas, water, and waste water, as an enterprise fund.
01:09:55
And so they are a business.
01:09:58
They operate just as a business does, but they're a not-for-profit business.
01:10:02
So every year when we set the rates, we want to make zero profit.
01:10:05
But because of weather conditions, rain, it's a very cold winter, we might use more or less water or gas
01:10:16
than we anticipate.
01:10:17
So in any one given year, we might make a profit or lose money, but we try to make that up in the following year.
01:10:23
Okay, great.
01:10:23
Thank you.
Kathy Galvin
Member, City Council
01:10:24
I do have a question.
SPEAKER_14
01:10:24
It's a question I often get.
Kathy Galvin
Member, City Council
01:10:26
And it's related to what Councilor Szakos is asking.
01:10:29
I just was looking over the budget, and I noticed that there is a line item for revenue and the operating revenue under the gas utility.
01:10:38
And then there's also a gas utility fund revenue, two separate categories in our budget.
01:10:46
because one is in operating revenue and then one is part of another fund generator.
01:10:54
So just this afternoon I was looking at the budget to see how a person, how a counselor, how a taxpayer, how a rate payer could go in and look and see what is the line item of the revenue from the gas utility unit and you do see it in two places.
01:11:13
One's the operating revenue and one is the revenue from a
SPEAKER_05
01:11:17
Good evening, Mr. Mayor, Members of Council.
01:11:20
My name is Chris Cullinan, Director of Finance.
01:11:22
You do see it twice in the budget document.
01:11:25
The source of the funds originates in the gas, water, wastewater fund.
01:11:30
That's where the revenue comes in through the bills.
01:11:34
And that's the pilot component of the gas rate, the wastewater rate.
01:11:40
It then gets transferred
01:11:42
over to the general fund.
01:11:43
So in the gas fund, for example, you see it twice.
01:11:45
One's coming as a revenue.
01:11:47
Secondly, going out as a transfer.
01:11:50
Then when you move over to the general fund, because again, it is separate, as Ms. O'Hare explained, you see it come in as a revenue under the line item payment in lieu of taxes.
01:11:58
I think it's payment in lieu of taxes, utilities, it's actually all three.
01:12:02
But obviously, each one makes up that total.
01:12:04
So you do see it multiple times, and that's the nature of governmental fund accounting.
01:12:09
because these are all separate and they are treated separately, you see them, the inflows and the outflows throughout the budget document.
Kathy Galvin
Member, City Council
01:12:16
Thank you, and I just wanted to point that out that that is in our budget, it's always been in our budget.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
01:12:23
I have a question that comes from a conversation I was having with Ms. Galvin, so I don't want to steal your thunder on this idea, but the question, would you all be, given the newspaper article and the
01:12:34
the possibility of lack of public knowledge about the basis of the PILOT, the payment and loan taxes, would it be possible to increase the transparency in the public education around this with including an annual, in a mailing a year including a narrative about it and putting something on our website about this explaining to the public what the
SPEAKER_14
01:12:56
We certainly could put it on the website explaining to the public.
01:13:01
And as an insert, we could either do it in part of the city notes that comes out quarterly.
01:13:07
We could either put an article in there or do a separate insert into the bills.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
01:13:13
Just in the vein of disclosure, when you get a cell phone bill, all those different fees, they should be explained to us.
Kathy Galvin
Member, City Council
01:13:18
And if I may, Mayor Signer, I do have a resolution about that.
01:13:21
If we wanted to go that far, that would help.
SPEAKER_14
01:13:24
Or we could even, on the back of each bill, have a pilot and payment and explain what it is.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
01:13:32
That would be possible.
SPEAKER_14
01:13:34
And that would be permanent.
01:13:36
It would be on every bill each time.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
01:13:38
And there would be, I guess the main point is there wouldn't be resistance from staff about any of these ideas.
Kathy Galvin
Member, City Council
01:13:43
I may offer that later.
Bob Fenwick
Member, City Council
01:13:48
And one last question.
01:13:50
How many, and this is going to be a general question, how many cutoffs did we have last year?
01:13:56
Ballpark?
SPEAKER_14
01:13:59
I can tell you exactly.
01:14:00
We had, last year, we had,
01:14:13
In 2015, we had 1,219 cut-offs of 285,658 invoices that were sent out.
01:14:24
That was about 43%.
01:14:26
And through April of this year, we're about 36%.
Bob Fenwick
Member, City Council
01:14:32
3.6%.
01:14:32
Yes, .4%.
01:14:37
And when I got my briefing on this, you mentioned some of them are probably people being cut off more than once.
01:14:43
Do you have any handle on that?
SPEAKER_14
01:14:45
I don't at this time, but we certainly, we could get that information for 2014.
01:14:52
We provided a map to City Council for 2014 and it would list
01:14:59
If there's just a dot, it was just one.
01:15:01
And then it would say if there was two or three or four or five cutoffs running around.
Bob Fenwick
Member, City Council
01:15:07
And as part of the briefing, you gave me a sort of scenario of how you handle cutoffs.
01:15:18
Could you do it quickly so people could understand that there is like an appeal process and there is help available?
SPEAKER_14
01:15:26
The invoice is sent out, we'll call that day one, of what you have used in the prior month in terms of water, wastewater or gas.
01:15:36
On the 31st date, a second invoice would be sent out and if you hadn't paid the first invoice, the amount that you owe from the first invoice will show up as delinquent as well as your current charges.
01:15:51
If you still haven't paid it 10 days after that second invoice is sent to you, you'll get a notice saying that you're delinquent.
01:16:01
And it will show up in red and say that you owe this amount on this date.
01:16:06
Your total bill is X, but you owe this amount now, which is Y, which will be something less than that.
01:16:16
When an individual is then going to be cut off, they will receive a
01:16:21
from an individual in the office if we have their phone number, leaving a message on their voicemail, trying to get a payment arrangement scheduled, trying to get the individual to pay.
01:16:38
Then if the person does not respond by returning the call or there is a negative response to the phone call, they will get a second call from an automated service.
01:16:51
When their amount is over $70 and they've been delinquent for several months, they will be cut off.
Bob Fenwick
Member, City Council
01:16:59
And who would be the touch person or if somebody out there listening tonight ran into a difficulty, say, during the winter?
01:17:07
What would be the, could they just call the mayor or the city manager?
SPEAKER_14
01:17:13
They could, but I would recommend that they call 970-3211.
01:17:17
And is that your department?
01:17:19
That is utility billing.
Bob Fenwick
Member, City Council
01:17:21
Utility billing, okay, thank you.
SPEAKER_05
01:17:24
And if I could add to that, sir.
01:17:27
We also have the assistance program for water, wastewater, and gas, and we also have an outreach aspect of that as well.
01:17:34
If we see customers who are struggling
01:17:37
We make them aware of it, ascertain whether they might be eligible for that.
01:17:41
So for folks who are having trouble paying, we also have the assistance programs when they call the same number, they can inquire about their eligibility for that as well.
Kristin Szakos
Member, City Council
01:17:51
And I understand, and I was looking to see if I brought it and I didn't, but there is a fund that the city sets aside for that assistance and that this year we didn't use it all so that apparently
01:18:03
of the requests we got for assistance, we were able to meet those within the funds that we had.
SPEAKER_14
01:18:07
Is that correct?
01:18:07
With the gas assistance, we did not cut the budgeted amount because we just never know what the winter is going to be.
01:18:16
But for the water assistance, we've been giving about $15,000 a year.
01:18:20
That is a carryover fund, and it is normally budgeted at $25,000.
01:18:25
So we've been budgeting it in 2017 at $15,000.
01:18:30
Realizing that they'll probably be about $10,000 to carry over.
Kristin Szakos
Member, City Council
01:18:33
But there is ample money in that fund to cover any requests.
01:18:36
Yes.
01:18:37
Okay, great.
SPEAKER_05
01:18:38
And also through the generosity of our customers, they're able to donate to that as well.
01:18:41
So we receive both the city contribution, but also donations from our customers.
Kristin Szakos
Member, City Council
01:18:46
Anyone who's listening who does that?
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
01:18:52
Okay.
01:18:52
Move on to the public hearing.
01:18:56
Rebecca Quinn.
SPEAKER_09
01:19:03
Rebecca Quinn, 1044 Street here in the city.
01:19:06
I was dismayed reading the progress article and especially dismayed to hear staff say, oh, it's a non-profit.
01:19:16
And yet I submit the pilot, especially on gas, is actually a profit.
01:19:21
Isn't there a principle of government, or at least good government, that income collected by fees and taxes should be used for purposes
01:19:29
that are germane to the fee or tax.
01:19:32
Everyone uses water and sewer, not everyone uses gas, so I'm going to talk about gas.
01:19:37
I think now we know the pilot, this payment in lieu of taxes on gas, violates that principle of government.
01:19:45
I know you can hide behind it being legal and maybe even try to say other communities do it.
01:19:50
That doesn't mean it's right, doesn't mean it's good government.
01:19:53
Here's why it's bad, why it's wrong, and why I believe it places a disproportionate burden
01:19:59
for general expenses of the city on our low-income residents.
01:20:05
I gather there are about 12,300 customers in the city that use gas, 7,000 in the county.
01:20:10
Some are commercial, some are residential.
01:20:12
I don't know how many buildings there are in the city, but let's make a simplifying assumption.
01:20:17
Let's assume there are 25,000 buildings and half of them use gas.
01:20:22
Why should half of those buildings pick up the tab for $3.7 million
01:20:29
in general funds, it goes to the general funds supposedly in service to the whole population.
01:20:35
Put it another way, why should owners of half the buildings get a free ride at the expense of those who use gas?
01:20:43
That is unfair no matter how you spin it.
01:20:46
And frankly, I thought a lot of what city representatives said in here was spin.
01:20:51
It was spin protecting a source of income that is not germane because it's not used for gas.
01:20:57
It's unfair and it's regressive.
01:20:59
It's almost the definition of regression, which is putting a greater burden relative to resources on the poor than on the rich.
01:21:08
$3.7 million a year, that's an average of $190 paid by each customer.
01:21:13
Those who use gas for heating and cooking pay more than those who use it just for cooking.
01:21:20
This creates a significant burden on our low-income residents.
01:21:24
Many of them live in older homes that are less energy efficient.
01:21:28
which means if they heat with gas, they're paying a lot.
01:21:31
The more they pay for their gas bill, the more pilot they are paying.
01:21:36
Oh, and remember, this tax, this fee, whatever you want to call it, is also taxed.
01:21:41
It's like double taxation.
01:21:43
A couple of years ago, you mentioned the cutoffs.
01:21:46
I thought it was higher than 1,200, but I'll bet having another $190 plus per year,
01:21:53
would make a difference for those people.
01:21:55
I find it ironic that we are taking 3.7 million in profit.
01:22:00
Oh, and then we come up with a little assistance program which costs money to administer.
01:22:05
Why don't we leave the money in the pockets of the policyholders and stop making a profit and calling it a pilot.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
01:22:14
Thank you.
01:22:19
Is there a motion in favor of this?
01:22:21
Any other comments?
Kathy Galvin
Member, City Council
01:22:24
Excuse me, Mayor Signer.
01:22:25
Is there any discussion?
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
01:22:26
Anyone else signed up?
01:22:29
Do we need to close the public hearing?
01:22:32
OK, closing public hearing.
Kathy Galvin
Member, City Council
01:22:34
Well, Mayor Signer, if I may, I would like to make a motion to adopt a resolution concerning the transparency issue that you brought up.
01:22:44
If I could just pass this.
01:22:46
Oh, excuse me.
Kristin Szakos
Member, City Council
01:22:48
And generally we don't, I think as you pointed out the last time I brought a motion, that we don't vote on a motion the night that we see it, so.
Kathy Galvin
Member, City Council
01:22:56
This is just to consider and actually have staff consider.
Kristin Szakos
Member, City Council
01:22:59
I would love to, I probably agree with it, I just would rather have another two weeks to discuss it.
Kathy Galvin
Member, City Council
01:23:05
Sure, if I may just read it so that we can have it out there and if this wants to move forward, it can get onto the next agenda.
01:23:15
The resolution on pilot fees for gas utility, whereas raising revenue to pay for maintenance and repairs to infrastructure through the utility prevents the utility from incurring debt, and whereas it is common practice for many communities to receive some payment in lieu of taxes to represent the corporate tax liability of the utility, and whereas the City Council of Charlottesville is committed to keeping all ratepayers informed of how
01:23:42
the public utility operates.
01:23:44
Be it resolved that the pilot fee as cents per dollar and its uses inclusive of any surpluses will henceforth be identified on customers' bills.
01:23:54
Be it further resolved that this information will also be posted in a prominent location on the city's public utilities website.
01:24:00
I offer that as something to entertain, provide to staff for further vetting, and maybe vote on it at the next meeting.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
01:24:10
One option would be to include this as an amendment to the motion we're going to pass tonight to approve the ordinance.
01:24:15
We could do that.
01:24:17
I'm fine with it being a resolution also.
Kristin Szakos
Member, City Council
01:24:24
I'd be more comfortable to bring it up with the next
Maurice Jones
City Manager
01:24:28
And we do have a second reading of this at the next meeting, so we could add that to the document.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
01:24:33
OK. You amenable to that?
Kathy Galvin
Member, City Council
01:24:35
I'm very happy with that.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
01:24:37
OK. Any other questions or comments on this?
Kristin Szakos
Member, City Council
01:24:40
I'd like to make a motion, then, that we adopt the utility rates as they appear in our agenda.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
01:24:47
Is there a second?
Kristin Szakos
Member, City Council
01:24:48
Second.
01:24:49
We don't need to do them all separately, right?
01:24:50
We can do them in one piece.
01:24:54
And so that's all we need tonight.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
01:24:57
OK. Move forward.
01:25:00
Thank you all.
01:25:02
Item number two, Tree Commission Annual Report, Paul Josie.
SPEAKER_03
01:25:12
Good evening Mr. Mayor, members of council, Mr. Jones, Mr. Brown.
REPORT: Tree Commission Annual Report
SPEAKER_03
01:25:16
My name is Paul Josie, I'm the chair for the Charlottesville Tree Commission and happy to be here to give you the report for 2015 and we had a number of things that we targeted.
01:25:27
We'll start off with just our review and commentary on different projects.
01:25:30
We weighed in on 250 and the Best Buy ramp where we worked with VDOT to
01:25:36
and actually there's a number of mature trees that they took out in that intersection being a main gateway into the city and how most people arrive into the city now.
01:25:42
We advocated for doubling that canopy that they had proposed and actually have VDOT agree with that and change their planting for that area.
01:25:51
We also looked at Seminole Square redesign and the Hillsdale Drive extension and streetscape.
01:25:56
We looked at the proposed plantings.
01:25:58
We also found that that was an area where we could probably double the opportunity for more street trees in that area, probably more canopy, more stormwater benefits to the city.
01:26:07
Also looked at the William Taylor Plaza plan and weighed in on that with commentary about being also a gateway along Fifth Street.
01:26:16
We looked at that and weighed in with comments.
01:26:19
We also reviewed the proposed skate park design which is located in the middle of an old grove of oak trees and a critical element was the protection of those tree roots in that area so we added comments that led to new tree protection practices and standards in the city within parks and recs specifically
01:26:39
Also looked at Tonslow Park renovations and used those same tree protection measures.
01:26:44
We also looked at the Shanks Branch utility corridor or the greenway.
01:26:49
We looked at the tree protection measures there and how we can minimize the impact on trees in that area.
01:26:54
Also Water Street extended where new trees are being planted.
01:26:57
We advocated for trees to go in there as well.
01:27:00
We weighed in on two BAR projects with High Street and on Grady about tree related issues that the BAR had questions about how we could weigh in on that from a tree standpoint.
01:27:12
And also we worked on the Streets that Work project.
01:27:15
So advocated for trees and soil volumes to be contemporary with the rest of cities within both the commonwealth and the mid-Atlantic.
01:27:25
So Tree Commission, and those are just areas that we reviewed out of comments.
01:27:30
That's myself, along with the rest of the Tree Commission.
01:27:33
Roxanne White is the vice chair, as well as Maynard Sipe was the prior chair, and then all the other Tree Commissioners.
01:27:40
Really a terrific group of advocates for trees.
01:27:44
From a Tree Commission initiated items, the projects that we worked on, we looked at a study of the nine city gateways and tried to find out which ones look the best when you first arrive into the city.
01:27:55
How does it look?
01:27:56
From a tree standpoint, we found opportunities for over 25 plantings, and we installed 15 of those.
01:28:01
We worked with the utilities in the ground and where those tree locations could be.
01:28:06
Looking at Fifth Street extended, Emmett, Barracks, and others.
01:28:11
And one of the studies at Monticello Avenue led to a larger study of connecting from Monticello, this is in the county, from city entry all the way down to the turn off to Monticello
01:28:22
and so that actually we're working with the Charlottesville area tree stewards to plant 70 new trees in that area and so we've gotten grant money from the Department of Forestry helping collaborate with them so we worked on the design and then from a fundraising standpoint work with the tree stewards to actually plant the trees and now we're actually working with a number of different groups including PVCC and Monticello and
01:28:48
and also the Journey to Hallowed Ground project.
01:28:52
So a number of different people who are really involved in planting this corridor, so changing the face of that gateway into Charlottesville.
01:29:00
We also initiated a maltree study that was done by noted
01:29:07
Tree expert, Jim Urban, who's worked on other Halpern design landscapes, landscape architect and arbor and tree enthusiast, as well as an arborist from the Casey Trees project in D.C. who came down, they reviewed the health of all the mall trees and provided a really good guideline for the future of those trees on the mall.
01:29:29
There's a number of very, it's kind of next steps actually to implement some of those measures
01:29:35
We also worked with staff to update the urban tree canopy report and that tree canopy report was done and we found that there was a change between 5 to 7.5% loss of the overall canopy within Charlottesville for the past 10 years.
01:29:54
That's between 350 and 500 acres of trees
01:29:57
have been removed in Charlottesville.
01:30:00
There's also been some plantings but that's overall the loss that has been determined.
01:30:05
There may be some acres, about 70 acres that were actually replanted but in general it's a significant amount of loss over 10 years but we're advocating for more trees to be planted and so that's the
01:30:19
Yeah, that's the Urban Tree Canopy Study.
01:30:22
And then we advocated for the restoration of Urban Forest Management Fund, the CIP.
01:30:27
We asked for $75,000 to help pay for some of these initiatives for the malt trees and also for emerald ash borer treatment and other issues in the city that we've realized is kind of a red flag for funding.
01:30:40
We also went to a presentation right here by the Burnley Moran fourth graders who presented all about the emerald ash borer
01:30:47
what that's doing the ash trees and now it's already in Harrisonburg and soon to come over the mountain and then we actually from that process we they one of their suggestions was to create a utility flyer to put into the mailers and all that in the dashboard to help people where to go how to identify it and how to identify ash trees which we created and put in the mailer and then and then
01:31:10
Let's see, then we also surveyed the city ash trees and located the prime ones to be treated this year, working with Parks and Rec for that.
01:31:18
So those are our big initiatives in 2015.
01:31:20
Going forward in the future, we'll continue with advocacy for trees through the code audit, also continuing with any future projects such as the Streets at Work project.
01:31:32
continued collaboration with the tree stewards, also Parks and Rec, Doug and John and Chris and really helpful group there and also from NDS and Department of Public Works has been incredibly helpful lately with a new project because we got contacted from local citizens saying they're concerned about how sidewalks are being repaired and tree birds are being cut, that they put a whole new
01:31:56
a process really for dealing with street trees and roots to really take care of our city's canopy.
01:32:02
So excellent work from the Department of Public Works in that plan that's underway with the local arborist.
01:32:07
And we also have a long-term goal for a public and private tree planting plan, which we hope to work with the tree stewards and really improve our canopy throughout the city in these areas that we have identified as kind of low canopy areas.
01:32:22
So lots of exciting things has happened in the past year and in the future.
01:32:29
Thank you all very much.
01:32:30
If you have any comments, you can contact us.
Bob Fenwick
Member, City Council
01:32:34
A couple quick questions.
01:32:35
Thank you so much for all your work.
01:32:37
You mentioned a tree study.
01:32:41
Was that a city study?
SPEAKER_03
01:32:43
The mall study or the urban tree canopy?
Bob Fenwick
Member, City Council
01:32:45
I talked about the urban tree canopy.
SPEAKER_03
01:32:47
That was a city study.
01:32:49
That's a study that's done every 10 years.
01:32:50
It's required by the city.
01:32:52
Is it on the website?
Bob Fenwick
Member, City Council
01:32:53
It is on the website, yes.
01:32:58
Tree Commission holds regular meetings open to the public when and where?
SPEAKER_03
01:33:02
It's on the first Tuesdays of every month from five till seven.
01:33:06
It's in Parks and Rec's conference room below city space.
Bob Fenwick
Member, City Council
01:33:11
A strange kind of question here.
01:33:13
American chestnut tree we're trying to bring back.
01:33:15
So we, I guess, started, whatever they call it, putting the Chinese tree, or Japanese tree, Chinese chestnut, and then we're pulling the Chinese chestnut DNA out or something like that.
01:33:29
Correct.
01:33:30
When does it become a non-native tree?
01:33:32
Well, so that's actually a much more complicated question.
SPEAKER_03
01:33:37
What they're trying to do is they take the American chestnut, the ones that have been somewhat fire resistant to the chestnut blight and they have a little bit of that DNA and it's a fraction of a percent in there and then they actually take the nuts from one generation of tree
01:33:52
grow another tree, see if there's any, you know, if it's still susceptible to the blight or not.
01:33:57
So actually that tree won't be available for another probably two decades, I'm guessing, to the general public.
01:34:02
So they're still working through that.
01:34:04
I don't think we'll see that for a while.
Bob Fenwick
Member, City Council
01:34:06
Last question.
01:34:07
There was a situation with Dominion Power where they were demanding a certain easement width.
01:34:14
Where does that stand now?
01:34:15
Are they loosening up on that at all?
SPEAKER_03
01:34:18
It's highly doubtful, but from a utility standpoint, we've actually gotten to a minimum of five feet from underground utilities.
01:34:26
We're installing root barriers in those areas, so that's a benefit, but from an above ground
01:34:32
I don't think there's any, we haven't done any work on that and I'm not sure if there's any.
SPEAKER_19
01:34:40
Their easement rights are prescribed by Commonwealth law and we really, on aerial lines and we really can't impact those at all.
01:34:48
We have had very good, oh Doug Eamon, Parks Division Manager, thank you Mayor.
01:34:54
We have had very good success working with the Dominion Regional Forester in
01:35:01
how they maintain trees in the city.
01:35:04
However, both our urban forester and that regional forester we're working with have retired, so we need to get a new person in place, then hopefully they'll have a new individual in place to mean well and we'll begin to develop that relationship again, hopefully sustain it.
SPEAKER_03
01:35:22
All right, thank you.
01:35:23
Great report.
01:35:25
And we're also advocating for certain types of trees that can be planted underneath power lines that work well with cleaning as well.
Kathy Galvin
Member, City Council
01:35:35
Mayor Signer, I have one question.
01:35:37
And first off, thank you so much for all your work.
01:35:39
The tree commission is invaluable.
01:35:41
It really is.
01:35:42
And you work tirelessly.
01:35:44
It's commendable.
01:35:46
So just what do you see in the horizon, the most pressing issue?
01:35:51
facing the city with regards to tree canopy, street trees, your whole bailiwick.
SPEAKER_03
01:35:58
The most pressing would be just how can we actually plant more trees?
01:36:03
It seems to be that there are certain cities that, Fredericksburg, they plant 600 trees a year.
01:36:08
And we're sort of at the 100 to 200 trees a year area.
01:36:13
And how can we plant more?
01:36:14
And there's a big cost associated with planting new trees from a maintenance standpoint.
01:36:18
First and second and you know up to third year where you're watering those trees applying mulch to kind of keep weed suppression down So that's a just the cost of the maintenance for new trees is a big deal.
01:36:30
I think the the Charlottesville Mall is a considerable You know it's a beloved space that everyone loves and goes to and taking care of those trees should be paramount to paramount to the mall success and so there are a few suggestions that are
01:36:46
would really help see them all live another 60 years in a similar condition or start showing more signs of decline.
01:36:54
There already are signs of decline.
01:36:56
So how do you remedy that now?
01:36:58
So those are the two areas.
Kathy Galvin
Member, City Council
01:37:00
May I ask you a follow-up on that?
01:37:02
Then if that is embedded in your report, we need to turn that into a policy of some kind, or staff does.
SPEAKER_03
01:37:12
Yeah, a policy, but also who's going to pay for that.
01:37:14
I mean, because currently there's not the funding to maintain the mall, as far as I know, within a parks and rec budget, except where there's the general taking of the trees, but not specifically the mall trees.
01:37:26
And those are a little bit, you know, there's a few more higher dollar cost items on that than typical tree maintenance.
SPEAKER_04
01:37:35
OK.
01:37:35
Thank you.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
01:37:38
I would agree.
01:37:40
I want to thank you all for the incredible work you do and whenever you drive around you see new trees have been planted in certain areas.
01:37:47
You can imagine where they're going to be in 20 years and the difference that it will make on that particular plot of land and we see that with the mature trees.
01:37:55
It is part of the canopy that we have.
01:37:57
I would agree.
01:37:58
I think that figuring out a mechanism to translate the report into policy guidance, recommendations is really quite essential because there are
01:38:07
These are policy questions.
01:38:08
There are costs associated with it.
01:38:12
What is the best way to do that, to translate these into asks for...
SPEAKER_03
01:38:19
Well, so there's a list of priorities in the report that say, you know, this is a thinning of the canopy, applying, you know, root, you know, tree regulators, possibly some trees to, you know, have them reestablish stronger growth.
01:38:32
So, that report kind of outlines a number of things.
01:38:35
Even some of them are removing the grates that were installed, because when they cut the grates, they have to burn the grate, and that actually burns into the cambium of the trunk, essentially, where that's the main life support of the tree.
01:38:45
There's some strategies that are just removing the grates that are a little bit more expensive than say pruning out some certain limbs.
01:38:53
So the only ones that are from a policy standpoint that would affect the overall dose.
Kristin Szakos
Member, City Council
01:38:59
I would just like to offer a little bit of levity.
01:39:02
I have an eight-year-old friend
01:39:05
who said that she could tell that Charlottesville liked its baby trees because they all wear diapers.
01:39:10
Green gators that do the water for them.
01:39:12
But it is a sign that we love our trees, that we take care of them.
SPEAKER_03
01:39:15
Well, thanks to Parks and Agriculture for taking care of them.
01:39:18
Thank you all.
01:39:19
Thank you.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
01:39:20
All right.
5. REPORT: Integrated Pest Management Annual Report
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
01:39:21
Next item, Integrated Pest Management Annual Report.
01:39:25
Brian Daley.
SPEAKER_17
01:39:32
Good evening, Mr. Mayor and members of city council.
01:39:35
Brian Daly, Parks and Recreation Director.
01:39:37
Tonight, Parks and Recreation staff are proud to provide you with the highlights of the first annual report on the city's Integrated Pest Management Program, a report that is the result of the Integrated Pest Management Policy that was adopted by city council in 2015.
01:39:51
Here tonight to present the findings of the report is John Mann.
01:39:54
John is our city's landscape manager, IPM coordinator, and does an outstanding job in management of all the city landscapes.
01:40:02
I'm gonna turn it over to John.
SPEAKER_07
01:40:07
Thank you, Mr. Mayor, council members.
01:40:10
Revisiting, this is our first annual report of the Integrated Pest Management Program, which a year ago, council unanimously put into policy form.
01:40:19
And I think that was good comments about tree issues and how do we create policy to move things forward.
01:40:25
And this was the first step, I think, in making that move in saying that we want to be accountable for what we do.
01:40:32
We want to keep records that will show that we're being accountable.
01:40:35
And I think that the first report that we officially are presenting actually shows that we have reached those objectives.
01:40:42
But of course, there's many more roads to go beyond that.
01:40:46
I'd like to just start by saying I'd like to revisit the objectives of the IPM policy that was adopted by council.
01:40:55
And the first is elimination of significant threats caused by pests to the health and safety of staff and the public.
01:41:02
prevention of loss or damage to city-owned assets or property by pests, protection of environmental quality, and a progressive move over time to reduce chemical pest controls.
01:41:16
Just to format so people in the general public would understand, when we say pesticides, it is not just for insects.
01:41:24
Pesticides are any pests that creates an issue that needs to be controlled in some form.
01:41:30
Insecticides affect insects, fungicides for disease vectors, and herbicides for weeds or plant growth control.
01:41:41
The majority of our report is focused on herbicides because we basically use little or no insecticides or fungicides, wise plant selection throughout the years, changing of plans and development practices, as well as changing up maintenance
01:41:58
The biggest threat is herbicide issues and using those on public properties.
01:42:12
A few things I'd just like to point out is this report is based exclusively on the pesticide records that are required by our staff to maintain for VDACs, our state or federal regulations.
01:42:26
And we have an enhanced version that actually fits an IPM model in that it can track time, location,
01:42:33
product, concentration, also follow up so that you know where you're headed with it.
01:42:39
So the bottom line is pesticide applications, if they are necessary, are well thought out, well timed, well carried out and documented.
01:42:48
So I think that that's the whole goal overall of integrated pest management.
01:42:52
I'd like to just mention some things hopefully that maybe you noticed in the report that was circulated last month to you.
01:42:59
If we took the total hours that our landscape staff
01:43:03
devote to integrated pest management, it would be 100%, but out of that, only 4% is actual pesticide use.
01:43:13
So all the rest is the pruning, the mulching, the cultural things that are done.
01:43:19
So our staff is very good at getting out there and dealing with the issues and using pesticides only where it's necessary.
01:43:28
Our horticultural staff is the one I think that's probably noticed the most around town and just wanted to mention
01:43:33
Some of the extensive areas that we take care of.
01:43:35
We have 14 acres of landscaped beds, 110 containers on the mall here, and over 148,000 linear feet of sidewalks.
01:43:45
As well as what Paul mentioned, we have over 900 actively planted baby trees we're taking care of in your diapers.
01:43:53
So it's a lot of work for us.
01:43:55
The issue that I'd like to talk about a bit is the right of way.
01:44:00
And this is singly our most important issue is the weed control and the right of way.
01:44:07
All our entry corridors are maintained by Parks and Recreation staff.
01:44:12
They are also weed sinks or weeds that blow down and seed into areas.
01:44:17
So the control of the weeds in those areas is extremely important.
01:44:22
The majority of that weed control is done in hardscape.
01:44:26
Sidewalks will deteriorate, bridges, other areas, pavers, will deteriorate over time with weed control, with weeds.
01:44:34
So those have to be kept and maintained to protect the infrastructure.
01:44:39
So the majority of what we do is on hardscapes.
01:44:45
The other area I'd like to mention, I talked about herbicide use and from our report we showed if we broke down use of those herbicides into different areas of the city or different areas of use in the city, only 4% is used at school sites, 5% at public buildings, 21% in parks, which a lot of that is attributed to our parks are overrun with invasive plant material.
01:45:14
So we used herbicide controls on some of those invasive plants.
01:45:19
The hort sector is 27% and this is all of your landscaped areas all throughout the city and in the right of way.
01:45:27
And the largest single area is 43% is the right of way.
01:45:32
So this is all your roadways, sidewalks and entryways.
01:45:37
I'd like to just mention that unbeknownst to many people, we do not use any chemical fertilizers or pesticides on grass and turf in our parks and school grounds.
01:45:48
So it is very safe to have a picnic, bring your dog, whatever.
01:45:51
We have done this for many years.
01:45:54
We have green grass, maybe not true grass, but at least it's green and it's safe.
01:46:02
I'd like to mention a little bit dovetail off of what was said.
01:46:05
from Paul Josie and the Tree Commission is that one of the issues, of course, is our urban forest canopy.
01:46:11
The importance of an IPM program is to properly address the threats that would wipe out your age-old trees.
01:46:19
The emerald ash borer is the single most important threat now.
01:46:23
As was mentioned, we have 36 specimens, large right-of-way trees of ash trees, and out of those, half of those will be treated this month.
01:46:33
to protect them for two years from the emerald ash borer.
01:46:36
Hopefully over time a natural predator will be found so that could be eliminated eventually.
01:46:42
But we find it's very important to protect those aged trees in the right of way, many of them of such size that their canopy is irreplaceable.
01:46:52
We also do some treatment every three to five years for Dutch elm disease that has protected the few remaining elms we have, many of them on High Street.
01:47:02
Clark School, other areas like that receive treatment and has kept them thriving for many years.
01:47:09
Our integrated pest management program in natural areas I mentioned is extremely important because of the invasive vines primarily.
01:47:17
These are the single biggest threat to our forest resources in the city as they grow up and choke out and strangle trees.
01:47:25
We've had some success this year using funds to use goats.
01:47:30
The goats actually worked at Penn Park and
01:47:32
Chewed down a lot of the plant material so it could get in there with volunteers this fall to cut down vines and treat the stump of the vine to kill that vine so that it will not grow back.
01:47:44
These areas then over time will be reforested with native plant material and we're working on doing two sites of that.
01:47:51
We also put in a pollinator garden up where the butterfly sculpture is on the Warner Parkway to try to educate the public more about the importance of pesticides and their relation to pollinators.
01:48:03
So we're trying to also get out some education also.
01:48:09
The rest of the report talks pretty nearly about the actual products that are used, where they're used, and also the section in the back in the appendix speaks quite clearly about the fact that what is the toxicity level of the different products we use, because IPM stresses the fact that you use the least harmful product to get the job done.
01:48:32
So in this case, the products we use are all considered caution, which is slightly toxic to not toxic.
01:48:41
So this is exactly the same products that are available to any homeowner at any store where they can buy garden products.
01:48:50
The last section talks about looking forward and what opportunities lay ahead for us.
01:48:56
One thing we would like to see is to move more toward organics, primarily at school sites.
01:49:03
I did mention it's only 4% of our use of products is at schools, so I think that that's a doable thing if we have the support of council.
01:49:12
We have increased mulching and we're going to continue that
01:49:16
We also are moving away from Roundup and different products that we have found have adjuvants added to it, which actually make them more effective, but also are suspect for carcinogenic materials.
01:49:30
So we constantly look at products and make sure that they are suitable and the safest.
01:49:36
Thank you.
01:49:36
Are there any questions?
Kristin Szakos
Member, City Council
01:49:39
Two.
01:49:41
One is in our budget this year, we talked about less
01:49:45
Planting of annual plants like flowers, flowering plants and medians in places and more perennials.
01:49:53
Does that have an impact on what you do with pesticides?
SPEAKER_07
01:49:58
Yes and no.
01:49:59
It's just a different method.
01:50:01
I think personally the annuals over time require
01:50:07
less pesticide input because the problem with perennials is once weeds get into it then there's only certain targeted products that you can use like a bed of liriope say when grassy weeds get in there they're impossible to dig out properly so you have to use targeted herbicide products that will target that plant species so it's a trade-off good question and it's something we'll learn over time as some of the beds are converted to perennials.
Kristin Szakos
Member, City Council
01:50:34
My other question was about it looks like
01:50:38
I'm not sure you said this or not, but most of the glyphosate uses on sidewalks and right-of-ways, is that correct?
SPEAKER_07
01:50:45
That's correct.
Kristin Szakos
Member, City Council
01:50:46
So have you been using those burner things as well as chemical?
SPEAKER_07
01:50:51
Yes, the weed dragon.
01:50:52
We did purchase two weed dragons and have been training and working with staff on them.
01:50:56
I'm very honest with you, they are extremely dangerous.
Kristin Szakos
Member, City Council
01:50:59
I wondered about that.
01:51:00
Just for anybody listening, they basically
01:51:02
overheat and burn the area.
SPEAKER_07
01:51:05
And there's two issues we found are very crucial to understand.
01:51:08
One, one of them we got to use on the downtown mall.
01:51:11
The safety of pedestrians around it actually is like a torch.
01:51:15
The other thing is if the bricks are not completely dry, they crack from the heat.
01:51:20
So these are issues that we'll try to work through.
01:51:24
The other thing is the it can only be used at curb lines or places where there's not debris because it catches fire.
01:51:32
When you do the targeted herbicides, do you stick a little sign in the ground or something and say, we've done this today.
Bob Fenwick
Member, City Council
01:52:01
come near it for a day or anything like that.
01:52:03
Seems I have a memory of little signs in some kind of garden or something.
SPEAKER_07
01:52:07
Yes, yes we do, and that's in the policy.
01:52:10
The policy was completely adopted this past year.
01:52:13
So any areas that are sprayed, if it's adjacent in particular to where pedestrians would come through, it's at the entrance to the sidewalk in that area.
01:52:22
from either location telling people.
01:52:24
If it's a larger area or a specific plant that was targeted, we put a yellow flag in it.
01:52:31
But we do have signage.
01:52:33
The signage actually has prompted many phone calls, but I can honestly tell you when we get those phone calls and discuss it with them,
01:52:40
The majority of people are actually very happy to hear that we're organized, we're well trained, and we're very prudent in our use of the products.
01:52:50
So a negative can become a positive as long as people understand it's not indiscriminate use.
Bob Fenwick
Member, City Council
01:52:55
Okay, so one more for anybody watching.
01:52:57
Could you describe the size of the sign, the wording on the sign, the color?
SPEAKER_07
01:53:03
If anyone wanted to see it, it is on the city website under Parks and Recreation, Land Management, and there is a photograph there and it talks about spraying.
01:53:13
The policy, the report also will be also added to the website.
01:53:18
So yeah, it's approximately a sign, it's the same sign used in any state, it's a regulatory type sign.
01:53:23
Maybe just a bit smaller.
01:53:24
Approximately five by seven, and it says caution or warning, and it says pesticide application, it has my phone number on it.
Kristin Szakos
Member, City Council
01:53:33
And it's on page 11 in the report.
SPEAKER_07
01:53:35
Yes, it is.
01:53:36
That's right.
01:53:37
It's in the report.
01:53:39
The other thing we are going to add this year, I think, is in the past, whether it's organic products we're using or synthetic, we've used the same signage.
01:53:47
So it was brought to my attention the gardeners said they really would like to see signs that say organic so that people get a better understanding when we're using those products.
Kathy Galvin
Member, City Council
01:53:57
Yes, I have one question.
01:53:59
Do you have any idea what it would cost for us to move towards the organics only on school grounds?
01:54:06
And would it be a problem if you don't have that, you know, ballpark if just pulling that number?
01:54:11
I know you provided that information at one point.
SPEAKER_07
01:54:13
I thought you did.
01:54:14
We did.
01:54:14
We had information actually outlining that.
01:54:17
It would be a matter of looking at those figures again and toning it down to just school sites because that was at that time talking about citywide.
01:54:25
It is a sizable investment because using organics, the mode of action of how they kill is totally different.
01:54:33
Instead of one application of glyphosate that would kill it to the roots, organic products kill the top, so you need to apply four, five, sometimes six times to kill the growth so you starve the plant to death.
01:54:48
So it requires a lot of staff time.
01:54:50
That's I think the single biggest thing.
01:54:52
There is a five-fold increase in cost over synthetic to go to organic.
01:54:58
But again, if we target much more closely where these products would be used, I think it's a doable and be a wise increase.
Kathy Galvin
Member, City Council
01:55:06
Would other councils be interested in at least finding out that dollar amount for schoolyard sites?
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
01:55:12
I would.
Kathy Galvin
Member, City Council
01:55:13
That would be wonderful.
01:55:14
Thank you.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
01:55:16
So how do we formally, is that enough?
01:55:19
Is that enough for you to know?
01:55:20
Do we need a voter directive of some sort?
01:55:24
Mr. Daly, is that OK?
SPEAKER_07
01:55:26
It works for us.
01:55:28
We'll develop something, and Brian will take it to Maurice.
01:55:34
Thank you very much.
OTHER BUSINESS
SPEAKER_07
01:55:37
Any other?
01:55:38
All set?
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
01:55:41
OK. We are not even at our break.
01:55:50
Any other business by Councillors?
Wes Bellamy
Vice Mayor, City Council
01:55:54
I know it's been discussed somewhat but
01:56:01
I'd just like for public record and for public knowledge that there has been a request for a joint session between council as well as the CRHA Housing Authority and Mr. Jones and city staff is looking into that.
01:56:16
Mr. Jones, correct?
Maurice Jones
City Manager
01:56:18
That's correct.
01:56:19
We are working to schedule a meeting, a joint meeting with the CRHA board and the city council for some time probably in late June, early July.
Wes Bellamy
Vice Mayor, City Council
01:56:28
Okay.
01:56:29
So just for the public knowledge, that is indeed a priority.
01:56:32
We are diligently looking into all possible avenues.
01:56:37
It is something that we are looking forward to moving forward on.
Kathy Galvin
Member, City Council
01:56:42
And if I may just follow up on that, I think it's on
01:56:46
All of us understand that the maintenance issues have become critically important in crisis, actually oriented in many of the units, and that there are also serious management concerns related to that.
01:56:59
When the units fail and residents have to be moved out, and they're moved out into vacant units that were also in line,
01:57:06
For residents who needed a different sized apartment, then it causes havoc on the whole kind of morale of the resident population, as well as just simply the accounting of taking care of the unit logs.
01:57:22
So I think it is a major priority to have a pretty in-depth discussion on the maintenance and the management issues
01:57:30
at this first work session.
01:57:33
I just wanted to underline Councilor Bellamy, but I think there's an urgency in those two areas.
01:57:39
At least that's what I've heard from the residents.
Maurice Jones
City Manager
01:57:41
I think it's a great point, Councilor.
01:57:43
And as you know, over the course of the last three weeks or so, the city has been working closely with CRHA to try to address some of the maintenance issues that we've identified and that our contractors who were hired have identified.
01:57:57
And I've asked our facilities,
01:58:00
maintenance group and management group to develop a report on what they've seen over the course of the last few weeks and have that report ready for the joint work session.
01:58:14
Our contractors have entered into about 135 units.
01:58:19
and to try to address some of the issues and significant issues that they found and we had a list of issues that were brought to us and the contractors at the beginning and we found more as we went along the way.
01:58:32
And so we've asked them to develop a report that they will bring to the work session.
01:58:37
We'll have a chance to address that and obviously present that in advance of the work session for council to consider, CRHA to consider and their new executive director who begins work next Monday.
Kathy Galvin
Member, City Council
01:58:49
I do have a question for Councilor Bellamy.
Maurice Jones
City Manager
01:58:51
Yes, ma'am.
Kathy Galvin
Member, City Council
01:58:52
Would it all be possible for Council to be able to get a handle on the, or have a copy of the Alexandria Redevelopment Housing Authority Improvement Plan?
Wes Bellamy
Vice Mayor, City Council
01:59:02
Yes, I think that's something that is indeed needed, so I'll be reaching out to the Chairwoman of the CRHA Board, Ms. Julie Jones, requesting that copy tomorrow morning.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
01:59:15
Also, it might be a good opportunity to create an opportunity for any counselors who haven't gone and seen these most recently.
01:59:22
I mean, we've all been on site, but I would certainly be interested in that.
01:59:27
Maybe we could, the board could arrange an opportunity to spend some time seeing Mr. Jones or whatever's the best.
01:59:34
It would go two by two.
SPEAKER_04
01:59:35
I would certainly go over and see.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
01:59:36
I'm sure that I'll, yeah.
01:59:39
Okay, thank you all.
01:59:41
So, any other items, other business?
Kathy Galvin
Member, City Council
01:59:44
I just have one thing I'd like to flag for future discussion.
OTHER BUSINESS
Kathy Galvin
Member, City Council
01:59:49
And I met with Mr. Paul Reynolds and Alex Ikafuna in our new senior engineer for transportation.
01:59:57
I'm afraid I can't remember his name.
01:59:59
He most recently hails from, I think it was Milwaukee, I'm not sure.
02:00:05
But we had a very interesting discussion about how can we control speeds.
02:00:11
and our city streets.
02:00:13
And it was brought up by the young woman tonight about whether cameras, speed cameras would be possible.
02:00:18
Mr. Fooner did a good overview of where red light cameras are used in Virginia.
02:00:23
Not very clear at all whether they're used anywhere.
02:00:26
Any speed control cameras are used in Virginia.
02:00:30
But I would like us to move forward with some research.
02:00:34
on the likelihood, the feasibility of getting speed control cameras, understanding their effectiveness.
02:00:43
And also, the other issue that came up, which was a bit concerning, was the fact that there, or the possibility that our law enforcement isn't compelled to
02:00:59
kind of pull over people who break the speed limit if they go over within what VDOT calls the 85th percentile.
02:01:08
So it's not just a matter of going over the speed limit.
02:01:11
If they go 10 miles over the speed limit, they may not be tracked and ticketed because they're within this range of error.
02:01:21
and it's also of a concern whether or not even our local judges are even issuing citations or the police are issuing citations and then people are getting fined.
02:01:33
So there's an enforcement question of even people that are breaking the speed limit as it is and then there's also the idea of using the speed cameras to really monitor the behaviors of certain drivers on a regular basis, thereby extending enforcement.
02:01:51
If that's at all of an interest to council, I would like to get that on a future agenda where we talk about how can we really rigorously enforce our speed limits and also how can we extend the effectiveness of law enforcement using technology.
Kristin Szakos
Member, City Council
02:02:07
And our city engineer's name is Rashad Hanbali.
Kathy Galvin
Member, City Council
02:02:10
Thank you for reminding me.
Kristin Szakos
Member, City Council
02:02:16
I'm always torn.
02:02:17
I think one of the things I really like about Complete Streets and the kind of engineering speeds is that cities that really focus a lot more on enforcement than on prevention end up in situations like Ferguson, Missouri, where they're just fining so many people.
02:02:38
And a lot of people who are being fined are the people who live in the neighborhoods.
02:02:41
And that can become a burden.
02:02:44
There is a balance.
02:02:45
I'm certainly interested in looking at more enforcement in selected areas, but I don't want us to become a hyper-enforcing... Sure, if I may follow up on that.
Kathy Galvin
Member, City Council
02:02:53
The discussion we had was more that we need a whole quiver of arrows.
02:02:59
We are working diligently on the redesign of our streets.
02:03:02
We're becoming increasingly oriented towards multi-modal streets.
02:03:07
At the same time, these infractions running red lights, breaking the speed limit, endangering people.
02:03:14
There was another recent pedestrian was hit recently on a local street.
02:03:21
So I think it's a combination.
02:03:22
And if we're interested at least in researching this and seeing what are the options, I think we really have to take it seriously.
Bob Fenwick
Member, City Council
02:03:33
So would the staff bring to us targeted areas, maybe one at a time, like enforcement wants prevention another time?
02:03:51
I mean, how would this work?
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
02:03:53
I would have misgivings about red light ticket delivering systems here.
02:04:09
I've seen that in operation and other localities in Virginia and I do think that it
02:04:15
it creates an entirely new back and forth that can go for years where the backlash that comes when people are given, you know, it's basically robots sending out tickets and there's good arguments for it in public safety, there's good arguments against it and I would have grave misgivings about ushering it in as a public policy and Charlottesville, although I can
02:04:39
certainly be convinced or hear their arguments, but as an initial matter I would have a lot of reluctance even being advised on it.
02:04:46
I'd rather get advised on other things, you know, like I think that those, the electronic, the trucks that show you are speeding and can use behavioral science to slow people down and that there's a lot of good, but I think that when you start getting tickets because a machine delivered it to you without the
02:05:06
a human being being involved, it's a very significant move and a lot of jurisdictions have rolled back when they did it and it's led to a lot of whip sawing back and forth and a very messy public policy.
02:05:18
That's at least what I've seen in other, but so that's my initial, just having been, I heard it for the first time here, so that would be my initial response to it.
02:05:29
But we can certainly do that.
Kathy Galvin
Member, City Council
02:05:31
If I may follow up on that, I think what we're seeing is this,
02:05:36
Push and pull between the desire for mobility and the desire to avoid congestion.
02:05:45
OK, so we're in a city that has made a major commitment to bike and pedestrian infrastructure.
02:05:55
And it's proven we've got some of the highest percentages of people walking and biking than any city in the country, not just Virginia.
02:06:04
So there is a real public safety issue involved.
02:06:07
So I think at this point, we're
02:06:11
We are at a point where we need some advice from staff on how to solve these problems.
02:06:19
And it isn't just a matter of taking in complaints.
02:06:23
It's a matter of processing those issues, coming up with what is really going on, and giving us a menu of options for a solution.
Kristin Szakos
Member, City Council
02:06:32
Maybe what would be helpful, since I'm not sure we're ready to move to a policy recommendation tonight, is to ask staff to say, what are the policies?
02:06:42
and so that we can identify kind of where we are because I know we do do speed traps and we do do you know targeted enforcement around the city so it'd be maybe like if you talked about that 80% thing is that a policy or is that just something that somebody said might be a policy?
02:06:57
Exactly.
02:06:57
And to look at what our policies actually are and then maybe to get staff's recommendations for if we were to ramp it up a little bit what what would that look like and where would they recommend that?
Kathy Galvin
Member, City Council
02:07:09
I think that would be wonderful because if it's a matter of tightening up the existing enforcement tools that we have
02:07:18
really ticket people more randomly, more often.
Kristin Szakos
Member, City Council
02:07:22
Or like with the sidewalk fund, when we went from a complaint-based model to an actual model that looked at metrics.
02:07:31
Is that something that we'd want to look at?
Kathy Galvin
Member, City Council
02:07:32
Exactly.
02:07:33
And it was well understood that the streets that work is getting us more towards a real kind of concerted, studied effort, not just the squeaky wheel gets the grease for additional traffic calming.
02:07:44
that's based on crash data, it's based on pedestrian injuries and so on and so forth.
02:07:50
So I think, again, we're moving in this direction, but there is an immediate serious problem that I'm getting a little bit anxious here that we're not enforcing things correctly or as intensely
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
02:08:08
Well, we also have a new police chief on, so maybe we could put... We could ask him to take a look at that.
02:08:14
We could include a report on options or... Where are we?
02:08:19
Where could we be?
02:08:20
We actually brought this up at an interview.
Maurice Jones
City Manager
02:08:23
I think you'd certainly want to get the new chief on board with this and give him some time to review it and give staff the opportunity to review it.
02:08:31
I think it would be helpful to get an understanding at some point of, you know, how deeply you would like for staff to go on this, on any one of these options.
02:08:42
Oh, we're not there yet.
02:08:43
Yeah, exactly, because I don't think, I think we want to be careful about spending a lot of time, for instance, on speed cameras if the council largely isn't interested in that, but we could certainly put that out there as there are several
02:08:53
because we can do the first layer of research.
02:08:55
There are several cities in the southeast or wherever.
Kristin Szakos
Member, City Council
02:08:59
I'm not a fan of speed cameras either.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
02:09:01
We also have the Batten fellows this summer for research.
Kathy Galvin
Member, City Council
02:09:04
I think there is a very specific ask that we could make of the new police chief, and it's simply to meet with Mr. Funa to get a download of the discussion that we had with the new engineer about this question, are law enforcement offices
02:09:19
following the speed limit or the 85th percentile.
02:09:23
There's a big margin there.
02:09:25
And if that's a policy issue for us that we could resolve by saying, no, you enforce to the speed limit, not 10 miles per hour above it.
02:09:33
then that does percolate down to more tickets, more enforcement.
02:09:37
And that question is just what is the policy in the local police and in our local courts?
02:09:42
Are they going through the VDOT policy of 85th percentile or are they really enforcing the speed limit as posted?
02:09:51
And that to me is one specific question that would be great if we could get the police chief to answer in conversation with Mr. Rifuna.
Maurice Jones
City Manager
02:10:00
I mean we certainly can provide that information.
02:10:05
I guess, let me think a little bit about the best way to get that information back to city council.
02:10:11
And do we want to take a look at several different options to consider for moving forward, or do we just want to concentrate on one or two?
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
02:10:19
But we can certainly provide that information.
02:10:22
Mr. Jones and I will meet tomorrow about the agenda, and we can talk specifically about ways to put this into the mix.
Kathy Galvin
Member, City Council
02:10:27
I'm just so compelled to bring this up, because Friday's meeting was very, very intense and informative.
Bob Fenwick
Member, City Council
02:10:33
Great.
02:10:36
Any other?
02:10:37
Well, I agree.
02:10:38
This is a start, and it's long overdue, but it is a start, and as long as we keep going forward.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
02:10:45
We will.
MATTERS BY THE PUBLIC
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
02:10:47
Okay, we're going to open our final public hearing, or matters to the public, sorry, matters to the public at the very end here.
02:10:54
Sorry, it's been a long day.
02:10:57
So, matters to the public, anyone like to come up and speak?
02:11:03
With three minutes, please say your name and address.
02:11:05
You know the drill, Ms. Johnson.
SPEAKER_27
02:11:07
Got it.
02:11:09
Good evening.
02:11:10
My name is Joy Johnson.
02:11:11
I reside at 823 D Hardy Drive.
02:11:14
I really came here tonight because I was here to support my community, Rose Hill Drive.
02:11:22
I came here to do that, but somehow I missed the email that it's not here tonight.
02:11:28
But while I'm sitting here tonight, there's a couple of things.
02:11:31
that I've heard.
02:11:32
One, the flowers last year, y'all cut the budget for the flowers that are given out to community.
02:11:39
I want to ask you to please put that back in the budget because whether you know it or not, there are some people who can't afford or know how to seed.
02:11:50
And so getting the plants from Parks and Rec and planting them,
02:11:55
it's very useful and so I just stopped Mr. Dallin and he said that you all cut that budget so I'm here to encourage you all to put it back in because every year I go and pick up flowers and get it to the communities and when I was told that they don't have a whole lot of flowers this year we have to figure out how we get it so I just want to say that.
02:12:18
The second thing is I just want to
02:12:22
Just tell you all a little story within the time I have left about Rose Hill Drive.
02:12:27
When I came here, the first place that I reside was at Veneta Courts.
02:12:34
And Veneta Courts is where I, and I went to school at Rose Hill Drive, but the first families I met in the Rose Hill Drive community were the Shackefords.
02:12:46
I went to school with their kids, their friends,
02:12:50
and they were kind of like the anchor of that neighborhood.
02:12:55
Booker Street, Forest Street, all of that community, we all were like an anchor.
02:13:05
And so preservation of that neighborhood for me and for the Shackelfords, when I see the encroachment on where Miss Shackelford lived, it kind of
02:13:18
breaks my heart.
02:13:20
I know that we have to build up, but I think we have to some point start thinking about the integrity and the character of the neighborhood.
02:13:29
So, they're not here tonight, but since I'm here, I just want to tell you, that's where I grew up.
02:13:36
When I came from New York, I came from Jamaica, then I went to New York, and then I came.
02:13:42
That was the first, for me, it was a life change.
02:13:48
They made me feel very welcome.
02:13:50
They made everybody in that neighborhood feel very welcome.
02:13:53
I think we need to really listen to them about how we build and what we build around them, because they are a history and they are an anchor of the Rose Hill neighborhood.
02:14:05
Thank you.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
02:14:06
Thank you.
02:14:12
Any others?
SPEAKER_29
02:14:17
Edith Goode, Second Street.
02:14:20
I want to support Ms. Johnson's remarks, but also I have a question for Mr. Bellamy.
02:14:29
You said I missed the date of the Black Town Hall.
02:14:34
I hope it's the fifth Monday and not the fourth Monday because the CRHA meets.
02:14:40
So it is the fifth Monday?
Wes Bellamy
Vice Mayor, City Council
02:14:42
The 30th, yes ma'am.
SPEAKER_29
02:14:43
Thank you.
SPEAKER_09
02:14:51
Rebecca Quinn, Fourth Street.
02:14:52
I have two things.
02:14:53
One, one of the very first things I remembered when I moved here nine years ago, and the downtown mall, Reed-Bricking, was part of the heated discussion, was Vannieri's did an evaluation of the trees.
02:15:07
And I didn't hear the tree commission guy say anything about that.
02:15:10
I think it would be very interesting to look at the two.
02:15:14
They're about 10 years apart.
02:15:16
And kind of, were the issues that Vannieri's identified
02:15:20
have they come about, have what we've been doing made a difference, that sort of thing.
02:15:25
But the other is about parking.
02:15:27
I have to say I'm quite surprised to hear a professional, a psychologist, and apparently lawyers play in the two hour shuffle.
02:15:36
You know, if you, maybe our parking garages are full, I don't know, but if you have one more client you can probably pay for a month's worth of parking.
02:15:48
Do we need more parking garages?
02:15:51
I don't know.
02:15:52
I just spent two weeks in Louisville, and the place is every other block a municipal parking lot.
02:15:59
It's maybe starting to foster some development, but we're not trying to foster development.
02:16:04
We're trying to keep what we have.
02:16:06
We want people here.
02:16:07
We want to have parking.
02:16:08
We want to keep the accountant courthouse here.
02:16:11
So I haven't paid a whole lot of attention to all the parking issues.
02:16:16
But come on, people.
02:16:17
You know, there are options.
02:16:20
Run your own benefit cost analysis and I think some people will find knowing where your car is, parking it once a day might actually be a good solution.
SPEAKER_10
02:16:37
Nancy Carpenter again, still living in Rose Hill, love it.
02:16:41
Thank you Ms. Johnson for your comments.
02:16:43
It did trigger something that I have noticed here since I've moved there.
02:16:47
I walk home a lot from downtown and where the Cardinal Hall intersection is with Preston.
02:16:54
It's become quite difficult sometimes to go across that one particular street and it might be worthwhile to perhaps if you're doing some studies to maybe look at traffic studies.
02:17:04
I've seen some near misses between pedestrians and cars, between cars and cars, and I don't think that was particularly the case maybe a year or so ago.
02:17:14
It seems with the popularity of that, there'll be another brewery not too far from there.
02:17:20
There's some more development across the street that's happening.
02:17:23
So it looks like that particular intersection, before you get to Rose Hill and Preston, might be something that traffic engineers or somebody could be directed to look at before there is something that's not nice happen there.
02:17:37
So thank you.
Bob Fenwick
Member, City Council
02:17:38
Thank you.
Mike Signer
Mayor, City Council
02:17:41
Okay, I think, any others?
02:17:44
I think we're adjourned.
02:17:45
Thank you.