Central Virginia
City of Charlottesville
Human Rights Commission Meeting 10/19/2023
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Human Rights Commission Meeting
10/19/2023
Attachments
20231019 HRC Meeting Agenda (PDF).pdf
20231019 HRC Agenda Packet (PDF).pdf
20231019 Approved HRC Regular Meeting Minutes (PDF).pdf
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:10:08
All right, we'll do roll call.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:10:15
Jessica?
00:10:16
Here.
00:10:17
Ernest?
00:10:18
Here.
00:10:18
Jeanette?
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:10:19
Here.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:10:20
Mary?
00:10:21
Not here.
00:10:22
Wolfgang?
00:10:23
Here.
00:10:24
Kathryn?
SPEAKER_00
00:10:25
Here.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:10:26
Suzanne?
00:10:27
Here.
00:10:28
Andi?
SPEAKER_02
00:10:28
Here.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:10:33
Now we will recite our mission.
00:10:35
Act as a strong advocate.
00:10:48
So for members of the public who attend in person are welcome to provide public comment during matters by the public which we're heading to a section of the agenda.
00:10:58
The Commission is currently not receiving virtual public comment.
00:11:01
The Commission welcomes comments and questions and commits to listening carefully and thoughtfully to what is presented.
00:11:07
A maximum of 16
00:11:10
Public comment time slots allotted for the meeting.
00:11:13
Each speaker will have three minutes to speak.
00:11:16
The commission requests that members of the public refrain from engaging in personal attacks against commissioners and staff members and ask that comments and questions focus on matters related to human rights.
00:11:28
We don't have any person in person to do public comment, so we will jump down to the approval of minutes from 9.21 from our regular meeting.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:11:39
Great.
00:11:40
Any recommended amendments or changes to those?
00:11:43
Okay, we'll go ahead and do a vote.
00:11:48
Jessica?
00:11:50
I'm getting my stuff straight here.
00:11:51
Okay.
00:11:52
Ernest?
00:11:54
Yes.
00:11:56
Jeanette?
SPEAKER_02
00:11:57
Approve.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:11:59
Wolfgang?
SPEAKER_02
00:12:00
Abstain.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:12:03
Kathryn?
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:12:04
Approve.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:12:06
Suzanne?
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:12:07
Approve.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:12:08
Andy?
SPEAKER_02
00:12:09
Approve.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:12:18
And those are the minutes from our work session.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:12:24
Yep.
00:12:24
Here we go.
00:12:25
Jessica?
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:12:25
Approve.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:12:26
Ernest?
00:12:27
Abstain.
00:12:30
Jeanette?
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:12:31
Abstain.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:12:33
Mary?
00:12:34
Not here.
00:12:34
I keep reading her name anyway.
00:12:36
Wolfgang?
Kathryn Laughon
Member, Human Rights Commission
00:12:37
Approve.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:12:40
Kathryn?
Kathryn Laughon
Member, Human Rights Commission
00:12:41
I approve.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:12:42
Suzanne?
00:12:43
Approve.
00:12:44
Andy?
SPEAKER_02
00:12:45
Approve.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:12:47
I just laughed because it was such a short meeting.
00:12:50
It was, wasn't it?
00:12:52
We had some minutes.
00:12:55
All right, so it's now business matters and just chair updates.
00:13:01
I'd like us to take a one minute moment of silence just for what's happening in Israel and Gaza.
00:13:51
Thank you.
00:13:54
So the Office of Human Rights is actually going to be celebrating 10 years next month.
00:14:03
So we would like to put together a committee.
00:14:05
It could be two people where we don't have to post public comment.
00:14:10
And do you want to select those people now?
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:14:12
You certainly could, yeah.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:14:14
And the intent for coming together is just a working group to plan out what that celebration can look like and all that.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:14:27
And Lily and I will work with you on that for sure to make that happen.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:14:32
Of course I want to, but I want to give everyone else permission if they'd like to.
00:14:44
It's going to be Thursday, November, I don't know all the details, but Lily and Todd have more, but I know that it will be November 30th, which is a Thursday.
00:14:54
Keep in mind with our Thursday meetings.
00:14:59
I think the meeting will be to discuss what that can look like.
00:15:09
But it can only be, we would like to only have a working group of two people that we don't have to post public comment.
Wolfgang Keppley
Member, Human Rights Commission
00:15:14
Will it be a public event?
SPEAKER_03
00:15:35
But it will take the place of a meeting?
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:15:37
No, it's after our meeting.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:15:40
Did you want it to take place separately?
00:15:42
We were going to do it separately just so you could still have your meeting and celebrate in whatever way seems best.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:15:50
Ernest and I will be your working group.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:15:55
Thank you, and I guess we just set our first meeting already, so perfect.
00:15:59
Thank you both for taking out on another task, I appreciate it.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:16:04
That's really fun.
00:16:05
I was just thinking about how long it had been.
00:16:10
Yeah, that's kind of neat.
00:16:15
Office of Human Rights staff report?
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:16:18
Sure.
00:16:18
So first, I want to welcome Lily to the community outreach and administrative specialist position.
00:16:28
So glad to welcome you into that role after more than two years of being an intern.
00:16:33
You know the work.
00:16:35
We appreciate it.
00:16:37
Just wanted to let you know that in the monthly report that I put in the agenda, this is the third quarter of the year, so it also went to council.
00:16:47
You may have seen that in email.
00:16:49
And I try to include in that a reminder to council that you all are receptive to anything that they may want to throw your way in terms of
00:16:59
recommendations that they might seek from you on issues and so forth.
00:17:03
So we'll see.
00:17:04
I haven't gotten anything since sending it out, but I'd like to continue to put that reminder out there for them.
00:17:14
Good, good.
00:17:14
Thanks.
00:17:16
And the other thing I was going to mention was the 10 year thing.
00:17:19
So yeah, thank you.
00:17:21
Oh, sorry.
00:17:21
No, it's okay.
00:17:22
I just I was like, is there a third thing?
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:17:24
Oh, okay.
00:17:24
I thought you wanted me to.
00:17:26
No, it was perfect.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:17:26
I actually appreciated that you had more flair than I would just kind of stiffly mention it.
00:17:32
So great.
00:17:34
Lily, did you have things that you wanted to share?
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:17:37
The outreach report in your agenda packet is up to date and there are also in the agenda packet some upcoming outreach events that I'm planning to attend if any of you want to table with me, just let me know.
00:17:52
I will try to attend in mass.
SPEAKER_07
00:18:20
Can I ask that when we send out these, when you do the dates, can you add the day?
00:18:38
So a quick look.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:18:46
Emily, we're so happy to have you here.
00:18:49
I'm sorry, it's your turn, but can I say something?
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:18:55
Oh, you're the chair, of course.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:18:57
But it was also your report, so I can save it.
00:18:59
Please, go forth.
00:19:00
I'm done, actually, yeah.
00:19:02
So I love that these are here.
00:19:04
I know I am absent-minded, so I'm putting it on my calendar so it's real, it will exist.
00:19:09
But do you mind giving us a couple of days reminder email for them?
00:19:13
Sure, yeah, absolutely.
00:19:15
I personally feel bad that I walk away, I know it's there, and then I forget, and I apologize for that.
00:19:26
Reminders would be great.
Wolfgang Keppley
Member, Human Rights Commission
00:19:27
Like two days in advance, or one day in advance?
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:19:34
I think you can, can you set it, is it easy to do, can you do both in your outlook?
00:19:38
Like where it's, can set two reminders?
00:19:41
Like two days?
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:19:44
You could set, you could do a meeting invite and then you can always just go back to the meeting invite and hit send update and then it'll just send so you don't have to compose a new email.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:19:53
I know on Google you can do multiple, like you can make the same thing alert you multiple times.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:19:58
Oh, that's cool.
00:19:59
Wow, that's advanced Outlook.
00:20:01
I do that for birthdays.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:20:03
Oh, that's a good idea.
00:20:04
I don't know if that's on Apple, I don't know if it's Outlook featured.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:20:11
That's good to know.
00:20:12
We'll check it out.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:20:23
Did you have more that you wanted to share with Outreach?
Wolfgang Keppley
Member, Human Rights Commission
00:20:36
A lot of times, I'm looking at the data so I can kind of remember.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:21:04
Oh yeah, it was a big one.
00:21:08
Yeah, I can't recall.
00:21:10
We could look at the data and actually see who was contacting us.
00:21:15
I would say that a lot of times when you see a big uptick, it's like one or two people that have an intense need.
00:21:24
And so what I would say is that oftentimes that's not a case-related need.
00:21:28
It's probably a navigation and advocacy need.
00:21:32
This is one of those things where we're trying to, we've done a lot of internal assessment of how much of this stuff should we take on before we set a boundary here because we're going too far off.
00:21:45
So I think that's probably, in my guess, that's what you're seeing there.
00:21:49
Good question, though.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:21:51
But do you know in these numbers the uniqueness of them?
00:21:56
Or you don't count them as unique?
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:21:58
So what you guys don't see, because they
00:22:02
...has an individual entry with a name, a date, and a set of notes to go along with it.
00:22:09
So I could, yeah, we could easily, like from internally, we could go look and say, oh, we had, you know, 40 visits from, or 40, you know, phone calls, visits, whatever, from this particular individual.
00:22:21
And so, and you can sort the whole thing by that and read the whole story.
00:22:26
Yeah.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:22:27
So this 189 can be
00:22:30
There's like five different people that have made contact with 40 times.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:22:35
Exactly, yep, yep, exactly.
00:22:39
And so, yeah, for us it's, we're constantly trying to manage that a little bit, and I think it's been a learning process, which is why we track it now, because we were realizing people were just coming for things.
00:22:52
And again, sometimes that's gaps in
00:22:54
Services.
00:22:55
And so that's useful for us.
00:22:57
That's why we also track like the type of navigation and advocacy that we're doing.
00:23:00
So like, wow, this is a lot of, you know, resource navigation to one particular agency or some sort of liaison that we're serving as and so how do we how do we then adjust our relationship with that agency and or explore systemic solutions to increase services?
Wolfgang Keppley
Member, Human Rights Commission
00:23:23
Yeah.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:23:25
I remember before Victoria was hired, we were wanting to advocate with city council additional positions to help assist.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:23:35
That's a great question.
00:23:36
So that's a great, I should have added that to my report.
00:23:40
So yesterday, let's talk about the investigator position.
00:23:44
So right now the office has four positions, which is amazing because I know when Charlene was here,
00:23:52
She worked really hard just to get me up to full time.
00:23:55
And so to have four positions is amazing and funded.
00:24:00
We have an intake and administrative specialist.
00:24:03
That's Saad Khalifa.
00:24:05
But you may have met.
00:24:06
He doesn't come to the meetings just because that's not his role.
00:24:09
But then we have our community outreach and administrative specialist.
00:24:15
And that's Lily.
00:24:17
And now the investigator was the next position to hire for.
00:24:22
And so what we wanted to do was make that a position that someone could, because investigators typically require at least two years of investigative experience, like all investigator positions.
00:24:37
What we wanted to do was to create an opportunity for somebody who doesn't have the experience to train up.
00:24:41
And so it's an investigator in training position.
00:24:43
It just closed last night.
00:24:46
And I have a lot of applicants.
00:24:49
And so I'm screening those now.
00:24:51
And then we'll start scheduling interviews and so forth.
00:24:57
But the idea being that we wanted to
00:25:00
We wanted to give an opportunity for somebody to get into this who is passionate but couldn't access the training in some other fashion because we can get it through the EEOC through our partner at Resolute Mediation Arbitration.
00:25:15
He does a bunch of investigative training.
00:25:17
When we get the FAP, we have access to training.
00:25:19
So it's like, wow, why can't we be that source of training for somebody who can rise through the ranks?
00:25:24
Yeah, and ideally, I'm revealing the whole plan here is that I would like to get everybody in those trainings.
00:25:31
So Lily as well, like we're all going to make sure that we stay up to date on investigative trainings so that there's redundancy and continuity in our ability to handle cases.
00:25:42
So yeah, it's going to be fun.
00:25:44
It's great.
00:25:45
It's got a plan.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:25:46
So the bigger of what I wanted to propose is, you mentioned a lot, like you all do amazing work.
00:25:53
You know hiring staff kind of helps the mitigation but do you see in the near future where we can advocate or just help support the office to say like this is recurring like if there's funding that needs to be put in to help support the increase of numbers?
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:26:11
Sure I mean I think as far as like caseload stuff goes right now for for us it's it's
00:26:19
So much better than it was.
00:26:21
Having Saad at the front desk is amazing.
00:26:26
And so I think the fact that we have an intake person and once we have an investigation person, then I think we're going to be much better at serving the public because right now
00:26:37
You know, I'll be the first to admit like I think some cases have when we when we got super busy or other things were happening or it's I got to work on the budget.
00:26:46
I have to push the investigation work aside.
00:26:49
And so when we have an investigation person in there, we can we can be more efficient.
00:26:54
I don't know that we need additional staff at this point.
00:26:57
I think where we'll
00:26:59
I have to ask that question again is when we enter the FAP and to see what the caseloads look like at that point.
00:27:06
But right now I think it's exciting because we've never had a full house and now we're going to have a full house pretty soon and that's, we'll see how that goes.
00:27:16
So see how that rolls for a while and then make some decisions coming down.
00:27:20
But thank you.
00:27:21
I think to the other piece of your question, though,
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:27:24
It's still bringing it to City Council's attention.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:27:26
I mean, you do buy the quarterly reports, but... Yeah, and I think the other piece that I would love that, you know, I'm thinking also ahead to strategic planning for us for next year and what will the areas of focus be, I think I would love to
00:27:43
This is the first year we've collected such detailed data on navigation and advocacy and I think that may reveal gaps in systems and so that may inform what you choose to advocate for.
00:27:59
Just a cursory look, I'm sure that there's a lot of housing navigation there.
00:28:03
There may also be like mental health navigation stuff and so realizing where these trends are and people coming in the door and saying what does that mean and what could we do at a policy level to change that might be helpful.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:28:18
But we'll get there.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:28:19
When we crunch the numbers we'll get there.
00:28:26
And when we can give you bar charts and pie charts to aggregate it a little bit better than
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:28:33
That was really helpful last time.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:28:34
Good.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:28:45
I appreciate you adding up the work we've done, too.
00:28:48
It's nice to see it.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:28:50
Absolutely.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:28:51
You can feel like, for me, you haven't done a whole lot, but to see it on paper, you're like, OK, yeah.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:28:58
It's there.
00:28:59
And I wanted I thought that was a good yeah, an affirmation number one.
00:29:03
So you can say, Oh, look, we have come, we have been addressing the things that we said we were going to address, which is really wonderful.
00:29:09
And it's also to show counsel what you're doing, and the public.
00:29:13
So thanks for the work.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:29:15
Thank you for your work.
00:29:24
Now we're dropping down to the letter that we have to do the Martha rules with.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:29:36
Yeah.
00:29:36
Oh, you still have it.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:29:37
I still have it.
00:29:38
Maybe.
00:29:39
Wait, no, no.
00:29:40
I have to scroll back up again.
00:29:44
Yay.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:29:44
It's also right after the agenda in the digital version.
00:29:46
Yeah, no.
00:29:47
Yeah.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:29:48
But I have to scroll back up.
00:29:50
Totally.
Wolfgang Keppley
Member, Human Rights Commission
00:29:54
The second sentence, last word, accessibility.
00:30:18
Well, I actually think it means accessibility, as in
Kathryn Laughon
Member, Human Rights Commission
00:30:45
more housing that is accessible to all.
00:30:49
That's how I read it.
00:30:54
I think that language actually comes from Emily Dreyfus.
00:30:59
and the Click language.
00:31:02
And I honestly read it as because when we build more housing, much of it will have to conform to ADA.
00:31:11
And so it will be both more racial equity, but also more overall ADA accessibility.
00:31:19
That's how I read it.
00:31:20
That may not have been how it.
SPEAKER_02
00:31:27
Yeah, some of those, like the, but they give density bonuses and stuff, a lot of those come with requirements for ADA accessibility and things like that, so I think that would make sense, but it might be good to somehow make it a little clearer in the statement.
Wolfgang Keppley
Member, Human Rights Commission
00:31:57
Yeah, the linking logic wasn't fair for me between.
00:31:59
I see what you're saying now.
00:32:00
I'm like, I'm on board with it.
00:32:01
But it wasn't clear when I read it before.
Kathryn Laughon
Member, Human Rights Commission
00:32:04
Yeah.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:32:10
Any other clarifying questions?
Wolfgang Keppley
Member, Human Rights Commission
00:32:14
Last sentence, because we urge City Council to prioritize specific zoning codes, but we don't say what those specific zoning codes are, and that was confusing to me.
00:32:27
So I wanted to just get rid of the specific zoning codes that aim to make housing, because we're referencing the codes that aim to make housing more affordable, other than the specific ones that we don't talk about.
SPEAKER_00
00:32:46
We have to say specific and we talk about them but we're just saying that we don't talk about them.
Wolfgang Keppley
Member, Human Rights Commission
00:33:00
That's fair.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:33:02
So what do you want to change it to?
Wolfgang Keppley
Member, Human Rights Commission
00:33:04
Just get rid of specific.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:33:22
Well, we kind of did number two, but are there any other clarifying questions to be taken?
00:33:30
Okay, so now we're at the friendly amendments are offered and discussion is allowed only on the amendments.
00:33:35
The only one amendment that I wanted to add is that, of course, we'll add letterhead and then add what we add to most letters to city council is as commissioners will be asked per section two, four, I think that's the appropriate one, two, four, three, three,
00:33:50
C, Section 2435A2.
00:33:53
That's language in there to say that we're doing our role to city council.
00:34:05
Sorry.
00:34:06
I'm glad we all know what I'm talking about.
00:34:12
Are there any other amendments?
Kathryn Laughon
Member, Human Rights Commission
00:34:16
Did we resolve the accessibility
Wolfgang Keppley
Member, Human Rights Commission
00:34:20
If I was the only one that's confused then I see what you mean by it and I like the original intent.
00:34:28
I don't have any recommendations to make it more clear.
SPEAKER_02
00:34:31
So I guess I was thinking if it's maybe state like and provide more accessible units, housing units or something like that where it's...
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:34:45
So you're recommending as an amendment to change and more accessibility to
SPEAKER_02
00:34:50
And provide more accessible units.
SPEAKER_00
00:35:00
Are we talking specifically about ADA?
00:35:02
So we could say more ADA accessibility or more accessible units.
Kathryn Laughon
Member, Human Rights Commission
00:35:28
I was just going back to the coalition letter that we referenced to make sure that when I clumsily rewrote the language that that is indeed what was meant.
00:35:40
So I'm confirming accessibility in the ADA sense is what was intended and yes we should probably make that slightly more clear.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:35:56
I believe the verbiage was more ADA accessible units.
Kathryn Laughon
Member, Human Rights Commission
00:36:26
I feel like, sorry, I feel like units is maybe too specific because it also addresses accessibility in terms of transit, sidewalks, and all of that.
00:36:35
So, um, so, uh, yeah, maybe that will just fix it.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:36:48
So can someone say that sentence fully?
SPEAKER_02
00:36:51
Yeah, we're just adding ADA between more and accessibility.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:36:54
Okay, perfect.
00:36:56
So any more amendments?
00:37:00
I had amended to remove specific from the last sentence, but I wanted to put that in as a formal amendment.
00:37:07
Thank you.
00:37:07
So we have three amendments.
00:37:10
Adding ADA, taking out the specific and
00:37:15
Just adding the letterhead in our role as City Council.
Kathryn Laughon
Member, Human Rights Commission
00:37:19
Any other amendments?
00:37:22
No amendment but I didn't attach the referenced letter to the email that I sent and we need to do it so I am sending you that PDF.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:37:33
Okay, so the amendment though is to add the letter.
Kathryn Laughon
Member, Human Rights Commission
00:37:36
The letter says the letter is attached.
00:37:41
The amendment is to remember to attach the letter it says to attach.
00:37:54
But no further changes other than those two.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:38:01
Do you want to reference the letter in our letter?
00:38:05
We do already.
00:38:07
Okay, any other amendments?
Wolfgang Keppley
Member, Human Rights Commission
00:38:16
If it's not clear where the letter is coming from, our letter says that we support the coalition letter, but should we call out the organization too?
00:38:26
That way it's like very clear.
Kathryn Laughon
Member, Human Rights Commission
00:38:27
It's not an organization though.
00:38:29
It is like 25 organizations that signed on to it.
SPEAKER_03
00:38:36
Could we, I have an amendment that we put in parentheses C attached at the end of that sentence.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:38:44
So we're adding an amendment
00:38:47
to this sentence.
00:38:49
In particular, the Human Rights Commission supports the coalition letter, parentheses, attached, that was sent to the City Council in the Planning Commission on July 4th.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:39:01
Sure.
00:39:01
The attached coalition letter?
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:39:03
Yeah, or, yeah, even better.
00:39:07
Supports the attached coalition letter.
SPEAKER_00
00:39:11
But then we also, in the second paragraph,
00:39:14
State additional detail can be found in the coalition letter which is attached, so that may be duplicative at this point.
Wolfgang Keppley
Member, Human Rights Commission
00:39:25
We add the first attached, we get rid of the second attached.
00:39:29
Exactly.
SPEAKER_00
00:39:32
It's only attached so many times.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:39:34
This is perfect.
00:39:34
We are going to do this mark the rule of orders.
00:39:36
We're not going to move on until we're finished.
Kathryn Laughon
Member, Human Rights Commission
00:39:41
Thumbs up with confidence.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:39:44
I don't know how to keep reiterating.
00:39:47
You're doing great.
00:39:47
This is good.
00:39:50
This is proper wordsmithing.
00:39:51
Be sure no more edits or amendments.
Wolfgang Keppley
Member, Human Rights Commission
00:39:58
That's hands off, not hands off.
00:40:00
It's confusing.
00:40:01
I was like, hands off.
00:40:02
I was like, oh no, two hands.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:40:04
I surrender.
00:40:05
This is too much.
00:40:06
All right, number three of the market rules is speakers in favor of the proposal present their views.
00:40:14
Does anybody?
00:40:15
Okay, speakers opposed to the proposal present their views.
00:40:21
General discussion, debate, there's none.
00:40:23
Okay, first vote is taken.
00:40:25
People can vote in favor of the proposal or can live with the proposal or opposed to the proposal.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:40:32
Is this just the straw poll vote or is this the actual vote?
00:40:38
How do we?
00:40:39
I have to remember myself.
00:40:42
Okay.
Kathryn Laughon
Member, Human Rights Commission
00:40:42
We don't have any speakers in opposition.
00:40:44
Do we need a straw poll vote?
00:40:45
So you could just do a full vote, right?
00:40:47
Let's do that.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:40:50
Ready for the full vote?
00:40:51
Yes.
00:40:51
Okay, here we go.
00:40:53
Jessica.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:40:53
In favor of the proposal.
00:40:55
Excellent.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:40:56
Ernest.
00:40:57
In favor of the proposal.
00:41:00
And Jeanette.
SPEAKER_03
00:41:01
In favor.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:41:03
Wolfgang.
SPEAKER_03
00:41:04
In favor.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:41:05
Kathryn.
SPEAKER_03
00:41:06
In favor.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:41:07
Suzanne?
SPEAKER_00
00:41:08
In favor.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:41:09
Andy?
00:41:14
Passes.
00:41:30
Question.
00:41:32
Do you need support to do those edits and get it on Letterhead or do you guys feel comfortable making the edits?
00:41:40
I wrote down what they were, but just by way of administrative support, let us know what you want and we can do it.
Kathryn Laughon
Member, Human Rights Commission
00:41:53
Do you want me to take it from here?
00:41:55
I assumed you would because you are the chair and have to sign it.
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:42:00
Jessica, do you want us to do those edits, then send you a final version for Signature?
Kathryn Laughon
Member, Human Rights Commission
00:42:04
I mean, I can do the edits, but yeah.
00:42:06
I can do those right now.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:42:07
You might have to do the edits and then send it to me.
00:42:09
And then I can just add the letterhead.
00:42:12
And then the word of the city council.
00:42:15
Cool.
00:42:15
Did I reference the right one?
Todd Niemeier
Office of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
00:42:18
Probably.
00:42:18
I'd have to look myself.
00:42:19
I have it here.
SPEAKER_00
00:42:20
We can talk offline.
00:42:21
OK.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:42:29
Okay, so we want to see if we want to confirm for our next work session on 1102-23.
00:42:36
The only things that Todd will be virtual or out of the office.
00:42:42
Do we need that meeting?
00:42:47
Any current things we're actively letters we're writing?
00:42:53
Do we need that meeting?
00:42:57
Could be.
00:42:58
So no?
00:42:59
Okay.
00:43:02
So confirm we won't need the work session on 11-02-23.
00:43:05
And is there any new business?
00:43:09
I have none.
Wolfgang Keppley
Member, Human Rights Commission
00:43:13
All right.
00:43:16
Some of that's from Charlottesville DSA to promote.
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:43:22
That's the time for that.
00:43:23
No, can you wait until Commissioner updates?
00:43:26
If you have no public comments, we have no public in-person, then we're going to go to Commission Updates.
Wolfgang Keppley
Member, Human Rights Commission
00:43:37
Okay, Housing, Care, and Homelessness in Charlottesville.
00:43:40
It's an event that's hosted by The Haven.
00:43:42
DSA is also promoting it.
00:43:43
It's going to be on November 13th, on Monday, from 7 to 8.30, and it will be in-person.
00:43:50
I can send out the event and the RSVP details if you'd like.
00:43:56
There's also going to be an open house.
00:44:00
I don't have all the details on this because it's just a screenshot that somebody sent me through the DSA.
00:44:08
An open house at Marcus Street Park for the residents that are hosting it.
00:44:12
I think from 10, about 12 to 2 p.m. What date?
Jessica Harris
Chair, Human Rights Commission
00:44:19
Is that just Saturday, the 21st?
00:44:25
Next steps are that I will send this letter to City Council and Ernest and I will meet to start planning for 10 year anniversary for the office.
00:44:58
All right, we will adjourn at 712 p.m.