Human Rights Commission Regular Meeting   2/15/2024

Good evening, folks.

Can you guys hear me?

Six or seven times a year.

Oh, not a bad place to go six or seven times a year.

Not a bad place.

If you ever need a travel partner.

Let you know.

At this point in time.

Caroline, he says he can hear now.

OK, good.

A little bit.

That might just be a volume thing.

We're working on the system here, Todd.

There we go.

There we go.

Yes.

Is the volume good for everybody?

Thank you so much, Caroline.

Oh, there you go.

I do.

I was emailing with Charlie.

He's been covering at work because a lot of folks have COVID there.

So he said he can't make it this evening.

OK.

But I think that's the only person I've heard from.

Is that OK?

No.

The mics in here are very sensitive.

I think so.

So let's go ahead and call this meeting to order at 6.34 PM on February 15, 2024.

Good evening to all and we would like to welcome Ms. Angela, Ms. Estes, so welcome to your first commission meeting.

Thank you, it's a pleasure being here.

Absolutely.

And for your name in the hat and coming in to the human rights commission.

Thank you.

So we have a couple that are hopefully on their way and one that is not.

So we are thankful for them as well.

Yes, I will do that.

I'm sorting out my screens here.

It's funny, I haven't done this.

the Zoom management of everything in a while.

So bear with me as it takes me a second to get my screen all set.

Ernest.

Present.

You're present.

Mary, waiting.

Hi, here.

We know Charlie's out.

Angela, welcome.

Thank you, here.

And Kathryn, not yet?

Not yet.

And Andy?

Ah.

Yeah.

Welcome, Kathryn.

Yeah, Kathryn and Mary.

And Mary.

And Mary.

We were doing roll call, so we just added you in.

It's OK.

I'll wait for you guys so we can do the awkward mission statement together.

But that's the, our mission statement is on, Ms. Angela, our mission statement is on the back of your tent.

Yeah.

We're in voices.

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Do we have anyone virtually other than Todd?

No.

All right.

Matters of the public.

So we have no one, correct?

Correct.

And no one in the audience?

Nope.

All right.

We'd like to take the minutes from January the 18th.

All right.

We will do a roll call vote to approve the minutes.

Ernest?

Yes.

Ah, yes.

Welcome.

Oh, sorry.

I love them, except I wasn't actually at last month's meeting, so I'm abstaining.

OK.

I was multitasking, and honestly, no one can do that.

Yes, also.

Great.

Great.

And Andy.

I'm staying.

All right.

Business Matters, Chairman.

Okay, so a couple of things.

I don't know if we should leave this to the end, but I do want to say thank you to Jeanette and Andy for their time on the commission.

You guys have, it was nice getting, I mean, I've known Andy for a while because I've taught his kids and it's been nice meeting Jeanette through the connection and her work with Cultivate.

So just excited to hate to see you leave, but also understand that there are probably other things that you probably have in mind to do or that you would like to do.

I'd just love to say that I think you all are exceptional humans.

And I've learned so much being on this commission.

It's pretty awkward to build relationships in this kind of setting.

So it's not like I feel like we've really gotten to know each other in that way.

But through the advocacy that you each bring to the table and the insight and care, it's just been a really wonderful experience.

I'm so glad.

And I'm so glad to see the two of you in your leadership roles.

Thank you all for what you do.

It's been, it's been commissioned a while.

I've been through a few transitions and it's really, it's great to see when the board is, you know, really on the same page and moving ahead.

I'm glad to see the HUD agreement and the housing

Yeah, employment and the housing agreements moving forward.

That was kind of a long-term thing.

And to the staff as well.

Todd, you're a fantastic leader with incredible integrity and thoroughness in your work.

It's really great to see you model that here.

and the staff that you've had as well.

And I see you back there.

Thank you guys.

As people leave, we also add people.

My name is Angela Estes.

I am born and raised in Charlottesville, Virginia.

I left 37 years ago to raise my children in Northern Virginia.

I'm back because my mom needed help with my father.

I work remotely from home, so I work for Tullis Health.

Health, Wellness, Pension, Payroll, Benefits, Administration, and Solutions.

I have a team of 78 globally, direct reports, and I travel a lot sometimes, sometimes not.

We know.

Yeah.

Well, and personal, I'm getting ready to travel even more as I wind down my career.

And I'm mom to two daughters.

My eldest is 42.

My youngest is 31, but I have a granddaughter who, my eldest was in the military, right?

So at 19, she called me from Vincenza, Italy and said, mom, help me with this baby.

So I'm running out of my grandbaby and I've had her.

She's 22, she graduates from VCU psychology major.

in May.

She's sitting for her master's.

She has an internship with the detective, you know, forensic science and police department here, as well as an internship with the Commonwealth Attorney's Office in Charlottesville.

So I'm giving her four more years and I'm out of support.

So yeah, I knew, you know, when I came back, I said I should be doing more and I just didn't know what I should be doing.

I know I worked

Many commissions in Northern Virginia assisting.

And I was like, hmm.

So I'm an empty nester, right?

So yeah.

So I'm traveling personally a whole lot more professionally as well.

So I'm very happy to be a part of this commission.

Yes.

I'm looking forward to getting there myself again.

Come on.

Join, yeah.

Well, cool.

Thank you, thank you.

That's basically what I had.

We've been having phone calls with staff, working on an annual meeting.

I hope you guys saw the date and times and stuff.

So we have planned a lot of stuff.

So we hope that everybody can attend on March 10th.

and things like that.

Anything I would say, if you can, try to listen to city council meetings and things like that and try to keep your ear to the ground of things going on, especially housing-wise.

I know Lilly sends out information about meetings and things, so I mean, a lot of stuff is virtual, so they have a virtual option, so it doesn't mean you always have to be,

in the place, but if you can listen while you're doing dishes or riding in your car or something like that, try to do that.

So you can have as much information as you can about the incident going on in the city and around.

So that's all I have that I know of.

I can start out for that.

We just released the public facing focus area survey, as you probably already know.

But if you are able to spread that around to people that you know and your networks, that would be great.

So we can get

As many responses as possible.

Last time I checked, we had about 175 so far.

So that's pretty good.

It will close March 4th at noon.

And I'm also still doing one-on-one outreach meetings.

If anybody would like to talk to me, I'd love to hear from you.

And there are events in your agenda packet that are upcoming.

I'll continue to email them to you as they come up.

I have a few things.

Just wanted to give a quick shout out to the staff who've been working really hard.

Everybody on the team has now gone through the EEOC's 32 hour investigator training, which is really important from the perspective of

Having sort of some redundancy in the skill set across the entire office so that everybody can help one another on the individual complaint work that comes in.

It's really exciting to see Saad and Shail really kind of taking on the intake and investigation piece, seeing that system finally come to kind of fruition as we've imagined it over the many years.

So that's exciting.

Wanted to celebrate that a little bit.

I think Saad, Shailah and Lily are also going to be going to the EEOC's new intake counselor training as well.

So that's one of those things I've always wanted to take.

I'm not going to be able to go with them, but they're going to be doing that coming up.

So that's exciting as well.

That'll just sort of round out the skill sets and then in terms of the intake counseling as well as the investigator piece.

And then we're looking forward

to have access to more training when we get into the FAB workshare agreement, which that's a fair housing assistance program that Andy was mentioning.

I think I'm about ready to get another meeting with HUD and city attorney because I've worked on the ordinance about as far as I can take it without asking a few more questions of HUD now.

But my goal is to sort of push that through and see if we can get that in front of council, maybe

Maybe same time of year, don't know a date yet, but that's the goal, if not earlier.

So that's a good thing.

Those are happening and those will lead to more staff building opportunities as well.

So that's exciting.

Other things to note, our annual report is now pretty much done in final draft form.

Probably need some editing after I drafted all the narratives, but I'm hoping to

have that in a presentation form for you at the annual meeting as well to sort of give you some information about how to what happened in 2023 so you can think about what to do in 2024 and then last but not least certainly Andy and Jeanette wanted to thank you guys so much for your service I wish I could be there in person to say this but it's been a joy to work with both of you

And it's been a while, right?

You guys have been both on the commission for quite some time.

So really, really appreciate your dedication amidst all the other things that you've got going on professionally and personally, and we'll miss seeing you guys regularly.

But we would love to maybe talk with you guys about doing maybe an exit interview coming up here.

So

Stay around.

Don't go away yet, guys.

I would love to talk to you.

We'd really love to see kind of your outgoing thoughts to help us think about how we do things in the future.

So I think that's all I got.

Thank you, Todd.

It's kind of awkward having you behind me.

All right.

We want to discuss, we have

a work session on March the 7th and a regular meeting on March 21st.

So we're talking about the month of March.

We have our annual meeting on March the 9th.

Todd and I, we talked a little, Todd and I and Lily, we talked a little bit earlier this week or was it like, it was Friday.

It was Friday.

And we talked about how

We're thinking that maybe since this is budget time, and usually city council kind of uses this space for budget discussions, especially on Thursdays, would anybody be opposed of us counseling a work session on the 7th and our regular meeting on the 21st if we do good work?

on March 15th.

If we get a good star, if we get a gold star.

Well, I mean, I mean, we would pass on the 7th, but so the 20th, the 21st would be the... You can hold that one over our heads.

Yes.

Is anybody opposed to that?

I think my, I mean, y'all have all, have already discussed this, so.

We talked about it, but we want to bring it to you guys, find out how you guys felt about that.

I think, I personally am okay with the seventh.

That makes a ton of sense.

The only thing

I don't know if there will be anything that comes out of March 9th that we might want to utilize time on the 21st.

Can we hold the time until after March 9th or during March 9th?

Can we make a final decision?

Since that's our regular meeting, it should be held.

The 21st should be held for us anyway.

The 7th is the one that gets kind of icky because that's the time when city council is doing budget meeting stuff.

And I think we were slated to go to Carver on the 7th if we had to.

Yeah.

OK.

So do we want to hold?

Yeah.

Whatever you think is best.

Shoot.

I think the only reason I suggested maybe holding it is where we meet on March 9th, and then if we don't have the 21st meeting,

We don't meet again until, for about a month.

We're going to start with all of us.

That's right.

Yeah.

Do we, Todd and Lily, do we have a work session date in April?

The fourth?

Okay, so that means we will have to go to another space.

Okay.

Yep.

So we do have that.

At first I was, but now I feel like, you know, I'm thinking we're going to do great work on that's there.

And then, you know, we have the 21st and then we have the 4th in our back pockets if we need to.

And I've got Carver reserved for all of them right now.

But if you're seeing not the 7th, I can tell Nancy over at Carver we're out for that one.

Oh, so let's see.

I'll post public notice pretty soon.

Yeah, good question.

And I don't know, Caroline may be able to elaborate on who's doing that now.

I know it kind of depends on the kind of sort of the setup, which team member from communications does that, but I can, I can give them a heads up sooner rather than later.

Yeah.

So, you know, cause I don't want to wait until the last minute because I know for them, there's a setup.

They need to find, have people and set up over there for a virtual

Not just spiritual but for people to listen in.

Ernest, do you think you could decide on the 9th?

Would that work after the 9th?

Let's do that at the end of the meeting on the 9th.

We'll make a decision.

If we need

The 21st, and I'm definitely thinking if we don't need the 21st, we're going to meet on the 4th.

That's a long time for us not to meet.

And if we've done great work on the 9th, then we definitely need to be holding each other accountable and making sure we're putting things in place on April 4th.

Everybody good?

Awesome.

Give her a thumbs up.

I couldn't get to my mute button.

Space Barbie.

Can you say the story?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'll be here.

I'll probably run into the Nats and see the Nats game or something like that during my time.

But I'll be here on that Thursday.

All right.

All right.

We all good for that right now?

Would everybody, if you have either paper or your device, can look at the agenda for March 9th planning meeting, planning and planning meeting.

If everyone has had, I will give you a few seconds to kind of look over that.

Who is the facilitator?

Her name is Rachel Randall.

I saw the name Rachel, but I assumed it was Rachel.

I just didn't know.

She's local and does facilitation of meetings?

Yes.

Thank you to the staff for vetting presenters and finding someone that fits what we wanted and our needs.

Price range.

So.

Any other questions?

Yeah, hopefully I can sweet talk Charlayne and help us out with that.

Any other questions or anything about the setup or what we're going to do?

The icebreaker will be light.

Just want to make sure we get to know each other.

That's everything.

And then if you go look, if you continue to look down your packet with the annual focus areas, goals, and work plan,

It gives you, you know, our goals, ordinances, and also gives you a flow of what we need to be focused on.

I do want to make sure, you know, seeing that the city council members appreciate us getting them legislative priorities.

I want to make sure we continue to do that.

So that also may be a focus in our annual meeting, be looking at what those could be to get to them since they need.

So we need to draft that by August.

So that's something we should be looking at.

What else is on here?

A couple of years ago, we did an awesome outreach meeting that we had here.

I think we did it online, actually, with a panel discussion.

And we've done a couple of those.

And I think they've been pretty successful.

That's probably something else we probably need to look at, who we want to bring in as panelists.

There's some around housing, homelessness and that type of thing.

First time I'm seeing the different focus area, second to last page one.

We have like a way that we're planning to distinguish primary versus secondary focus areas.

Or is it part of the facilitated process that Rachel's going to walk us through?

A couple questions, I guess.

I think that this document is just intended to be sort of like a starting point draft for everyone to work with.

It is an optional secondary meeting right now.

And then just like you all do with these meetings, in advance will we receive like the existing policy, like all, like be able to pre-read all of the stuff that we're able to pre-read?

Great.

Any other questions, anything?

Yeah, timelines help.

You're not searching for stuff.

And you know how to guide your meetings and your priorities during that time.

I have one more super logistical question.

So is this annual meeting being recorded just like we typically record meetings?

Yes.

Okay.

And is there a way we can set up this room so we are not, I mean, I get that we need to be on camera, but I also like in terms of having these conversations, it feels

Like to be talking about group norms, to be talking about like where we want to focus on, et cetera.

I mean, I think this is okay, but I don't think it's an ideal like way to sit for eight hours and talk about all this stuff from like a facilitator.

I was going to guess the facilitator would say the same thing.

I mean, the other problem is, as I understand it from the expert source of Molly's tweets, meetings in this room that are being broadcast are basically unintelligible.

I don't know if that's been fixed.

I don't know if Todd has any insight or...

I think that issue's been resolved.

It has been?

Just a question, can you elaborate on that?

Like, is it that she can't even hear, she can't hear what's being said during the live broadcast?

And follow up to that would be, what is the recording?

Is she finding the recordings?

It's the live broadcast.

And I don't know if city staff can speak more to what the issue is, but it is often the audio is unintelligible, whether you listen to the

That's so helpful to know.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I just know our director, deputy director and our comms coordinator, I believe last week they met with IT to discuss the issue.

And I didn't, can't tell, I couldn't tell you what the issue was, but I'm almost certain it would have gotten resolved because Afton would not have left something like that.

If I can share, like historically, we used to just do an audio recording.

You didn't have to have a visual.

And I'm curious if that was sufficient, that we record an audio version of our meeting.

To be honest, we actually had retreats with no recording.

We had journals taking notes, and people live tweeting.

No recording whatsoever.

So I don't think there is a, I don't think there's a legal requirement for the recording.

Yes.

One thing on that.

So I'll talk to Tyler.

about the recording is it really facilitates taking the minutes and minutes are something that are absolutely required by law but the video piece isn't necessarily so we could potentially give our communication friends a break and we could pull out the old digital recorder and put that in the center of the room just to capture the audio for the purpose of minutes and I think

You know, there's been some talk as well by the facilitator of potentially breakout groups.

It's impossible to capture

you know, four breakout groups in a single recording.

But I also think minutes can also just reflect the main takeaways.

Like we don't have to capture everything that's discussed as long as there's a summary of what was decided upon and what took place in terms of final decisions and things like that that came out of breakout groups.

So Todd, just check in on that, make sure.

I don't want Ashley coming after us and you got in trouble.

Because we didn't do.

But I like that option.

Agreed.

Yeah, I mean, I don't mind questions and things like that, because if we can work through some things, there could be options for us.

But if we don't talk about it, we don't know.

If we don't ask a question, we don't know.

And I'd rather ask right now, see what we have, and put it in Lily and Todd's hands, and for us to get back to us, and then move on.

I agree.

There's a lot of stuff in the norms and things like that that, you know, the general public doesn't need to worry about from us.

It's more for us.

All right.

You're talking about the wild thing that Walt Heineken had added into the bylaws?

Yes.

I think we can ignore it.

I think it's a matter of like the idea of research is fairly subjective, right?

So like if we're if we're expanding and filling in an information gap that is in essence research versus conducting a random controlled experiment with the city, which would also be research, but also probably unethical.

I don't have to get into that, but.

A broad definition of the word research can help us fix, we still meet the requirements of the ordinance.

I think that you fulfilled that aspect of the ordinance.

You're doing research when you're contacting, like for example, last year, right?

You're contacting housing groups, you're getting feedback, you're following meetings, you're inviting panelists to give you the knowledge that you need to ultimately develop some sort of work product or deliverable for council.

I mean, that is the gist of that piece of the ordinance.

And if you remember,

It started out as this hard and fast research project kind of mandate, but then it got diluted a little bit to the point of it could be a project or a review or things like that.

It's flexible.

I think that you're fulfilling that.

If somebody feels differently, they may well tell us.

But yeah, I wouldn't sweat it too much because I think you're doing work that makes sense for the community.

Awesome.

Thank you.

Well, thank you for bringing it up and I'm glad we had that discussion.

All right.

I wanted to raise one issue quickly and probably for discussion another time.

It's been reported that the city has purchased a lot at Levy Avenue and Avon.

Some discussion about whether it would be a homeless shelter or whether it would facilitate

Somebody else, unclear kind of, but it seemed to me that at some point it could be useful for the commission to articulate support for the idea that we want.

I mean, it's right around the corner from my home and I hear some sort of rumblings in the neighborhood that not everybody's thrilled about it.

And personally, I'm thrilled about it and I welcome it to my neighborhood.

It seems like the commission may want to say something.

in support of those efforts.

Ms. Freeman, we've commented on the providers of emergency housing in Charlottesville are both not year-round and also come with their own value sets that are not necessarily equitable and accessible to all.

And so the city being able to fill that gap would

Allow us to make something truly equitable or more equitable than the current provision is.

I'm not really proposing that we do anything with this minute.

I just embrace it as an issue.

I think it would be a community.

Right there across the street from where they're building and working on the bridge.

It's a good size lot.

Yeah, it's a nice size lot.

And a good spot.

Walking distance to downtown, stuff like that.

Oh, man.

Yes, yes.

Let's do that.

Okay.

I will talk to Wolfgang and Todd and hopefully try to develop something, have something for you guys at annual meeting.

Let me have something that we can sit to counsel on at our annual meeting.

Well, this is a really new business.

It's following up on full business.

And we don't have to do this right now, but maybe for a future meeting, I'd love to know where things stand with the request we made of the Salvation Army.

And then we had talked about kind of following up on that discussion.

I don't know that we ever heard back.

Or maybe I just missed it.

Can you elaborate on what we saw?

Yeah, it's so historical.

OK, I think.

All right, I started talking, making noises, so I'll continue that, I suppose.

OK, we had the honor of meeting with Salvation Army leadership primarily to discuss, well, to meet the incoming folks and incoming leadership.

And then they wanted the funding for expansion.

They proposed expanding their facility and wanted our support.

in that project to take to the powers that be.

Really just going to council.

And so our discussion evolved over a course of things and ended up asking really about LGBTQ plus inclusion in their facilities.

and it was, I think, it was kind of divisive amongst us.

Some were saying- As well as visibility, accessibility.

There were many aspects of what we were concerned.

I guess to summarize maybe the two main opinions of the commission, correct me if I'm wrong because I'm summarizing y'all's perspectives.

One perspective was that we would have issues supporting the Salvation Army

if they were not able to offer more transparency in their policies.

And another perspective saying, well, we absolutely need to support this because

We need to support housing wherever it comes.

And also the city doesn't have a third perspective to itself.

The city is not providing any housing, any emergency housing.

So who are we to be critical of any providers of any of it?

So I think in the end, we supported the expansion of Salvation Army to council based on our belief that we need more housing.

We need more emergency housing access.

They are doing the work.

in the community.

We support the expansion.

We wanted them to show us that they were in fact in compliance.

And we asked for information to come back.

And as far as I know that conversation then didn't move forward.

I don't know that we ever got what we needed.

And we had a discussion at that time that

That I know of.

Has it gone a second?

Yeah.

That's out of it, yes.

Yeah, yeah.

We still want to know what they're doing.

The person we were talking to was so new.

He said, I don't.

Right.

He basically couldn't give answers to us on the spot.

I just looked through our exchange.

We had some more answers from Captain Van Meter, who's the individual that we spoke with.

They address some more things about their policies.

Um, specifically for HUD regulations, accessibility, um, LGBTQ identity, and then also, um, safe space training that they provide for their, their service providers.

And so I can forward that letter back out.

Oh, so send a, send a letter, if you can, send a letter out.

Um, and you guys look at that.

And just make sure that's sufficient enough or what we need to do more, get more information.

Okay.

Should be in your inboxes.

That's what we need.

Angela, are you on our distro currently?

Are you getting our emails?

Same.

You are.

Then I will not have those resend it.

All right.

So we'll get, send that information out.

You can look at the letter and let me know.

Thanks.

All right.

Any other new business?

No?

All right, matters of the public.

Do we have anybody on for public comment?

Anybody in the back?

Questions, anything for us?

Well, welcome and hello.

So I guess we don't have any response from the commissioners about public comment.

There is a Louisville Seaville webinar on inclusive transportation.

The speaker is Veronica Davis and I can't read because it's something I need to remember from the city.

Somebody from the city is going to be there.

It's Veronica Davis and some good person from City Hall who can speak about Charlottesville policies.

It is on March 13th.

I'll send the link out because there's an event, right?

That's on transportation?

Yeah, it's Ben Chambers.

Any other new business or any other commissioners or any other any other commissioner updates?

I don't have anything.

One of the colorful charts.

I got you.

Page 22.

But it includes that tomorrow I'm doing a presentation to staff at

Sarah about our office and about the commission and services just so that they are able to refer people to us as necessary.

And then, okay, this is out of order.

I apologize.

What was it?

But thank you for doing that yesterday and for speaking with Sarah on tomorrow.

I'm going to find another place to put that.

That's the big dot in that spot.

We're going to be out there a little bit more so we can see that.

All right, any other commission updates?

All right, so next steps, we make sure I confirm with Todd about how we can handle the annual meeting.

Confirm with Todd, I wait for you guys' response on the information that we're getting to send you guys from Captain Van Meter from the Salvation Army, if we need to do anything else with that.

You and I are going to, I guess, make a draft that kind of discusses why commissions should support a homeless shelter, either at intersection at Levi and Avon or at a theoretical approach.

Yes.

Yeah.

I'll let it together for that, for the support.

Very rough draft.

Yes.

Yeah, trying to get together for our annual meeting.

And then I also heard we should encourage people to complete the human rights survey.

Yes.

It's either a multiple choice question or a fill in the blank.

Okay, yeah.

You can choose from one of the options.

And how are we getting that out to set it going out?

It has been posted on the city social media pages, thanks to Caroline.

And I think there are a few more posts scheduled to go out before it closes.

And it's also I wrote a press release that had the link.

So that is out.

That's available on the city website.

And also people who subscribe to those press releases get it directly in their inbox.

I have flyers with a QR code for people to complete it that I'm planning to distribute tomorrow.

Yes, and it was in the newsletter.

It was in Seaville Tomorrow, I think.

Yeah, that too.

Yeah, I saw that too.

Yeah, he did a good job getting it.

Yeah.

Cool.

But if anybody has any other ideas for ways that I could get it out.

Y'all can look for my handle.

All right, well, people show up to protest.

Yeah, I know.

I know it's a bad one.

Yes, sir.

You saw me.

I was also just going to say you're doing next steps.

Just another plug for Lily's one-on-ones.

I think a few commissioners have done those.

Maybe those commissioners who have can attest that they're not frightening and actually quite a good opportunity to share your insight and perspectives to help us understand how we can best support you.

Lily is not frightening.

Lily's not frightening.

That's all.

We're just going to lean into the fear, if you are.

Yeah.

So thank you again, Lily.

So get your one-on-one.

And I hope that Andy and Jeanette will do an excellent interview with Lily and Todd.

So again, Jeanette and Andy, thank you for your time on commission.

We will miss you.

But I'm excited to hear and see what you're going to be doing next in our community.

Seconded.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you guys.

That seems like fun.

Can I keep my name?

Yes.

You all can come back anytime and do public comment or just come back to listen.