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City Council Retreat / Special Meeting   1/26/2024

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      after the hands on the back of the head.
    • SPEAKER_03
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      Thank you very much.
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      who blessed you to rule the people.
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      So, um, so we're going to have an introduction of the facilitator.
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      Sam, will you move to the last floor, sir?
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      Yes, sir.
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      Good morning, everybody.
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      Good morning to the members of the public who are on fire today.
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      It's important for us to get in our strategic planning with our thousands and set the course for the rest of this fiscal year and the next fiscal year.
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      and James Charles Franklin.
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      Charles has been a friend and a counselor to me, so I do appreciate him making himself available today.
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      He was served as the managing director of the Gigi Institute of Elements.
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      He himself is a fellow administrator, which is why he's become a friend, because I have someone who can viscerate this.
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      So, even though for much I am in contact with councillors, as well as the public, and that has been very helpful to have that medal available to me.
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      Did you guys get this now, Lloyd?
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      Whenever he's given, we've been appreciative to watch how he's been sharing just the size of what's already said on this space.
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      So, we're very excited to listen to that same one.
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      And as I will look at it, so I just need to understand this introduction.
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      One of the talks that we had in 2015 under the agenda was, why are we doing this?
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      And actually, we're dealing with a few very good reasons.
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      The bad things may not be coming from the days in general.
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      Oschrin, also a 25-day new job.
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      It's the same after I've been on the job for five months.
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      It's supercharging for six, commutation for four, and a number of other people that are interested in more things in the past 20, 40 months have been turned over.
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      So it's always important to stop and just really take stock.
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      They will go on and you're trying to go and make sure everyone's on the same page.
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      We also have a long-term job here.
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      So we're here holding this down, helping us catch up on things that we may come in soon and remember.
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      And then it's about bringing this team together.
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      So I think it's important for us to have this thing.
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      It's about one another.
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      It's about how we identify each other's priorities, how we relate, how we agree and disagree, and how we learn and work together.
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      So Charles, that's your son today.
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      Always remember those things out.
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      and Kyle Orson.
    • SPEAKER_02
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      They're not just for the program, they're for the council members present and for council to be on the agenda.
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      As a media official election, it means that we're really enjoying it.
    • SPEAKER_03
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    • SPEAKER_05
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      and Mr. Robert B. Ellison.
    • SPEAKER_03
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      Actions or anything else that they could do?
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      Good to get on.
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      It's all right.
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      We'll come up with a different one and then we can go ahead
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      It's a pleasure to be here with you today.
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      I was fortunate to have won with the biggest city council in the country.
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      I was at about a time of solicitation, strategic overview on the next.
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      It's a pleasure to be back with you.
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      I'm going to tell you a few things.
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      I'm just trying to prove to you tonight.
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      James Nolan, Mr. Sylvester Ray, Mrs. Stamford-Thompson, everybody's been here for a week now.
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      I think that was a good one.
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      Last time I listened to all three of you.
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      This is your community.
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      I'm a student of all of you who are obsessed today, who are being sad.
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      And so the all-around law allows me so much to talk about it, and I think it's a 90% of what we have to say.
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      I've had a lot of time lately.
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      I've been doing it just to say I'm saying thank you for your time.
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      Thank you for your time.
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      Thank you.
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      It's an honor to be here.
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      So I'll put a list of the names that are still missing.
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      I've dropped off, and I've had geographic names throughout the year.
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      And before that, I'm going to give you all a comparison of what I've said.
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      So do you understand what I'm saying?
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      Sam, I've said that there were three cases along the way, and I don't know what the answer would be.
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      So I don't know what the answer would be.
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      I don't know what the answer would be.
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      I don't know what the answer would be.
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      I don't know what the answer would be.
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      I don't know what the answer would be.
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      I don't know what the answer would be.
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      I don't know what the answer would be.
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      I don't know what the answer would be.
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      I don't know what the answer would be.
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      I don't know what the answer would be.
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      I don't know what the answer would be.
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      I don't know what the answer would be.
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      I don't know what the answer would be.
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      I don't know what the answer would be.
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      I
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      and some of the other people in the center, some of the vision that she's saying is not going to present a project that we can reach out to people who are there.
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      Let's be around a few percent of the time, take a look at real jobs levels.
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      You see the American music, the music, the dealings, sort of that kind of stuff that we're interested in.
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      And it's certainly, obviously, one of the most possible factors that we're going to want to make sure that come in.
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      Senator Sirlead, D-Search, Debra Fields & Salmon Center, obviously a lot of folks are familiar with it.
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      Let me share with you how this is happening and how we serve the world with all the human rights and policy.
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      If you have a degree that's a jail sentence, that's not a problem for me.
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      I'm a technical assistant at a consultancy department.
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      I've worked with several administrators for a long time.
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      I'm a technical assistant at a professional study.
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      and one of the things that we're going to be doing is on our Conventional and Technical System.
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      I say that we should not put words from the leaders on issues.
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      I'm having a really good meeting with that organization.
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      We're also going to have a leadership program.
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      It's really, really sad.
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      It's going to be a little better than this.
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      We also have people on the ground, everybody, versus where we
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      We're also going to the Constitutional Law Service and we're going to work with strategic planning, we're going to work with regulations, leadership team owns and the community's leader in the office.
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      You guys are doing some of the things that we've done, obviously, which is really good.
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      Prodigy Birch, senior there.
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      And for them, I think it's a lot.
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      Some of the rest is going to be in the classroom.
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      I'm going to set this to be finished in a few days.
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      And as I'm going to give you a council member, please answer the questions that we have.
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      And I'm going to make sure that you have a touch of your plans at least on every kind of representation.
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      So, I think that's what it's all about, I would say.
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      In my mind, it's a way to look at how our people are, you know, well, that's what it's sort of like in the last fashion of democracy.
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      That's what it is, how it's going.
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      That's what we've got access to.
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      We've got individuals that can actually talk to people, see them, make them, say to people, say, you can watch them with your child and visit when you speak to someone, any person.
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      We don't get that opportunity.
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      We're very often, that's what we're certainly going to do.
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      We've been set off, you know, we're all going to be working on this from the Constitution of Virginia.
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      We're going to be having several sessions, then we're going to see if there are any other people who can talk to us about what's going on in this country.
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      And obviously, as you know, I'm not a failure to set out.
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      If there's any interference, there's going to be this room.
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      It's not going to be right now.
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      There was a bad people that went into the policy ever came from.
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      Are you going to go up to the next point?
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      No, I'm just going to go up to Schumann.
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      I'm just going to go down a little bit closer.
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      We're also seeing, you know, in the United States, there was such a great ship that's better out in the United States.
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      So there's some of you already know, in the U.S., the U.S.
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      will be deciding what policies that would be best for the government.
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      And, of course, there are a number of policies that would be best for the government.
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      And, of course, there are a number of policies that would be best for the government.
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      And, of course, there are a number of policies that would be best for the government.
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      And, of course, there are a number of policies that would be best for the government.
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      And, of course, there are a number of policies that would be best for the government.
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      And, of course, there are a number of policies that would be best for the government.
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      And, of course, there are a number of policies that would be best for the government.
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      And, of course, there are a number of policies that would be best for the government.
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      And, of course, there are a number of policies
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      Yeah, I mean, some of this is like that, which I love you a little bit.
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      It was a good one, I would say.
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      It's a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very
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      I think that would be a good example.
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      And then we certainly would say so.
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      So with the gallery, the gallery, which is about the saints, for example, that is the gallery that is going to be one of the sort of the possibilities to probably be suitable for that kind of office challenge.
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      The shape of that, because you're close, but I think that's also a good way of making that happen.
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      He becomes the general of the United States.
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      He's the general of the United States.
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      He's the general of the United States.
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      He's the general of the United States.
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      He's the general of the United States.
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      He's the general of the United States.
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      He's the general of the United States.
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      He's the general of the United States
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      by the U.S.
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      Government, for example, across the United States.
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      You can have, instead of just paying the taxes to the city, you can pay the taxes to the district, the five district, to all of the federal services, then you can have the city move to the sub-division, the town city, you know, and move it back to your local institutions, because of that.
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      And then, on the other hand, you can be able to have the city, possibly, for years, all the time.
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      We only have
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      Lloyd said he was considered strong and comfortable to live in the city of Rivanna, but he just wants to know about the community, the public, financial management, and so on.
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      He had the outside and he said, work together to keep the community so that we can have some kind of communities.
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      So, I'm going to talk about the announcement of the program, and it will focus on the use of language in the overseas profession.
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      And I'm just going to say thank you to all of you who have set out on your program to originate this code.
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      And I'm going to go over the channel for some speech on it.
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      And we also have a think pack, so they might just help us out.
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      Charlottesville, Rivanna
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      They don't have a city manager.
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      They don't have a city manager.
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      They don't have a city manager.
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      They don't have a city manager.
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      They don't have a city manager.
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      They don't have a city manager.
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      They don't have a city manager.
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      and all the others that are in the ministry.
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      So these are the thoughts that we've had over the years.
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      The city council, you know, attended a fellowship meeting over the years of the American policy and guidance to
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      So policy is going to make us a little loose.
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      The experience, to take you to that strong relationship with the Council and the policies that we have set for this meeting and this organization, I would be very happy to know that it's not really very sad.
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      So all the other things that we have done in the last few months in the city, and listening to that, and trying to come up as a professional manager.
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      Well, a lot of problems in the city are caused by those numbers.
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      The numbers, I don't know if you forgot it, we don't have a new job or anything, but it's all over the country now.
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      But I think it's a good thing that it's a very good responsibility as a student policy, and it can sound a holiday or extors this outside of the city.
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      I think it's a good thing.
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      I don't know if that's a good thing, but it's a good thing.
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      I said, I'm going to be the director.
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      I'm going to be the director.
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      I'm going to be the director.
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      I'm going to be the director.
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      I'm going to be the director.
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      Oschin, Rivanna, Michael Kochis.
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      Well, I'm sitting here with Wade, and I'm going to introduce myself, I've been a manager of that, and so I'm here on your virtual, I'll tell you in a bit, so I'm going to say, you know, session two that's going to be soon.
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      Basically, you're going to go to the specials who work with you, sit down and go, um, seek interest yourself, um, and you're going to do some of those things.
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      No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
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      and Gretchen.
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      That's something we want to be a potential director of.
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      I know that you're going to be able to see the answer.
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      So we need to allocate the resources as DC's said, and that's officially possible.
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      And in those times, there seems to be a lot of city dwellings, and I think that's an issue all of us send an email to the planning committee.
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      But if you send your email, I'll be able to see you later.
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      That's the end of the original time, but also a significant amount of data that you may not have had at all in relations.
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      If you have a percent of evidence of a particular issue that you bring to this attention,
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      So it's always a matter of whether we can send that information or send that request to a city manager, that way he can decide.
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      Again, we can bring him to the table in conversation, you know, if an execute will be able to do that in line.
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      So whether it's just an answer to some question or a potential satellite.
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      And I believe that was used by all the managers, like yourself, for all the officials that was asked of us.
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      Obviously, we want you to take advantage of the actual experience and expertise of all the different experts that you have.
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      You've got some here, you know, your staff, we want you to be able to use those things on staff as well.
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      Sturzman.
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      I was talking to Mr. Ray, it's the same anger, it's the same feeling, it's the same tone of policy behind this, right?
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      Because we're going through the policy, we're going through the consensus, we're going to look at that, we're going to talk about the priorities, obviously you guys are going to need, you've got some more of a strategic plan back in the fall, I don't think we're going to be doing that in September.
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      So we're going to take a look at the previous, I think it's year eight under similar budget, we're going to have a stream, we're going to start looking at resources and staffing, policy,
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      So it's hopefully going to be soon after them saying there's a policy that I think it's going to make an incensus and turn that into a reality.
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      That's what it's going to seem like even though they're the ones you said a little bit earlier.
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      Well, with general law I think it's going to be likely that there's going to be some kind of a gap between the politics and the restriction.
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      When I say politics, I'm not talking about partisan politics, I'm talking about political politics.
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      Sometimes there's a threat to the council that we're going to supervise in some place.
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      But you put up a set of resources, a real focus on five or six of those at that time.
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      And there's going to be a part of that.
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      I don't want to spoil some of the data here.
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      I don't get nothing.
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      It's just we're going to set some priorities right under that.
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      And so that's what we're going to find out.
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      We're going to fit the gap between politics and policy in the administration.
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      And that's part of the city manager's role as well.
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      And we're going to review it.
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      I'm going to make sure that those things are happening.
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      We have a policy, we've talked about where you are holding an initiative here.
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      Michael, you have a few sources of staff about the issue.
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      For example, you know, when you were with the previous council a couple of years ago, there were several staff issues that were a lot that they had a non-honor safety about all of these, and they're probably in excess of them by the City Council that they were in their staff.
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      You all added staff, you know, to meet with the process, so you can take on the capacity of your workpiece, and I mean, that's successful to see those things all agree with you.
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      So, the group that we started with was Albemarle.
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      in the six seconds, obviously not every post five is ever right.
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      Sometimes one of our hours of policy in the church, that's the whole purpose of the process of dealing with this.
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      You all have the opportunity to relate what you think is best for the community.
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      But also because of the things we've been doing.
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      And that's a policy that we've been dealing with for that council at that time.
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      We've got a little bit of that.
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      And it was sad to know that they don't
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      And I think this is 3-2-3-5-0.
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      This is what we're doing now.
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      So we're being told this is a play.
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      This is a policy measure we're going to talk about.
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      And so we're going to see the purpose of this thing.
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      We're going to go on the side of, you know, telling you what's happening.
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      We're going to be following this, again, a lot less than today.
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      We're going to have to, in terms of safety, and I don't know if we're going to have a lot of controversy here.
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      We're going to talk about, you know, the employer requirements we have in here.
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      We're going to have to see if there's longer jigs.
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      as the chief part of the work of the committee on policy issues.
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      Certainly, I would like to add that we're going to have a very, very, very safe, you know, significant value of this.
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      We're going to have a lot of
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      I think it should really matter.
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      It's a part of our volunteer studies.
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      I think, you know, people are telling me, I'm sure about it.
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      I'm sure about it.
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      I'm sure about it.
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      I'm sure about it.
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      I'm sure about it.
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      Brown,
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      School of Women and Children, John Freedman, City Council, County Provincial, we've seen this slide of civilization.
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      Actually, we've seen this together, and we're going to go to Texas soon.
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      That's what they're going to do also, because we're going to go to Texas soon.
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      So, I'm just going to think about who made this work.
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      So, you know, we're going to put that out for the policy administration.
    • 00:30:30
      Mr. Meryl Charlottes continued with the two of us, Meryl Charlottesville, Rivanna, Michael Kochis, Brian Pinkston, Juandiego Wade
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      and we're ready to announce the good news.
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      On the inside of all of this, we're going to tell you a little bit about how we're going to deal with that.
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      And there's just a few years.
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      That month, there's now no longer a year.
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      It's been speed speed.
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      It's been planned.
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      It's just that most of the notice, it was a one-time stamp.
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      That's what I'm going to put it on.
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      We're going to put that in the calendar of assessments.
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      But overall, we're going to stick to the plan.
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      And, um, you know, for example, I'm so excited about it.
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      I'm going to be talking about our friends at the University of Southern, and my colleagues at the University of Barrett.
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      There was a student who was living down in the mountains.
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      And, uh, we were living in the former part of the island for education.
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      That means a friend's going to go down.
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      So that's one of the things we've been doing at the University of Michigan.
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      So I look forward to working with you on that.
    • 00:31:41
      Thank you so much.
    • 00:31:45
      Citizens of Albemarle have a higher level of service, and we've had something to prevent that.
    • 00:31:52
      So it's not just to Charlottesville, but we're seeing that all over the country now.
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      Technology, AI, other things are impacting what we're going on.
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      We do business.
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      We see manager and the rest seem to be aware of that.
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      I don't think it's necessary to bring them here personally and effectively.
    • 00:32:08
      And again, there's just an awful mix of information about what we're talking about.
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      I mean, there's a lot of extra role that you've started with, kind of, you know, I don't make too much of a problem.
    • 00:32:18
      I approach it when it becomes a tax structure that's about 75 or 80 years old.
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      It's changed since that, I don't know, the person I've seen for the past, I mean, there's a good amount of mobility at the end of the 70s.
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      And we have a lot of tax infrastructure, we're only running some time now, but again, it's a number that's safe.
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      But even in Washington, I mean,
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      and David Rowland, who is one of the people that I want to show you, but he helps me out.
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      He brings taxes, really.
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      And for the streams, there's a lot of people huge from, but that's for your community.
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      And so we're going to continue with that.
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      It's about five weeks from now, but I don't need to do that.
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      I'm just going to take a follow-up session.
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      I think that we have some sad presentations that we're going to be putting on each of them, although it's going to be a reflection to do everything so far in the financial world, which is sad to look at.
    • 00:33:16
      But this is going to be kind of interesting.
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      We're going to be talking about it today.
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      We're going to be talking about it very often, but it's going to be a good one.
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      Thank you very much.
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      and Susan Pimper, who was created around the age of anti-racism, anti-racism, anti-racism
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      All I could fit, I guess, is society and finance.
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      It's probably the last delegations versus, you know, the taxing of those workers that were selling.
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      Some of you said the way was there was a real kind of, you could say it wasn't the 70s.
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      Can you say a little more about that?
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      Yeah, so if you were going to work for them, that's going to be what they'll say.
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      and Nicole Sotage, and that's where I'm thankful to them.
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      I've never been in journalism before, so I've learned a lot from my own taxes at the recession.
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      I've learned a lot from all the particular risks that go to real estate and the desire to make a lot of tax.
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      I've learned a lot from a picture of the state reimbursing of low-gallery, so I've learned things over the last few times.
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      I'm out.
    • SPEAKER_02
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      And I need swag.
    • SPEAKER_03
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      They said they're going to give you two rooms to have your gallery, based on what you've said and what they've said.
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      So one of the challenges, you know, you get a lot of people with lodging taxes, other taxes, you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're out and you're
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      Thank you absolutely.
    • SPEAKER_02
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      I want to share an honest story about your presentation, but just about this in general.
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      I'm going to say strangely, I really don't like the things that are picking us up so that people can hear and see me.
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      Okay, and throughout there.
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      Thanks.
    • SPEAKER_03
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      I just wanted to make sure that every time you walk away from the left, there isn't a woman going in and out.
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      Thank you.
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      Of course.
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      It's big, and of course, captions, too.
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      So a good comment.
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      Awesome.
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      Thanks.
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      Just want to make sure I'm on.
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      Absolutely.
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      Pay attention again.
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      Thank you, sir.
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      Thank you very much.
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      Thank you, Charles.
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      Next is the Realtor Council for Significance.
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      We have the right to participate in these conversations.
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      So, you know, Jay, our city attorney is going to start.
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      And I'm really going to explain that to you, that I came on myself and I'm trying to end some of the agreements now as to asking you questions.
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      These are the things that we make a part of, things that we've seen, things that we've been wondering about, and gives you a chance to just outdo the status of your procedure, because they are your procedures, in regards to how you conduct your business.
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      Okay?
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      Can I ask you a quick question?
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      There's something that most of you can say, well, you know, we're going to really see what you mean by this sort of thing.
    • 00:37:53
      So that's an activity question that we've got all the time to get up to and even look at someone.
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      All right, so Mr. Pinkston, that is an excellent question.
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      Your counsel with the rules and procedures are designed to ensure a smoothly functioning committee, but do not have the force of law.
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      In fact, there is case law that is in an account of all of what's going on by a dozen other states.
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      but because that was the one that served council.
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      So it's here that's an action but it's otherwise the battlefield.
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      It may not be invalidated by an allegation that council has somehow not complied.
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      and with its rules and procedures.
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      Having said that, I think I know of myself, the city manager and the city director thinks that these procedures are important because they ensure the smooth functioning of your meetings and we believe that there is at least
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      that doesn't or so matters that we think are worthy of your consideration.
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      And I think what we'd like to leave this discussion today is, obviously, you can also have an opportunity to receive your existing rules of procedure and suggestions from the clerk.
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      There are two other items that
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      that we want to address that will come later in the presentation.
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      But what I'm supposed to do now is to very quickly run through the suggestions that have been made.
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      If council is receptive to those suggestions then the three of us will want to bring those back to council.
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      for consideration and management of some procedures that are not to be on the cutting room floor, as they said.
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      in the presentation, so I can tell you about what she knows about the procedure.
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      Also, what I'm going to talk about is the immediate disruption issues that manifest themselves on the streets with the council in the form of some
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      and the balance of the concerns there of your ability to injure me in a reasonable manner versus the very elevated person that writes that speakers typically all under addressing counsel.
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      So those supervisions will come a little bit later.
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      But we're going to do some of the things that you may honestly end up leaving housekeeping matters for now if that's all right.
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      I'd like to, and I'm going to be working principally off of the red vandals at your places for the benefit of folks who are working towards looking at home.
    • 00:40:53
      There were some challenges this morning about getting these medals, these diagnosed on the screen.
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      They will be posted to the city website.
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      This is a public meeting.
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      Unlike a lot of material you get from me, none of it is privileged and confidential, so it will be made available to the public.
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      Let me begin with section one, page two.
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      There are, maybe, I think, in the view of your setup, two types of meetings, regular meetings and special meetings.
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      So you can save some words and have some clarity, really, by deleting the references to town hall meetings and work sessions which are subsumed within the category of special meetings and simply using the phrase special meetings.
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      Stanley Romero in section 183, a reference to the Continuous of Beings.
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      We had a great discussion about that at least
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      The health and manager, the mayor and I, when we were deciding what to do about the recent case of a weather.
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      But if the comment there was just whether that morning meets to be expanded, we would suggest to you that it does.
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      And we would go to the extent that you're receptive.
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      to some of these changes to bring you back some language on that way and to have this matter as an item for your consideration to have future meetings, hopefully one that comes very quickly.
    • 00:42:32
      The next item, it was in section, I'm sorry, can you just give me another one?
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      I don't know if you remember.
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      I'm not asking for a conference, but I'm asking for a service.
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      There is something different going on now, but there is something similar to that in the local government.
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      We'll just grab a look.
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      Thank you, Mr. Vice Mayor, for chiming in.
    • 00:43:11
      This is very much attempting to assess Council's wishes on this.
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      This is not a presentation as much as a taking Council's temperature, so we can anticipate what Council might want from us moving forward on our admission of the rules and procedures.
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      It's a very wrong one, but I'm very aware of this.
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      Two years ago, we had the problem of the organizational meeting having to be contemplated because of a snowstorm at a time, I think technically, so there was no mayor and there wasn't a vice mayor.
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      Now, Sylvain McGill, as the continuing vice mayor, three days after her term as vice mayor had ended,
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      and with the city lab manager and so on to a relationship to change it through the meetings related by two days.
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      But I wonder if it would be appropriate to have some of the individuals that exist at the possibility.
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      I think that's an excellent point.
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      I guess we're starting to have a couple of options.
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      One would be to have those two having occupied the position and continue to have those.
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      I think could be very worth a beer and a lice beer and the one with the council would be a beer or a lice beer.
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      We think and so the language that would allow for the city manager who does preside over the meeting prior to the selection of a beer and a lice beer as council
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      Thank you.
    • 00:44:58
      The next item.
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      is at maybe one in three, and this presents social practical challenges and well respected democracy.
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      The suggestion has been to, there are two options.
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      One is to simply strike that section because obviously, Charlottesville listens very closely to the members of the public in making decisions about setting its agenda.
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      There is a less dramatic change
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      which would be the assembly stride of the language at least 10 days prior to the meeting.
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      This says a couple of things.
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      One, it maintains a council's orders and procedure degree and emphasis you place on citizen input while not creating
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      a time deadline which you might not be able to make and also creating a misleading impression that simply by accepts and saying place the same on the agenda that creates and burdens and businesses that really create some expectation that council will do so.
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      Council liars if he gains control of its agenda and you simply cannot.
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      So we definitely lose control of that agenda.
    • 00:46:27
      Just on the face of it, to link the phrase, at least 10 days back to the meeting, is that we're going to be maintaining your emphasis of democracy and encouraging citizen input at the same time.
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      We're going to deadline this ultimately.
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      That's good to see we've got a good one.
    • 00:46:49
      And this is Section B2, the order of business.
    • 00:46:53
      Now the principal change here, with me and by the way, this is much of what we're talking about here versus the very good work of the city or so am I.
    • 00:47:07
      Nessa, Keena Plays to Co-Laminate, instead known to have it.
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      But in reality, they seem to be here and it's similar to community matters before they can set agenda.
    • 00:47:20
      This serves to the public as it would be made with murky fusion of asphyxia.
    • 00:47:28
      Batters, there will still be two public comment sections.
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      As you all know, I've had experience in several localities.
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      I'll just tell you, based on that experience, two public comment sections is a lot of democracy.
    • 00:47:45
      In terms of your
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      your time and your ability to focus on the business before you.
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      You would be very much in the mainstream if you were to adopt this change.
    • 00:48:02
      So the way it was now is we're opening up one of the five formations and then
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      There's a consent agenda and they'll open up to 16 people.
    • 00:48:16
      You're suggesting that that version, we should give it to 16 people that have basically after the population and things like that.
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      One concern that I've had, which is a little more common than just in the last few meetings, is that there have been times when we had issues that we were voting on that were not subject to a public hearing.
    • 00:48:46
      It was not a bad meeting.
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      But there were so many other issues that were highly on the agenda that people wanted to talk about that make effective voting.
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      and the others.
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      No leading them in the position of only being able to comment after we voted, in which we took all of these and towards the end of things, I suggested and sort of on the fly, that we'd be jaded with some of them, so that we'd be able to get everybody in line for a little bit when it comes to my visit.
    • 00:49:46
      How can you deal with something like that?
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      So I'm going to set out a suggestion, and then I'm going to refer to the manager.
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      But one of the ways to do that is to simply identify those matters.
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      When someone signs up, they have to identify the item that they're sitting on.
    • 00:50:11
      For those who sign up on matter that is before you on the agenda, it would be perfectly acceptable and legal if you made this decision to those fellows from today so we can and so that they would be seeing our matters in your procedure.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 00:50:35
      Procedure that we have as a web and drawing for people who signed up.
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      So it really is random who ends up on that first eight.
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      And those could be times when we get more than a number of slots that are allotted for speakers by means given items that are on the agenda.
    • SPEAKER_00
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      The other option would be to make every item a public hearing.
    • SPEAKER_02
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      or have comment for every item and that proves a little unmovable.
    • SPEAKER_03
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      One thing that we should always be conscious of is that the timing of the location of the meeting is important for us to monitor and manage because we're conducting business in the city.
    • 00:51:23
      It doesn't really make a lot of sense to be joined by everyone collected in 90 years.
    • 00:51:26
      And just to add to the city manager's statement, I have 4% of the cities and counties in my legal career.
    • 00:51:34
      Well, there are two advantages, but there's an acidity, which I don't have a doubt in those public hearings.
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      And in county, a lot of public hearings on every single legislative item will flow down.
    • 00:51:46
      That does, you know, to create very lengthy meetings.
    • 00:51:51
      And I think that one of the advantages of this suggestion here
    • 00:51:56
      to make sure that public comment is receiving relevant to agenda items without having to go to a full public hearing on each item.
    • 00:52:04
      So it's a way to receive the public comment while potentially not opening yourself to a lot of their meetings that you're having right now.
    • 00:52:15
      Or if we use that first comment section for items related to the agenda, and then the second
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 00:52:25
      Can we have the ladders to be fine?
    • SPEAKER_00
    • 00:52:27
      It's not on the agenda.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 00:52:28
      I don't know.
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      I don't know.
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      I don't know.
    • 00:52:49
      Well, that's the way we do it.
    • 00:52:52
      You know, 9 30 10 o'clock in the night.
    • 00:52:54
      We're interpreting Sunday last.
    • 00:52:57
      Everybody's coming here.
    • 00:52:59
      You said, you know, right now, if they are able to sign a verdict, if they can potentially get into the first, maybe, maybe 16.
    • 00:53:07
      Just trying to close this up and get a display.
    • 00:53:10
      Maybe they don't understand.
    • 00:53:11
      Yeah.
    • 00:53:18
      What is this?
    • 00:53:19
      What is this?
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 00:53:41
      It's hard to make you think that the way I've been making this movie continues.
    • 00:53:47
      That's where the week was that the first public coming before the contingent of addressing warrants issue.
    • 00:53:55
      I'm a murderer, and I'm so much bigger.
    • 00:53:59
      Everything doesn't happen alive, but it didn't make it.
    • 00:54:03
      It didn't need this.
    • 00:54:05
      I've been with them for sure.
    • 00:54:07
      I have something in place for that a week and a third of a year.
    • 00:54:10
      Well, I've been with them for a few years.
    • 00:54:12
      That's part of the skills.
    • 00:54:15
      I appreciate the name.
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      And I know it should be there.
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      have intentionally set out a process that tries to stream things a little bit on the other hand, I'm so conscious of the fact that as a musician I've been hearing for a couple of minutes comments about your recording in 2017, I've been recording so long, you know, I've been reading, so why hasn't he answered that?
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      had a home hearing on this.
    • 00:54:44
      The answer was that we had a home hearing technically when the climate direction had its public hearing.
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      But I'm not sure the public perceives that as a very satisfactory answer.
    • 00:54:57
      And certainly there were times in the last few months where the council moved it a little bit, and that was not received as a satisfactory answer.
    • 00:55:05
      You know, I'm getting on the other hand, when you talk about those things, you're talking about the idea of the one
    • 00:55:12
      and besides, solely for public comment, public hearing on that.
    • 00:55:16
      That was, you know, because it was, it was an hour ago, I guess, so it was a chance, so we could say, we'll finnish it, but yes, all five councillors are here.
    • 00:55:31
      All five councillors are here to sleep.
    • 00:55:33
      Five councillors are of any intention to make a move after the airman's, this is the time to talk about it.
    • 00:55:40
      And those are some of the things that we want to make clear about in our state, because I want to be able to see some of the things that we want to do.
    • 00:55:51
      Feedback and fun, you know, we've been thinking so long, it's impossible.
    • 00:55:55
      As I said, I feel like we want to see all of us here, and we'll say, value and feedback, and we want to be responsive to people.
    • 00:56:06
      And there's lots of different ways that that happens.
    • 00:56:09
      Um, sometimes we get a little bit of trouble if I believe I, you know, it's from the certain people, but I'll certainly think it's a little kind of, I mean, I don't think it's a little bit of a, it's a lot of things that we've got going on.
    • 00:56:16
      Um, it's kind of, it's a little bit of a, it's a little bit of a, it's a lot of things that we've got going on.
    • 00:56:20
      Um, it's a lot of things that we've got going on.
    • 00:56:21
      Um, it's a lot of things that we've got going on.
    • 00:56:23
      Um, it's a lot of things that we've got going on.
    • 00:56:25
      Um, it's a lot of things that we've got going on.
    • 00:56:27
      Um, it's a lot of things that we've got going on.
    • 00:56:30
      Um, it's a lot of things that we've got going on.
    • 00:56:31
      Um, it's a lot of things that we've got going on.
    • 00:56:33
      Um, it's a lot of things that we've got going on.
    • 00:56:34
      Um, it
    • 00:56:35
      who has a little bit of a share with us.
    • 00:56:38
      We are also going to put out this last time looking forward to giving many of our ultimate good decisions at 10am and 11am.
    • 00:56:47
      It's been possible that our time was known when we were here.
    • 00:56:52
      you know, jobs, you know, paying and everything and so they're just commuting to go to a state with a specific issue.
    • 00:56:59
      I don't think we're going to have to deal with it right now, you know, because it has to be in the first one.
    • 00:57:05
      It only has to be in general, it's people, computers or whatever.
    • 00:57:10
      I mean, maybe we're going to have a case that's going to be confusing, I guess, for kids.
    • 00:57:16
      You could say the first day with slots, you know, be observant for people who want to send us, you know, to the general public.
    • 00:57:22
      This is the second one, so that's going to be by a lot, you know, just an opportunity for us.
    • 00:57:34
      I'm speaking to the public on that.
    • 00:57:35
      I very strongly don't support that.
    • 00:57:37
      Because I feel like some of the most important comments we get are things that are on the agenda.
    • 00:57:42
      And I feel like it's foolproof of their discretion if there was an item that we feel like people haven't waited long enough to just have that be a public hearing at that meeting for that specific item.
    • 00:57:52
      If that was a specific concern for us at the time.
    • 00:57:55
      Can you sort of say a little bit about the hearing of the public hearings?
    • 00:57:59
      It seems like the public hasn't had enough time to weigh on for that specific item, whether we're re-engineering the whole community matters of process.
    • 00:58:06
      Because again, I think some of the most important comments we get every meeting on is that we're on the agenda, because that's what raising things that are on our radar.
    • 00:58:32
      I think that sometimes people have comments on something that they just want to come talk to City Council about whether it's on the agenda or not.
    • 00:58:46
      I want to keep it.
    • 00:58:48
      and Albemarle, Charlottesville, Rivanna, Michael Kochis
    • Juandiego Wade
    • 00:59:17
      that that is the public hearing that, you know, it's the public to me and come out and speak those things.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 00:59:24
      I'm just trying to make some suggestions.
    • 00:59:25
      I'm looking at Michael with the community matters.
    • 00:59:30
      But that's, thank you for having us here.
    • 00:59:34
      It's just that we don't think we should.
    • 00:59:36
      Each and every one of us, you know, stupid, you should just be basically whose sons are the first or whatever kind they have to share.
    • 00:59:46
      Well, it is now.
    • 00:59:47
      Brian Little Simon is how they appear on the list today.
    • 00:59:49
      First of all, we do have a counselor, an officer to sort of on the fly and be able to decide whether to address a chance for general public comment.
    • 01:00:13
      The answer is no question.
    • 01:00:15
      As an officer, you have the authority to delay from what?
    • 01:00:23
      If in your judgment, hearing a matter that's on the agenda, to a precedent, I think you have special issues.
    • 01:00:34
      I also want to say in response to the earlier comment, every single agency item before you is a subject of public care.
    • 01:00:41
      So, uh, and it's well advertised and well attended.
    • 01:00:47
      And so, if you look under a second bite of the eye of the American People's Daily and public comment, so it would be common and unusual in my experience to essentially convert that to a second public hearing model as you sign up, because that could be very labor-intensive.
    • 01:01:02
      What we can do, but this is a good sign, though,
    • 01:01:05
      is prepared to act that amuse public comment and bring us back to y'all the continued discussion.
    • 01:01:11
      But in answer to your question, counselor, so I do believe that the marriage presiding officer would have an authority to to hear to hear matters that related items that were coming before the agenda so that council can receive that comment before our final decision was made.
    • 01:01:31
      middle of the time, so I will ask you, I sort of was around doing jail since I did any of the problems I was doing, because you just sort of did it.
    • 01:01:39
      I did, I never happened to be real quite sure how legal that was.
    • 01:01:43
      You said that was legal, and it actually worked quite well, because if you happen to be a counselor, you won't be a judge, and you were taken out into the town and made your decision as a presiding officer.
    • 01:01:54
      So, yes, that is well with him, because I can all be through all the time you manage, yeah.
    • 01:02:02
      Can I ask you to give us a second?
    • 01:02:04
      There's no limit on how many people can speak in community matters, right?
    • 01:02:11
      Exactly.
    • 01:02:12
      I'm reading that now, mutual like,
    • 01:02:29
      and the bad reports that we get rid of, but is that, is that when other rejections, when they finish the regular agenda items, they can only be required to have like a thing for the public, you know, such a lot of places don't have it at all.
    • 01:02:46
      That would be required to have one go through this common period, go to a calendar, a quarter of my state law.
    • 01:02:56
      and my colleagues in other localities.
    • 01:02:57
      They're surprised when I said, oh, we need to get 20, 30.
    • 01:03:03
      We don't get 60, and then drink two is really a lot of time.
    • 01:03:07
      So anyway, so that's why I'm probably tough.
    • 01:03:10
      But that's probably a little bit more so people would definitely feel less.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:03:14
      I'm sorry, there's a lot of variations discussed in the last couple of minutes.
    • 01:03:18
      I just want to clarify.
    • 01:03:20
      Would there be a scenario where there's any
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 01:03:27
      an agenda, public comment period, then a long agenda.
    • 01:03:31
      Sorry.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:03:36
      A general comment, then we do, this might be what this says, then we vote on a consent agenda, then we do the act.
    • 01:03:44
      Then we do a general community matter, so that's where the powerful people can speak.
    • 01:03:50
      And then we do, so that's limited, and then we do action items and then there's the whatever community matters that I left over.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:03:57
      Is that what this says?
    • 01:03:59
      Right.
    • 01:04:03
      and then all of us in the front, the part that is in the middle and gives a chance at the very outset of the meeting, and they will always be able to comment on some of the research that we've been trying to see about that, and be able to comment on some of it.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:04:25
      Yeah, I don't have the folks who have a powerful concern to have to wait all the way until the end if that's a moment.
    • 01:04:31
      I agree on that.
    • 01:04:32
      But I also see that yes, if you're talking about something that's going to be discussed, it makes more sense to have that at the beginning.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:04:40
      But sadly, I want to remind you, one of the things you will put in common, can I move slightly more consignature, but after all the nations, it goes into the stills, same way there's now, and probably you can speak about anything that's first time, not except the first time, for sure, but it's related, and it's also a chance to get to it, or hit by a lot.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 01:05:03
      If you just want to talk about the fact that it was
    • 01:05:10
      Sixteen Commandments and Clinics and Metapassion.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:05:14
      Thanks to many people who use internal discretion and basic silking.
    • 01:05:23
      We'd like to hear more about this topic.
    • 01:05:25
      They were very important because there's been a lot of passion, many of them, acceptable for infinity.
    • 01:05:31
      I also want to remind you also that you had a tool that you don't use as often as I think about the jurisdictions, which is, you know, motion to send rules.
    • 01:05:43
      That's what was two-thirds valid for all agree on that you can, but I don't suggest any
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 01:06:28
      This is a discussion something we can write back to you before we move on to the future.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:06:33
      And it has been a session of a change, but quite a few.
    • 01:06:38
      So I told you that you should see all the reports, hopefully not into a full table.
    • 01:06:42
      Right now that they are situated right after the consent agenda.
    • 01:06:50
      So it's really weird that my mom had an extra 15, 20 minutes in mind.
    • 01:06:55
      So let me also answer what I hear in this conversation as well as the person responsible for managing the agenda for you, the desire, of course, being the mayor.
    • 01:07:09
      I think what I'm going to say is that I need to add an additional step in determining if a subject is clearly a subject that is likely to generate a lot of interest in speaking on the matter.
    • 01:07:23
      will remind you that you have the option to make that on the agenda before it's published and designated public hearing at that time because that's what you're saying.
    • 01:07:33
      Is that right?
    • 01:07:35
      And that, since to me, that would be most appropriate, because if there's a heavy on doing, it's to allow people an opportunity, and then we tell them as early as possible that they have that opportunity by putting that on your agenda.
    • 01:07:48
      And it doesn't stop you from checking them if you want to add another one, and then we go ahead and repeat.
    • 01:07:53
      I would just, of course, because you don't want to discipline our performers, be disciplined about it as best as we can.
    • 01:07:58
      And, for example, those members are going to want to come and let's publish it on the agenda.
    • 01:08:04
      Do you have to distinguish which public hearings need to be advertised?
    • 01:08:08
      I don't think that's what I'm doing as well.
    • 01:08:10
      We need to try to keep some management of what our responsibilities are on the public at the moment, too.
    • 01:08:17
      Yes, but I see that happening in a few times.
    • 01:08:28
      was a big project, so we felt like we need to get some additional input.
    • 01:08:33
      The planning commission joined the city council.
    • 01:08:35
      What's the name of that?
    • 01:08:37
      We're going to talk about that as a part of the public hearings anyway later, because there's still that question.
    • 01:08:43
      So we're going to have you on public hearings, okay, as in the planning commission.
    • 01:08:47
      That's still a question.
    • 01:08:48
      We're going to move the front of the board to discuss how we're going to have some extra time for extra comment.
    • 01:09:00
      I was told about Payne, it's not a public area, it's a separate audience, so they made interruptions.
    • 01:09:09
      I was just able to turn it into a pre-identified published video from there.
    • 01:09:18
      I will still have the movie to make another edit, because it's your agenda.
    • 01:09:26
      We have sufficient guidance to bring something back to you.
    • 01:09:29
      Our goal is to bring that to you at your second meeting in February.
    • 01:09:32
      We'll type in that on the fifth.
    • 01:09:36
      So I might get to it with a just in case.
    • 01:09:40
      And sometimes something comes up in the speed of the public comment time and maybe they don't speak a minute and a half or two in the middle of the year at the time.
    • 01:09:56
      I'm going to still have to look at this album, it's been two years and it's something that's just come up and it's able to be done by talking to him or her to make a focus.
    • 01:10:07
      We'll suggest it on actions, we're going to have to send those.
    • 01:10:10
      It's unusual to allow people to be held at a time.
    • 01:10:19
      A citizen signs up for themselves to see on something, and you get in and create some awkwardness for a better term, whether they say, well, I'm not going to yield my time to another citizen who had the same way to sign up.
    • 01:10:39
      did it, and Natalie had to come up with some, because we need to know about the time it takes for them to get off the wheelchair and come to your lawyer.
    • 01:10:47
      And society said, that sets this kind of line, right?
    • 01:10:51
      And then we should deal with another citizen to face the call after all of their time.
    • 01:10:57
      Again, it is entirely council's decision, but the recommendation is to stand back practice.
    • 01:11:02
      Right, right.
    • 01:11:03
      This is just a week and talk as a council, and I think if we do,
    • 01:11:09
      Because I think it's a lot of confusion that really can make the need kind of come to you going on that as a sign of what part of the instructions that it has, you put your time.
    • 01:11:23
      But what do you think about the need of the time?
    • 01:11:28
      The reason that that practice developed was because one of the people had access to the sign of that time.
    • 01:11:39
      So, I'm going to make it a little bit of a first few to sign in, but I'm going to have to go another way for you to see what they are from this morning, sign up and be able to serve the people.
    • 01:11:55
      So, I'm going to sign up and be able to sign up and be able to be seen as a way over an evening.
    • 01:12:00
      but we might have difficulty getting access to the sign-up process to be able to number us, have a regular person to do the response.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:12:14
      It actually happened also when there was an in-person sign-up list in council chamber and people would sign up or people would come in early to sign up and then the same thing would happen during those slots.
    • Natalie Oschrin
    • 01:12:27
      I'm not actually that concerned about that.
    • 01:12:31
      If it sticks to the three-minute timeout that they're originally allowed, because I think that ultimately kind of lends some efficiency to the process of getting to hear more people without extending the time or without having someone have to bump and wait for the next meeting.
    • 01:12:45
      You know, if someone says their piece in a minute and they've got two minutes left and it takes someone 20 seconds to get to the rector and then they speak for the rest of it, I don't really mind.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:12:57
      Because as soon as that for a minute, we were going to want to press out for them anyway.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:13:00
      It's a confusion.
    • 01:13:02
      It's a people sometimes use the light, which they don't deliver even from that.
    • 01:13:06
      We watch too much scenes about them.
    • 01:13:07
      I'm doing that in my time.
    • 01:13:09
      People in my time.
    • 01:13:11
      People in my time.
    • 01:13:12
      There's not necessarily, there's certainly a tendency to give it to somebody else.
    • 01:13:18
      But we all kind of fill in for here anyway.
    • 01:13:21
      I was wrong with the time away.
    • 01:13:22
      We don't have a lot of
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:13:26
      We also have this part of the sign-up process that's supposed to be specific about the topic that they're speaking about.
    • 01:13:34
      So if you're younger in that time, you don't know, well, actually some of the speakers already don't necessarily stick to the topic that they signed up for.
    • 01:13:43
      Is that something weird?
    • 01:13:45
      asking for the specifics or how we manage you, whether you speak to the topic.
    • 01:13:49
      I like that.
    • 01:13:51
      Initially, you have to put your, if you're not good, you can also find my idea.
    • 01:13:58
      I'm talking about the same thing.
    • Natalie Oschrin
    • 01:13:59
      That is maybe relevant to the agenda or not.
    • 01:14:03
      Then it gives the Presiding Officer the chance to say, hey, let's restructure this or let's not.
    • 01:14:08
      But if someone changes, a burl ask, I don't think that's just a hazard of the scenario.
    • 01:14:13
      It's not.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:14:15
      is necessarily a preventable or necessarily a bad thing.
    • 01:14:16
      You know what I'm talking about?
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      You know what I'm talking about?
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      You know what I'm talking about?
    • 01:14:43
      You know what I'm
    • 01:14:45
      I don't know.
    • 01:14:46
      I can't remember the issues that were remaining just in the center.
    • 01:14:50
      I don't see that happening.
    • 01:14:52
      And it actually seems to me disrupt the meeting in any significant way.
    • 01:14:57
      I don't know that maybe it's since we're somebody trying to use that to effectively like the center for five minutes.
    • 01:15:08
      So, no, but that was that.
    • 01:15:10
      So, in India, we're fine with looking at you, because there's so much to do about it, and they have two minutes left to mix to the most person.
    • 01:15:20
      So, they have five minutes.
    • 01:15:22
      Is that what you're saying?
    • 01:15:25
      And that's why it's great.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:15:26
      I guess if I have the question, if there were the person A yields person B and person B also has a sign-up slot, then person B gets to speak twice, but that's what's possible.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:15:38
      That's so the end of the order then.
    • 01:15:41
      So it is about managing that process.
    • 01:15:44
      If I start in my three minutes because I'm next on the list and I spoke for a minute and a half and I knew my time to act and who was also on the list, but later, she used the balance of my time, go back to her seat and wait her turn.
    • 01:15:59
      because as you go on and you fall off and you pull this and all of that and you pull it.
    • 01:16:04
      So you're trying to explain to the public that it's not, it's just you know it well.
    • 01:16:09
      Yeah.
    • 01:16:09
      I thought it was me.
    • 01:16:10
      I thought you tried to know that you can do that.
    • 01:16:12
      Hey, take a minute to walk up and the minute I just call him.
    • 01:16:15
      Yeah, the call doesn't stop.
    • 01:16:18
      Unless you were to tell us it has to.
    • 01:16:20
      But right now it does not.
    • 01:16:24
      I try to explain.
    • 01:16:26
      Maybe you're in and yes.
    • 01:16:28
      Thank you, contact.
    • 01:16:30
      I'm going to go through some of these items.
    • 01:16:32
      This was a terrific discussion and very helpful on the end.
    • 01:16:35
      So I'm going to try to get through some of these issues real quickly.
    • 01:16:39
      The next one is session IC7, which is on page seven of the track changes and simply to move the section on there with the presiding officers, but also to cluster the folks who have a long-term meeting and to briefly define who those are.
    • 01:17:05
      and those include the mayor, the city attorney, as parliamentarian, the education staff and the sergeant of arms.
    • 01:17:12
      That's really just a shifting around that would include staff, so it just makes sense from an organizational standpoint.
    • 01:17:20
      I don't think there's anything substantive in that, plus council has specific concerns.
    • 01:17:24
      So the weeks that I've been here, so far, etc.
    • 01:17:28
      Shuffle for Zide.
    • 01:17:29
      So, um, you got to stay with someone else to the document because you said it was up.
    • 01:17:35
      Thank you, Mr. Vice Mayor.
    • 01:17:36
      That's an excellent point.
    • 01:17:37
      This was a general document.
    • 01:17:39
      to expand.
    • 01:17:40
      So we look back to you with with additional tests on marriage presiding officer Clark is settled and Clay Henry Wade, we're just going to pick on probably what we're counting on there for the marriage presiding officer.
    • 01:17:54
      So also we're going to take a little bit of our tools and so not necessarily taking that out.
    • 01:18:02
      We're going to be bringing you back additional tests
    • 01:18:08
      and the rest of the world says about it and so.
    • 01:18:09
      I'm not a person who is sharp as an early 19th century, I believe.
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      I'm not a person who is sharp as an early 19th century, I believe.
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      I'm not a person who is sharp as an early 19th century, I believe.
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      I'm not a person who is sharp as an early 19th century
    • 01:18:35
      that settled our promotion.
    • 01:18:36
      For me, this is one of the ideas that's floating on air.
    • 01:18:39
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      This is at 1-D, 1-A.
    • 01:19:16
      Boucher, Benjamin Dishrouch, and I am civil upon that.
    • 01:19:19
      Thank you.
    • 01:19:20
      So that's on H9, D1, and again, that's 7-4-3-2-1 consistent with
    • 01:19:33
      quite frankly.
    • 01:19:36
      We are learning to assess IZ-1BI concerning the element and how in conceiving time, there are just additional suggestions for every individual to begin by certainly setting their name and place of residence.
    • 01:19:56
      Many citizens have
    • 01:19:57
      Good about that.
    • 01:19:58
      Many citizens are not good about that.
    • 01:20:02
      And of course, I'm using citizens and voters because everyone is ready to address you, whether they are residents of the city or not.
    • 01:20:09
      And the edition suggests that it is considered unmanageable for a group.
    • 01:20:16
      By edition, it's hard for someone who is speaking on behalf of a group.
    • 01:20:21
      The advantage is that that can be a time saver.
    • 01:20:23
      Each member of the group won't feel compelled to take their three minutes.
    • 01:20:28
      Disadvantaged, I had an old job at a technical school.
    • 01:20:32
      It was a great announcement, but it was a whole bunch of advantageous subject to abuse.
    • 01:20:39
      Yeah, I think with the stimulation of how the community service is not involved, I think, I think that if that's the thing that we're going to do, we're going to have to think about what we're going to do.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:20:57
      The entire block of Blankford Avenue.
    • 01:21:02
      It doesn't have to be like women will see all that in some officials.
    • 01:21:06
      Great.
    • 01:21:06
      So that was the situation.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:21:12
      They got the six-page letter ahead of time and there was about eight or ten people who were not identifying themselves as eight people.
    • 01:21:25
      So it was a one-parallel, two-parallel, two-parallel, two-parallel, two-parallel, two-parallel, two-parallel, two-parallel, two-parallel, two-parallel, two-parallel, two-parallel, two-parallel, two-parallel,
    • 01:21:39
      I don't even know the way to say it, I don't even know if I'd be a conspirator if the rest of you all shut up.
    • 01:21:44
      And I think that would be a good thing to talk about.
    • 01:21:46
      I think we'd try to figure out what we need.
    • 01:21:50
      I don't know.
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      I don't even know.
    • 01:21:52
      I believe that would be a good thing to do.
    • 01:21:54
      I don't know.
    • 01:21:56
      That's very odd.
    • 01:21:58
      The next one is just, so I'm sorry, it was just a good thing to do.
    • 01:22:03
      I would just love
    • 01:22:06
      We didn't get anything that council would like to give them or not be.
    • 01:22:20
      But I'm sure you should, for Charlottesville and Michael Payne, who is sitting in the name of Placer residents, and maybe we've already addressed the last item, which y'all already addressed in a minute or so.
    • 01:22:33
      I'm just wondering why don't you report that to take it out and put it up into the seating and just say, Speaker, can they show that I'm here?
    • 01:22:41
      I thought it was there, I thought it was here with the film.
    • 01:22:44
      There was only a lot of three men who were in the line for the units.
    • 01:22:52
      Guy, yes, so, yes, I was thinking also.
    • 01:22:55
      All right, good.
    • 01:22:56
      So much for the talk.
    • 01:22:58
      I'm glad to have you here.
    • 01:23:03
      You want me to do that?
    • 01:23:05
      You want me to do that?
    • 01:23:08
      You want me to do that?
    • 01:23:10
      You want me to do that?
    • 01:23:12
      You want me to do that?
    • 01:23:16
      You want me to do that?
    • 01:23:18
      You want me to do that?
    • 01:23:29
      The next item is, I believe, at the top of page 10, part of which we couldn't get by long.
    • 01:23:35
      This is where the response to public comments after individual complaints has come to the council.
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      Any council or the city manager may respond as they see fit.
    • 01:23:47
      The issue there is there should be a
    • 01:23:52
      What other communities tend to do as a general rule is receive all the content, fantasy, and move on.
    • 01:24:00
      The way that Charlottesville has worked pretty well, which is that it's a particular note, it's a concern to the Baltimore counselors.
    • 01:24:08
      You may return to that item if it's a policy matter, for example, and direct city manager to work into something or comment later.
    • 01:24:17
      and have that discussion.
    • 01:24:20
      They concern here that it's not creating a resumption or a false impression that every public speaker requires a response because that's clearly not the case.
    • 01:24:32
      And certainly at moments just in my short tenure here responding to a citizen would
    • 01:24:40
      just for the public that there's not an expectation of the response, but that you may respond, you know, that you're discretionary.
    • 01:25:00
      So that's a new paragraph.
    • 01:25:03
      I'm sorry?
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 01:25:04
      That paragraph three is a new paragraph at the top of page 10.
    • 01:25:08
      It's there now and we were just re worth that to not create an expectation of counsel responses.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:25:17
      Yeah.
    • 01:25:26
      and Clive Ebert.
    • 01:25:28
      There are times when there is a symbol.
    • 01:25:34
      32nd response that can be given.
    • 01:25:36
      I would aim to be in a situation where we would be given a simple 32nd response, or in this case, up to two minutes at a time.
    • 01:25:44
      On the other hand, I acknowledge there have been times that in the recent past, there have been content into response, and it became so extensive, and it got into an awful tough discussion that the matter was not the agenda.
    • 01:25:58
      And the chance to bring this issue to you is not to prevent that from happening.
    • 01:26:08
      Because where it's appropriate, it's your meeting, you should have the ability to do it.
    • 01:26:13
      And the way I've seen it again just in the six or seven months that I've been here is
    • 01:26:18
      is, you know, Mr. Mayor of Albemarle and respond to it or something similar to them and submit it with you.
    • 01:26:24
      I don't know if you want him to have the ability to interject or comment where it's appropriate.
    • 01:26:30
      So, are you being as pent up as is or we're changing it?
    • 01:26:34
      A little bit, we wouldn't bring the language yet and bring that to you for this session, but I think we have the essential idea here, which is not to create an expectation of response, but not to impact our council's abilities and make a response that they would like, and Mr. Mayor, you're the presiding officer, so you'll, you know, nobody wants to be brought.
    • 01:26:56
      and that's true, you know, you're allowed to try, you know, you're allowed to try, you know, you're allowed to try, you know, you're allowed to try, you know, you're allowed to try, you know, you're allowed to try, you know, you're allowed to try, you know, you're allowed to try, you know, you're allowed to try, you know, you're allowed to try, you know, you're allowed to try, you know, you're allowed to try, you know, you're allowed to try, you know, you're allowed to try, you know, you're allowed to try, you know, you're allowed to try, you know, you're allowed to try, you know, you're allowed to try, you know, you're allowed to try, you know, you're allowed to try, you know, you're allowed to try, you know, you're allowed to try, you know, you're allowed to try, you know, you're allowed to try, you know,
    • 01:27:24
      I'm glad that you have the opportunity to meet what you want to follow up on.
    • 01:27:29
      So use that moment anytime as well.
    • 01:27:32
      I apologize for admitting that.
    • 01:27:34
      It's for the term and it's appropriate.
    • 01:27:49
      We have an exceptional public hearing for the agenda.
    • 01:27:52
      The next change is at page 11.
    • 01:28:06
      Council Agenda Comments, you can see there being a percentage of the comments reordering their place in the agenda.
    • 01:28:16
      That would seem to be a necessary set of medical orders.
    • 01:28:22
      Which one do you want?
    • 01:28:23
      We'll see.
    • 01:28:25
      We'll do the five on page 11 striking the Consent Agenda Comments.
    • 01:28:37
      Let me take a quick look at the recess that she had just acquired by motion council made for the recess during the meeting.
    • 01:28:46
      something that we'll raise here.
    • 01:28:48
      It is traditional in which your stations run a practice through the mailers all setting up the authority as a resigning officer to declare a recess without a motion.
    • 01:29:00
      So what I would suggest to you is that Mr. Mayor at all, you have a power and if you wish to exercise it, but another number of council wants a recess and you have to call one man who were to do so by motion.
    • 01:29:16
      and that, that's something that I would, I don't think we work pretty well.
    • 01:29:21
      All right, we're going to skip out, we're going to get things down to the end here.
    • 01:29:30
      The next one is at age four C, section two C.
    • 01:29:46
      This has to do with adding a little bit of public hearings.
    • 01:29:51
      We follow up on that until we get to the public hearings discussion and we'll come back to that.
    • 01:29:58
      I mean, if we have a section 36 possible expenditures, this is purely a policy issue.
    • 01:30:05
      It is unusual in my experience for council members not to have access to a city credit card or a legitimate expense.
    • 01:30:11
      It's a bit of a severe work, but that's another way of policy decision.
    • 01:30:16
      I don't know if you're interested in it or if you're not interested in it.
    • 01:30:22
      Same name.
    • 01:30:23
      Okay.
    • 01:30:23
      That said, if others might do it for some reason, I don't remember that.
    • 01:30:42
      said perhaps we could have a matter of additional discussion on the issue of credit cards, whether you want to develop a policy on the issue of credit cards.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:30:56
      The issue of credit cards.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:31:09
      strategic issues that are associated with one of the rich words that those of you who have been around have discussed in some light years to the middle of the 20th century.
    • 01:31:21
      And on the news, I was going to say to the government councillors that there were a number of things that happened.
    • 01:31:29
      So for the government, I said,
    • 01:31:43
      It's a discussion about the notion that if I incur any similar expense that I want to reimbursement for, I incur it on my credit card.
    • 01:31:54
      I have the income to the city administration to say this is something that is compensable.
    • 01:32:03
      If I have already spent the money on the city credit card, it seems like it gets reversed.
    • 01:32:15
      something about spending so money on eatery and their food for the first time in which case that's not it, there's somebody who may be able to make that expenditure for me, they're lying to themselves about paying sales tax.
    • 01:32:32
      I do read on, I can see from those backwards either
    • 01:32:39
      and Michael Payne.
    • 01:32:56
      I have a lot of new details about it, especially since I don't have new details about it, and it's said a few years ago.
    • 01:33:03
      I can say that David McKellips, the person who is on my duty counsel, he doesn't have enough, you know, I usually work for him, I can't even read those.
    • 01:33:13
      I've just seen a question about COVID.
    • 01:33:16
      I mean, that kind of thing, you know, we're not going to talk about it with anyone.
    • 01:33:22
      It's not going to be, you know, we have opportunities and things, and things.
    • 01:33:26
      I don't have to see it in a society.
    • 01:33:28
      It's just an example of some other people I can serve, though.
    • 01:33:32
      And so I don't know what I mean to do it.
    • 01:33:35
      I mean, I don't really know when we come to the end of the week, when I'm going to see the COVID.
    • 01:33:41
      I'll offer that.
    • 01:33:42
      It seems to have run out so far during that way.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:33:54
      These rules right now will be revisited with the next council.
    • 01:33:59
      So if this is something we want to discuss just for the five of you who are here now, then we can revisit it at another time.
    • 01:34:07
      But if you want to look at rules for how you all want to handle it,
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:34:13
      Just for the understanding of how it also works is that it was reasonable to expect that a counselor can be issued a credit card with the understanding of how to use that credit card and procedures would dictate how you go about doing that.
    • 01:34:28
      Just as you've identified, yes, I would use it and how the burden shifts.
    • 01:34:33
      We do have a collection opportunity as well, if you use the credit card in an appropriate manner, which occasionally happens because it's a question.
    • 01:34:41
      Um, the one who doesn't come back to you, you know, to the long period today, we will expect yearly and worse for that.
    • 01:34:47
      It's done in staff as well.
    • 01:34:48
      You know, so the collection opportunity exists.
    • 01:34:52
      And it doesn't mean that we have to take away the access to the credit card because as you point out, I'm looking at the idea that does not have access to a card and you don't want that to be what keeps them from doing what they see as the business of service.
    • 01:35:06
      Yeah.
    • 01:35:07
      Yeah.
    • 01:35:12
      It's a pleasure.
    • 01:35:12
      I mean, I've understood a lot of things that you can do, but when you try to make them to receive your items on the 35, they'll be reviewed by someone who is deciding if it's okay or not.
    • 01:35:22
      It's not okay.
    • 01:35:22
      They're coming back to you because they do that with the bus.
    • 01:35:31
      and some other businesses.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:35:44
      We have a department card and I have one that has my name on it and one right there was the requirements for each card to be associated with the name.
    • SPEAKER_00
    • 01:35:54
      We won't even get one just for the department that we use for various things like your meals and
    • 01:36:00
      and other things, but you can just talk to me about it.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:36:03
      There is little information to get one, but we'll talk to finance.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:36:19
      and others.
    • 01:36:20
      In the interest of time, I just want to get to the last two, although Wade and Del will be off on page 18, oversight of council expenditures number two.
    • 01:36:33
      Issues there to discuss, one is whether or not, you know, so we would be comfortable with a quarterly, which is actual expenses reported, as opposed to a monthly, not before or to before on that.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:36:47
      It's a practice sometimes when you're doing that sort of thing.
    • 01:36:53
      I guess from my perspective, the question would be, do we want that final presentation?
    • 01:36:59
      Is that a report that we think would respond with any, what do you want?
    • 01:37:04
      I guess this particular one, that's in the little system report that I've given to Councilor Powell and Councilor Farley.
    • 01:37:13
      And it's true.
    • 01:37:13
      It's true.
    • 01:37:14
      It's true.
    • 01:37:14
      It's true.
    • 01:37:14
      It's true.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:37:15
      It's true.
    • 01:37:15
      It's true.
    • 01:37:15
      It's true.
    • 01:37:16
      It's true.
    • 01:37:16
      It's true.
    • 01:37:17
      It's true.
    • 01:37:17
      It's true.
    • 01:37:24
      Martin & Ford, if you've seen and are confident in the U.S.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 01:37:28
      if you can track it or move it, this is a piece of something that's always not what you're always looking for.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:38:01
      There was a time that there was going to be plenty of people working on the expenses for the fiscal year that would already be incurred, and we would let it over stand on the budget.
    • 01:38:16
      and they didn't seem to be any accountability or anybody.
    • 01:38:20
      So I can't do that.
    • 01:38:23
      And that was one of the reasons why I decided to record this, but it wasn't going to be on the scene of that activity recently.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:38:30
      I mean, one of the top rights travel has been related to organizations where you have membership, but before I don't think that was happening.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:38:40
      All right, very good.
    • 01:38:42
      Okay, definitely.
    • 01:38:44
      I decided I was going to say reflection 3D2, and they didn't put it into your earlier discussion about financial irregularities.
    • 01:38:54
      But now, of course, you should write a complete procedure first to the council.
    • 01:39:00
      It has been suggested that there would be some review of that.
    • 01:39:04
      You have a staff who could be helpful to you in that regard, so that you're not dealing with it first.
    • 01:39:10
      obviously that includes your department chief of staff, maybe for legal matters, city manager as well.
    • 01:39:18
      And so if you would like to take advantage of that as opposed to having to grab that award in the first instance, we are so happy to take that test all in terms of providing information
    • 01:39:40
      So, paragraph two, there are two paragraphs within paragraph two and paragraph two.
    • 01:39:47
      Now, first paragraph just says that anybody that needs answer to the question is having a raising machine, then will be resorted to to counsel as a body for review and response for citizens as never before.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:40:10
      That was my understanding, which is why I brought attention to this, because I don't necessarily know that that's the right way to go about handling it.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:40:22
      And I guess I'm going to chime in here and say that, certainly, if there's any issue of irregularity, then I'm going to work in the chair of the discussion, close meeting, is a little better.
    • 01:40:37
      So I have a list of, I don't think maybe it was just something to the effect of a council, you know, to set numbers, there's no whether the credit card, there was a very expenditure of compliance with this council procedure.
    • 01:40:54
      Um, I would go to the university meeting for you, so the phrase as we find that it should be on the surface of that.
    • 01:41:07
      out of the part of the name, or does that imply being on an agenda, not a part, if you would add in place the notion of sending an email to a counselor saying, hey, what do y'all think about this?
    • 01:41:19
      I'm thinking just wondering then, what would be your response in that first sentence, or the first way around to what that really means?
    • 01:41:30
      It's going to be the final point.
    • 01:41:32
      The House has five names.
    • 01:41:37
      Co-Owner.
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      and any of all the action in the public, meaning necessarily you also have the option to go to Virginia to censure your numbers from a skydive that would be done powerfully.
    • 01:42:02
      And all that in those meetings, Counselor Snook is counseled as a body that likes to take action to remedy the improposate expenditure by one of your colleagues.
    • 01:42:22
      Matt Neumann, St.
    • 01:42:23
      Louis, I assume, I think, you know, I don't know where it was.
    • 01:42:28
      I'm sure we've got a lot of those.
    • 01:42:30
      I'm sure as a volume manager at the moment, I've seen a few, you know, a lot of those, but for investigation, I'm not sure what I mean.
    • 01:42:37
      I mean, it comes to a set, you know, it comes to, as a failure, it's important to take action.
    • 01:42:50
      So I think my question is, we're writing this to the council procedure, but there would be city financial procedure.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:43:19
      where if we had a question, the question would go down to file access to weather.
    • 01:43:25
      Correct.
    • 01:43:27
      And make this one followed.
    • 01:43:28
      They would have to.
    • 01:43:29
      So finance first.
    • 01:43:30
      I would look so.
    • Natalie Oschrin
    • 01:43:31
      Then if it's something that becomes problematic, it goes to a broader, I would think, R-E-M cents.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:43:37
      Okay.
    • 01:43:37
      And now I'm going to move on to finance first in consultation with a attorney's office.
    • 01:43:43
      Number 10, one of the first off in the first two, yeah.
    • 01:43:46
      The first seven, seven of the first, and one of the two.
    • 01:43:50
      What it does for the response, the links, assistance from the finance director of the city of Rivanna.
    • 01:43:55
      I'm looking at the Republic of New York that has an expression there.
    • 01:43:58
      So, I'm looking at a lot of people in the other mind, but I'm not confident that this issue will have any things in the studio.
    • 01:44:08
      There's a language you can skip, please, or that's fine.
    • 01:44:10
      So, what do you think we're going to have to see in a few minutes?
    • 01:44:14
      I know we were saying the question should first be presented to the finance director and city's attorney's office.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:44:27
      I know that's where we were headed.
    • 01:44:29
      It doesn't go to council as a body first.
    • 01:44:32
      And I would think that the city attorney would determine whether to consult the law in a closed meeting.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:44:38
      Correct.
    • 01:44:40
      I'm fine with that.
    • 01:44:40
      I mean, because Helen, we will look at what we're going to know.
    • 01:44:44
      We'll see if there's any news or I don't think we're going to need the best way to prepare my lesson.
    • 01:44:49
      Yeah, let's go to Brian's to tell us first.
    • 01:44:51
      You know, that's first.
    • 01:44:56
      when to see your homework.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 01:45:01
      So it would say if any council or council staff has a question about whether any credit card purchase or other expenditure complies with this council procedure, a question will first be presented to the finance director and city's attorney's office and then be brought to council for further discussion.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 01:45:17
      Yes, beautiful.
    • 01:45:18
      Thank you.
    • 01:45:23
      and that includes just like the plan to see a session and exhibit one in which we'll send the lawyer to invite us the failure to use some of your meetings after the end of the day or the public convergence.
    • 01:45:37
      It was possible that it was amended in this little session and they get revived.
    • 01:45:42
      Yes, and there is some movement on some FOIA bills that are sort of this issue and Jay said that we'll talk about later in the meeting.
    • 01:45:53
      So, thank you very much.
    • 01:45:55
      Thank you very much.
    • 01:45:55
      Thank you very much.
    • 01:46:21
      I'm the secretary of the Civil Service.
    • 01:46:23
      I'm the general secretary.
    • 01:59:52
      Then here at the Council of Procedures, it's not necessarily a Council of Procedures, but it's an association that I wanted to review and to encourage to the boards and commissions and how you might point to the boards and commissions and what the relationship is with those various appointees and for representing your interest over time.
    • 02:00:17
      It has been a tough, good conversation amongst the board, amongst the council that, you know, it's just done, you know, left to their own devices.
    • 02:00:28
      That has been problematic at times.
    • 02:00:30
      I think it is something that we've talked about, we've talked about a little bit a year ago, and at that time, we have a relationship with those that
    • 02:00:40
      Some management for the relationship, I think it was 20 years from those in commissions should be taken on as a response for the city manager's office.
    • 02:00:49
      I said, okay, I'll go to the city manager at the time.
    • 02:00:54
      I'll have for a while to go, but I think it was actually very simple, and it's not necessarily else for city officials.
    • 02:01:02
      I am thankfully able to work with the commission.
    • 02:01:07
      We haven't had an expectation of responsibility since I've been wrong, and the decision that I've made in that regard, so this is an ongoing to each of you, is that I will be tasking the mobility city manager for administration of this responsibility.
    • 02:01:22
      His online function, what he began service, will be to maintain a connection to all of your appointees for those various boards and commissions over the course of the year.
    • 02:01:32
      It was highly opportunity to determine what would be held and not be of concern, bringing that information back to me and thereby me bringing that information to you.
    • 02:01:42
      If there are concerns then those we've brought to you in the form of here's a report out and we are about to make a decision as to how we want to address the matter.
    • 02:01:50
      The steps that have come up that have been of concern is where affinities have voted on titles that have financial impacts, that people may not even be aware of those.
    • 02:02:02
      I think it's important for us to make sure that we're happy.
    • 02:02:05
      You need to be aware of anything.
    • 02:02:07
      You need to be able to also express to the appointees what this council position will be on a matter.
    • 02:02:14
      In the number of voting that they're taking at times, you cannot necessarily finalize the impact to you because you still can make decisions later.
    • 02:02:22
      I think you'll be more likely to want to ensure that we are
    • 02:02:26
      We have the information and we are collecting information and we are synthesizing that information today.
    • 02:02:32
      All right, and if you were able to choose to then change our appointees, you would have the information to base that decision.
    • 02:02:38
      So he's looking to get his work.
    • 02:02:41
      This will be part of his orientation.
    • 02:02:43
      We take on responsibility.
    • 02:02:44
      We have done it before, so we're going to figure it out as we go.
    • 02:02:48
      But ideally, one of his assignments would be to convene all the various appointees and conversation and help to
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      said a ton of interaction and communication.
    • 02:02:59
      So, any questions on that?
    • 02:03:01
      I have two thoughts.
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      One is that I learned that I did this suggestion all the years ago and was basically told I don't have staff in the US.
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      I am very much like to have every rural condition
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      and information on the website about, you know, the last meeting a lot, you know, even sometimes, you know, sometimes when I closed a little bit of numbers, they left it on.
    • 02:03:36
      But I remember when I came on the council back in 2020, there were some groups in New Orleans, there were some New Orleans members too.
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      even wrote on the website of the last activity was in 2014.
    • 02:03:49
      I think we've kind of cleaned all of those things, but one of my concerns now as a counselor is I have no idea what some of the new words are actually doing in terms of financial impacts or also have policy impacts.
    • 02:04:07
      The jail ward is one where everyone has been in a certain position that
    • 02:04:17
      and the general board.
    • 02:04:44
      I want to share a consensus among ourselves as council in terms of the boards and commissions we sit on
    • 02:05:14
      Is there anything that would be useful to the councilors?
    • 02:05:17
      Like, for them, the ones I have would be useful to have a suffrage of actions that, like, wants them to come to the city council meeting at the beginning of the meeting.
    • 02:05:26
      I'm probably not able to feel it, because I feel like, like, who would be responsible?
    • 02:05:30
      I would say that I intend to perform a recommendation to you on that.
    • 02:05:36
      I just have a few variations on what can be done in regard not only to take up any more time in the meeting, but to just kind of formalize what type of mechanism I think we can figure that out with you.
    • 02:05:58
      Yeah, I think that Lloyd was going to show how to do everything himself for different committees and bring up things that a lot of times it's not anything to, you know,
    • Juandiego Wade
    • 02:06:12
      It's not an amazing issue, but when things come to that, you know, you want to, you know, maybe throw it on or the adventure tells us where we go to get some time to update.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 02:06:21
      Some help, like, would be good.
    • 02:06:24
      Sure.
    • 02:06:24
      That goes into possibly the important sessions that you may want to have or the conversations that you may want to have.
    • 02:06:33
      I think this is a way
    • 02:06:42
      Now, if there is something recently that I said that I didn't know, so I dropped it off because I wanted to show you how I wish I had gotten to know more clearly to people that I wasn't getting that much since I was a child.
    • 02:06:59
      And that's what we do at Charlottesville, Rivanna, Michael Kochis
    • 02:07:19
      I don't know what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking, what you're thinking,
    • 02:07:50
      I was just about at the announcement section of the meeting where some of those just senior leaders that you attended or that you're not talking, you might want to come through again, so I'm going to talk to you a little bit about what she knows, come to come and join her, something like that.
    • 02:08:09
      I wanted to talk to you about that.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 02:08:10
      I'm going to ask you a question about some of those.
    • 02:08:15
      I did not know that.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 02:08:17
      I think it would also be helpful to have some of the favorites on this week's calendar.
    • 02:08:36
      I don't know if that's supposed to be the version of it, but I don't know if those are the ones that are not seen in the videos.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 02:08:42
      But since there's two kinds of it in the album, and some of the others, so I wonder if you guys have something to tell us.
    • 02:08:49
      That was out of cover, so we're going to make a two-in-a-time program.
    • 02:08:54
      I have questions about that, but that's just not them.
    • 02:08:57
      There are even groups where I've worked on them, so that is the kind of thing that I'm thinking about.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 02:09:01
      So I'm like, oh, we think about doing a couple of things with them.
    • 02:09:05
      So I don't know if there's some section on the part where the public comes in, but it's just first and then we've got some commissions and we'll stay in the second, some crowd and then we'll just go ahead and say a little bit about it.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 02:09:16
      But it's just helpful to have all of that in one place.
    • 02:09:19
      So let me say damage or a little bit of wrapping.
    • 02:09:24
      We've got a lot of wounds as well, so we'll get the jails on.
    • 02:09:39
      I see two of the drafts seem to be related to it.
    • 02:09:41
      We're willing to thank you.
    • 02:09:42
      We'll be able to thank some of these things.
    • 02:09:44
      And I'll also share with you a few thoughts.
    • 02:09:47
      Would you tolerate it if I told you that there are a number of various births, such as child spaces and the avenues that will come back to you as well?
    • 02:09:56
      What is the responsibility of women in rehabilitation where you have your life and your literature?
    • 02:10:08
      and since we've done spending a time with you, we'll start again.
    • 02:10:11
      So, the last for me, I'd like to turn to Natalie.
    • 02:10:13
      No, which one would you like?
    • 02:10:15
      I'd like to say that we have a thing for you.
    • 02:10:18
      That's how we're going to do it.
    • 02:10:19
      I'm going to go to Albemarle to do it.
    • 02:10:20
      I'm going to go to Charlottesville to do it.
    • 02:10:22
      I'm going to go to New York to do it.
    • 02:10:23
      I'm going to go to New York to do it.
    • 02:10:25
      I'm going to go to New York to do it.
    • 02:10:26
      I'm going to New York to do it.
    • 02:10:28
      I'm going to New York to do it.
    • 02:10:28
      I'm going to New York to do it.
    • 02:10:29
      I'm going to New York to do it.
    • 02:10:31
      I'm going to New York to do it.
    • 02:10:32
      I'm going to New York to do it.
    • 02:10:33
      I'm going to New York to do it.
    • 02:10:34
      I'm going to New York to do it.
    • 02:10:36
      I'm going to New York to do it.
    • 02:10:37
      I'm going to New York to do it
    • 02:10:39
      and some have been shifting to kind of oversight of the 20th and 25th, so we haven't even told you what else you wanted done in this space.
    • 02:10:49
      So we're going to clear out this relief in 19th and 20th century.
    • 02:10:53
      Second time, I am, I'm going to say six times.
    • 02:11:00
      I want to make
    • 02:11:18
      College buildings.
    • 02:11:21
      It's a chance for us to bring experts into the island of the yarn.
    • 02:11:25
      It was such a matter of experts that we found staff.
    • 02:11:28
      It was a chance to play with them.
    • 02:11:30
      It was an intimate pursuit.
    • 02:11:36
      It was warm.
    • 02:11:37
      I think there were two colleagues that I would like to bring back into this room for the next two months.
    • 02:11:44
      And a lot of you said there was some time to touch on this topic.
    • 02:11:47
      because they're built out of these, built in the question that it's not yet to work, but in every such placement that you're more than interested in, spend some time on every session.
    • 02:11:58
      I'm going to finish your account and we'll now look for civil change and work session schedule in the meeting.
    • 02:12:04
      I'm looking to not be able to decide what you're going to tell me, what else you'd like to hear.
    • 02:12:09
      We've got some standard things to act and be able to work in.
    • 02:12:16
      and Brian Pinkston.
    • 02:12:39
      and there are other topics that do come up, so I'm going to explain that in this time of the meeting.
    • 02:12:45
      Are they not ready for issues that you'd like to prioritize in the regular work session?
    • 02:12:49
      I can be critical of that, so I think we can tell you in that regular conversation in the Institute will tell you the special work session at the end of that delay, in this room, on our chairman's shoes.
    • 02:13:00
      And next time, I think we can go on to the special session, we can talk about the regular organization.
    • 02:13:09
      are significant.
    • 02:13:10
      I've been staying all the rest of the week.
    • 02:13:12
      There's a lot of self-sufficiency, number one thing that I want to make sure that I understand.
    • 02:13:19
      I'm saying this because I know it's because they keep showing up and giving back, so I'm putting it out to the side.
    • 02:13:25
      I want to say to you, still being dramatic, I think they're too broad, they're one of the things that certainly is so
    • 02:13:34
      Tate-Schuloff, The Affiliate, as in Stralogy.
    • 02:13:37
      Just because I think there's a lot of discussion counseling to how we're going to revitalize, how we're going to be flexible to the budget.
    • 02:13:43
      Because we've killed the revenues in the technology that are falling on us.
    • 02:13:45
      So, the second, I think we've got one story down there, so it's very serious.
    • 02:13:50
      So we had, I didn't even hear those things.
    • 02:14:02
      to that.
    • 02:14:03
      This kind of transit in general, like you get a full solution from the trainers when you figure out what all of the needs
    • 02:14:27
      kind of non-mechanical transiting options and plans for it.
    • 02:14:33
      I was the test for the library to meet your minds to see if I could do it in the company.
    • 02:14:39
      There's a wide range of opportunities to look at our organization, transformation channels, and there's 40,000 that's actually, right now, I'm looking at this as an organization.
    • 02:14:49
      I would actually look at it politically, but I would be like, I'll give it a try.
    • 02:14:54
      I don't know why.
    • 02:14:55
      who serves council right now, along council, and that was passed.
    • 02:14:59
      So I think it was sort of to give a total power to Wade and to provide an opportunity to get to that.
    • 02:15:09
      And I would like to add, they include their word, the session, and the power of the people.
    • 02:15:16
      But looking at the times, there's a lot of
    • 02:15:30
      It's not about the theorem concerning the implementation of the program.
    • 02:15:34
      It's about the general interest between the electrician and the electrician, so they've got a lot of indigene, but I don't know why anybody would buy it.
    • 02:15:45
      I don't know why anybody would buy it.
    • 02:15:46
      I mean, those are some of the problems.
    • 02:15:48
      And I don't know if any of them are in the process of discussing the practicalities of the program.
    • 02:15:57
      I have an effective working group that we're leveling to right here.
    • 02:16:00
      We set up a group of 10, but we're not going to be something that is something that we're going to be able to make.
    • 02:16:06
      But what happens is just on the way in, you know, it's fascinating that we're going to be able to get into something that we've never seen before.
    • 02:16:15
      So that was just a hot learning issue, because you want to make sure that we can get a bit into it.
    • 02:16:20
      And is there a one-session topic that we're interested in that we want to make sure that we can get to make a problem?
    • 02:16:26
      Even though I'm going to have to go ahead and put that here, this is another thing to say.
    • 02:16:34
      But for any analysis of the issues with how we're going to deal with the rents, the steps of the landlords, Charlottesville is a moderate plan, this is probably not going to be a good one session, because we're hoping to be able to gain post-zoned mortgage adoption or limitations.
    • 02:16:54
      He's been talking about
    • 02:16:59
      Yeah, and, um, I'd say generally, we've never done a lot of, you know, we haven't, you know, given since over the years, we've had a lot of different, uh, some of the cheats of the website, right?
    • 02:17:13
      We've had a lot of, you know, we've had lots of, you know, like students.
    • 02:17:27
      Thank you very much.
    • 02:17:50
      In the recessional time, I came up with the development of this facility, and I'm sure you've heard of this convention before, but even if it's just in the short kind of the distribution of the land, the land, the community, the kind of field, the land, the problems, you know, and there was just a lot of, you know, I think a lot of those, there was just a lot of, you know, a lot of changes, definitely a lot of the important research.
    • 02:18:19
      and I just feel so successful.
    • 02:18:21
      And I say to you, I'm not there to say, I'm not there to say, I'm not there to say, I'm not there to say, I'm not there to say, I'm not there to say, I'm not there to say, I'm not there to say, I'm not there to say, I'm not there to say, I'm not there to say, I'm not there to say, I'm not there to say, I'm not there to say, I'm not there to say, I'm not there to say, I'm not there to say, I'm not there to say, I'm not there to say, I'm not there to say, I'm not there to say, I'm not there to say, I'm not there to say, I'm not there to say, I'm not there to say, I'm not there to say, I'm not there to say, I'm not there to say, I'm not there to say, I'm not there to say, I
    • 02:18:52
      so that at the end of the year, we're going to be working right on that entire zone.
    • 02:18:54
      We're going to send the chair away, so we're going to go where we were on, as I identified by our 1,000.
    • 02:18:57
      And we're going to make sure that we can get it off the ground with one of the years out of need.
    • 02:19:00
      So we're going to be putting them going into those details.
    • 02:19:02
      So if you take a look at the ground site, do the same.
    • 02:19:03
      If you take a look at the ground site, do the same.
    • 02:19:06
      If you take a look at the ground site, do the same.
    • 02:19:07
      If you take a look at the ground site, do the same.
    • 02:19:09
      If you take a look at the ground site, do the same.
    • 02:19:11
      If you take a look at the ground site, do the same.
    • 02:19:13
      If you take a look at the ground site, do the same.
    • 02:19:14
      If you take a look at the ground site, do the same.
    • 02:19:16
      If you take a look at the ground site, do the same.
    • 02:19:17
      If you take a look at the ground site,
    • 02:19:20
      This may be a little discussion.
    • 02:19:22
      I will get the information.
    • 02:19:23
      I think I'm having the public word now is there are plenty of people out there.
    • 02:19:28
      There are plenty of people out there.
    • 02:19:31
      There are plenty of people out there.
    • 02:19:33
      There are plenty of people out there.
    • 02:19:35
      There are plenty of people out there.
    • 02:19:48
      to get a little bit of work in, to get a little bit of work in, to get a little bit of work in, to get a little bit of work in, to get a little bit of work in.
    • 02:20:12
      Yes, it's been a really long time since I was born.
    • 02:20:15
      I think I've lived here for a few months.
    • 02:20:18
      So I was just running a castle and I was fishing here in this hotel.
    • 02:20:22
      Especially after I was 17 years old, I was still a little bit of a New Yorker in the city, so I mean, I thought I was a New Yorker.
    • 02:20:29
      And when I changed my name, I remember it was just the same.
    • 02:20:31
      I used to have a New Yorker, so a lot of my family used to live in New York.
    • 02:20:38
      When I first saw him, it was interesting to know that with that sort of work, his own achievements will yield to him.
    • 02:20:44
      And combined with it through the field and the coach, and the grinders, it doesn't really make a difference.
    • 02:20:52
      You know, staff, they don't really have a base in the field for us.
    • 02:20:56
      So it's kind of just the writing of pieces, also, that we've been trying to work on.
    • 02:20:59
      Now the same works, and for many of us, it's just the work of staff, so we have to pay them down.
    • 02:21:05
      I think that's one of the takeaways that we've had is just making sure that we can keep the flesh, so we'll probably pose a couple of different questions to them.
    • 02:21:17
      There's a little group under this past year, and we'll be still looking at your highlights, and we'll be looking at your information to you, and probably by doing that one.
    • 02:21:28
      And obviously, we're moving on to the FOIA.
    • 02:21:31
      You said public hearing consultants are in public hearings.
    • 02:21:34
      That's right.
    • 02:21:34
      Yeah, that's the public hearing through what I'm talking about.
    • 02:21:41
      All right.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 02:21:42
      And then the other thing I said, I'm several of those who have recently had such real discussions.
    • 02:21:49
      Thanks to anyone who's been generalizing concerns of the city for public hearings.
    • 02:21:53
      So I'm just going to say that I just look out for you.
    • 02:22:00
      I'm assessing.
    • 02:22:01
      There was a particular procedure, shouldn't you follow?
    • 02:22:06
      And that would tie us down to the rules and procedures that they would ever use this.
    • 02:22:09
      I want to thank you, Stadards, for the Council that has started to develop this spotlight, but unusual.
    • 02:22:17
      I want to join the public hearings with the planning commission for future land use matters.
    • 02:22:25
      I don't know much about this.
    • 02:22:29
      There is certainly some efficiency in the council because it has its public hearing at the same time that the planning commission knows.
    • 02:22:34
      The effect of that arguably is you have a public hearing and the planning commission and the answers are all very similar, which is very huge.
    • 02:22:40
      The council let it be just in the law, and it was in the law, and it was in the law, and it was in the law, and it was in the law, and it was in the law, and it was in the law, and it was in the law, and it was in the law, and it was in the law, and it was in the law, and it was in the law, and it was in the law, and it was in the law, and it was in the law, and it was in the law, and it was in the law, and it was in the law, and it was in the law, and it was in the law, and it was in the law, and it was in the law, and it was in the law, and it was in the law, and
    • 02:23:03
      So we just want to raise the issue of the right scientists and both of them would like to serve them.
    • 02:23:18
      and Natalie Oschrin.
    • 02:23:20
      I'm here, I will be in the face of it, but it was someday good, but we don't have everything that happens, so I will be the manager of what's available in our network, so can I take a motion?
    • 02:23:35
      I don't know if you should.
    • 02:23:41
      and the rest of the population.
    • 02:24:07
      on the television from Pinterest.
    • 02:24:09
      Do you know that comment that you opted to rationalize that we're hearing South Plain introduction, that we have public hearing?
    • 02:24:16
      It's odd to say you don't attend that evening, right?
    • 02:24:19
      That's the only reason I thought we'd do different questions.
    • 02:24:22
      So there's one very, very counterintuitive question.
    • 02:24:26
      I wanted to choose to go that route, but I was wondering how I would interpret that and not ask questions.
    • 02:24:35
      So, it's on
    • 02:24:52
      I am curious to know about and try to think about
    • 02:25:17
      and I would say that I would say that I would say that I would say that I would say that I
    • 02:25:45
      and Michael Payne.
    • 02:25:46
      This is kind of a video call, but it's going to be good for the center of time if people are commenting at the time.
    • 02:25:54
      So on the issue is kind of a particularly big thing for now, 10 to 16 people have been commenting on that particular issue.
    • 02:26:02
      I mean, the fact that all of those people
    • 02:26:05
      Well, I think it's a problem that there is not a way to create a neighborhood out here, and that it would create some failure, just because no matter what you know or speak to, it would be a problem without the issue.
    • 02:26:17
      But that's not a problem here.
    • 02:26:18
      I can tell you that you're in a lot of trouble with the suburbs and the behavior of the color of the U.S.
    • 02:26:24
      as they are speaking to us in community efforts.
    • 02:26:27
      But at times, when I want to say, a surge would be the definition of it.
    • 02:26:31
      I don't understand what you're doing or what you're hearing.
    • 02:26:44
      I'm fine.
    • 02:26:44
      I'm fine.
    • 02:26:44
      I'm fine.
    • 02:27:04
      I'm talking about ignoring this challenge after the next session.
    • 02:27:07
      But since I've looked at many of the others and I've done many of the other things that I've said, I've had enough of the planning conditions to be able to do this.
    • 02:27:16
      I think you can share the planning conditions that you've had to go around and say.
    • 02:27:22
      with a very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very,
    • 02:27:53
      as mayor from the chair of the Office of the United States.
    • 02:27:58
      There was some concern about that rather than there was a planning for the council in those two years.
    • 02:28:04
      So that's a good thing to do.
    • 02:28:07
      That would be sad or a planning commission.
    • 02:28:11
      So are we certainly judging things or are we causing planning commissioners to shake the
    • 02:28:22
      and I think Alson is eventually better on the table.
    • 02:28:25
      And so I would suggest if you're with us today, if you're with Alson, just be asked a few questions.
    • 02:28:33
      But I don't know if you're on to say anything as well.
    • 02:28:41
      I think this is something that we're talking about.
    • 02:28:43
      I'm also thrilled to be interested in the individual, and I guess it's a particular one that we're hearing.
    • 02:28:46
      It goes to the council, so to tell them that, let me do something about it.
    • 02:28:48
      I think there's a question.
    • 02:28:49
      I thought there was something to say to the developer, but I'm not sure.
    • 02:28:51
      I thought it was something to say to the developer, but I'm not sure.
    • 02:28:53
      I thought it was something to say to the developer, but I'm not sure.
    • 02:28:54
      I thought it was something to say to the developer, but I'm not sure.
    • 02:28:57
      I thought it was something to say to the developer, but I'm not sure.
    • 02:28:59
      I thought it was something to say to the developer, but I'm not sure.
    • 02:29:01
      I thought it was something to say to the developer, but I'm not sure.
    • 02:29:04
      I thought it was something to say to the developer, but I'm not sure.
    • 02:29:06
      I thought it was something to say to the developer, but I'm not sure.
    • 02:29:07
      I thought it was something to say to the developer
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      Sides of the development of the Dutch room, I'm sure it's one of the things that we've thought to do.
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      It's on which side of the table that I'm supposed to go over this.
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      So those are the procedure, those are the classic.
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      There's something down here on the set, the classic, sort of, I was here in Caroline.
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      She was an exciting officer.
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      She had these situations, and she had those favorites, those opiaries.
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      also seen the other pair of mine, so they were also working on the University of St.
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      D. Fairman, University of St.
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      D. Jass, and I worked just a few minutes in fashion, so that's how I got to the library.
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      We looked at the book for so many years, and I thought it was super useful for the discussion.
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      and so on.
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      And that's, you know, also an important mention of our students, that is something that Charlottesville may not take up.
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      I was just just saying that by the end of the term, you can take the example at this, because you can obviously try to count down on what you think.
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      And she had to do it with the verb and try to, what I said, to die in the end of the term.
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      And there was a change, sort of, that was at the time of the end of the term.
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      And we knew that Charlottesville would be out after so many years.
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      And it's going round and round.
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      We have a lot of stuff to be doing, so I think it's time to get started.
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      We're running out of time.
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      We're running out of time.
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      We have a question for you.
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      It is a great honor to be part of the one-year-old team.
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      We said it was very much fun.
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      It was a great honor to be part of the one-year-old team.
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      We said it was very much fun.
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      It was a great honor to be part of the one-year-old team.
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      We said it was very much fun.
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      It was a great honor to be part of the one-year-old team.
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      We said it was very much fun.
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      It was a great honor to be part of the one-year-old team.
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      We said it was very much fun.
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      It was a great honor to be part of the one-year-old team.
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      We said it was very much fun.
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      It was a great honor to be part of the one-year-old team.
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      We said it was very much fun.
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      It was a great honor to be part of the one-year-old team.
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      We said it was very much fun.
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      It was a great honor to be part of the one-year-old team.
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      We said it was very much fun
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      Well, I mean, so, I mean, that's a policy question, so I would say, we would say, I have several dollars here in the block, you're having a seven p.m.
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      in your checks, having three dollars here in the CFO in the process in terms of time, you're going to have to come back to check on your decision to have it all sorted out.
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      and I have a question for you.
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      I have a question for you.
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      if this is any condition of college or anything like that, because you're in a situation into the crowd on the set of the session, so there's any condition of college or anything that's similar to me.
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      And very, you know, you tend to be full of the fact that they, I mean, said that a lack of education for the public, what the more significant effect it gives, you know, to the other collectors, a little bit of shading, perhaps a little bit
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      which is how it goes.
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      So how they feel about something and how they get that salary.
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      So what is the performance of their brand and what's sent to you and how do you decide that something was sent to you and how do you decide that something was sent to you.
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      I would discuss that.
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      I'm at the Ryan Center, so I'm very useful to address the question as to say, and with a lot of these discussions, if we can do this together, we will do it together.
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      If we can do this together, we will do it together.
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      If we can do this together, we will do it together.
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      If we can do this together, we will do it together.
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      If we can do this together, we will do it together.
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      If we can do this together, we will do it together.
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      If we can do this together, we will do it together.
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      If we can do this together, we will do it together.
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      If we can do this together, we will do it together.
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      If we can do this together, we will do it together.
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      If we can do this together, we will do it together.
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      If we can do this together, we will do it together.
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      If we can do this together, we will do it together.
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      If we can do this together, we will do it together.
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      If we can do this together, we will
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      The first one of us is this is where we are siloed, so flesh firm.
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      This is an important part of the song.
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      I'm going to tell you a little bit about the show.
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      I'm having us just read a little bit later.
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      and William Sewells-Halladay.
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      and Brian Greenstone going to college.
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      I was not excited about the official tape of the word just inquire the class to make sure I was up to date but
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      So well, we're going to just ask for direction, but I don't think we're going to be able to do this.
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      We're going to be able to do this.
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      We're going to be able to do this.
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      We're going to be able to do this.
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      We're going to be able to do this.
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      We're going to be able to do this.
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      We're going to be able to do this.
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      We're going to be able to do this.
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      We're going to be able to do this.
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      We're going to be able to do this.
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      We're going to be able to do this.
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      We're going to be able to
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      Now, roughly, I do not have any sense of the word, but I would like to make sure that I have the exception of the word, the exception of the word, the exception of the word.
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      and Michael Oschrin.
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      Blanchard, but you have a lot of use of yourselves about it, but until you, you really need to be able to do that without going away, so that you're going to be able to train for us as you can speak.
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      I think what you do in terms of, I think, is conditioning times.
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      This is a huge issue.
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      I just want to say, Mr. Ray, I think it's probably not going to be as much of a financial situation.
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      I mean, we've done about what we've done to the side, right?
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      But I would also say that there is a little bit of a spectrum here.
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      We're not going to be sure.
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      We're going to have some non-stall face exhibition here.
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      and I think that we have to do that.
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      I think we have to do that.
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      I think we have to do that.
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      Separating this group of women is far more difficult than it's supposed to be.
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      We know that there are many women without women.
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      Separating this group of women is far more difficult than it's supposed to be.
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      We know that there are so many women that's ready for all of them.
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      We know that there are so many women that's ready for all of them.
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      I think for both human and city council, I think it makes more sense as I'm containing this, but I didn't feel a comfort for the situation where we can ask questions and the planning commission would be able to see if we can use the value to all parties in the area.
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      I don't know if they would be able to explain the situation.
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      I guess I'm going to state a little bit about having a public hearing with the city council and the right effort serves as the opportunity to be able to have
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      and there is a C-name that we're going to be telling you about.
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      Everything on the set for the joint public hearing and what we're going to be talking about.
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      I'm going to be doing that as an addition to the staff where we are.
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      I guess I'm going to put it off the both sides.
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      If I fall into this state, I can't tell you anything about exactly what should be done.
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      So, you know, I was here, I went to New York, I went to New York, I went to New York, I went to New York, I went to New York, I went to New York, I went to New York, I went to New York, I went to New York, I went to New York,
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      and James Boyle against the goodness of that room.
    • SPEAKER_02
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      I'm just trying to figure out how to, in particular, direct human business feels like something that would make more sense with experience.
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      I've always said it online, but it's a great information.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 02:40:53
      I'm so sorry, I didn't feel kind of like that.
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      While I'm here, I was also going to go show the information that I was going to be.
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      So I'm just trying to make sure that I'm bouncing up a moment.
    • SPEAKER_03
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      I would certainly say that we have a separate partnership with the attending and the main mission which is to serve the very needs of the community.
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      This is kind of what I'm talking about.
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      And it would be better for us to have a lot of discussion.
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      Instead, I feel like we'll be able to find and decide what we're going to do.
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      We'll start saying something different, including issues like your own.
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      You get to shoot.
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      was with their same type of things that everybody was supposed to be a part of.
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      The fighting is what we've tried to do in that very long time.
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      The reality is that that's actually helpful for giving it a little cinch line and for you to get a sense of what it looks like.
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      So we want to begin with, you know, and see if there are any opportunities that we might want to succeed.
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      We have a lot of opportunities that we might want to be able to expand on this.
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      They're right to be able to deal with the size of the board of the five or enough of a math ability based on their position.
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      We will probably be able to do this in a little while, but we'll talk a little bit about that later.
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      I'm going to come back to the front of the floor, so I speak to you a little bit about it.
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      I'm going to come back to the front of the floor, so I speak to you a little bit about it.
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      I'm going to come back to the front of the floor, so I speak to you a little bit about it.
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      I'm going to come back to the front of the floor, so I speak to you a little bit about it.
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      I'm going to come back to the front of the floor, so I speak to you a little bit about it.
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      I'm going to come back to the front of the floor, so I speak to you a little bit about it.
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      I'm going to come back to the front of the floor, so I speak to you a little bit about it.
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      I'm going to
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      Thanks for talking with me.
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      I'm Michael Oschrin.
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      I'm from Charlottesville, Rivanna, Charlottesville, Rivanna, Michael Kochis, Brian Pinkston
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      I think that just to close this out, it sounds like without a disability, we're going to have our separate.
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      I think that's something that we need to work with just so it's very good to continue to work with them.
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      I'm concerned because I don't know what they're doing.
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      I think it's actually one of the favorite of us.
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      I would accept the credit card, but also I appreciate it's a very good commission.
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      How did you get in there?
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      It's a small size, a little bit bigger, a little bit smaller.
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      I think it came out very, very different.
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      It was separate when we came in.
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      I don't know how to do it with this edition.
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      I don't know what it is.
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      I don't know what it is.
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      I don't know how to do it with this edition.
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      I don't know how to do it with this edition.
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      I don't know how to do it with this edition.
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      I don't know how to do it with this edition.
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      I don't know how to do it with this edition.
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      I don't know how to do it with this edition.
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      I don't know how to do it with this edition.
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      I don't know how to do it with this edition.
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      I don't know how to do it with this edition.
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      I don't know how to do it with this edition.
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      I don't know how to do it with this edition.
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      I don't know how to do it with this edition.
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      I don't know how to do it with this edition
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      whatever it is on the scene that we're going to be talking about ourselves as a single person.
    • 02:44:55
      Do you have the fact that we've anticipated so much of the possibility that we're going to be talking about ourselves?
    • 02:45:03
      I don't know if you've said anything about that.
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      I think that's the argument that's necessarily what you have.
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      to move on to the next topic.
    • 02:45:14
      Go ahead.
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      I'm going to turn it over to the chair.
    • SPEAKER_03
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      I'm going to move on to the next topic.
    • 02:45:33
      Yeah, I guess.
    • 02:46:05
      I'm going to show you some of the changes that we've had over the years.
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      while on those rules of procedure.
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      This has happened earlier.
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      We should have the child with respect to circumstances.
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      And it's a shocking, a shocking, a strong thing to your needs.
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      This is a last example.
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      You're going to do a dollar a cent coming to the lab.
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      Everyone has the person in the right with the procedure.
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      Counting the counts on getting an excessive degree of speed and the degrees are equally
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      and James Haynes.
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      And as that said, there is a point at which the minister began to assert that he had certainly under existing findings
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      and Gracie Hall.
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      She made me for a council meeting with Jacks, where there was an action that I would choose to submit those from the meetings as examples of that last year.
    • 02:47:21
      Okay, Jay, we're at the end of the meeting.
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      Jay, there was to your personal procedure that we would be able to strengthen the council's handling and making sure that there was a disruption, obstruction, why is it so serious that we should act?
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      Florence, St.
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      Andrews, McDonnell-Files, St.
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      George, the site of the virus, St.
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      Selvester, Sanctuary, the important ones.
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      It's not violence, but it should be.
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      It's a site violence.
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      It's changing the behavior of these violence from the right way to the corner.
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      So that's just sectional.
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      They were right on the revolution.
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      I didn't think it was helpful.
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      Finally, they'll be used so they can be revoked differently.
    • 02:48:09
      Well, Jerry, the whole area, he was there.
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      He was also there to sort of just
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      Souther, that's for the end.
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      There's almost certainly vulgarities to be unlearned in this area for less than a number of reasons.
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      Personal attacks against House of State staff from members of the public.
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      and Anthony Doris, who are sort of moving off of OVAM, which is better than OVAM, which is $7, the extension of the $10, which Charlottesville, Rivanna, and Charlottesville, OVAM, because for the very narrow exception, it's sort of very early on in the course of OVAM, which is better than OVAM, which can be helped with the sort of simple behavior of OVAM, which is to do with the language of OVAM, which is the language of OVAM,
    • 02:49:09
      Smith, Mr. Steele, Mr. Steele.
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      and John Lennon.
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      I feel I would say that a simple justice, I would like to actually talk a little bit with you, but I don't when I see it, I just want to just move it back, okay?
    • 02:49:48
      I was thinking about it, but I wouldn't want to know if it's a state or a state, but I don't know if it's a state, but I wouldn't want to know if it's a state, but I wouldn't want to know if it's a state, but I wouldn't want to know if it's a state, but I wouldn't want to know if it's a state, but I wouldn't want to know if it's a state, but I wouldn't want to know if it's a state, but I wouldn't want to know if it's a state, but I wouldn't want to know if it's a state, but I wouldn't want to know if it's a state, but I wouldn't want to know if it's a state, but I wouldn't want to know if it's a state, but I wouldn't want to
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 02:50:06
      Are these the judgments we will be able to do or do in the election number at flag?
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      I think it looks to me as a chance.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 02:50:22
      The second thing that was used right now, say, with the commentary on the group of Sunday sessions, Council President Raul said it would be comfortable to be saying about the
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      Osamble.
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      I just want to thank Mr. Mayer.
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      He's been working with them for five, twenty-eight hours, and he allowed us to say that to the college.
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      We usually have a lot of raisings in this context, because I think you're going to be able to solve this.
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      So if you were going to be that level of running around, then there would be just a bit of awful.
    • SPEAKER_06
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      So that would be an incident.
    • 02:51:12
      So that would be a needle-reacting to us trying to pass them off, instead of a game-raising up flag saying we don't know how to put this person on.
    • SPEAKER_03
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      Okay.
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      Now, there would be certain sort of situations, particularly destruction, where I think all of us would have to figure out what we're going to do with this incident.
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      You can say you're guilty.
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      You've got your name, right?
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      If somebody was to destroy a name, you have to do it.
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      If somebody is to actively show it not to the party, but not to the day they are.
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      I'm going to suggest that we get some help from the Department of Education.
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      I'm going to suggest that we get some help from the Department
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      and the rest of the community.
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      to separate the two of them.
    • SPEAKER_06
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      I can't say anything about this.
    • SPEAKER_05
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      Oschrin.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 02:58:08
      Charlottesville.
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      Oschin, Michael Oschin, Brian Pinkston,
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      So we make up
    • 02:59:11
      She was a part of it.
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      She said it would be good to hear about her expertise in self-sufficiency and higher education.
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      And I think that's kind of what we're missing before today.
    • 02:59:19
      I don't know about those things.
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      She's a part of it.
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      She's a part of it.
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      Shad, everyone talks about this, and it's very interesting to talk about that.
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      It's very interesting to talk about this, and it's very interesting to talk about this, and it's very interesting to talk about this, and it's very interesting to talk about this, and it's very interesting to talk about this, and it's very interesting to talk
    • 02:59:54
      I'm sick of it.
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      I'm sick of it.
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      and Michael Payne.
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      and Jean-Marie LeBlanc, of course.
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      I've been sitting there for six months and I've been working with them for a long time.
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      It's been six months.
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      I've been working with them for six months.
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      I've been working with them for six months.
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      I've been working with them for six months.
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      I've been working with them for six months.
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      I've been working with them for six months.
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      I've been working with them for six months.
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      Tinkins, and you, and you, and you, and you
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      Oschrin and Albemarle.
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      I'm going to go down to the top of the list.
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      Oschrin, I love you.
    • SPEAKER_03
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      Bouchardelle, Michael Bouchardelle
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      and Michael Payne.
    • SPEAKER_06
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      He has a great success.
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      Thank you very much.
    • SPEAKER_05
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      I think that's a good idea.
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      I think that's a good idea.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 03:04:52
      So now I would say, Charlottesville, Rivanna, Charlottesville,
    • 03:05:35
      Oscher, I think it's Brian.
    • SPEAKER_03
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      and Anthony Oschrin.
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      Oschrin.
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      Thank you, Mr. Mayor.
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      I would like to tell you three things about Albemarle.
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      And also, I would like to tell you that this consultation will make the portfolio compliant in the next few years.
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      I would like to tell you a little bit about Charlottesville.
    • 03:06:53
      Next slide, please.
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      Next slide, please.
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      because of a strange amount, just so we could do it.
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      Also, because of our knowledge policy goals that the FOIA also represents.
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      Also, the next slide.
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      Oh, so FOIA.
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      Joe, it's a pretty big issue.
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      The moment of the public and the fall of the pandemic, she developed a new construction and carpeting situation.
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      It ensures that the citizens in the general aid processes and the graduates most of you, at least, are emphasized by citizens, the government, and the activities
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      and so on.
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      Madelaine is a Q&A team member for the Federation of the United Nations of Charlottesville, and I'm going to check out the city treasury, so that's going to be a certainly good time.
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      We're going to start, we're going to bring it out to the groups of the college assistant city people who are working there, who are studying that fellowship.
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      I'll come back again, and I'll do a little bit of a change in the sense that we're going to have some sort of solution that's going to be available.
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      And also, it's going to be the same or the same kind of justice that we're serving.
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      also a long, great upset.
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      It was just a little bit of time, but it was really great.
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      Thank you so much.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 03:09:19
      Thank you so much.
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      Thank you so much.
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      Thank you so much.
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      We're going to have a discussion tonight.
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      We're going to have a discussion tonight.
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      We're going to have a discussion tonight.
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      We're going to have a discussion tonight.
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      We're going to have a discussion tonight.
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      So we think of our mandate for rent and such all of the graduates to be able to do that.
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      So we've done the things that we're trying to do.
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      It's a clean call.
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      Unfortunately, we're not saying we should be able to do that.
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      Cochran, we have those messages.
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      Very well.
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      Anything.
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      It's kind of a sound, you know, I'm going to offer something which is a very rough definition of the Spanish, Italian, or any kind of stuff.
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      There's something going on in possession of the city.
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      We're going to go to the officer of the new room.
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      We're going to be creating an international public savings.
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      Right, so we're
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      Kuhn, Kuhn, Charlottesville, Rivanna, Kuhn, Kuhn, Kuhn, Kuhn
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      And that's true of Brian Oschrin, who was in my department at the time.
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      I'm in a private cell.
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      If you're a second-hand, so you're not supposed to share that seat with anyone who lives in the U.S., it doesn't matter if that's your only duty for the rest of the community, that's so unprotected.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 03:11:18
      I'm sorry, Brian Oschrin.
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      I'm sorry about this.
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      Do not worry about it.
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      Thank you again so much for being here.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 03:11:36
      What was the time that you said you were going to celebrate?
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      Because it's been a really long time.
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      Yes, I'm not going to celebrate.
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      I'm going to celebrate.
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      I'm going to celebrate.
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      I'm going to celebrate.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 03:11:45
      I'm going to celebrate.
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      I'm going to celebrate.
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    • 03:11:48
      I'm going to celebrate.
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      I'm going to celebrate.
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      I'm going to celebrate.
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      I'm going to celebrate.
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      I'm going to celebrate.
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      I'm going to celebrate.
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      I'm going to celebrate.
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      I'm going to celebrate.
    • 03:12:05
      So it's great.
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      It was just, you know, right after the policy was triggered, it was such an underwriter who used to work at the interpreters in kind of Florida, Northwest, is there, is there,
    • SPEAKER_03
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      Just as I'm reading this, I have a brilliant picture of you telling me.
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      You said, I don't think it was important to get this down to that point.
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      And I want to make sure to be able to tell you, for the most part, that you and I say, you are able to tell it right.
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      So that's the point of the order, if you were open for that.
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      I'm just going to say that it's so great to be able to tell you about it.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 03:12:56
      You know, I have learned a lot about Rivanna, how Rivanna would be sitting in one section of the other, and she would be sitting in the other section of the other section of the other section of the other section of the other section of the other section of the other section of the other section of the other section of the other section of the other section of the other section of the other
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      And so this is Charlottesville, your girl
    • SPEAKER_03
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      Dan Reddick records are one thing.
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      We're trying to help them.
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      So there needs to be something else.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 03:13:49
      So, again, I just have a comment to add to that, so I'm going to go ahead and do the rest of the guys.
    • 03:13:55
      I'm just going to go ahead and talk about what does this mean for us, you can show you what it means.
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      But if you feel like it's something even with a friend or something, it's a little bit of a development, and that's the culture that goes into the field.
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      and Brian Pinkston.
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      Thank you.
    • SPEAKER_03
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      Bessie.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 03:14:50
      So what kind of language would you like to talk about?
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      Some kind of universal language, the universal language that has a similar meaning, or how to mention there are 18 different languages, and that's why when you're doing English, somewhere in the future you'll say, okay, I'm kind of using my language as a guide, I'm going to use my language as a guide, and I'm going to highlight that language for you.
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      That's simply the way that it works.
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      So, I'm going to read one, I'm going to write one, I'm going to read one, I'm going to write one, I'm going to write one, I'm going to write one, I'm going to write one, I'm going to write one, I'm going to write one, I'm going to
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      not with you.
    • 03:15:38
      So I've been in the city for five days, so it's fine, right?
    • 03:15:42
      So sometimes the customer class, you look around and they're like, what's going on?
    • 03:15:46
      So it's a fun, incredible, smooth outside, sort of.
    • 03:15:56
      So we know five innings, and that if it was five innings, we'd have to do a five, right?
    • 03:15:59
      We have to go for an officer, but if it's five innings, we have to do a five innings.
    • 03:16:02
      If it's five innings, we have to do a five, right?
    • 03:16:04
      We have to go for an officer, but if it's five innings, we have to go for an officer, but if it's five innings, we have to go for an officer, but if it's five innings, we have to go for an officer, but if it's five innings, we have to go for an officer, but if it's five innings, we have to go for an officer, but if it's five innings, we have to go for an officer, but if it's five innings, we have to go for an officer, but if it's five innings, we have to go for an officer, but if it's five innings, we have to go for an officer, but if it's five
    • 03:16:18
      Clinton, who was with me during the monarchy, right?
    • 03:16:19
      So then she showed up in a different kind of system, and said, it's a short film, but honestly, this is how it really happened, right?
    • 03:16:24
      We're all here, right?
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      We're on the list, we're on the list, we're on the list, we're on the list, we're on the list, we're on the list, we're on the list, we're on the list, we're on the list, we're on the list, we're on the list, we're on the list, we're on the list, we're on the list, we're on the list, we're on the list, we're on the list, we're on the list, we're on the list, we're on the list, we're on the list, we're on the list, we're on the list, we're on the list, we're on the list, we're on the list, we're on the list, we're on the list, we're on
    • 03:16:47
      I have a question for you.
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      And then, I guess, I mean, I don't think we need to sort of do something about human rights.
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      I mean, because I was just going to share a little bit about that.
    • 03:17:03
      And I'm just going to say a little bit about that.
    • SPEAKER_03
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      And our leaders in the House are incredibly sure, you know, right now, for example, you know, so much, you know, training clients and buyers and why that.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 03:17:14
      Now, there are a lot of people that are wanting to set up this assumption in terms of trying to get to the class that I'm going to see with you.
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      I want you to identify and make sure it's there to give you a few other lines.
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      For now, thank you.
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      You're welcome.
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      Thank you.
    • 03:17:27
      You're welcome.
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      Thank you.
    • 03:17:28
      You're welcome.
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      Thank you.
    • 03:17:40
      So just the very amazing part of what we're going to do is we're going to do a test and it's going to be a very good challenge that you might have if you ever get someone asked for it.
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      It's a little bit comfortable, but these are just the basic process you can actually do.
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      These are just the basic process you can actually do.
    • SPEAKER_03
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      And if you think about Albemarle, she says it's going to take a lot of time.
    • SPEAKER_06
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      She can talk to a professor and say, OK, we're working on it, but we're going to be fine.
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      Because we're going to have to learn a little bit more as soon as we can.
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      And, you know, it's going to take a lot of time, you know, to be able to handle it beyond time.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 03:18:22
      So, I miss her, because I think she was so open to me.
    • 03:18:30
      Sinclair Sinclair Sinclair Sinclair Sinclair Sinclair
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      Oschrin.
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      I just want to say thank you.
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      and I was having fun.
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      So two years ago, I found out that if you have $17,200 in the nation, this is a high five.
    • 03:19:18
      If you have a high five, it means that you want to be informed.
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      A year and a half ago, we did a few call-and-runs, like I did a few months ago, so then it's something I get now.
    • 03:19:29
      Now, it's up to you, because right now, I came with a notice from 30, which is that I would be able to search a little bit, but if it comes up,
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 03:20:44
      We're going to do it for the time being so far.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 03:20:47
      We're going to do it for the time being so far.
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      We're going to do it for time being so far.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 03:21:07
      7,000 million dollars, and if we had nothing to do with it, it was the same.
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      Personally, we thought that the support would often be done by the council, but honestly, it was all decided.
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      I always thought we needed to be in response to this.
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      But if 7,000 million dollars is not in proportion with the price, it's not in proportion.
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      It's not in proportion.
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      It's not in proportion.
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      It's not in proportion.
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      It's not in proportion.
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      It's not in proportion.
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      It's not in proportion.
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      It's not in proportion.
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      the practice that you're giving us at this time of the year.
    • 03:21:45
      So, looking out to 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70 or 70
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      John Dewey, I would like to tell you about how we're doing this theory of the system.
    • SPEAKER_06
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      So, I want to say, I want to say, I want to say, I want to say, I want to say, I want to say
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 03:22:46
      So, what do you mean?
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      with the City Council meeting.
    • 03:23:19
      So how did you register that between the excitement and the impregnance?
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      It's not something that I didn't realize.
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      I don't need to be invited.
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      So just to be sure that it doesn't come in right away.
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      It doesn't have a pressure for me at all.
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      But that's not what it's going to be about.
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      It's a real thing.
    • 03:23:41
      And I can't take it wrong.
    • 03:23:49
      Michael Oscher sent him a photo of me traveling, and he would say, the way you are.
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      And I just said, do you like to have a company with you?
    • 03:23:55
      So I just said, the way you are, there's somebody who you also can look at for the day, and maybe I'll have you mention something about the violations and whether they're not signed or not.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 03:24:04
      So I'm going to deliver just like a motion to later on, so I know where we're going to put this, because we're going to see what's going to happen, which there's a jar in that pad.
    • 03:24:14
      So if you're going to talk, start to talk about the candidates after that.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 03:24:21
      So we're going to talk a little bit about the content of this thread of five principles in response to the U.S.
    • 03:24:29
      And I said, ladies and gentlemen, I want to see it and just see if there's some sort of information or some kind of information.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 03:24:36
      So the one thing we really have
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      We share that information.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 03:25:34
      So we are probably in the future.
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      But the real time, I don't think there might be a whole range of questions.
    • 03:25:43
      I mean, there is evidence that there is a trotting.
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      What's that?
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      It's like, you know, it's not a real issue.
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      It's not.
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      It's not a real intention.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 03:25:54
      The trotting will be to be looked at.
    • 03:25:57
      So it's not.
    • 03:26:01
      Yes.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 03:26:19
      So in terms of exemptions, some of the more common things are trying to client privilege.
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      We know that we're also expected to be in attendance, so anything we need to pass or ongoing investigation, we can withhold personnel information, although we're talking about the bigger scenario and quite a bit of records for those shows.
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      which is the compulsion for the removal of the clouds, those are also exempt.
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      They are missing in if you want to remove those.
    • 03:26:53
      Those are kind of some of the more common exemptions.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 03:26:57
      I would like a definition of this, even though just for press and austerity or whatever it learns.
    • 03:27:05
      How do we define a relationship called G?
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 03:27:09
      So the writing and the training might have some kind of connection with some of our projects to keep the writing.
    • 03:27:15
      It really has to be
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 03:27:37
      real estate, so the privilege of seeking and providing the advice, right?
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 03:27:41
      You can't just see one of us in the attorney's office and think, oh, they're not privileged, right?
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 03:27:48
      And people might possibly be having very little instances with us where I'm telling you, show not to forward.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 03:27:56
      And unless you get a promotion, please do not forward any advice.
    • 03:28:00
      So if we can put up a voice in terms of a university income,
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 03:28:04
      We're trying to be disciplined at the top that it's provisional confidentiality and client association.
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      Even if we don't, please don't worry about the ending outside of the city.
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      Because once you do that, we don't know what's the protection and document itself, and anything that we're going to lose to that topic will then not potentially prompt being in the confidentiality part.
    • 03:28:31
      and then the personnel, the personnel exemption.
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      This used to be a road by category that was always used to the core of the NEHR, I don't know.
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      But as we talked about on that test slide, it's really been significantly narrowed by the origins of the road recently.
    • 03:28:56
      So now, if there are
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      or all kinds of things.
    • SPEAKER_02
    • 03:29:04
      And we've been thinking about which are files that we want to introduce, I think those being probably our personnel.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 03:29:15
      Some of it is actually going to come out into the public, unless it will be
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      And I'm going to move into a little privacy.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 03:29:24
      So let's talk about your personal knowledge and your personal life, your mind, your career, or something like that.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 03:29:32
      Yes, we can start with, like, if it's really straightforward, which is the way it was formed in your job of a public role, then that eventually you have to come home.
    • 03:29:44
      And there's a lot of things that are kind of embarrassing because there was a very negative value of shame and there's a lot of news about it.
    • 03:29:55
      And the court said, well, this is exactly the kind of thing that the public needs to know.
    • 03:30:01
      It's so transgender, you know, dysfunction going on in the city.
    • 03:30:05
      I don't know how many of you are talking about me.
    • 03:30:06
      They have their own team with that.
    • SPEAKER_03
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      and then we missed just a couple of other comedy submissions there.
    • SPEAKER_06
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      For example, Time Facts, when they're being, that's one of them where they'll be able to back in, mostly that information can be protective.
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      And then there will be lots of enforcement, as I said earlier, a simple instance.
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      Missing the deadline or some other murder with murder, death in the violation of any person in the file suit.
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      together.
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      I'm going to tell you a story.
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      We're going to tell you a story.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 03:30:51
      We're going to tell you a story.
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      We're going to tell you a story.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 03:31:13
      and again, there are a kind of teams that can be assessed against individuals or the city itself.
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      And it goes up with a sense of co-offence.
    • SPEAKER_03
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      And also, we've had a third board that talks about most of them destroying a record so you can get fined $100 for in-shock in it.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 03:31:36
      And again, with this, we thought you were trying to let people out of the public and trying to get on with it.
    • 03:31:45
      So we thought as far as that is going, when we went through that quickly, you might have more questions later, but I don't know.
    • 03:31:52
      So we have five additional things that are going to be interesting.
    • 03:31:56
      We only have four options.
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      We're designing the color of our foods, the language that we're going to present.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 03:32:04
      We're not going to have the exact word in your time.
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      I should end with saying there.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 03:32:13
      If you do not have to create a record, then it does not exist, right?
    • 03:32:17
      So some of you have been requested for certain data or something, like, we've had that somewhere, a long procedure, a long year, and we don't have to create a record that doesn't exist.
    • 03:32:33
      If you don't have a request, just be sure to go to TouchBase.org.
    • 03:32:38
      Officer Lenin felt right by not to recall the victims.
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      Um, the exemptions are now inside and you are on the sole level.
    • 03:32:48
      But you have to lock also.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 03:32:51
      So, this is the presentation that we're going to give in five months of organization in place.
    • 03:32:59
      So, I learned a lot about various leadership.
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      at Community CTALE and Pollen S.M.I.
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      with this meeting materials most year in public institutions.
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      They carry out a close meeting and met with a specific meeting.
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      No exceptions for that rule.
    • 03:33:22
      This is something I really think that is a great privilege.
    • 03:33:28
      Verse number five, the ability of bodies in the state's city council to move into planning commissions.
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      and you can read your site, you can read your energy, you can read it on your phone, try it on your phone.
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      I'm going to read the functions of the Albemarle, so I'm going to read what's in the editions, all of the lives, and any other organization pages that are all related or are specifically specific about other funds.
    • 03:33:51
      So, for example, the TJEDC is obviously under some of the planning history commissioners of Albemarle, because they receive a vast majority of their funds.
    • 03:34:04
      I'm going to start with a comment.
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      It's not me.
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      Gatling and Plain.
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      So, I remember that Albemarle was in the department of the Department of Discussion of the Transaction of Power and Business.
    • 03:34:30
      And the Gatling was a couple of years in range with the idea of translating power into business.
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      There is some of the business, some of the business.
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      and others that are moving forward to the same council.
    • 03:34:41
      We're in the central campaign for discussions of politics or not on this discussion of issues that council does not have any control over or not, whether there's an easy solution that is significant issue there in the campaign, but it's not that the council can can act on a significant one.
    • 03:35:11
      We already covered this slide.
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      This is a little few minutes in 2020, the protests were carried out in Charlottesville, in the county of Albemarle, Charlottesville, is death.
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      There are multiple victims that happened and I still will assess the riot and how it was handled.
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      The riot of the counties that were working on it was attended.
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      The other three members were not involved in the protests.
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      It's happening to assess the riot and the police response.
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      Chairman of the Court of Supervisors Survey, and some of the other members present, which will stay in the discussions afterwards, saying that the citizens shall see the agency by the end of the month, saying that they will evaluate the power of the community provisions of the union.
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      And they argued that we should have that power on matters.
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      Not crazy about success, but the answer was yes.
    • 03:36:07
      That was a public meeting, gloss versus wheeler.
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      A case from just last year, five or eight more members of the tent with the violent movement.
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      The group of three was violent.
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      Topics were certainly matters of the business in the right-line moment.
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      It was an ever-incorporation of women and students who would be distributed.
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      Now, two times out of a gloss.
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      First of all, this decides a lot of ourselves, both local government and real community, to the point where we have abandoned the government to try and get the legislative solutions that we have to try to basically legislate what we fix.
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      the opening in the space.
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      And we're hopeful that that will happen.
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      Secondly, although the springboard continues to roll against the public bodies of everyone, in particular the public bodies of everyone on the TV, that's the reaching of the last three days in the states that she adjusts her
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      So that usually suggests that we're getting to a problem where the Supreme Court may be willing to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to,
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      and you can remember for us, I think it was a sort of a decision and it says that it illustrates how very important it is for us to reach here.
    • 03:37:43
      And my name will be part of that most of this topic that will appear on the agenda topic raised by somebody else no words.
    • 03:37:51
      So
    • 03:37:53
      You want to say, I don't know if I've been following you all right, but because on Indian Street, it's for a lot of people.
    • 03:37:58
      It doesn't work if I'm so ignorant.
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      I don't want to see the process.
    • 03:38:02
      It's all over the county.
    • 03:38:04
      You can just set it to another way.
    • 03:38:06
      City Council in the city has a body policy and policy to determine the body of a county, all county businesses, derivatives, and second of that.
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      in the business, the council business.
    • 03:38:19
      So the religion of the lost is, it was far-reaching.
    • 03:38:23
      One of the images faced in the general sandwich is something that we will continue to observe.
    • 03:38:32
      I just love this sign because I'm so proud of my colleague.
    • 03:38:35
      It's rare to see it.
    • 03:38:36
      It's one of the promised justices of the Supreme Justice Russell, who is my old boss.
    • 03:38:42
      I would make a video of him when I actually got him in my collection.
    • 03:38:46
      This is actually a handbook of local government annual dimes.
    • 03:38:49
      So I thought we were able to make some money.
    • 03:38:52
      So I thought it was just, yeah.
    • 03:38:54
      I didn't know that.
    • 03:38:55
      Thank you.
    • 03:38:55
      No, it's an annual dimes.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 03:38:56
      Exactly.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 03:39:02
      J. Y. T. Sessio.
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      Thank you.
    • 03:39:04
      Thank you.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 03:39:09
      and I have the privilege to sign some of your work.
    • 03:39:14
      I want to have a little bit of space.
    • 03:39:18
      All right.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 03:39:19
      That's matter of the service.
    • 03:39:20
      Notice the gen materials and minutes.
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      That is at least two dozen states about that.
    • 03:39:24
      I see some of the emergencies, but I see that this is practical.
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      None of the services.
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      The gen materials cannot be secreted from the public.
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      They must be available.
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      and then I'll see you all at the same time.
    • 03:39:37
      When y'all go, I'll guess.
    • 03:39:40
      Minutes must be taken in the failure to take minutes.
    • 03:39:42
      In any meeting, there's a level elevation from where the city can be seen, there's council can be seen, and science can be applied.
    • 03:39:50
      Well, I think we have a fantastic clerk of the council, the chief of staff, the insurers have had no evidence.
    • 03:39:59
      Those meetings by personal favor and
    • 03:40:02
      Your general purpose is such as the protection of privacy or some of the various exceptions, which we'll talk about in a moment.
    • 03:40:10
      Now, we're going to take this level up now.
    • 03:40:13
      The problem is very careful about this, and I don't fear the violation at all, because you always say the most.
    • 03:40:21
      You always ask, say the motion that contains the necessary components, the subject kind of
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      and I have both the exception.
    • 03:40:31
      We're going to do a nice emotion which contains the context of that last meeting in the citation and then specifically, specifically it is to address the subject matter and that is directly from the Supreme Court case where at least you adjust this right before a next court
    • 03:40:51
      Fowler, which Cossie, who's a showman, named us, had a rivalry with him, because they were the safeguards of their needs.
    • 03:40:57
      So we try to be very careful about that.
    • 03:40:59
      This is an example of that self-adapt when you don't fire or fill it up, when you don't fire it up.
    • 03:41:08
      I am the father of three foreign ministers in the entire U.S.
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      government.
    • 03:41:12
      But it was a pretty moving situation.
    • 03:41:14
      And it included an imposition of civil penalty.
    • 03:41:17
      Are you Canadian?
    • 03:41:18
      No.
    • 03:41:33
      And you never heard of Ada much, you might have heard of this.
    • 03:41:36
      That place happened right over there, you know, so I was making a craze of risks, and the council sure died.
    • 03:41:43
      He might be a little bit innocent.
    • 03:41:45
      Someone did it simultaneously.
    • 03:41:48
      Oh, God, I have my gaze, but then one said, it didn't exist.
    • 03:41:52
      So it's created, and it can be short, and it can create a lot of boundaries.
    • 03:41:59
      Ted Estates, a GM that's still in the interest of time.
    • 03:42:03
      I'll read him in a specific way.
    • 03:42:04
      He's down here.
    • 03:42:05
      So Jay's not here.
    • 03:42:06
      He's those people.
    • 03:42:07
      There will be a...
    • 03:42:12
      and Reggie Woodhouse were very careful.
    • 03:42:14
      This council is very careful.
    • 03:42:16
      They say, well, hang on a minute.
    • 03:42:17
      That's not such a close meeting.
    • 03:42:19
      Those are the other times.
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      So you're very careful about that.
    • 03:42:23
      You know, it needs to be Charlottes taking informal action by a closed session.
    • 03:42:29
      However, it is what you know, and I thought it would be any council's judgment to conduct a strong vote.
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      and close mate.
    • 03:42:37
      So if there is an issue, then we are talking to you now from which indecision must be made.
    • 03:42:44
      Mr. Harris will provide an officer.
    • 03:42:46
      You can take a straw letter to assess where your colleagues are on a particular question.
    • 03:42:54
      The certification council was level-faded with.
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      It is not a topic that we can never skip.
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      On the other hand, this council is incredibly charitable and not at, and it includes the necessary levels of muscles to ensure that each member of the council is certified.
    • 03:43:11
      That we're really close meeting.
    • 03:43:13
      We talked about what we're saying at this meeting.
    • 03:43:15
      It was a little bit of an early example that we said that most you can meet, you know, you can look somewhere.
    • 03:43:21
      And we were talking about anything else.
    • 03:43:24
      And that's, if that statement is ever called into question, you can't be held to account if you do get it.
    • 03:43:32
      As I said, this council is extraordinarily conscientious about the footage.
    • 03:43:38
      The personnel matters.
    • 03:43:40
      Who is the council's person?
    • 03:43:41
      Alex, the people you look at.
    • 03:43:45
      It's not, for example, there's a lot of city ministries.
    • 03:43:51
      It's probably those folks who directly have died in the line by the city manager, but your consent, advice and consent is required.
    • 03:44:01
      So you can talk about your chief of staff and your clerk, the director of finance.
    • 03:44:10
      But it's a very small career, so you can't find out with some sort of benefit, even amongst the world.
    • 03:44:16
      The city manager has done something, so there's no exception to talk about it.
    • 03:44:24
      In the system, there are a lot of public works out of that position.
    • 03:44:28
      So when it's something I'm about to talk about today, but I hear it's, it's a great opportunity.
    • 03:44:34
      Yes, sir.
    • 03:44:35
      You can talk about the possibility of candidates for the police chief job since we have to hear what we said.
    • 03:44:41
      You can, you can talk, you can, you can supervise the city manager.
    • 03:44:50
      and you can have conversations with the city manager about issues that will fit your oversight of the city manager.
    • 03:45:03
      There is some play in the wheel, some play in the wheel on the topic, so you can understand.
    • 03:45:14
      and I mean, it's up to him to come up with a pretty much similar approach to intro to that information.
    • 03:45:19
      But it sounds like we need to come in.
    • 03:45:25
      We need to discuss the decision to fire the least chief, but we might be able to receive a session to discuss the higher, the better, accurate distinction.
    • 03:45:38
      Yes, there's a section here, here, God knows, there was no personnel on that one.
    • 03:45:43
      it was there, there was potential for personnel and so to believe that we have service in real time, but what I'd like to do is provide a little research on that and show that with the council.
    • 03:45:58
      I don't want to say to you that it's a decision at the time.
    • 03:46:01
      It's in that picture, it's like a saute again and you're on it.
    • 03:46:06
      Okay, thank you.
    • 03:46:13
      We're going to introduce you to the exception.
    • 03:46:17
      We just had a last meeting.
    • 03:46:19
      So, like, versus city of Charlottesville, you may always talk about that with animal or other side of the exception.
    • 03:46:25
      And that is where it would adversely affect the issue, you know, of the issue, not certain of the power of the business, certainly.
    • 03:46:32
      Yeah, yes.
    • 03:46:35
      I would argue that the exemptions to the award are not on the contract.
    • 03:46:38
      It's just so you know it's not on the contract.
    • 03:46:40
      I would say students, once it's happening, you should actually be talking about it in close meeting.
    • 03:46:47
      So once the award is made, you're stuck.
    • 03:47:00
      We put that call into contract.
    • 03:47:02
      You could, for example, if a lawsuit was filed into the contract, there would be some sort of a dispute.
    • 03:47:09
      How are they going to make me believe that it's well advised that you're a legal position, but you just can't get a roll call to contract and then say, gee, I don't want to talk to you about it.
    • 03:47:21
      Contract is perfect, honestly.
    • 03:47:23
      Now this is a contract I just started.
    • 03:47:27
      Martin, of course, would not be prevented.
    • 03:47:29
      It's just a real property.
    • 03:47:31
      Imagine that situation recently with Zero East High Street.
    • 03:47:34
      Again, we thought, say, we would look forward to the transaction of several years.
    • 03:47:39
      The Los Calzones will run 30 or 30 steps through the negative decision that I would just have on three feet.
    • 03:47:45
      That includes me, the ability to have a close meeting and have a wedding.
    • 03:47:52
      So this is the very decision, and I will tell you maybe you can do it, but the result is harsh.
    • 03:48:05
      and Gell.
    • 03:48:06
      So, again, the federal government attorneys, including me, Gell, said that the ability to defend violence, in this case, might be on statutory instruction versus limited remedies.
    • 03:48:20
      But, yeah, it's a little bit of a fail sometimes, but other than being able to find the services that are available, we should have the ability to have an issue literally from the beginning.
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      that's why you would call it where we would be their reservist.
    • 03:48:35
      So you'd have to be sure that we have a line of forehand in Charlottesville, New Zoning, where that's some development category because it's a very large result of our ability to stabilize and see what happens with
    • 03:48:54
      and I'll talk a little bit about it and I'm not going to send any time in the slide because we've outlined some of the things that are coming up.
    • 03:49:02
      I'm not going to let you know that we're taking a lot of interest from Albemarle's sample and what you're going to do with those at your lecture.
    • 03:49:11
      So we've had maybe some other notices yet and we're looking for three applies.
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      in a session shooting rare in focus and the potential of both municipal and personal activity.
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      Because I believe it will suit the reality of how we assess the state lawsuits.
    • 03:49:30
      And obviously, as the policy may earn you a lot of great responsibility from that to anything you will be able to afford with William.
    • 03:49:40
      So with that, Mr. Mayor, thank you.
    • 03:49:42
      I apologize for going slightly over time.
    • 03:49:44
      I appreciate it.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 03:49:48
      I'm sorry to take that one out on this, but we said earlier that, you know, if we receive any kind of assistance, we have to do it immediately.
    • 03:49:56
      Let's say we are out of the office, there's the out of office bounce back email we have put out and one of them was in five days.
    • 03:50:14
      What happens if it's say, like, people are bound to die?
    • 03:50:17
      What happens if there's a failure request, please contact me?
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 03:50:22
      How do we deal with that if we're not going to be around for another five-day absence?
    • 03:50:29
      Yeah, hopefully not in the process.
    • 03:50:31
      So unfortunately, I'm so sure now the office is not going to save you.
    • 03:50:38
      That issue actually happened when I was deputy city attorney in the office, not with the councilor, but with another person.
    • 03:50:43
      We were just in CI surgery in the city.
    • 03:50:47
      What is that case?
    • 03:50:48
      The deputy attorney's speech was just a public attitude.
    • 03:50:54
      What we do with city staff, and so what we trigger was counselors.
    • 03:50:58
      It's a try to advise them to always have someone to have.
    • 03:51:05
      to that person for somebody to periodically check the emails for four and a half hours a week.
    • 03:51:11
      So if you were going to be out of the train, for example, for the same period of time, I'm going to be out of the country for a couple of weeks in the sun.
    • 03:51:20
      I'm going to give you both an email or one of the letters in my set that says to virtually email so that I can just let you see your ability on that spot.
    • 03:51:29
      Yeah, but there are some grades that the perhaps we'll talk about some lines about.
    • 03:51:34
      So handle that.
    • 03:51:35
      They aren't really burdensome to the counselors.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 03:51:38
      Okay, thanks.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 03:51:39
      Thank you.
    • 03:51:43
      All right, next on our agenda is communications.
    • 03:51:45
      And communications director is going to be there.
    • 03:51:46
      She's going to be there.
    • 03:51:46
      And communications director is going to be there.
    • 03:51:48
      And communications director is going to be there.
    • 03:51:50
      And communications director is going to be there.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 03:51:51
      And communications director is going to be there.
    • SPEAKER_03
    • 03:51:53
      And communications director is going to be there.
    • 03:51:55
      And communications director is going to be there.
    • 03:51:56
      And communications director is going to be there.
    • 03:51:58
      And communications director is going to be there.
    • 03:51:59
      And communications director is going to be there.
    • 03:52:01
      And communications director is going to be there.
    • 03:52:03
      And communications director is going to be there.
    • 03:52:05
      And communications director is going to be there.
    • 03:52:06
      And communications director is going to be there.
    • 03:52:07
      And communications director is going to be there.
    • 03:52:08
      And communications director is going to be there.
    • 03:52:10
      And communications director is going to be there.
    • 03:52:11
      because there's two reasons.
    • SPEAKER_06
    • 03:52:13
      One, the city and council together, which trust with the majority with us, which are the rest of us, that we are all unified and together we're going to work together.
    • 03:52:24
      Two, I'm here to provide you with information.
    • 03:52:28
      You guys might not have all information from the subject.
    • 03:52:33
      So I'm happy all of you can have more of a good job.
    • 03:52:36
      We would like to speak for M.I.S.
    • 03:52:38
      January.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 03:52:40
      So he reached out to me asking what initiatives and justice we've been doing in the city.
    • 03:52:44
      Since he reached out to me, I was able to provide those to him, and he was able to do a great job on that.
    • 03:52:49
      So that's about it.
    • 03:52:51
      I just wanted to say, if you could, and it helps us to not get caught off guard.
    • 03:52:54
      So if one of you guys do a news story and it didn't come up in my news alerts that morning, because I get news alerts on anything that mentions Charlottesville, and then a reporter calls me and wants a quote from Sam, and we don't know what you guys said.
    • 03:53:08
      We need to look unified and together because we all work together for the community.
    • 03:53:12
      That's all I have.
    • 03:53:13
      Thanks.
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 03:53:14
      So if someone from the Daily Progress calls me up and says, kind of talked about the story.
    • 03:53:19
      Just give me a heads up.
    • 03:53:22
      Would you appreciate afterwards?
    • 03:53:24
      Hey, I talked to Jason about that would be ideal.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 03:53:26
      OK, because I mean, I work for you too.
    • 03:53:29
      I work for the citizens and I work for you.
    • 03:53:30
      So I'm just trying out.
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 03:53:32
      Yeah.
    • 03:53:33
      OK.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 03:53:33
      Makes sense.
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 03:53:34
      Yeah.
    • 03:53:35
      Thank you.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 03:53:35
      Thank you.
    • Juandiego Wade
    • 03:53:39
      All right, that was quick, no questions or communications?
    • 03:53:42
      No, it's, I get a lot of requests and for speeches and things like that and it's good because you're able to provide me with a lot of information that maybe I didn't know about, I didn't know about, and particularly for
    • 03:54:02
      media requests.
    • 03:54:04
      And like one in particular, I'm thinking about the lawsuit, you know, in use of, as you know, we, we didn't have a comment.
    • 03:54:14
      We hadn't really reviewed the document yet.
    • 03:54:17
      And I told presses and we're not prepared to make a comment in the press.
    • 03:54:21
      They, they respected that they didn't like push me or anything.
    • 03:54:25
      So I'm, I'm planning to ask, you know, to touch base with you, well, you know, when I get those types of things.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 03:54:33
      Exactly, that's a great example of that.
    • 03:54:34
      We hadn't had time to review it yet, so had you commented on it, how could you comment on it, you know?
    • SPEAKER_00
    • 03:54:39
      Thank you.
    • 03:54:40
      It's good to know where those lines are, too, where the Public Information Officer would speak versus counsel.
    • 03:54:47
      Yeah.
    • Sam Sanders
    • 03:54:50
      All right, well, we're making up time.
    • 03:54:52
      You're welcome.
    • 03:54:53
      Thank you.
    • 03:54:55
      Okay, so we're going to go into talking about the money.
    • 03:55:03
      So Chris is going to kick off a conversation and then your friend and our Kevin Roddy with PFM is going to join in that conversation as well.
    • 03:55:14
      And then I'm going to do what I always do at the sobering notes at the end.
    • 03:55:18
      So we'll go from there.
    • Krisy Hammill
    • 03:55:21
      Alright, so just be brief because we have time that we'll be talking lots over the next few months.
    • 03:55:31
      As you know, budget season is in full swing, but for council it ends up being a very condensed period of time because you basically get the budget in March.
    • 03:55:40
      and we work on the work sessions in March and then we adopt early April.
    • 03:55:45
      So on the budget webpage and also in front of you, I've given you a list of all of the public meetings that we have slated for some few we've already done.
    • 03:55:58
      So next upcoming this coming next Thursday, we will have our first sort of kickoff work session.
    • 03:56:05
      The following week on the 7th, you'll be meeting with school board to talk about their budget request.
    • 03:56:11
      They have a lot going on as if any of you tuned into the work session they've already had with the school board, there's also some big state LCI funding cuts for them.
    • 03:56:21
      So there's lots to talk about there.
    • 03:56:24
      And I think as I mentioned, we will be delivering the city manager's proposed budget to you on March 5.
    • 03:56:31
      So in terms of what I like to call horse trading and working the numbers, we're getting down to the wire.
    • 03:56:40
      and one of the things we'll be talking about on February 1st so just to kind of get you thinking about that is we'll be talking about what you may or may not want to advertise for the tax rate for real estate.
    • 03:56:55
      So just a couple of notes in comparison to the last two budgets.
    • 03:57:00
      Revenue trends are still trending up but not nearly up at the pace we've been seeing.
    • 03:57:05
      We're not looking at double digit increases.
    • 03:57:08
      This council's been very fortunate to be in a time when revenues have been growing.
    • 03:57:14
      We've also had lots of one-time money, and all that's kind of returning back to what I'll call normal, maybe.
    • 03:57:22
      However, I think it's important to say, and I'll steal a few of Sam's words, the willingness of council to be thoughtful and disciplined.
    • 03:57:32
      and as well as staff with our revenue estimates has served us well.
    • 03:57:37
      We've had some historic and uncharted times.
    • 03:57:40
      I think Sam's comment on Monday night to you was that it has allowed you to remain nimble and do some things that we hadn't contemplated in the budget and have sort of been mid-year ads.
    • 03:57:51
      But that has resulted in year-end surpluses, which sometimes leads to us being
    • 03:57:59
      Not accused, that's too harsh a word, but the comment being that sometimes it appears we're too conservative.
    • 03:58:04
      But if you look at over the last, you know, 10 years or so, as a percent of our budget, our surpluses have averaged about 2%.
    • 03:58:16
      Fy-22 trended a little higher at 3.5 and Fy-23 was at 6.9 so those were a little bit higher than the average but keep in mind during that time when we were working on the 2022 budget we were in 2021 and we had no idea how we would recover from the pandemic and the 2023 budget development time there were many economists who were projecting a national recession so
    • 03:58:46
      All this to say that, you know, even if we are conservative and we end up with the surpluses, they do come back to you and it has allowed us to do some things in like zero east high.
    • 03:59:00
      We were able to have money to address the flood in City Hall, Premier Circle, Dogwood, K-Tech, those were all big investments that we had not contemplated during our budget process.
    • 03:59:13
      So again, I feel like when we start kicking off the budget, if you re-round every time I've spoken to council, I would always say this budget is a challenge.
    • 03:59:24
      But I think that every year we do raise the bar.
    • 03:59:27
      I think one sort of shift this year is that with collective bargaining, the comp and class,
    • 03:59:37
      The needs of schools, climate action goals, homelessness, many of those are fixed.
    • 03:59:44
      So a lot of times we are talking about things that are of relevance during that year, but many of the things we'll be talking about this year will move with us to the future and sort of create our base.
    • 03:59:58
      And so it's always a challenge to get these pieces to fit together, but we will get there.
    • 04:00:04
      And so with that, I'm going to turn it over to Kevin to provide you some more context.
    • 04:00:09
      And, you know, there is some method to the madness.
    • SPEAKER_16
    • 04:00:12
      But thanks, Chrissy.
    • 04:00:15
      And thanks for having us here today.
    • 04:00:16
      I just wanted to start out by saying I echo a lot of what Chrissy just outlined to you.
    • 04:00:24
      We're seeing similar discussions with our other highly rated clients.
    • 04:00:29
      You know, the economic slowdown, most economists are coming, so most people are locking down and thinking more conservative.
    • 04:00:38
      The sun has been shining and we have had some great years, but it does appear to be getting tighter.
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      But I do applaud y'all's smart uses.
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      Y'all are doing the right things.
    • 04:00:52
      of using your surpluses for the one-time funds versus really programming that out because that does nothing but really create the double dip down the road.
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      I looked at with Chrissy that the history of our surpluses and completely agree.
    • 04:01:11
      You know, personally, you know, just kind of marvel at your ability to get it so close.
    • 04:01:17
      I mean, you got to think we've got a hundred and fifty now over two hundred million dollar budget and we're talking about getting it within two percent.
    • 04:01:27
      So a couple million dollars.
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      And as you think through this, we're doing our budget process right now for FY 25.
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      So that's anywhere from six to 18 months out.
    • 04:01:39
      So
    • 04:01:40
      Chrissy does have a good crystal ball.
    • 04:01:42
      We're pretty close.
    • 04:01:45
      But we did have a bigger surplus this year, but you've really got to miss on that side, because the problem of missing on the other side is you've got to go back and correct it, and then you're going to be dipping into surpluses.
    • 04:02:03
      So you want to be careful on that.
    • 04:02:07
      for those that have been on council for a while, you know, I come annually and I normally talk to you about your CIP and debt issuance and what the rating agencies are thinking about, but I just wanted to offer a few comments this year.
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      on collective bargaining and the importance of these negotiations.
    • 04:02:27
      As you think about our previous discussions, when we're talking about debt, we used to have a debt service as a percent of expenditure budget, a cap in it at eight.
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      We knew there was pressure in the future.
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      We raised that to nine and then up to 10 with a goal of nine.
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      And so that's 10% max of your budget.
    • 04:02:48
      When you're talking collective bargaining, you're talking the wages and benefits, or 33% of the city's general fund budget.
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      And the three bargaining units we're talking about is about a third of that.
    • 04:03:04
      So that 11% is greater than all your debt service combined.
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      And so as we look to that, that's why the importance of these overall negotiations or discussions are really important and what's really important to the rating agencies and this council and the budget team.
    • 04:03:25
      And so a couple of years ago when the General Assembly passed the legislation,
    • 04:03:31
      On collective bargaining, we started getting asked a lot of questions by the rating agencies.
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      Namely, what is your status of your negotiations?
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      How many certified units are there?
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      What's the flexibility of the contracts and the various terms of the contracts?
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      What is management's ability to control wages and benefits and work rules?
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      Do the employees have the right to strike?
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      and perhaps most importantly, what's the budgetary impact and how do you plan on paying for it?
    • 04:04:05
      So those are certainly good questions.
    • 04:04:08
      They're questions rating agencies want answers to.
    • 04:04:10
      I'm sure there's questions that y'all want answers to.
    • 04:04:14
      And so this didn't really, our point of today is not saying collective bargaining is a bad thing or we're against collective bargaining because there's a lot of highly rated governments out there that
    • 04:04:26
      and actively collected bargaining.
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      The point is just really fully understand what's all involved in it, what kind of flexibility there is for the council in the out years of the negotiating period and what's the budgetary impact.
    • 04:04:45
      And so that's just my thoughts at a high level and I'll turn it over to Sam.
    • Sam Sanders
    • 04:04:51
      Yeah, so I'm going to pick up on the collective bargaining subject because it was very important for us to check in with Kevin when I heard that the rating agencies will ask questions about collective bargaining.
    • SPEAKER_16
    • 04:05:09
      I'm with Public Financial Management.
    • 04:05:10
      The City's Financial Advisor help you with your annual issuances of debt and just various financially related things.
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 04:05:18
      That's what I thought.
    • Sam Sanders
    • 04:05:19
      It's been a year or so.
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      My eyes behind the curtain.
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      We consult him when we're worried.
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      And I ran to him on collective bargaining, I'll say.
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      Because the rating agencies will ask that question, this will be the first time that they're going to pose that to us.
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      So we have not had that before because we haven't had to address it because it wasn't live.
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      So it was important for me getting ready for going into that when they do come to visit the next time.
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      that we understood what all we had to look at in regards to it's a lot more than just the contract.
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      And I think what I've talked to staff about is I don't know that we dug in as deep as we should have internally just to make sure that we had our arms around exactly what that scope entailed.
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      I'm still learning things.
    • 04:06:11
      and that's been a bit sobering and scary at the same time but it hasn't been anything that we haven't been able to address and adapt to but there's staff functions that change as a result of the existence of contracts and then therefore the management of said relationships that we hadn't talked about before just maybe two weeks ago so there's some moments like that that are coming to pass
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      that I've got to keep in mind.
    • 04:06:38
      But I just want to use this moment because I know that the public is watching as well to restate that there is no opposition to collective bargaining.
    • 04:06:48
      I know that there's there's some tensions, there is emotions, there's feelings about what a challenging process it is, is a challenging process.
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      but it's a challenging process by design because you have two parties come into the table and each wants something different and you leave the table at some point maybe happy maybe not happy but I'm just restating that there's no opposition there we are working we are working diligently they are working as we speak because of three bargaining units it's nonstop
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      It is a lot.
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      It has been quite challenging to even integrate it into our normal workflow because of the amount of time that it requires.
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      But the goal is to reach the intended compromise that leads to a contract.
    • 04:07:32
      It is my absolute desire to have three contracts.
    • 04:07:35
      My goal and dream right now is as soon as possible would be great.
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      One, I could get some sleep.
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      But two, we can get the numbers together that we need to be able to produce the budget that I'm expected to produce.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 04:07:46
      So I can get some sleep.
    • 04:07:47
      So she can get some sleep.
    • Sam Sanders
    • 04:07:50
      But again, just wanting to reiterate that we want three contracts.
    • 04:07:53
      We want to be able to bring them to council for the approval.
    • 04:07:57
      There is no desire to stop that from happening in any way.
    • 04:08:01
      We actually engaged PFM because we didn't do it early as we now learn we should have to help us cost this because we needed some better understandings of what
    • 04:08:12
      and other various aspects of these contracts would cost us that we really had no sense of what that might be because we've never done it before.
    • 04:08:19
      It's been helpful.
    • 04:08:23
      Quite impressive how quickly they've been able to catch up because we called them and put them in a choke hold and said, please help us.
    • 04:08:32
      And we know you don't have enough time to do this, but if you can figure it out and they have, so I want to thank you, Kevin, your team for being able to get us what we've needed.
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      It's been invaluable to actually move us through the process because we would have struggled a lot longer with some of the things that we actually been able to return to the table with had it not been for being able to get that
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      But you all have given me the charge that collective bargaining is our new operating framework.
    • 04:09:01
      So I have to make that happen.
    • 04:09:03
      And it is my desire to always bring you what you've asked for to the best of my ability.
    • 04:09:08
      So that means three contracts.
    • 04:09:09
      So I expect to have those as soon as we possibly can.
    • 04:09:13
      In addition to that, we acknowledge that we have not paid our employees well.
    • 04:09:17
      I think everybody knows that.
    • 04:09:19
      It's not something that anyone would really stand up and want to argue about because it's been a period of time that we've allowed that to happen.
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      The goal would be to correct that as quickly as we possibly can.
    • 04:09:34
      Ideally, anyone sitting in this seat would love to take discussions about compensation off the table so we can get the work done.
    • 04:09:42
      But we recognize that that's a part of it.
    • 04:09:44
      I'm sure Charles will tell you in all of his years of way back doing it, he had the same battles.
    • 04:09:49
      Everyone believes
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      and
    • 04:10:09
      Study 100%.
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      That would be ideal for me.
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      I'm not ready to make that commitment.
    • 04:10:15
      I can't make that commitment.
    • 04:10:17
      That's why she can't sleep because we're trying to figure out how we can make that commitment.
    • 04:10:21
      If we are able to figure it out, the goal would be to do that.
    • 04:10:24
      And if not, I'll give it my best shot to get as close to 100% as we can.
    • 04:10:28
      Are you telling me this year?
    • 04:10:30
      This year in this proposed budget.
    • 04:10:32
      And if it doesn't all happen in one budget year, then we'll have to look at it as more than one budget year.
    • 04:10:38
      That doesn't help our employees feel good.
    • 04:10:40
      If that's the message, I'm not making that message to them, but I'm trying to get as clear an answer as possible.
    • 04:10:46
      I just recently communicated a change to healthcare that was long overdue and in that moment I said let me talk about collective bargaining and cop and class so everyone continues to hear from me exactly what I think about these things and what I'm working on but just the fact that we're bringing in three bargaining units and trying to implement cop and class means we're trying to shift our entire workforce at the same time
    • 04:11:12
      He would say, danger will Robinson.
    • 04:11:15
      What are you doing?
    • 04:11:16
      That's a lot of money.
    • 04:11:18
      We've got to make sure we can figure that out so that he goes back and he's not worried.
    • 04:11:24
      And then we don't get the other people worried.
    • 04:11:27
      and what we have to do is balance all these things.
    • 04:11:30
      And if I had to identify some of your pressure points for you right now, so this is forecasting what this budget conversation ahead is going to be.
    • 04:11:38
      Schools have priorities.
    • 04:11:40
      Our Charlottesville City Schools have a series of priorities and one of them right now is an operating increase.
    • 04:11:47
      That operating increase then is something that has to be balanced with collective bargaining contracts, cop and class, because those two things along are huge, very expensive, just to pull those things off as your top priority right now.
    • 04:12:02
      Fitting in schools as another priority, not telling you not to and would never tell you what to do, but just saying there's some real balance there, but I'm not finished.
    • 04:12:14
      Cat alternative fuels.
    • 04:12:15
      We have no money set aside whatsoever to implement what you're actually considering at this moment about transforming your fleet.
    • 04:12:24
      That's going to be a significant expenditure and it's not one time as Chrissy just identified.
    • 04:12:30
      The things we're talking about are sea changes.
    • 04:12:32
      They're going to last forever.
    • 04:12:35
      We're going to have to continue to maintain these things.
    • 04:12:38
      We're already making a huge investment in affordable housing.
    • 04:12:41
      At times we go well above what we have as a commitment, and other times we get right there.
    • 04:12:47
      But every time we hit it, $10 million a year, we're hitting that number and how we calculate that.
    • 04:12:53
      But we've been exceeding that number in a number of years.
    • 04:12:56
      We're going to have to reconcile how much more of that and how often we can even exceed it at this point if the other things aren't to fit.
    • 04:13:05
      So that's another question.
    • 04:13:07
      What are we going to do about homelessness?
    • 04:13:09
      I can't seem to get out of that conversation even when I don't intend to communicate a lot about it.
    • 04:13:14
      But it is something that we have to craft.
    • 04:13:16
      What is our permanent intervention?
    • 04:13:18
      And that's one that won't go away.
    • 04:13:19
      It won't be cheap and it won't go away.
    • 04:13:21
      There's work to be done.
    • 04:13:23
      And then just the management of our CIP.
    • 04:13:25
      We have a very healthy CIP.
    • 04:13:28
      was a lot in there, and we're still talking about adding even more.
    • 04:13:32
      And in this five-year window, we have a significant amount on the table for inclusion in the CIP.
    • 04:13:40
      He's going to say, show me you can pay it.
    • 04:13:42
      Show me you can balance it.
    • 04:13:43
      Everything is OK.
    • 04:13:44
      Today we can.
    • 04:13:45
      But that's going to lead at some point soon that we're going to have to say, we can't do this because we just can't do it right now.
    • 04:13:52
      And we need to let more time come into play.
    • 04:13:55
      And then we start to add those things.
    • 04:13:57
      So I share that with you just to say that I'm always going to be the one having to give you that sobering news of how hard and challenging it is.
    • 04:14:05
      It's not meant to be viewed as negative.
    • 04:14:07
      It's meant to be informative.
    • 04:14:09
      I'm trying to point out the things that we can't lose sight of as we move down these things down this road and we can't take these things individually anymore.
    • 04:14:17
      I think that's really the message that I'm delivering to you is that we have to look at this more globally.
    • 04:14:22
      These are very expensive propositions that we're considering at the same time.
    • 04:14:27
      and without space, that means we're going to have to make some different decisions than we've probably been making when there have been, okay, let's do this and we can spend this amount of money, give ourselves a couple of years and we spend something big again.
    • 04:14:39
      Right now, it feels as though we're packing in big things all at the same time.
    • Juandiego Wade
    • 04:14:48
      So it's same like, you know, for many years, the city just dropped the ball.
    • 04:14:56
      you know, healthcare on compensation, on looking at projects in CRP that we may or may not do if it's viable.
    • 04:15:10
      Last year we really kind of got down to the details and looking at projects in the future years and things.
    • 04:15:16
      I thought that was very helpful.
    • 04:15:17
      So it seemed like now and you know, we have the compensation study, but the new component is the collective bargain.
    • 04:15:26
      So, and I, you know, already been contacted by the schools and things that they have a pretty healthy increase just to kind of baseline type of things, you know.
    • 04:15:38
      So, and, you know, and, and Charles mentioned at the beginning, no one really wants to raise real estate taxes and things like that.
    • 04:15:49
      So we have to kind of
    • 04:15:52
      Factor all of that in and see how it shakes out and see what the numbers look like.
    • 04:15:59
      It'll be real interesting.
    • Krisy Hammill
    • 04:16:01
      Can I just make one point of clarification?
    • 04:16:03
      Because this is really important.
    • 04:16:05
      I don't want the perception to be that we dropped the ball on health care.
    • 04:16:09
      So our health insurance plans are very rich.
    • 04:16:14
      They serve our employees very well.
    • 04:16:19
      and we have been able to afford those because one, there weren't a lot of claims during COVID.
    • 04:16:24
      We had very healthy fund balances.
    • 04:16:26
      And so because of COVID and a lot of other things, we have not passed on premium increases to employees.
    • 04:16:32
      The city has taken on those costs.
    • 04:16:34
      We've had fund balances we've been able to buy down.
    • 04:16:37
      Now what's happened is people are going back to the doctor.
    • 04:16:40
      Medical costs are continuing to increase.
    • 04:16:42
      So that's not sustainable, which is why we're making the changes.
    • 04:16:46
      I just want to be very careful that we're not given the impression that
    • 04:16:50
      We have dropped the ball on our insurance.
    • 04:16:52
      We were really trying to do that from a perception of taking care of employees.
    • 04:16:56
      And we just, we have to make some changes.
    • 04:16:59
      But even the changes that we're proposing, we're still well ahead of our market peers in terms, our plans are still very good plans.
    • SPEAKER_14
    • 04:17:08
      Thank you.
    • 04:17:10
      Just a quick question.
    • 04:17:11
      Are you guys with your self insured or are you part of the pool?
    • Krisy Hammill
    • 04:17:15
      Self insured.
    • 04:17:15
      Thank you.
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 04:17:18
      Can you remind me with the $17 million grant or whatever this guy got?
    • 04:17:23
      Is that offsetting expenditures that we would be making in our CIT?
    • Krisy Hammill
    • 04:17:29
      It's offsetting debt that we'll be issuing.
    • 04:17:31
      It's really preserving capacity for the future, right?
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 04:17:34
      So originally come to us or come to the school.
    • Krisy Hammill
    • 04:17:37
      It comes to the schools, but we will be spending the money.
    • 04:17:41
      We'll send a bill to the schools.
    • 04:17:42
      The schools will build grant.
    • 04:17:44
      The grant will reimburse that will eventually come back to the city.
    • 04:17:47
      So we will be modifying the CF, you know, last year we had all bond funding for Buford that we will be modifying and amending the CIP and you'll see that 17 million come in, which means our bonds that we intend to issue or authorize will be less.
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 04:18:02
      Okay.
    • 04:18:04
      And remind me, have we, have we seen where the new real estate revenues are coming in that?
    • Krisy Hammill
    • 04:18:11
      They're coming out this week.
    • 04:18:14
      31st, notices will be going out to the public.
    • 04:18:17
      and we will be talking about that Thursday night.
    • Sam Sanders
    • 04:18:20
      And that's a part of our agenda on the first, is to talk about revenues, talking about real estate tax, rates level.
    • Juandiego Wade
    • 04:18:30
      We'll hear about it before.
    • Krisy Hammill
    • 04:18:35
      Preview, it's not a double digit increase.
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 04:18:39
      It's always a double H sword.
    • Lloyd Snook
    • 04:18:41
      I'm not sure whether it's good news or bad news.
    • Sam Sanders
    • 04:18:46
      That's what I said.
    • 04:18:46
      I know that's how it works.
    • 04:18:49
      That's what I said.
    • Krisy Hammill
    • 04:18:50
      I'll say the general trend is it's still up, but it's not double digits like we've seen.
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 04:18:56
      The one thing I will say about the comments that you made seeing it as you paying our staff appropriately,
    • 04:19:10
      I know this is a hard thing to communicate to staff, but I am committed and I think all of us are committed to doing the right thing, but it may take a little bit of time to do the right thing.
    • 04:19:26
      And if there's been issues in the past, we're working to redress those and to
    • 04:19:40
      get our city staff paid in ways that we feel like are commensurate with external benchmarks.
    • 04:19:50
      But the notion that this is going to be fixed all at one budget, I think, is unrealistic.
    • 04:20:00
      And it's not my job to communicate that to people, I guess.
    • 04:20:05
      But I just want you to know from my perspective
    • 04:20:12
      that I don't expect you to be able to resolve all this in a single year.
    • 04:20:17
      And staff may not like that answer, but all I would say is since we've, you know, the last two years we have been beating the drum on let's take care of our staff, let's do what we can to rectify the past and to build for a positive future.
    • 04:20:33
      But you can't turn a ship on a dime and that's
    • 04:20:43
      And it's a big ship.
    • 04:20:45
      And unfortunately, I think there were, frankly, years in which there was just not the kind of attention paid that needed to be paid.
    • 04:20:54
      And we are doing that.
    • 04:20:56
      We're being proactive and thoughtful.
    • 04:20:59
      But I would just ask people's patience.
    • 04:21:03
      Because the flip side is we go find money from somewhere.
    • 04:21:08
      And no one wants us to go find even more money anywhere.
    • 04:21:15
      I get that as well, but it is the balance that you've mentioned.
    • 04:21:20
      I recognize that.
    • 04:21:22
      That doesn't mean I'm not going to push you to do things like the library, but I know.
    • Michael Payne
    • 04:21:30
      For collective bargaining, I think some time ago you said there's an estimate around $10 million, possibly for the wage and comp study.
    • 04:21:41
      Is there a general
    • 04:21:43
      Rang
    • Sam Sanders
    • 04:22:04
      We're not there yet.
    • 04:22:04
      And because we're this close to the end, it's hard to pinpoint because we are literally changing numbers sometimes by the hour because we're in
    • 04:22:18
      I think our last update was maybe even this morning from a decision I made last night at quarter to six.
    • 04:22:25
      So there's a lot of moving parts at this moment.
    • 04:22:28
      We haven't quite figured out what the number is.
    • 04:22:30
      We know what the number is for conference class because that work, that project that I mentioned to you when we passed the policy, when you adopted the policy, that work has now concluded.
    • 04:22:42
      And then it just,
    • 04:22:46
      to come and join.
    • 04:22:47
      And then I hear the rest of the conversation from you all, specifically from schools at this moment.
    • 04:22:54
      And then we can package it together and price what the number is going to cost for this budget.
    • 04:22:59
      It's just hard to say what it is for this budget right now.
    • 04:23:02
      But we're in excess of $10 million.
    • 04:23:05
      We're a total impact of COMP class and collective bargaining.
    • 04:23:09
      Total?
    • 04:23:10
      Past that number.
    • 04:23:12
      I feel it's going to take.
    • Krisy Hammill
    • 04:23:15
      Timmer Curry Calls
    • Sam Sanders
    • 04:23:30
      shipped a little bit slower and adjust, but it doesn't stop because you also have the door that is open for three more units of bargaining to come through, and the fourth one is already organizing, just FYI, we are anticipating that.
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 04:23:45
      This thing is important to keep in mind that this is an investment.
    • 04:23:48
      This is an ongoing investment.
    • 04:23:50
      Yes, and it's what it takes to have a city that is responsive to its citizens, and our citizens expect us to be responsive to them.
    • Sam Sanders
    • 04:23:59
      Michael, you have any comments right now?
    • Michael Payne
    • 04:24:16
      Just the only other thing that came to mind is I know this isn't going to be a solution to this budget cycle, but I think it just brings to mind a conversation that I think we have to engage in and think about at some point, which is the question of the University of Virginia.
    • 04:24:35
      in a year in revenue because of their property tax exemption.
    • 04:24:39
      And as they continue to buy property, I think that is a very real impact on our budget and our ability to do these things.
    • 04:24:47
      And I know that's not going to be a solution in this budget cycle, but I think it is genuinely a conversation that we need to figure out how to engage in because there are cities across the country that have.
    • Lloyd Snook
    • 04:25:01
      and cities across the Commonwealth, or towns at least, Blacksburg is fussing about it right now, although they acknowledge they have no authority to do anything either, but they've got an even more severe problem than we do given population imbalance is Harrisonburg, similar concerns, because of the growth of JMU.
    • Sam Sanders
    • 04:25:19
      So are there any other, any questions about just kind of this budget section?
    • Juandiego Wade
    • 04:25:24
      I do.
    • 04:25:28
      So I know that it's
    • 04:25:31
      that we, you know, hear the numbers that we've had the triple A rating as the city wanted a few and the state and a few in the countries that have had it for so long and I've realized it's very important.
    • 04:25:44
      Is there any way that you can, you know, give us an idea of what it says, it's like the bonds that, because I just want to say that
    • 04:25:57
      It saves us money when we go out to buy money or to get to get money.
    • 04:26:02
      And I'm thinking of something for the school if we had, you know, we're triple A for a double A or a single A, like, you know, what that will cost?
    • 04:26:12
      Because I think that is
    • 04:26:17
      It's important, and I want to keep that.
    • 04:26:19
      And I'm going to say, this way we're able to do Buford and other projects, it actually saves us a lot of money when we're going out.
    • 04:26:27
      It's my understanding we're really attractive to investors or people out there that want their own money.
    • Krisy Hammill
    • 04:26:34
      I want to defer to the experts who can probably speak to that more eloquently than me.
    • SPEAKER_16
    • 04:26:40
      Sure.
    • 04:26:42
      It sort of depends on the interest rate environment.
    • 04:26:45
      Interest rates are higher now, so the gap is going to be a little bit wider and then as it compresses.
    • 04:26:52
      But it depends what level you would go to, but just in a general ballpark.
    • 04:26:58
      You know, if you drop down to say the A category, a decent amount, it'd probably be over half a percent, you know, and on your overall barring program, over, you know, you're barring these bonds over 20 years, those numbers really add up.
    • 04:27:17
      And so, you know, the AAA is really important.
    • 04:27:23
      to me it's like you guys doing the right things getting sound fundamental contracts and making these key decisions allows you to run the government so what while you're doing the right thing is allowing you to maintain the rating
    • 04:27:40
      You know, if you took all the money you had in the bank and said we don't want to borrow and we want to spend it on, you know, a specific capital project, your ratings would decline and you would have, you know, greater difficulty raising money, but you'd also have a lot of difficulty even operating, paying payroll, doing stuff like that.
    • 04:28:02
      Ratings are a complex thing involving a lot of different things, the overall economy, your finances, your management, all these things kind of blend into keeping that AAA rating.
    • 04:28:15
      And then when it does come time to borrow, it is saving you a significant amount of money.
    • Juandiego Wade
    • 04:28:21
      It's like the LCI, there's a lot of stuff thrown in there and it's hard to really measure it, but
    • Krisy Hammill
    • 04:28:30
      And I would just add that all the things that we're talking about, whether we were AAA, AA, whatever, doesn't, we still would have these same conversations because we are required to have a balanced budget.
    • 04:28:43
      We, you know, we only have one pot of money.
    • 04:28:45
      How do we split the pie kind of thing?
    • 04:28:48
      So I think the the bond rating is the after effects of, you know, what is the result of how you handled all that.
    • 04:28:58
      You know, I think in the light of school projects of can we put those in the CIP or not, it became an important discussion.
    • 04:29:06
      But, you know, we, as we've talked about, we've got plenty of capacity, but can we pay the annual debt service at this point is where we are.
    • Lloyd Snook
    • 04:29:15
      As proof that nothing electronic
    • Krisy Hammill
    • 04:29:22
      and he looks at me.
    • Lloyd Snook
    • 04:29:23
      I have an email from Jason Vandiver dated May 26, 2020 says, I spoke to Chrissy and this is what we found in last year's bond presentation.
    • 04:29:35
      So this is 2019 bond presentation that with a debt portfolio in excess of a hundred million dollars, the city AAA bond ratings have allowed the city to reduce its debt service by three to four million dollars as opposed to what it would have been if it was rated AA.
    • 04:29:52
      Yes, it matters.
    • Juandiego Wade
    • 04:29:53
      Real money.
    • 04:29:55
      Thank you.
    • Lloyd Snook
    • 04:30:06
      I asked for this because somebody, a citizen, had responded to one of my emails where I was talking about the importance of AAA bond rating to say,
    • SPEAKER_16
    • 04:30:24
      And that's a great point.
    • 04:30:26
      And as I started, the answer, that's when interest rates were low and compressed.
    • 04:30:32
      Now that they're higher, that gap is wider, so that three to four easily becomes five to six.
    • 04:30:40
      Hopefully they'll come back down, but it is real money.
    • 04:30:45
      When you say a quarter of a percent or half percent, everybody's just like, that's not that much.
    • 04:30:53
      But when you throw it on hundreds of millions of dollars over 20 years, it's a serious addition to your budget.
    • 04:31:02
      What is our current debt load?
    • Krisy Hammill
    • 04:31:04
      How much do we have outstanding?
    • 04:31:08
      about a hundred and fifteen-ish million?
    • Lloyd Snook
    • 04:31:11
      Yeah.
    • 04:31:12
      So extrapolating, we're probably, if it's now five to six, a little more than a hundred, maybe now it's six to seven.
    • 04:31:18
      Right.
    • 04:31:19
      You take that over the life of the loans, and we would average out to roughly three hundred, three hundred fifty thousand dollars a year.
    • Krisy Hammill
    • 04:31:26
      Well, and Jay just pointed out as well, like in 2020 interest rates were one percent probably.
    • 04:31:32
      So we've already had to adjust.
    • 04:31:37
      And I would be remiss if we didn't introduce Sarah Frye, just FYI, you may be hearing about her.
    • 04:31:43
      She's Kevin's colleague and she's helping us.
    • 04:31:47
      We've engaged with her.
    • 04:31:48
      She's helping us wade through all the lovely treasury things in terms of, I don't know, you can explain it a little bit better than me, but you might be hearing from her in the transit conversation and others coming forward.
    • SPEAKER_01
    • 04:32:03
      So
    • 04:32:04
      Yes, thank you.
    • 04:32:05
      We're hoping to look at the federal funding opportunities through the Inflation Reduction Act and other opportunities and how they may subsidize some of the work that you're doing.
    • Sam Sanders
    • 04:32:13
      That's in the climate space.
    • 04:32:15
      So notice, I didn't even mention anything but CAT on my list, but all the other things that we're even thinking about in the climate space, that's where we hope everything will work out for us and we find another avenue for there to be some resources available that won't require it to be our cash.
    • 04:32:38
      Okay, well, on the schedule, we're set for a break before we shift into the last section on strategic planning.
    • 04:32:44
      Do y'all need that break, or?
    • 04:32:49
      I'm going to go to the restroom.
    • 04:32:50
      Well, that's a break.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 04:32:51
      All right, let's just talk really loud.
    • 04:32:53
      Let's take a break.
    • Sam Sanders
    • 04:40:46
      All right, so we are back.
    • 04:40:48
      This is the last section of today's agenda focused on strategic planning.
    • 04:40:54
      The first thing I would do is have Charles kind of reflect on what you just heard because you heard a lot of our stuff.
    • 04:41:00
      And if you had any thoughts on what you just heard from experience and all that.
    • 04:41:05
      Sure.
    • SPEAKER_14
    • 04:41:07
      I hope I can, I'm heard here.
    • 04:41:08
      So.
    • 04:41:14
      just a couple of things in the observation, obviously you've had the subject matter experts sort of tell you what's going on, but just a couple observations and things going on around the Commonwealth that some of your fellow governing bodies are dealing with and also staffs, you know, just put it in context, you know, several other localities are navigating the implementation of collective bargaining, which is obviously
    • 04:41:35
      You know, a challenge thing to install overnight in communities and stuff.
    • 04:41:40
      You're seeing the repercussions of that, not just budgetarily, but also from a staffing perspective and how you manage those relationships going forward.
    • 04:41:47
      Compensation classification.
    • 04:41:50
      My advice is very similar to probably your staffs.
    • 04:41:54
      While it's very challenging from year to year and you just don't know where you're going to be financially, you don't know what the economy is going to be, it's always easier to make those investments incrementally over time and consistently that way you're not sort of stuck in that situation and make huge investments in one year to the next.
    • 04:42:09
      For example, there's a county that we're working with here in the Commonwealth that's had to increase certain segments of their workforce by as much as 70%, increasing their salaries in one year, which is a huge, huge amount to try to catch up because of market-based needs, just to maintain staff and to compete.
    • 04:42:30
      with not only local governments, but other entities.
    • 04:42:33
      So there's a lot of consternation of folks trying to figure out the best solution for their community and their organization.
    • 04:42:41
      I won't talk about schools, but so much because I know you only have so much oversight, obviously, but I will provide some context with that for those of you who haven't followed this long.
    • 04:42:49
      I mentioned some of this during my overview at the beginning.
    • 04:42:54
      There was obviously a study that was produced by JLAR
    • 04:42:58
      from the General Assembly in the middle of last year, 2023, I think came out in the summer.
    • 04:43:03
      It talked about how much school divisions are underfunded and a lot of it is based on, I think the word that the media used was dissenting.
    • 04:43:19
      Right now there's a legislative workgroup that will be, that has been directed to produce a report by November this calendar year 2024.
    • 04:43:28
      So once that comes forward and basically presents some alternatives to our current funding streams from the state to local governments for schools, you'll probably see a significant amount of discussion about that in the 2025 general assembly session and obviously that could potentially be significant budget amendments possibly based on that.
    • 04:43:47
      So that's something for you just to keep in mind and I'm sure your staff will keep you up to date on that as that moves forward.
    • 04:43:55
      Talking about the rating agencies, I'll just emphasize what your professionals said.
    • 04:43:59
      The things that they're looking for, and I've done that in my previous career, is presented to rating agencies on behalf of a locality.
    • 04:44:07
      They're looking for strong management from both the governing body and from your staff.
    • 04:44:12
      are looking for consistency in how you fund things and making sure that you're meeting all the patients and that you're really looking at the cost of doing business.
    • 04:44:20
      For example, collective bargaining, anything that's on the books in the future that you have to keep it from an accounting standpoint.
    • 04:44:28
      So the other, in the other part that just in general is, you know, as the city manager and I were discussing in preparation for this meeting,
    • 04:44:36
      You know, encumbered versus unencumbered budgeting.
    • 04:44:40
      When you look at your general fund budget in this upcoming year as you get your presentations from staff, you've got a lot of things that are not really negotiable.
    • 04:44:49
      There are going to be absolute hard costs of doing business.
    • 04:44:51
      The city's got a fund moving forward.
    • 04:44:53
      And so there's only been so much play for y'all to have flexibility to look at alternative funding in the budget.
    • 04:44:58
      So we can spend some of that time, at least as a very high
    • 04:45:03
      in the outcome areas and how that impacts your budget discussions over the next couple of months.
    • 04:45:10
      So those are really the biggest things, the takeaways that I have from the finance and the budget.
    • 04:45:16
      I'm happy to answer any questions you guys have about that.
    • 04:45:18
      If not, if it's the pleasure of the council, we can talk a little bit about strategic planning and then next steps.
    • 04:45:29
      Any context or anything Osama you want to add to that?
    • 04:45:32
      that discussion process.
    • Sam Sanders
    • 04:45:33
      No I think that we're good.
    • 04:45:37
      That covers it.
    • SPEAKER_14
    • 04:45:57
      So in the fall of last year, September 2023, council adopted the strategic plan framework, which is a little bit updated from your previous, five goals that you were using as part of your budget for FY24.
    • 04:46:14
      So now we've got a little bit more areas that we're focusing on that are very specific, particular initiatives that you've
    • 04:46:24
      So obviously I'll need to repeat those, you know, those are the city managers already and obviously Chrissy and the budget staff as well very talked about some of those impacts whether it be collective bargaining, whether it be the fact for example, you know, there's a desire for the cap alternative fuels transition and funding that that takes the capital investments up front and the ongoing costs and
    • 04:46:49
      and so what we need to talk about a little bit is priorities to give staff some feedback as they're going back and preparing the budget with these strategic outcome areas.
    • 04:46:59
      Again, there's only so much money that is not going to be encumbered in your upcoming general fund and budget so we need to talk about what that looks like.
    • 04:47:08
      So, I'm happy to start out the conversation.
    • 04:47:10
      Open up the council a little bit about what you all see.
    • 04:47:14
      I'm happy to take some notes and for that to be part of our discussion today with these concerns.
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 04:47:21
      So, based on the... It's possible to increase the zoom on that so we can... Yeah, I'll do it.
    • 04:47:25
      We can see it.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 04:47:27
      I didn't like that.
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 04:47:27
      I know I should have memorized, but...
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 04:47:43
      That's awesome.
    • Lloyd Snook
    • 04:47:48
      Just a little smaller so we can get all of that portion in.
    • 04:47:52
      One click small.
    • 04:47:53
      Yeah, okay.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 04:47:56
      Just one more.
    • Lloyd Snook
    • 04:47:57
      So we can get the last line.
    • 04:47:59
      There we go.
    • SPEAKER_08
    • 04:47:59
      Okay, but don't forget.
    • Lloyd Snook
    • 04:48:02
      We're not
    • SPEAKER_14
    • 04:48:09
      All right, so we got a lot of topics here on the table and all of them are important, right?
    • 04:48:23
      That's what every governing body's got to look at when you're looking at strategic planning in this process.
    • 04:48:30
      Now it's going to impact your budget and your decisions for capital improvements and everything else.
    • 04:48:35
      So I just want to start a little bit with talking about some of those priorities.
    • 04:48:39
      So what are things that are non-negotiable, that we're going to focus on, not only is it a priority, but we're going to actually fund them during this upcoming fiscal year?
    • 04:48:52
      Is it fair to say that some portion, we don't know what yet, of compensation is going to be a part of our budget, right?
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 04:48:58
      Yeah, it has some organizational excellence.
    • 04:49:03
      And it's necessary for everything else.
    • Lloyd Snook
    • 04:49:06
      Would it be appropriate to ask how much of this current fiscal year's budget is not up for grabs?
    • 04:49:14
      In other words, I mean, I don't have a sense of whether out of the 200 and what, 215 million or whatever the current fiscal year is.
    • 04:49:24
      I don't know how much of that is even subject to discussion for this year or whether it's all basically, quote, encumbered in a sense.
    • Krisy Hammill
    • 04:49:32
      So I might answer that a different way is that we have allocated every dollar to be spent on something.
    • 04:49:41
      Because the budget is balanced.
    • 04:49:43
      So, you know, in that light, if you want to, in the strictest sense, you know, the any kind of reserve that we've set aside, which aren't many, you know, CIP contingency, for example, is a lever you have in the CIP.
    • 04:50:00
      In the general fund, we really don't have any.
    • 04:50:03
      I mean, we've been talking about vacancy savings.
    • 04:50:07
      You know, I will tell you that as a lever, we're already going to pull in the way we're budgeting for vacancies for 25.
    • 04:50:13
      So that's even going to be gone.
    • 04:50:16
      So, you know, it's really, I don't know your thoughts on this, but the way I would think about it is the part that you have to play with in the in the upcoming budget season is any new revenue.
    • SPEAKER_04
    • 04:50:30
      And I'm
    • Lloyd Snook
    • 04:50:42
      I don't have a sense out of this current fiscal year's budget that there are, for example, any programs that we know are going to go away this year or next year, or that there are things that we tried and we're saying, oh my goodness, never again, and we're going to cut a million dollars out of this.
    • 04:51:00
      So I don't have a sense of that their expenditures were in making this current year that we don't figure are highly likely to get made next year.
    • Krisy Hammill
    • 04:51:12
      I think that's right.
    • 04:51:13
      I think that's one of the reasons like with ARP and near and surpluses, we're always like, it's not recurring.
    • 04:51:20
      Right.
    • 04:51:20
      And some of the are a few of the ARP things we did make recurring and they fell in the budget for 24.
    • 04:51:27
      And there's a few straggler things that will fall in for this year.
    • 04:51:30
      But I think that's the right way to think about it.
    • Sam Sanders
    • 04:51:33
      And we have acknowledged we have recognized all of our impacts for the safer grant.
    • 04:51:40
      with fire.
    • 04:51:41
      So there's not that item coming, all that has now also been recognized.
    • 04:51:46
      But nothing going away to your point.
    • 04:51:48
      Yes, that's normal that we don't really have anything disappearing out of necessity because we try to avoid making that likely.
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 04:51:59
      Seems to me that education, we're making significant investments in facilities.
    • 04:52:10
      and we're going to no doubt meet their request because we almost always do.
    • 04:52:16
      Walker is coming up.
    • 04:52:17
      Sounds like that's going to end up being on the CIP at least a few years from now.
    • 04:52:22
      KTEC was a major investment.
    • 04:52:24
      So I feel like with respect to the strategic outcome area of education, there are a lot of things we have done, we are doing, we will be doing.
    • 04:52:34
      I mean, I feel like
    • 04:52:40
      Two years ago we were in a position where it wasn't clear what we were going to do about facilities for them, for example, but we've made those decisions.
    • 04:52:49
      It's programmed in and it sounds like the amount of money they think they're going to get this year to fund their operations is moving down.
    • SPEAKER_14
    • 04:53:09
      And I think these are excellent questions because it is part of that discipline the city manager keeps on mentioning is that there is only so much flexibility.
    • 04:53:15
      So going through and talking about some of these other strategic areas.
    • 04:53:20
      So we've got organizational excellence.
    • 04:53:25
      A lot of that's going to be with competition.
    • 04:53:26
      There's going to be the collective bargaining impact as well, which is still ongoing.
    • 04:53:33
      So I need to discuss that so much further.
    • 04:53:36
      Education investments.
    • 04:53:39
      Let's talk a little bit more about some of these other areas where you see a desire to fund initiatives.
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 04:53:45
      Can I ask a quick question?
    • 04:53:46
      Sure.
    • 04:53:47
      So, IT investments in SAP investments, that I guess would be part of organizational excellence.
    • 04:53:58
      Do you see any of those potentially as bank busters this year, or just kind of... Bank buster?
    • Sam Sanders
    • 04:54:04
      No.
    • 04:54:05
      Significant?
    • 04:54:06
      Yes.
    • 04:54:08
      Yeah.
    • 04:54:09
      And significant in that it's higher than normal.
    • 04:54:12
      I wouldn't say significant in that something has dramatically changed.
    • 04:54:16
      No critical failures or anything like that, but just trying to maintain a higher level of security achieved during COVID, I think, is probably what we're seeing.
    • SPEAKER_14
    • 04:54:25
      That's already erupted.
    • 04:54:29
      Yeah, it's quite all right.
    • 04:54:30
      This is a time to ask these questions.
    • 04:54:35
      Here's a great example.
    • 04:54:36
      We were talking about the cap transition.
    • 04:54:40
      Zero funding for that.
    • 04:54:41
      It's priority for council.
    • 04:54:44
      How do we address that?
    • 04:54:45
      What does staff do in the meantime, knowing that there's no funding for that?
    • 04:54:49
      How does that continue to move forward?
    • 04:54:51
      And I'm just using that as an example.
    • 04:54:52
      I'm not trying to push that issue.
    • Sam Sanders
    • 04:54:54
      And I'll add to that just to help you in that moment.
    • 04:55:00
      And the reason for not planning is because you haven't made a decision.
    • 04:55:04
      You haven't made a decision because we're trying to get you all the information.
    • 04:55:09
      the pressure of everyone's desire that we do it quickly.
    • 04:55:12
      Now we're at this moment, it's a true crossroads because I only have two months left to fit it into the budget somehow or find at least an avenue for being able to do something because I don't want to leave you unable to do something.
    • 04:55:30
      But that something is probably less likely than anyone is appreciating but me.
    • 04:55:37
      because it's going to be tied to how much money is available.
    • 04:55:40
      And I think that's the sobering moment that I feel like I have to keep giving.
    • 04:55:45
      I'm looking at options right now and we've talked about some things that we might be able to try, but of course that's dependent on how these final numbers come back on the things that we're worried about.
    • 04:55:55
      But once we get some clarity on what is the priority around transportation, then we'll know
    • 04:56:02
      First step might be a little more measured and then where we then start thinking about how big it's going to be next year to make up for what we couldn't do this first year.
    • Natalie Oschrin
    • 04:56:12
      Yes.
    • 04:56:12
      At the budget public forum earlier this week, there was a chart on the wall that said 5% of greenhouse gas emissions for the city come from municipal functions and 95% come from the communities.
    • 04:56:28
      So I think something we all have to keep in mind while we decide the future of our bus system is that it has a relatively minimal impact on actual emissions in our community.
    • 04:56:41
      And if we want to make a significant difference, which I think we all do, we have to be clear right about that fact.
    • 04:56:47
      And the most important thing we can do is get cars off the road, however we can.
    • 04:56:55
      And
    • 04:56:56
      Maybe that's going to be the uncomfortable, uncomfortable fact of not switching to a entirely battery electric bus operated system because that's not going to be able to, we don't have the money to buy enough buses to make that possible.
    • 04:57:12
      When if we had enough money to buy more diesel buses in the near future, we would get more cars up the road.
    • 04:57:19
      But it doesn't stop with buses if it doesn't start with buses.
    • 04:57:23
      because yes, we're already, I know sidewalks are a big issue for you, which is great.
    • 04:57:27
      And I'm thrilled about that.
    • 04:57:29
      But people also crave the autonomy that they get with cars.
    • 04:57:32
      And so that's where we're going to need to invest heavily in bike infrastructure, protected bike infrastructure to make it safer for people to get around when they want, how they want without having to rely on any kind of vehicle with emissions, whether or not it's an e-bike or a
    • 04:57:50
      Traditional Mechanical Bank because e-bikes do plug in and that energy comes from somewhere and whatever, that's not zero emissions.
    • 04:57:57
      So we have to be realistic about that and know that, yes, well, it might be an amazing PR strategy to get several buses and drive in hydrogen from New Jersey.
    • 04:58:09
      It's not necessarily actually going to achieve our climate goals.
    • Michael Payne
    • 04:58:12
      I guess a really, really, really good point.
    • 04:58:18
      Well, I think
    • 04:58:19
      We also just have to be, whatever choice we make, I think we also have to be clear eyed that there are fixed infrastructure investments that will last 10 to 15 years.
    • 04:58:28
      So there's a tremendous amount of path dependency.
    • 04:58:31
      And at this moment, there's a unique opportunity in terms of the amount of federal money available that will phase out.
    • 04:58:37
      So yes, totally true.
    • Natalie Oschrin
    • 04:58:40
      We just can't buy a couple of electric buses and be like, okay, very problem solved.
    • 04:58:44
      Even if we get those 5% of municipal emissions off the road, there's still 91st.
    • 04:58:48
      5% of the car emissions.
    • 04:58:50
      So when people say, like, oh, I saw a bus drive by and it was gross because they had this huge pool of emissions, you can't also ignore the 35 cars we saw go by in that same span of time.
    • Michael Payne
    • 04:59:01
      Yeah, I think I think that's obviously true.
    • 04:59:04
      But I just don't think it's either or.
    • Lloyd Snook
    • 04:59:10
      So one of the if you're looking for priorities where we expect we're going to have to spend more money
    • 04:59:18
      The first one that comes to my mind is, what are we doing about homelessness?
    • 04:59:23
      The second thing that comes to mind is how are we dealing with career and technical education?
    • 04:59:31
      Because we've got the investment we've now made in K-Tech.
    • 04:59:34
      It only makes sense if we're going to couple that with a lot of other things going on.
    • 04:59:43
      And those are the two that come most immediately to mind as far as sort of promises we've already started making.
    • SPEAKER_14
    • 04:59:53
      Yeah, that's very helpful.
    • Krisy Hammill
    • 04:59:53
      Do we have little kids protesting out there?
    • Sam Sanders
    • 05:00:01
      They're having fun because the weather's so nice.
    • Natalie Oschrin
    • 05:00:03
      Feels like tear out.
    • SPEAKER_14
    • 05:00:06
      Different type of activity.
    • Natalie Oschrin
    • 05:00:13
      We all get to go on the merry-go-round after this, right?
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 05:00:15
      I'll join you.
    • 05:00:16
      One thing I'll say about the partnership component, I feel like
    • 05:00:22
      A lot of these things are moving in a positive direction mostly because we have people that are involved in all of these are
    • 05:00:35
      in the same direction, I feel like.
    • 05:00:37
      We are all in the same direction.
    • 05:00:39
      We're treating the people that are external to us as colleagues and partners.
    • 05:00:45
      I think you see that, for example, at the MPO and RTP meetings this week.
    • 05:00:49
      I think there's a lot of goodwill.
    • 05:00:52
      I've been happy to see the group of interactions I've observed with you, Mr. Richardson.
    • 05:00:56
      We just need to maintain that for many, many years.
    • 05:01:03
      and I'm confident we'll do that.
    • 05:01:06
      The one entity that continues to come up, and this is a little awkward for me because I work for the university, but I do feel like, you know, we talk a lot about highlight and this, that and the other and the university is doing a lot of work with the community and working groups and so on.
    • 05:01:26
      And I'm not trying to lay out a plan, right?
    • 05:01:28
      You know, I feel like there's a lot of good work happening at the staff level.
    • 05:01:34
      But I do feel like this might be the moment in which we either do something about this pilot notion or address this business of property taxes or not.
    • 05:01:49
      Because we've been talking about it for a couple of years and I don't have any inside information, but I will say that something of this magnitude would probably
    • 05:02:06
      and so I only say that when I look at partnerships really having some hard brass tacks conversations like are we going to talk about this in theory and just kind of at an ephemeral level or are we going to actually say okay what are you willing to do about this UDA?
    • 05:02:26
      The other one that comes up in that is the Regional Transit Authority you know there are conversations happening there
    • 05:02:36
      and I'm working with Diantha McKeel with the county as part of the RTP, you know, to advance the conversation but some of these things we just need, like we've been talking about the RTA forever, let's do the darn thing or not, you know, and I feel like that is another good one to put under partnerships is the RTA because it could be really
    • 05:03:02
      a game-changing in terms of transit, climate.
    • 05:03:08
      So I would put that higher on our list, the RTA, in having some level of, let's even chat with the universities there, are you willing to do this or are you willing to meet with the BOB, whatever, or let's stop talking about it.
    • Natalie Oschrin
    • 05:03:25
      Go more on that.
    • 05:03:26
      Sure.
    • 05:03:27
      Absolutely.
    • 05:03:28
      I mentioned this in my recent chat with something I've been thinking about for a while.
    • 05:03:33
      I talked with some fellow new counselors at VML conference about it.
    • 05:03:37
      They've been brewing in my head, ran up by them.
    • 05:03:41
      They liked it.
    • 05:03:42
      I mentioned it in my discussion with the Daily Progress last week.
    • 05:03:47
      I think we should be conscious of the terminology we use for our
    • 05:03:54
      payment sharing program with UVA, what we're trying to build and advocate for, because I think using the phrase pilot, which is for payment-alive taxes, as we all know, some people who might not know will feel like that sounds like a short-term thing, like it's a pilot program.
    • 05:04:09
      Again, it's catchy, but like, is it going to stick around?
    • 05:04:13
      It might not be clear.
    • 05:04:14
      It also gives us the ability to not limit ourselves to what the taxes could be if they're willing to even go above and beyond that.
    • 05:04:24
      So I just brainstormed, came up with the idea of a Commonwealth contribution.
    • 05:04:32
      And that is something we can present to them in a way where it's like, Hey, let's give you the chance to do something for the community from a let's do it.
    • 05:04:43
      Give them the opportunity to do the right thing before we storm with pitchforks, you know, because again, we can't legally compel them to do anything.
    • 05:04:50
      But if we say, Hey,
    • 05:04:52
      These are all the reasons why it would be beneficial to both of us, and give them the chance to do it from a position where it is a good partnership instead of a new antagonistic footing from the start, I think would be a good way to approach it with BOV, with anyone else who we might be in the negotiating process with.
    • 05:05:12
      So if everyone else wants brainstorm other ideas for what we could call it, it'd be welcome to that.
    • 05:05:18
      But I think choosing that language is a little... Come with contribution.
    • SPEAKER_14
    • 05:05:26
      is at the BML newly elected officials conference here recently.
    • Juandiego Wade
    • 05:05:33
      So I will meet, I'll talk with Sam when you and I meet with, we'll talk about the Commonwealth contribution and what that would look like and I will go for it.
    • SPEAKER_14
    • 05:05:49
      If I could, I'd like to go back.
    • 05:05:51
      That's excellent, probably.
    • 05:05:52
      Thank you for that.
    • 05:05:54
      I would like to go back to the unhoused impacts for the community and discussions, because that's been front burner for a lot of folks in this community for a while now.
    • 05:06:07
      There's a work group.
    • 05:06:08
      Is that correct, Mr. City Manager?
    • Sam Sanders
    • 05:06:11
      So we have a working group that Ashley is the chair of.
    • 05:06:18
      It's internal at this time.
    • 05:06:20
      The intention is to expand by pulling external members.
    • 05:06:24
      The recent effort to acquire the Avon Levy site is meant to be a beginning support to something, not being specific yet again, but there's assessment
    • 05:06:39
      to be performed.
    • 05:06:40
      So I guess if I had to look at it from framing it for this budget.
    • 05:06:46
      that is earmarked for homelessness.
    • 05:06:48
      You won't see it that just says homelessness because we don't know what that is yet.
    • 05:06:54
      What we are going to continue to do is internally determine what we think are some supports and we continue to do what we're already doing.
    • 05:07:02
      We're already writing, already awarding grants to the providers and our staff are doing various things that are supportive of that.
    • 05:07:11
      But there is no additional called out earmarked for homelessness per se.
    • 05:07:16
      at this time.
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 05:07:21
      Do we have a sense of if this... I guess if the purchase of this property goes through and all of that ends up happening at some point in the next three to six months hopefully we'll have some brainstorming about
    • Sam Sanders
    • 05:07:38
      Some.
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 05:07:39
      What a timeline, right?
    • Sam Sanders
    • 05:07:40
      Looks like some, but not really kind.
    • 05:07:42
      Yeah, lays out.
    • 05:07:44
      I mean, to build on that site, we're two years out at a minute.
    • 05:07:46
      I mean, it's going to take that long to put this kind of deal together.
    • 05:07:50
      And that's once we figured out what it is that we want to do.
    • 05:07:54
      So we're we're beyond two years, honestly, for a door opening of some kind.
    • 05:08:00
      But that doesn't mean that we can't achieve some other things.
    • 05:08:03
      And I think that's what the work group will continue to identify in the meantime.
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 05:08:06
      I guess part of that work group
    • 05:08:08
      One of the things that presumably they'll be tasked with is coming up with a plan for a plan in terms of that site.
    • Sam Sanders
    • 05:08:17
      Do you want to say anything?
    • 05:08:19
      You don't have to.
    • 05:08:21
      That's the answer, right?
    • 05:08:23
      Coming up with a plan for a plan.
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 05:08:24
      Yeah, in other words, I don't know if you've got to engage consultants or just the wisdom of the community or whatever.
    • 05:08:30
      And I've been clear in the interviews that I've done that
    • 05:08:37
      We think there will be a homeless component there, but there could be a clinic, there could be a, you know, a range of really cool things for the community.
    • Sam Sanders
    • 05:08:47
      I've been cautioned by my team to slow down and don't get ahead of them because they're working for me.
    • 05:08:53
      So that's accurate.
    • 05:08:55
      That's the whole point.
    • 05:08:57
      Doing something is a demonstration that there's something that can be done.
    • 05:09:00
      Right now, that demonstration is we can buy that lot.
    • 05:09:03
      And let's buy it and let's have it.
    • 05:09:05
      We're doing the internal work in the meantime.
    • 05:09:09
      But there's so many parts and pieces to it because we want to figure out what's the right thing to do.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 05:09:14
      And I think the important thing to remember is that
    • 05:09:18
      The internal group is not to, it's not at all to deny that we have experts in our community who day in and day out, including giving a shout out in case she's here in the shale of Washington who BRAC actually utilizes space in this, in city space for their offices.
    • 05:09:40
      We have individuals who are doing the work right now.
    • 05:09:43
      Individuals who are seeking care who have severe mental illness are being taken care of by a Region 10's path team.
    • 05:09:50
      Individuals who need somewhere to sleep tonight are being taken care of by our Salvation Army and Pacham.
    • 05:09:56
      Individuals who needed a meal a little while ago went to the Haven and were served.
    • 05:10:02
      So we have experts in the community.
    • 05:10:05
      What the internal group is saying is, where are maybe the gaps?
    • 05:10:08
      Because from someone who ran a nonprofit, you try to stay in your lane, right?
    • 05:10:13
      and one nonprofit can't and shouldn't do everything.
    • 05:10:16
      You see when they try, often it doesn't work out really well.
    • 05:10:18
      Something gets a little bit shortchanged, right?
    • 05:10:21
      So what we're doing is saying with our expertise, you've got individuals like Todd Niemeyer and Misty Graves and Sue Moffitt and Chief Kochis all sitting at a table with Rion Anthony, for example, and Parks and Rec saying, what are the gaps that maybe we see from things that your team does?
    • 05:10:41
      and what can we share with the city manager that may either be something that we feel we can do as a city organization that is within our lane or something that we feel maybe we can help support that may provide some relief for individuals who are not only currently facing homelessness but individuals who are housing insecure because oftentimes what we see in that system of care
    • 05:11:10
      Are there individuals who are what we call chronically homeless, which means you've been homeless for about 12 months.
    • 05:11:15
      But there are individuals who every day, through no fault of their own, fall into homelessness.
    • 05:11:19
      Most of us are one paycheck away from that.
    • 05:11:22
      And so there's also that area of helping people stay in their homes to stay stable so that our continuum of care that already exists
    • 05:11:32
      can work on those individuals who have not been able to rebound and find stability.
    • 05:11:37
      So those are the things that we are internally talking about is how can we be of best support to not only the team internally and the work that we are doing now, but to our external team recognizing the great work that they do every day and how can we help not hinder?
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 05:11:53
      That's really helpful.
    • 05:11:54
      Thank you for that.
    • 05:11:55
      I'm assuming out of all that effort, there'll come some sort of idea of what we might
    • 05:12:02
      I'm assuming one of the things we're going to come up with, this is pre-judging book I'm going to do, I'm going to assume that one of the things that will come out of that is that we do have a local need for some sort of physical building.
    • Sam Sanders
    • 05:12:17
      and we found a place where it might have permanent shelter beds.
    • 05:12:21
      How is the question, but we know we need permanent shelter beds year round because I think I've heard enough to have enough confidence that the larger public joins me in the notion that only planning for the winter is inadequate because homelessness does not end on a seasonal schedule.
    • 05:12:42
      So for that reason, permanent shelter beds of some quantity
    • 05:12:49
      that's probably what is missing.
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 05:12:50
      When I was, the expertise I was trying to speak to is not all your expertise, she just references it is amazing and important.
    • 05:12:58
      I'm talking the more narrow piece of like local architects or people that could help you think through what could you do at that site.
    • SPEAKER_10
    • 05:13:07
      And with that you can reach out actually to
    • 05:13:12
      So we of course would do that, but I'm taking the liberty to share from former nonprofit me.
    • 05:13:19
      So my very recent past life at the YMCA of Central Virginia, we run a domestic violence shelter.
    • 05:13:26
      Once you hit DV, you are homeless.
    • 05:13:28
      We also ran low income housing for single women who earned under $700 a month take home.
    • 05:13:35
      So that is what they had to spend on housing.
    • 05:13:37
      That was it.
    • 05:13:40
      When our organization went to make some determinations about our historic building, we looked at our colleagues, we looked at our sisters.
    • 05:13:47
      So for example, YWCA of Greensboro does not do domestic violence, they do homelessness work.
    • 05:13:53
      And one of the interesting things of their architecture is it has movable walls so that you could house a family, you could house someone who is in transition, you could house a single individual, you could house a couple.
    • 05:14:05
      and you don't have to separate people by gender or remove them from the person or partner that they're most comfortable with.
    • 05:14:13
      So yes, of course, there would be, when we got to that point, the engagement of building professionals.
    • 05:14:21
      But I also want to make sure that I highlight the engagement of our other colleagues, not only here, but across the Commonwealth and States of how are you building these where people feel as if they belong?
    • 05:14:34
      It is more than just a building.
    • 05:14:37
      It's do you feel safe?
    • 05:14:39
      Do you feel secure?
    • 05:14:40
      Do you feel supported?
    • 05:14:42
      And do you feel as if this is a place of respite so that you can get the rest you need to feel the next day that maybe you can ask that question about what's my next step?
    • 05:14:54
      Because ultimately, nationally, we would tell you, you end homelessness by housing people.
    • 05:15:02
      Housing First is what this community has decided it wants to do.
    • 05:15:08
      It's in their strategic plans, it's in everything that our continuum of care says.
    • 05:15:12
      So as a city, I can tell you that the internal team will lead with that because that is the desire of our professionals.
    • 05:15:20
      And that is also our own beliefs from being people who do direct human service.
    • 05:15:25
      Housing First is the answer.
    • 05:15:27
      And so we are leading from if Housing First is the answer,
    • 05:15:31
      what are suggestions we hear from our city manager that will of course include temporary shelter, but how do we get to housing first?
    • 05:15:40
      How do we get to functional zero and more than veterans in this community?
    • 05:15:44
      How can we as the city help foster the great work that they're doing?
    • 05:15:48
      But the ultimate goal is housing.
    • SPEAKER_14
    • 05:15:50
      Got it.
    • 05:15:52
      Thank you.
    • SPEAKER_14
    • 05:15:54
      Thank you.
    • 05:15:56
      While we're on the housing strategic outcome, we talked about
    • 05:16:03
      Land banks and trusts here earlier, is there any other housing topics or anything the council wants to chat with staff while we're here looking for directives or anything else?
    • 05:16:14
      Is there coming up with budget and other things?
    • Michael Payne
    • 05:16:17
      I think the major one is projects we've kind of verbally committed to but haven't yet funded.
    • 05:16:29
      Most immediately, probably the Cherry Avenue project, just because that was that affordable housing development was part of the rezoning approval in the agreement.
    • 05:16:40
      So having that funded is obviously critical in the budget.
    • 05:16:43
      And likewise, the redevelopment of West Haven as a major priority.
    • 05:16:52
      If you say committed verbally, what do you mean?
    • 05:16:55
      Well, I guess with the rezoning, I guess it was an agreement as part of the rezoning that the affordable housing development would be constructed, but I guess that just doesn't really have the... It doesn't have the financial component.
    • 05:17:07
      Right.
    • Sam Sanders
    • 05:17:08
      Got it.
    • 05:17:12
      Check and check.
    • 05:17:13
      We have both of those, so we're good.
    • SPEAKER_15
    • 05:17:17
      The very first meeting of this year
    • 05:17:22
      You know, it was interesting, we'd just gotten through all the stuff with the zoning and you felt like, okay, we got there and then the goalpost shifts, but welcome to my world.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 05:17:34
      Yeah, I guess one of the things that was brought
    • 05:19:19
      So, there's opportunities as they arise.
    • Juandiego Wade
    • 05:19:21
      So, you're right because I'm just thinking about what just last year was kind of unique with some opportunities like to purchase K-Tag for the dogwood.
    • 05:19:32
      That was another one.
    • 05:19:36
      You know, potentially what's happening in delivery property.
    • 05:19:39
      So, can we use the affordable housing funds for opportunities like that?
    • 05:19:48
      Your current cap?
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 05:19:50
      Is that what you're, that, is that the funding you're talking about?
    • 05:19:52
      Yes.
    • Sam Sanders
    • 05:20:32
      So we got to preserve the ability to create that reserve for that purpose even though right now we don't know exactly what it's for, but we know that there's going to be something good coming that we might want to be able to do.
    • Natalie Oschrin
    • 05:20:59
      So this might not quite fit what exercise we're doing, but I remember from a meeting at some point last year that I was watching, Michael actually asked if there was a menu of sorts.
    • Krisy Hammill
    • 05:27:23
      I think the situation we find ourselves in now, though, is that we're adding big projects.
    • 05:27:30
      And so that makes our five-year plan a little bit more concise.
    • 05:27:37
      But to your point, like there are other big things that will continue to come online, and how do we track those and manage the full picture?
    • 05:27:47
      It's tough because
    • 05:27:49
      Then you get other things mid-year, K-Tech, Dogwood, you know, all these things.