City Council Meeting   9/7/2010

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Do you have your dials?

I'd like to call this meeting to order, and we're going to start with the Pledge of Allegiance.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

Here.

Ms. Evera?

Mr. Norris?

I thought Bernard Ray was going to be here, but I'm.

Oh, OK. Kenny, why don't you come up?

Congratulations.

Thank you for your good work.

Can we have the staff in the back stand up?

And here to receive this proclamation is Charles Warner.

Thank you, thank you.

proclaim this September National Preparedness Month also and most recently our governor has done the same thing too and I appreciate anything that you all can do to help us in our preparedness for whatever type of hazard may come our way.

And we'll have a preparedness meeting Thursday morning at 10 o'clock at the Albemarle County Office Building for the Latino community.

And I believe we have Dr. Lindsey here to receive this on behalf of Java.

Let's give them a round of applause.

I look forward to working with our partnership and the Council in the future and again, thank you for your generous support.

Any other announcements from other counselors?

But keep in mind, in order for our children to be successful in school, it really does start the night before and getting them ready.

Any other announcements?

I just want you to announce the date for September 30th meeting, the timing of that meeting.

There will be dinner provided and fun activities for kids.

Thank you.

Please state your name and give us your address.

Thank you.

Neil Williamson.

Thank you for your service.

Peter Klingman.

Thank you very much.

Naomi Roberts.

If that was the case, they would stay in the county.

Ms. Roberts?

Yes.

Do you want to wrap it up real quick?

It's a slap in the face.

Rebecca Quinn.

Thank you.

Bill Kitrell.

Thank you very much.

Thank you, Mr. Mitchell.

the approved plan modified with a concrete dam built on top of the existing dam at Ragged Mountain and what is commonly referred to, if you'll excuse me, Mayor Norris, the Norris plant based on, if you give us another name for that we'll be glad to use it, I can't come up with it.

I blame Brian Wheeler for that one.

Thank you for allowing me to speak with you again on the subject.

Liz Palmer.

Thank you.

Megan Keith-Hines.

Dee Dee Smith

Thank you.

Yes.

So if you're in favor of dogs, I think you should have no problem with the coats.

And Bob Fenwick.

Thank you.

Dr. Brown?

I appreciate all the good comments and people taking the time to come make them.

Ms. Edwards, anything to add?

Because I did go by there to see how things were different with the signage, and it was a little bit better.

We can provide information back to council.

And I'd like to maybe figure out how we're going to have a plan to see how things are going over the next three or four months to make sure that this is something that we're having everything in place so that this can be a smooth process.

But we also have some property near the transit center, the new transit headquarters that we might be able to use as a way to corral the goats until the owners are found.

about the funeral possession?

Mr. Huja?

I'm looking forward to seeing Ms. Edwards riding her bike next time.

Maybe I'll ride, I guess the goats would be too small for me to ride them.

Anything else?

Item of business, which is appointments to boards and commissions.

Mr. Mayor, I move that this council appoint Chad Freckman to the Charlottesville Albemarle Regional Transportation Plan Citizen Advisory Committee, that we appoint Christopher Burton to the Community Development Block Grant Task Force, and that we appoint Patricia Stevenson to the Regional Disability Service Board.

Second.

And Dr. Brown, did you want to?

I'd like to have item I, the ordinance on the

So we have three Jefferson School items before us tonight, and Mr. Jones, I don't know which order you want to do these, but in no particular order, we have the ordinance conveying the property, we have a public hearing and an ordinance petition to rezone the property on first of two readings, and we have a report and a resolution regarding the funding agreement between the City of Charlottesville and CETA, the Economic Development Authority, for the renovation of the Jefferson School.

Typically we do the public hearing first and Brian Hleska will be presenting.

Mr. Hleska.

The Planning Commission approved this unanimously, recommended approval unanimously.

Any comments or discussion or a motion to approve?

With that in mind, I will make a motion to approve this request.

Next item, we will

Conveyance, sure, conveyance of the property.

Mr. Jones?

If you have any questions, we're here to answer this.

Any questions for Mr. Jones on the amendments specifically or a motion to approve the amendments?

I move the motion for remembrance.

Is there a second?

Second.

Mr. Jones.

and this would allow them to proceed with, of course, this very important phase of this project.

Just for clarification, that additional half a million will allow them to do the construction drawings and things like that?

Mr. Brown, did you have anything that you wanted to add?

Any further questions on this item or a motion to approve the resolution?

I so move.

And I believe is Miss Mueller, oh, Miss Hildebrand.

Okay.

Some of you were introduced to Greg Ziminski with Black & Veatch last Thursday at the council's water supply work session and he is here tonight to give a little more detail on how they went through the feasibility study and looking at how to upgrade the lower Ragged Mountain Dam.

That's all I've got.

Thank you.

Yes, I do.

My question is that if you build 13 feet dam addition, can you build on top of it to make it 45?

Do you want to come forward?

It would be a slightly larger cross section, more materials, slightly larger cost.

Thank you.

What kind of challenges do you envision in doing a concrete dam of this scale?

So those materials would need to be trucked in.

Other questions?

Drudging RFP and it says ordinance, but I don't believe that's accurate.

Because HDR is the likely contractor to probably do this work to have the most knowledge at this point since they completed the feasibility study.

The likeliest contractor to...

Thank you.

Not necessarily the firm that... No, not the contract... Do they actually do driving HDR?

Questions, Ms. Hildebrandt?

to drop a document, but we can figure that out.

and it would be basically like putting together a construction contract, which takes a little more.

It's a different beast.

It's different.

I was very impressed in reading your report, and I'm glad that you're here tonight to share with us and share with the community the results of this year's program.

So I guess what I'd like to do is show you the DVD and then I will be open for any kind of questions or comments.

Oh, in the deepest sky, somebody's broken heart, in a washed-out dream, as they follow the path of a wind that's cheap.

They got no place for me, that's why I'm starting with me, I'm starting with the wind.

If you wanna make the world a better place Take a look at yourself and then make a change I've been stuffed in with a man in the mirror I'm asking him to change his ways

If you wanna make the world a better place Take a look at yourself and make the change Stuck in with the man and the girl Oh yeah, I've got the man who changes ways I'll change from the man to the man and to the man If you wanna make the world come back to place Take a look at yourself

You're gonna make a change It's gonna make you good some more Just let yourself, you know You got to stop making yourself good Make that change You got to, you got to

and Michael

All my life I've been waiting for I've been praying for For the people to say That we don't wanna fight no more There'll be no more wars And our children will say

Of course, if we get any bigger, we won't be able to show you the DVD in my allotment of time, because the more kids that get involved with the program, the more the DVD expands.

So I think you guys have done a great job, and thank you.

You're welcome.

I will support it.

Explore how we can get a match savings plan going also to encourage the kids to save.

I hope you got a little rest after it was over.

Thank you very much.

Mr. Jim Tolbert.

So again, what you have is the same ordinance, it just would restrict it in residential areas rather than the entire city, which was not our intent.

Remind us and remind the public what the intent of this ordinance change is.

But we've had complaints from a good many of our residents and the police tell me they've had complaints again in residential areas late at night.

It should be applied to residential and not to commercial because you'll worry about a lot of businesses if you put it in commercial.

So you need to amend the ordinance and then vote on the ordinance, right?

Is there a second on the amendment?

A second.

Dr. Brown, do you want to?

And then secondly, can you give examples of either existing types of things that have been problems and examples of businesses of existing things people have in front of their stores such as books that would be either impacted or not impacted by the five foot requirement?

Again, it's pretty, we feel like it's pretty simple, but it just, it sets out some basic rules so we don't lose all the public space to merchant displays.

So you sent this to the DBAC and there wasn't any opposition to it?

Right, and I talked to Mr. Stroh today and he indicated that he felt like he did exactly what they wanted us to do.

That was some of the complaints, you know, I want to leave my flowers out at night, I don't want to drag them in and out, so we changed it to allow that.

Those were the questions I had.

Any other questions on this item or a motion to approve?

I'll move approval.

Second.

Good evening.

Thank you very much.

Anybody else like to speak?

Is that going to be including the ordinance that they're going to be treated just like the domestic, the dogs?

That was not included.

Thank you.

Ms. Smith?

Thank you.

Anybody else like to speak?

So that's all I have.

Any councilor want to respond to anything that was just said?

I have myself some concerns about the hydraulic mucky interchange and I would like to work with the staff to see if we can look at that again as to what can be done.

So thank you.

This ordinance wouldn't prohibit a delivery, a food delivery company from making a delivery in a residential neighborhood after certain...

Yes, sir.

The meeting's adjourned.

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