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Human Rights Commission Regular Meeting   5/18/2023

Attachments
  • 20230518 HRC Regular Meeting Agenda (PDF).pdf
  • 20230518 HRC Agenda Packet (PDF).pdf
  • 20230518 Approved HRC Regular Meeting Minutes (PDF).pdf
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:04:13
      I knew it was like two, somewhere.
    • Kathryn LaughonMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:04:39
      No?
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:04:41
      No Jessica?
    • Kathryn LaughonMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:04:45
      Mary's there?
    • Andrew OrbanMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:04:59
      Hello Ernest.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:05:11
      Some sort of a music group it looked like.
    • Andrew OrbanMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:05:14
      I don't know who.
    • Kathryn LaughonMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:05:17
      Yeah, I didn't expect it to be full.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:05:37
      That's unusual.
    • Suzanne LynnMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:05:38
      Yeah, apparently.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:05:41
      It's funny because I was listening to that hurricane book that Josh Prun.
    • 00:05:48
      You know Henry Graybar?
    • 00:05:51
      And I was literally listening to that on the way down and I could pass in the garage as long as I could walk.
    • Andrew OrbanMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:05:59
      There's a hurricane that makes it a little funky.
    • 00:06:02
      That could mean it could mean a lot of things.
    • 00:06:05
      I was like I'm sure the fucking garage is going to be...
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:06:09
      Not a problem for those on two wheels.
    • Ernest ChambersVice Chair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:06:13
      You know what, both of y'all.
    • Kathryn LaughonMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:06:23
      Actually, we're not on camera, are we?
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:06:26
      Are we on camera?
    • 00:06:29
      I can see you.
    • Andrew OrbanMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:06:30
      Look, there's Mary.
    • 00:06:34
      Hey, Mary!
    • 00:06:34
      Alright.
    • Andrew OrbanMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:06:38
      No.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:06:41
      We won't have that.
    • 00:06:42
      There's not that many people.
    • 00:06:44
      Jessica would be remote.
    • 00:06:45
      Oh really?
    • 00:06:47
      Okay.
    • 00:06:48
      And I believe that's what she said.
    • 00:06:49
      Let me just confirm.
    • 00:06:52
      Victoria's not here.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:06:53
      Let me just confirm.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:07:01
      Hopefully she's not struggling to get in or something.
    • Andrew OrbanMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:07:12
      This is Mike.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:07:14
      Oh no, that was June.
    • 00:07:15
      I don't think she...
    • 00:07:15
      This is my bike to work that good.
    • Kathryn LaughonMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:07:18
      I just got back from Runo.
    • 00:07:22
      Yeah.
    • 00:07:22
      Which was lovely for running, but I was very sad.
    • 00:07:25
      I missed all the ice cream.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:07:31
      Actually, she will be here.
    • 00:07:32
      You didn't have Ken.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:07:34
      Oh, thank you.
    • 00:07:35
      More paper towel.
    • 00:07:45
      How are you doing?
    • Ernest ChambersVice Chair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:07:48
      I'm doing okay.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:07:48
      When is school done?
    • Ernest ChambersVice Chair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:07:50
      First week of June.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:07:54
      Okay.
    • 00:07:59
      Anybody need one of these yet?
    • 00:08:02
      No?
    • 00:08:02
      You power walked?
    • Kathryn LaughonMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:08:04
      You can't park in the garage.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:08:16
      Do you need a parking ticket?
    • 00:08:18
      I'm just kidding.
    • SPEAKER_09
    • 00:08:19
      Yeah I'm okay for now.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:08:22
      Thanks.
    • 00:08:31
      Ernest, did you hear anything from Jessica?
    • Ernest ChambersVice Chair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:08:34
      Other than I saw that she was participating virtually.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:08:39
      I think that's at a later date.
    • 00:08:41
      I hadn't heard anything from her today.
    • 00:08:46
      I think she's going to be here.
    • 00:08:47
      I believe so.
    • 00:08:51
      I didn't see anything to the contrary.
    • 00:08:52
      I didn't see anything.
    • 00:08:54
      I was getting confused with her request for a future meeting.
    • 00:09:00
      Just going through email to make sure Yeah, ad hoc and regular in the month of June We'll give it a few more minutes
    • Andrew OrbanMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:09:32
      Do you take the full summer off?
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:09:41
      Can you then use that to populate whatever calendars you actually use?
    • Ernest ChambersVice Chair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:09:45
      Oh yeah, I usually take the full summer off.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:09:48
      Go to a couple of conferences and that type of thing.
    • 00:09:53
      Don't work summer school and all that stuff.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:09:56
      I'll keep it up.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:09:57
      It's nice.
    • 00:10:00
      It's also nice to have a couple months off, or a few weeks off, or whatever, yeah.
    • 00:10:04
      You do get those.
    • 00:10:05
      I figured, I didn't want to overdo it, but I figured you get those.
    • 00:10:08
      It works, though.
    • 00:10:09
      You always get the Zoom reminders, but you never really got a calendar placeholder.
    • 00:10:13
      I figured most people were probably just marking it once they got the Zoom reminder.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:10:16
      I love it.
    • 00:10:18
      I'll keep it up, yeah.
    • 00:10:19
      It's so helpful.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:10:20
      Very good.
    • 00:10:28
      It's big and we cut as much as we could out of it and it was still big.
    • 00:11:00
      Yeah.
    • 00:11:03
      We've been trying to just like make it as streamlined as possible for the public.
    • Suzanne LynnMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:11:14
      It also demonstrates how much is going on.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:11:18
      I did learn that you can take PDFs and you can make the table of contents interactive where you click on the thing and it goes to the page, but if you do that it makes it inaccessible from an ADA perspective, so we just ditched it.
    • 00:11:34
      You can add alternative text to every index and explain what it indexes to, or you can just not do it.
    • 00:11:50
      All right, we have to write a description for every graphic.
    • 00:11:53
      We did that and then we started indexing it and it was like, boom, you need to do it for every indexing.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:12:00
      Guess we can do that.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:12:04
      Hello, Jeanette.
    • 00:12:06
      Are y'all called to order?
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:12:07
      Nope.
    • 00:12:08
      Oh, really?
    • 00:12:08
      We're kind of in tight for Jessica.
    • Wolfgang KeppleyMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:12:14
      I waved at you Andy as he was biking.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:12:21
      Do you need this?
    • Wolfgang KeppleyMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:12:21
      I feel very envious about it.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:12:25
      You're welcome to try my e-bike.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:12:30
      Oh my.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:12:30
      I would but it takes three hours for me to get my bike.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:12:33
      We'll announce that right?
    • 00:12:34
      That's why I just walk on it.
    • 00:12:35
      Thank you.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:13:01
      Vice Chair Chambers, what do you think we should do?
    • 00:13:11
      Does that hurt?
    • 00:13:13
      I don't know.
    • 00:13:14
      Yes.
    • 00:13:15
      Good.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:13:16
      All we had to do was ask.
    • 00:13:23
      You didn't have to respond.
    • Wolfgang KeppleyMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:13:25
      It's like opening a book.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:13:51
      I meant to put labels on the sandwiches, but I forgot.
    • 00:13:54
      You guys figured it out, though.
    • 00:13:55
      There were some labels.
    • 00:13:56
      There's some sort of label.
    • Suzanne LynnMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:13:57
      It's pretty big, and I couldn't read the last one.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:14:00
      Yeah.
    • 00:14:00
      If you've had, it's like a chicken feather pig, a caprese, and a turkey crowbar.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:14:05
      Literally, you couldn't read the last one, yeah.
    • 00:14:09
      Wait, it's OK. That's big, but I couldn't read.
    • 00:14:11
      I know.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:14:11
      That was the most cryptic one, and I shouldn't.
    • 00:14:14
      Yeah.
    • 00:14:15
      I meant to tell everyone, but I did not remember.
    • Jeanette Abi-NaderMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:14:25
      and the rest of them.
    • 00:15:00
      because of that situation at the school.
    • 00:15:03
      Yeah, it just wasn't the right time.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:15:20
      I just saw that website.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:15:21
      We need the first collaboration.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:15:23
      That works out for you, though.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:15:29
      How long were they in jail?
    • 00:15:35
      A couple hours.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:15:56
      Oh yeah, this got full.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:16:01
      Yeah, because of this event.
    • 00:16:03
      I did not either.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:16:17
      Did you say you sent me a message?
    • 00:16:20
      Maybe you sent it to my personal cell.
    • 00:17:03
      Do you want to give me a selfie?
    • 00:17:14
      Yes.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:17:15
      I don't know if I can do that.
    • 00:17:26
      I don't know.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:17:35
      All right, we will officially call our meeting to order at 644 p.m.
    • 00:17:42
      Roll call.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:17:48
      Jessica.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:17:51
      Here.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:17:53
      Ernest.
    • Ernest ChambersVice Chair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:17:54
      Here.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:17:55
      Jeanette.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:17:55
      Here.
    • SPEAKER_09
    • 00:17:57
      Mary.
    • 00:17:58
      I'm here.
    • 00:17:59
      Thank you for allowing me to participate virtually.
    • 00:18:02
      I'm homesick, so didn't want to infect you all.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:18:06
      We appreciate that.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:18:06
      If you feel better.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:18:08
      Yeah, if you feel better.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:18:09
      Wolfgang.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:18:10
      Here.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:18:11
      Kathryn.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:18:12
      Here.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:18:13
      Suzanne.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:18:13
      Here.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:18:15
      Andy.
    • Andrew OrbanMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:18:16
      Here.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:18:17
      And we don't see Lyndele, but maybe we'll see her.
    • 00:18:21
      So we'll hold back.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:18:24
      All right, let's recite our mission.
    • 00:18:27
      Act as a strong
    • 00:18:31
      For members of the public participating virtually if you experience if you experience technical difficulties you may call 434
    • 00:18:47
      97031115, that's 434-970-3115 and a staff person will assist you.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:18:57
      And the staff person that posted this, posted it incorrectly, it's now 3027 because it needs to go to my phone.
    • 00:19:03
      Sorry.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:19:03
      Can you recite it?
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:19:04
      Yep, that would be 9703027, 434-970-3027.
    • 00:19:13
      My error on the changing the agenda.
    • 00:19:18
      Okay, do we have any public comment?
    • Andrew OrbanMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:19:44
      We have one participant if you'd like to raise your hand or if you'd like to speak now, click raise hand in the Zoom webinar or press star nine.
    • 00:20:00
      Okay, no hands raised at this time.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:20:05
      Ma'am, do you have a comment?
    • 00:20:07
      All right, so then there's no commission response.
    • 00:20:11
      Now we're going on to our minutes to approve.
    • 00:20:15
      So we need to approve February 2nd HRC committee meeting minutes.
    • SPEAKER_09
    • 00:20:26
      Sorry, Jessica, did you say February?
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:20:28
      Yes, ma'am.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:20:30
      Okay.
    • 00:20:31
      We had a lot of backlog of minutes.
    • 00:20:33
      Okay, I just want to make sure I... And then we forgot to circle back and hit all the minutes that we didn't do before.
    • 00:20:39
      Okay.
    • 00:20:40
      We ready for a vote on that?
    • 00:20:42
      Okay.
    • 00:20:45
      Let's see, here we go.
    • 00:20:46
      Jessica.
    • 00:20:47
      Abstain.
    • 00:20:50
      Ernest.
    • 00:20:51
      Yes.
    • 00:20:53
      Jeanette.
    • Jeanette Abi-NaderMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:20:54
      Yes.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:20:56
      Mary.
    • 00:20:57
      Yes.
    • 00:20:59
      Wolfgang.
    • Wolfgang KeppleyMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:20:59
      Yes.
    • Ernest ChambersVice Chair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:21:01
      Kathryn.
    • Wolfgang KeppleyMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:21:01
      Yes.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:21:03
      Suzanne.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:21:04
      Abstain.
    • 00:21:05
      Andy.
    • Andrew OrbanMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:21:06
      Sorry, is this the February?
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:21:07
      February 2nd.
    • 00:21:09
      February 2nd.
    • 00:21:10
      Let me switch screens real quick.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:21:12
      February 2nd.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:21:14
      Committee meeting.
    • Andrew OrbanMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:21:15
      I don't believe I abstained.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:21:18
      Yeah, I don't think, you were not there.
    • 00:21:21
      Okay.
    • Ernest ChambersVice Chair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:21:24
      All right.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:21:26
      Now we need to approve February 16th.
    • 00:21:29
      Yes, I'm saying February 16th, 2023 HRC regular meeting minutes.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:21:34
      All right.
    • 00:21:36
      Jessica.
    • 00:21:36
      Abstain.
    • 00:21:38
      Ernest.
    • Ernest ChambersVice Chair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:21:40
      Yes.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:21:42
      Jeanette.
    • Wolfgang KeppleyMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:21:43
      Approve.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:21:45
      Mary.
    • 00:21:47
      Yes.
    • 00:21:49
      Wolfgang.
    • Wolfgang KeppleyMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:21:49
      Yes.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:21:51
      Kathryn.
    • Wolfgang KeppleyMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:21:52
      Abstain.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:21:54
      Suzanne?
    • Wolfgang KeppleyMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:21:55
      Abstain.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:21:57
      Andy?
    • Andrew OrbanMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:21:57
      Yes.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:22:02
      Okay.
    • 00:22:02
      Now we have to approve the March 2nd, 2023 HRC committee meeting minutes.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:22:10
      And Jessica?
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:22:12
      Approve.
    • 00:22:15
      Ernest?
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:22:20
      You were present.
    • SPEAKER_09
    • 00:22:23
      Yes.
    • 00:22:24
      I just looked it up.
    • 00:22:25
      Yeah, I'm looking at it, yeah.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:22:28
      Jeanette.
    • 00:22:28
      Abstain.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:22:31
      Mary.
    • 00:22:33
      Yes.
    • 00:22:34
      Wolfgang.
    • Wolfgang KeppleyMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:22:35
      Yes.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:22:36
      Kathryn.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:22:37
      Abstain.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:22:39
      Suzanne.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:22:40
      Abstain.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:22:42
      Andy.
    • Andrew OrbanMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:22:43
      Abstain.
    • Ernest ChambersVice Chair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:22:44
      Okay.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:22:48
      Next we have to approve the April 20th, 2023 HRC regular meeting minutes.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:22:56
      And here we go.
    • 00:22:57
      Jessica?
    • Jeanette Abi-NaderMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:22:58
      Approve.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:23:00
      Ernest?
    • 00:23:00
      Approve.
    • 00:23:02
      Jeanette?
    • Jeanette Abi-NaderMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:23:03
      Abstain.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:23:05
      Mary?
    • 00:23:06
      Abstain.
    • 00:23:09
      Wolfgang?
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:23:09
      Yes.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:23:11
      Kathryn?
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:23:12
      Yes.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:23:13
      Suzanne?
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:23:14
      Stane.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:23:16
      Andy?
    • Andrew OrbanMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:23:16
      Yes.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:23:21
      Do we do it?
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:23:22
      We do it.
    • 00:23:24
      Lyndele is on her way.
    • 00:23:25
      She probably experienced the same thing I did, but we need to move seating for her.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:23:30
      Yeah, we can do that.
    • 00:23:32
      I'll have the table and just sit on the end.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:23:42
      Let me just.
    • 00:24:13
      So Chair updates, I don't have anything because we have a long report for Todd to go over so I will yield my time to Todd to go over the staff report.
    • 00:24:23
      And then the annual report.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:24:25
      Sure, and as far as monthly staff report, I didn't do the usual monthly thing because I didn't want to overwhelm you with yet more numbers because since we have the 2022 annual report.
    • 00:24:38
      Not many things to update you with generally.
    • 00:24:43
      Victoria's still out.
    • 00:24:44
      She's going to be coming back by next week.
    • 00:24:47
      So that's a good thing.
    • 00:24:48
      So we'll be a team again.
    • 00:24:50
      I think, yeah, not much else to share with you.
    • 00:24:53
      We've just been
    • 00:24:54
      Doing the things that we do.
    • 00:24:56
      Had some complex navigational things lately that have taken up some time, but we're holding it together okay, so that's good.
    • 00:25:05
      As far as the 2022 report, it's included in there.
    • 00:25:10
      I think I mentioned in the email that you've seen the commission pieces of that.
    • 00:25:15
      We may have made a few edits after that just to clean up some stuff, but it should be basically the same as what you saw in the retreat.
    • 00:25:22
      The rest of it is just a summary of the data that you see all year in the monthly report, just broken out in new ways to show comparative things and give some analysis.
    • 00:25:35
      And then of course we have some executive summaries at the beginning and a conclusion thing at the end.
    • 00:25:42
      I don't need to go through the whole thing unless you really want me to.
    • 00:25:47
      My question would be do you have questions or suggestions for changes?
    • 00:25:51
      Where this sits now is it's on the process for getting this on council's agenda and this is kind of a new thing is that we post it to civic clerk which is the same system we use for our own
    • 00:26:02
      Public postings, but there's a there's an approval process that takes about a month to get it on council agenda So it's already in that approval process But that doesn't mean that we can't make edits if we need to But I should probably get those in there pretty quickly.
    • 00:26:16
      I wanted to give you guys a chance to look at it so Are there any highlights that we need to
    • 00:26:25
      I think if you wanted to look at takeaways, I think we discussed it in the retreat, but if there's any questions you have, I did make a summary, I think the chart, the summary chart was also included in the retreat thing, I don't remember off the top of my head.
    • 00:26:42
      There is kind of a key takeaways section in the executive summary for both the HRC and the OHR.
    • 00:26:50
      I would look at those as kind of like a guiding thing if you had any questions about the particulars there.
    • 00:26:58
      But again,
    • 00:27:00
      I don't think there's any surprises.
    • 00:27:02
      You probably noticed that a lot of the things are the same.
    • 00:27:04
      More incoming contacts, 60% more than in the history of the office just last year.
    • 00:27:10
      Or I'm sorry, 60% more than the previous year just last year.
    • 00:27:14
      So that was a lot.
    • 00:27:17
      Housing still remains the primary thing that we hear about, second to employment and then public accommodation, that kind of stuff.
    • 00:27:27
      We were also tracking navigation contacts that don't involve a complaint, but just people trying to get
    • 00:27:34
      guidance through complex resource systems and we're increasing that tracking this year with also classifying the specific navigational service and the time spent doing it just so we can provide that data to city managers and say if we're doing this maybe that could be helped by another organization or department just to inform that about where are there service gaps in the system.
    • 00:28:02
      I don't know.
    • 00:28:03
      Any other things like that?
    • 00:28:05
      That's a very, very high level overview of the takeaways from the office.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:28:13
      There we are.
    • Ernest ChambersVice Chair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:28:14
      Yeah.
    • 00:28:14
      Do we also track collaborations with other services and things like that?
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:28:20
      Yeah.
    • 00:28:21
      So that's in one of the later sections there.
    • 00:28:23
      We had like 57 different collaborators in 2022.
    • 00:28:26
      And those are all listed in there.
    • 00:28:30
      I guess we're gonna still use the same tracking system for that's like outreach type collaboration with in terms of referrals that's also tracked kind of separately because it's service provision rather than outreach and in collaboration that way
    • 00:28:45
      We are going to increase the tracking component for referrals by adding every single, right now we do like the five primary referral agencies like Legal Aid Justice Center, Central Virginia Legal Aid, Attorney General's Office of Civil Rights, EDOC, and then the Virginia Fair Housing Office to see, those are like our five most similar thing, collaborators, but
    • 00:29:10
      We do a lot of referrals through the navigation and advocacy piece to other organizations that we don't track the numbers on.
    • 00:29:17
      So in 2023, right now, we have added them to this master spreadsheet list.
    • 00:29:23
      And so now we'll actually track the numbers that go to all of the different organizations so we can report on that as well.
    • Suzanne LynnMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:29:29
      Awesome.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:29:29
      Yeah, definitely, definitely watching all that stuff.
    • 00:29:32
      Because it informs for us, like,
    • Ernest ChambersVice Chair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:29:36
      What are we doing right because we need we do it kind of at the rapid pace that we do and then it's really helpful to go back and go okay when the dust settles what did we just do and what are the trends right so you know and I think it'll help inform us as well as We're trying to champion behind different organizations that are doing things here in the city true if we know what's going on and where the trends are and things like that
    • Kathryn LaughonMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:30:07
      Do you think the increase in demand for your services is related to better outreach or do you think it represents a real uptick in mostly housing I guess?
    • 00:30:22
      Is it a post-pandemic?
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:30:25
      I think there was definitely a surge post-pandemic.
    • 00:30:28
      Obviously, when we reopened the office in person back in June of 21, it was like, I think it doubled and tripled almost instantly.
    • 00:30:37
      In 2022, I actually don't know why it was so much higher than 2021.
    • 00:30:45
      I really don't.
    • 00:30:48
      I think that part of what we're seeing perhaps is
    • 00:30:52
      people trying to navigate the support systems in town and struggling a little bit.
    • 00:30:58
      And so we were so easy to access, right?
    • 00:31:01
      Like we were around the corner and we're, and as is now, we need to do an introduction at some point.
    • 00:31:09
      We were just very, very easy access.
    • 00:31:11
      People would just walk up to the window like dung, dung, dung, dung, dung, right?
    • 00:31:14
      And even if they didn't know what we were, and sometimes they were looking for something else, but then they would just come in and we'd guide them to here, there, or the other, right?
    • 00:31:21
      So I think part of that was that.
    • 00:31:24
      I'm going to be really interested to see, I think the numbers are already a slightly bit lower this year in the new space because with our partners like Home to Hope and the Job Center,
    • 00:31:34
      We can more quickly triage things and sometimes they're a better partner and so we can redirect more quickly.
    • 00:31:41
      So we'll just see.
    • 00:31:44
      Yeah, it's hard.
    • 00:31:45
      I don't think we have like, I can't think of a good measure to say like, why is it higher this year as opposed to last year?
    • Kathryn LaughonMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:31:51
      Well, I guess what I'm wondering is some of what you're talking about.
    • 00:31:54
      Like, is it
    • 00:31:56
      Should we be telling the city they need to be funding someone to be a navigator or something?
    • 00:32:02
      I think you do a great job of it, but also you have a lot to do.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:32:06
      That is a good point.
    • 00:32:07
      Part of the reason we're tracking specifically the services this year that we're providing when we navigate and the time spent by each staff person so we can give you actual dollar figure amount to say this costs this when we do this.
    • 00:32:21
      That's outside of what we are mandated to do by the ordinance.
    • 00:32:24
      And I think that, you know, key takeaways for me, and this is anecdotal but you could probably back it up with data and in 2023 we'll be able to do that easier.
    • 00:32:36
      The lack of accessible mental health care, huge, absolutely huge.
    • 00:32:44
      The lack of emergency housing support,
    • 00:32:49
      linked to that mental health care piece also huge and then of course lack of affordable housing for the long term.
    • 00:32:57
      So mental health, emergency housing, and affordable housing generally are reasons that people come because they're desperate and the resources aren't there.
    • 00:33:07
      It's sort of like it's a vacuum and so they're hitting everything that they can.
    • 00:33:13
      And even for the resources that exist in those realms, they're hard to get into.
    • 00:33:18
      And so a lot of times we're helping people get into an intake at Region 10 or maintain that connection at Region 10 or at The Haven or whatever happens to be negotiating with CRHA and a landlord.
    • 00:33:30
      Those are just examples.
    • 00:33:31
      But yeah.
    • 00:33:32
      So those are the kinds of things that could lead to development of more services either in the nonprofit sector or in the city sector.
    • Kathryn LaughonMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:33:39
      And then I have one more question.
    • 00:33:41
      Yeah, go, go.
    • 00:33:42
      So I get that housing is sort of the biggest piece of what you do.
    • 00:33:45
      Yeah.
    • 00:33:46
      Housing is the biggest public crisis, but do you think that you see so many fewer complaints in the other realms because of how narrowly drawn
    • 00:33:58
      This statute is, or the ordinance is, and is that something you should be thinking about?
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:34:03
      That's a good question.
    • 00:34:06
      So the ordinance really can't go beyond what state law does, right?
    • 00:34:09
      So the ordinance drives its authority from state law, the Virginia Fair Housing Law, and then the Virginia Human Rights Act, which also drives its authority from the Federal Civil Rights Act, Fair Housing Act, and so forth, and the ADA.
    • 00:34:24
      So I think it's as broad as it can be, I guess.
    • 00:34:32
      Yeah, what amounts to a complaint is really specific, right?
    • 00:34:36
      And I think we've gotten way more complaints, I think, in the last few years than we had maybe when I first, at least when I first started.
    • 00:34:44
      The complaints themselves have been up, most of which are resolved through mediation or some other form, but
    • 00:34:51
      I think continued outreach so that people understand, one, what are the protected activities?
    • 00:34:56
      I mean, I think some of the things like, for example, public accommodation, it's one of those things that people are probably experiencing public accommodation, discrimination, but it's just like, it's so commonplace for some.
    • 00:35:07
      It's just like, meh, I can't do anything about that.
    • 00:35:10
      And so outreach around that and education around that would be important.
    • 00:35:15
      For example, that's why we're making that animated video with the sort of explanation of the different things and what we do to hopefully post and get in different places.
    • 00:35:25
      But I think that's one component of it.
    • 00:35:28
      I mean, I'd like to believe that maybe there's not that much discrimination, but you don't know.
    • 00:35:34
      I mean, we don't know what we don't see.
    • 00:35:35
      And I think if we enter into
    • 00:35:37
      say the fat work share we're going to see the things that are getting reported to the federal or state offices that we're not seeing currently because it's just they're not referred back to us because we don't have the work share same with the FIPA yeah yeah all right thanks yeah hopefully that's helpful yeah
    • Jeanette Abi-NaderMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:35:59
      First of all, it's an amazing report.
    • 00:36:02
      It's really thorough.
    • 00:36:03
      And I have two questions.
    • 00:36:05
      One is, I see it's based on a calendar year.
    • 00:36:09
      Is that typical for the department reports or do they typically report on the fiscal year of the city?
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:36:15
      That's a great question.
    • 00:36:17
      When I came in and started looking at what the previous examples were, it was always calendar year, so I sort of stuck with it.
    • 00:36:26
      I guess we could change it to fiscal year.
    • 00:36:30
      There's no reason really why we couldn't.
    • 00:36:32
      Just because we've done it that way, I just kept it that way, I suppose.
    • Jeanette Abi-NaderMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:36:37
      Yeah, I'm just curious about how that would affect your potential for asking for funding, the timeline of that, of what your report is due.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:36:44
      Right.
    • 00:36:44
      And I think that there is no due date for any of the reports.
    • 00:36:48
      And part of like what we, I think I mentioned this in the email that Jessica and I worked on some of the revisions that we talked about in the rules and procedures.
    • 00:36:56
      And I did add one more in between since we last talked, because I did finally submit our first quarterly report to council.
    • 00:37:04
      They didn't ask for it, but they put it in the ordinance two years ago.
    • 00:37:07
      So I said, okay, I'm going to give it to you so we can start that.
    • 00:37:11
      And it says they're going to develop operating procedures where it will establish a schedule.
    • 00:37:16
      And I said, well, here's a schedule based on the calendar year.
    • 00:37:19
      So I kind of established that, drafted a little bit to put in the rules and procedures about it, just so it's codified somewhere that we have a procedure.
    • 00:37:27
      This year was the first time, I think, since I've been here.
    • 00:37:31
      when Charlene was still director that we actually got a date.
    • 00:37:35
      They asked us, hey, do you want to present to council?
    • 00:37:38
      I was like, OK. That sounds like a great idea.
    • 00:37:40
      And they really worked with us to say, well, how about, you know, what month would be good?
    • 00:37:45
      I said, you know, they said, how about May or June?
    • 00:37:47
      I said, how about June?
    • 00:37:48
      And we should have everything set.
    • 00:37:50
      So as far as when funding comes around, that's why we track the data on a monthly basis.
    • 00:37:57
      So I'm ready to talk about it whenever they want to have the budget meeting, which is typically
    • 00:38:01
      And it gives you a good six months to compile all your data before you need to ask for funding.
    • Jeanette Abi-NaderMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:38:15
      My second question was, do you know, you may not know this, but if any other departments
    • 00:38:20
      I know I haven't seen anything like this from the police department for example.
    • 00:38:28
      I don't know.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:38:28
      It's a good question.
    • 00:38:29
      I should be more curious to be honest.
    • 00:38:33
      I kind of thought about looking at some of the other departments just to see how they do it.
    • 00:38:38
      I don't know.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:38:39
      I honestly don't know.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:38:41
      I just find it so helpful from my own, like, okay, what are we doing and where is this pointing that it's useful for us.
    • Jeanette Abi-NaderMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:38:51
      Well, thank you.
    • 00:38:52
      It's very well done.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:38:54
      Thanks.
    • 00:38:55
      Any other questions on it?
    • Suzanne LynnMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:38:57
      I agree.
    • 00:38:58
      It was wonderful to read.
    • 00:39:00
      It feels like a model.
    • 00:39:01
      I also had a question, you mentioned in there that you also serve some folks from Albemarle and how does that, I'm just curious how that plays out, I mean I appreciate, I saw you also wrote that there may be a need for services in the county, but how does, are there services in the county?
    • 00:39:19
      No.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:39:20
      There is no Office of Human Rights or Human Rights Commission in the county.
    • 00:39:29
      Our jurisdiction extends only to the geographical borders of the city.
    • 00:39:35
      That said, when something comes up where somebody presents, not necessarily a complaint, but a concern that involves resources that cross city county borders, I'm in the middle of one of those right now that's been really, really intense, right?
    • 00:39:53
      Sometimes I get involved because especially if somebody's a member engaged in protected activity and member of multiple protected classes or even a single protected class, it just seems, and I see that there's a struggle there that we could potentially address, I get involved.
    • 00:40:08
      Now, that could be, that's a double-edged sword because it also takes away from the things that we could be doing that are under the ordinance.
    • 00:40:16
      It's a little challenging.
    • 00:40:17
      What we can do when there are actual complaints or an allegation of discrimination in the county or anywhere really and they come to us, we can refer them to the state and federal agencies that do have jurisdiction.
    • 00:40:29
      That's kind of the extent of it.
    • Suzanne LynnMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:40:33
      When I read it, it felt like it feels like the right thing to do in terms of if there are other reasons where you see that you should be involved.
    • 00:40:43
      And it is
    • 00:40:45
      It's interesting to think about, and I don't know and it's not up to us to track it, but I don't know how often people from Albemarle are engaging and utilizing our office versus directly going to a state agency.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:41:04
      All I know is how often they're coming to us.
    • 00:41:06
      I don't know how often they're going there first.
    • Ernest ChambersVice Chair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:41:08
      Do you think they're being pointed to us before going to state office or do they not know that we're just based in the general graphical area of Charlottesville City?
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:41:23
      Yes, and, because I think sometimes somebody will say, well, you should talk to the Office of Human Rights.
    • 00:41:30
      They may be able to guide you.
    • 00:41:32
      And I think that knowledge of like the Virginia Fair Housing Office sits within the Department of Professional Occupational Regulation of the state.
    • 00:41:41
      Like, who knows that stuff, right?
    • 00:41:42
      So it's like, same with like, most people don't know that their Attorney General's Office has an Office of Civil Rights that handles employment and public accommodation.
    • 00:41:50
      It's just not widely broadcast and so I think it's good if somebody comes to us because we're findable or because they met us somewhere or heard about us and then we can say oh I think it's a very valuable service I would say is to be able to connect them to the appropriate office that they may not know about otherwise.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:42:14
      Nope.
    • 00:42:17
      Todd, side note.
    • 00:42:18
      Lyndele is trying to find parking but there is none.
    • 00:42:21
      I was also struggling with the same thing.
    • 00:42:23
      Can she be granted just to zoom in if she literally can't find parking?
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:42:27
      Because she can't find parking.
    • 00:42:28
      Has she tried the Water Street Garage?
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:42:30
      Yeah, that's what I told her.
    • 00:42:31
      She said it's backed out.
    • 00:42:32
      It's backed out too.
    • 00:42:33
      It just changed in minutes ago because there were spots open.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:42:36
      Wow, that's a great question.
    • 00:42:39
      I would say state code doesn't really address the fact that if you can't physically access your meeting space, that's a great question.
    • 00:42:52
      I don't know.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:42:53
      I don't know.
    • Kathryn LaughonMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:42:55
      Even if she just listened in maybe?
    • 00:42:59
      I mean even if her vote doesn't count?
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:43:01
      Yeah we could say that like maybe as a non-voting participant she could be here.
    • 00:43:05
      That's so frustrating.
    • 00:43:07
      Thanks.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:43:07
      What's the number to call in?
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:43:09
      Wow what an interesting conundrum.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:43:25
      I never would have anticipated this.
    • 00:43:33
      Let's see if... Remi, do you know if on the Zoom invitation it gives the phone number?
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:43:48
      Here we go.
    • Andrew OrbanMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:43:49
      I don't think it does.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:43:52
      It does actually.
    • 00:43:53
      It does?
    • 00:43:54
      Okay, great.
    • 00:43:56
      Well, it gives you a whole bunch of numbers.
    • 00:43:59
      How about I read the first one?
    • 00:44:00
      Would that be helpful?
    • 00:44:01
      Are you in communication with her right now, Jessica?
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:44:03
      Yeah, she said just to send her the Zoom link, so I know we're not supposed to do that, but I can just send her my Zoom link.
    • 00:44:09
      She'll just log in.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:44:11
      I suppose, I think it won't be a problem since you're not logged in, right?
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:44:14
      Well I know, but I just, so I don't have to keep turning my neck to smear it, but it'll be fine.
    • 00:44:20
      But you can also give me the number, I'm ready.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:44:22
      Oh yeah, the number that's listed first is 267-831-0333.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:44:43
      I had a couple questions for you, Todd.
    • 00:44:54
      First, we're presenting this to city council.
    • 00:44:57
      And it's in their approval.
    • 00:45:00
      When will we know that you're approved to speak to the council?
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:45:03
      Oh, so it's approved.
    • 00:45:04
      It's already on the agenda.
    • 00:45:06
      OK.
    • 00:45:06
      The approval process now is that, OK, so the agenda item got posted a number of months ago.
    • 00:45:13
      And then there's a deadline by which you have to start attaching stuff.
    • 00:45:16
      And I thought it was actually the 16th.
    • 00:45:19
      But the 16th was just to get it on the agenda, which had been on the agenda for a long time.
    • 00:45:23
      So that was good.
    • 00:45:25
      So I went ahead and posted.
    • 00:45:27
      All the attachments before the 16th as well, because I didn't want to be behind.
    • 00:45:33
      But Kyna said that you can still refine your attachments, but they still go through an approval process.
    • 00:45:39
      So I think our approval chain is Allison Davies reads it over for legal stuff, and then Michael Rogers will eventually approve it for, I guess, yes, the materials are good to go.
    • 00:45:53
      I assume I'll just hear probably within the next week or so that everything's good to go but if we have changes that's mainly why you want to make sure that you had the opportunity to look at it.
    • Kathryn LaughonMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:46:03
      So when do you plan to present this talk?
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:46:04
      It's June 5th and I think it's at the 4 p.m.
    • 00:46:10
      like work session or whatever they call it.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:46:12
      Do you need me to be there for that?
    • 00:46:13
      Could I join?
    • 00:46:15
      I was really though because I won't be physically here.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:46:17
      Yeah, I think you could.
    • 00:46:19
      Yeah, because it's not your it's not our meeting.
    • 00:46:21
      It's their meeting.
    • 00:46:22
      So you could just join.
    • 00:46:23
      And I think that if you if you can't make it in, I don't anticipate putting any presentation pressure on you.
    • 00:46:29
      But if they had a question of you, it might be good to be available as a Zoom panelist.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:46:34
      So I had so that was my first question.
    • 00:46:36
      The second one was we had a couple of
    • 00:46:40
      HRC Resolutions and Recommendations to City Council that we never heard back on.
    • 00:46:45
      Is this a time to mention that again?
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:46:47
      You could, yeah, if there are resolutions that you'd want feedback from them.
    • 00:46:52
      Yeah, can you, how about this, you can ask, tell me which ones you'd like me to follow up on and we can do so.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:46:58
      Well, the two that caught my mind, but I'm opening to everyone, was just our recommendations that we gave them a long time ago about the Albemarle, Charlottesville Regional Jail, just the recommendations there, because we put a lot of time and energy into that, and then the recommendation for the
    • 00:47:16
      Citywide Language Access Plan.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:47:18
      Yeah, and I can give you an update a little bit on the language access plan because I know that sort of that fell into Ashley's lab and so she has now like gone, she did like a department survey to find out like what language access tools are you currently using, what are your deficits, that sort of thing.
    • 00:47:40
      And then I think she's in a procurement process because we need like a, we need a
    • 00:47:45
      We need to find somebody who can provide what we need and then develop a plan for us because it's big.
    • 00:47:50
      It's a big thing.
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      And then we need a dollar figure as to how much it's going to cost to do like language line citywide or whatever it happens to be to make that work.
    • 00:47:59
      So I think that's in the works.
    • 00:48:02
      Maybe the best question might be it might be for for Ashley to follow up, like ask where I can send her a message.
    • 00:48:10
      Where are we at with
    • 00:48:13
      with that process, I'll make a note of that now actually.
    • 00:48:16
      And then with the jail one, yeah, that was mostly around COVID safety, right?
    • 00:48:23
      And so what, yeah, is there just maybe getting, you're curious about a response as to what are they doing now kind of thing or?
    • 00:48:31
      Yeah.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:48:32
      Okay.
    • 00:48:38
      And the next thought is we had to push it because we didn't have staffing
    • 00:48:42
      for the FAP agreement but now you do have staffing?
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:48:47
      Partially, yeah.
    • 00:48:48
      I can talk a little bit about that because what's kind of interesting is we write the 2022 annual report even though I have new knowledge.
    • 00:48:55
      It's kind of weird because I'm writing this thing in the past and I know new things but I can't put the new things in the old report.
    • 00:49:01
      And so FAP
    • 00:49:03
      I have to do more revisions to the ordinance.
    • 00:49:06
      And so my task was to get through this, my plan was to get through the 2022 Annual Report, which is kind of the huge writing project for the office at the moment, get that through council, and then I'm going to start working on all the FAP amendments to the ordinance again.
    • 00:49:19
      So HUD gave us more feedback and they're like, I actually changed this, this, and this.
    • 00:49:24
      And then so I'll make those changes, run them through HUD one more time, run them through legal one more time,
    • 00:49:32
      then get on City Council's agenda through 221s and then finally an agenda item again.
    • 00:49:38
      So my best guess is that's going to be in the fall at the earliest just because I have to go through all those steps.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:49:44
      So I mean is this something worthwhile to just put on their radar again just to say that this is going to come?
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:49:49
      Yeah, I think they're going to ask me about it anyway.
    • 00:49:51
      You know it's in the 2022 report there's kind of like a summary of steps taken thus far and then I have a feeling they're going to ask about it.
    • 00:49:59
      I'm probably going to make like a little PowerPoint
    • 00:50:02
      to highlight the main things in the report, which I haven't built that yet.
    • 00:50:07
      The team and I will work on that.
    • 00:50:08
      But I think part of what I want to do in that PowerPoint is say, and here's the 2023 blurb that you should know right now.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:50:18
      As you develop that, can I see?
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:50:19
      Yeah, yeah, certainly.
    • 00:50:21
      And if you want to contribute to it, please.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:50:23
      Yes, I'd love to.
    • 00:50:24
      OK, let's talk.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:50:25
      Yeah, I should give credit, like the whole team contributed to this report.
    • 00:50:29
      It's like not just me writing this thing.
    • 00:50:31
      We had an editor, you know, everybody's kind of contributing to it.
    • 00:50:34
      So it's really great to have a team to work on it.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:50:38
      And my last question, is there any other things that you're planning on presenting that should be on our radar for city council?
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:50:50
      Let's see, at this particular report time, you mean, or in the future?
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:50:56
      At this report time.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:50:57
      No, just the report and answer.
    • 00:51:00
      I can never anticipate all the questions that may come, but I think that I would present the report with some general updates as to like, here's where this stands now in 2023 at present.
    • 00:51:16
      Yeah, I think the big one probably is they're going to ask maybe about the investigator thing now that that had gotten some media coverage as well after they passed the budget and people saw that that was coming out.
    • 00:51:27
      Yeah and figuring out we've been kind of talking in different ways about how to meet the need now versus in the future and how do we yeah we're just trying to think about like training up our current staff to do some of the investigative work that's currently underway and then preparing for the FAP by like being strategic about when we hire the investigator there's a lot to think about in that so
    • 00:51:50
      I'm sure I'll get asked that question, so I'm kind of formulating my plan.
    • 00:51:53
      I'm kind of waiting for Victoria to come back to talk it through with her as well.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:51:58
      When I plan to attend, I just register as an attendee?
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:52:01
      I think that would work, and then they can promote you to a panelist if you want to speak and that sort of thing.
    • 00:52:06
      Does that seem good to you in terms of, or did you want to be there in person?
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:52:10
      I won't physically be there.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:52:11
      You can't be, right?
    • 00:52:12
      Because you're away.
    • 00:52:13
      I'm away.
    • 00:52:14
      That's right.
    • 00:52:15
      So perfect.
    • 00:52:17
      Is that June 5th?
    • 00:52:18
      June 5th, yeah.
    • 00:52:21
      I think that's right.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:52:22
      It's kind of in my head as June 5th.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:52:26
      I hope I don't show up and I'm the only one there.
    • Ernest ChambersVice Chair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:52:30
      It's not doing a regular...
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:52:31
      It's four o'clock.
    • 00:52:32
      They have these sessions now.
    • 00:52:35
      Regular business starts at 6.30 with the readings and consent agenda and all that stuff, but then they've now held...
    • 00:52:42
      This is new developments, that little section at the beginning for reports to council that don't need a vote on anything.
    • 00:52:51
      I think it's pretty neat.
    • 00:52:52
      They think they've really increased the ability to schedule this stuff.
    • 00:52:55
      There she is.
    • Ernest ChambersVice Chair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:52:57
      It's field days.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:53:00
      Welcome, Lyndele.
    • Suzanne LynnMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:53:07
      And sorry, just for a quick clarification, what is...
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:53:12
      Sorry, I was muted.
    • 00:53:14
      Oh yeah, sure.
    • 00:53:15
      Sorry, yeah, you missed that whole journey.
    • 00:53:20
      This is great.
    • 00:53:21
      This is good practice for me to explain it in concise form.
    • 00:53:24
      So, FHAP, Fair Housing Assistance Program.
    • 00:53:29
      In a nutshell, it is a work share agreement with the Federal Fair Housing Office through Housing and Urban Development, HUD, in which
    • 00:53:40
      They would refer any cases that are jurisdictional to our office that either came to the Virginia Fair Housing Office or to their federal office in D.C.
    • 00:53:49
      They'd send them back to us and then we'd collaborate on the resolution.
    • 00:53:53
      The reasons for doing this are multifold.
    • 00:53:57
      First, we can handle more things locally that way and make sure that people don't have to go far away, even if they didn't realize that we were here, they'd get referred back to us.
    • 00:54:06
      Number two, there's financial incentives involved because we get some startup funding from HUD to build capacity, which is great.
    • 00:54:16
      And then, once we're fully up and running in the FAP, we get reimbursement for cases depending on how they're resolved through either a conciliation, administrative closure, or a full determination and ultimately like a court case.
    • 00:54:34
      It's a significant increase potentially in workload.
    • 00:54:38
      We don't actually know.
    • 00:54:39
      We're actually working on, one of my interns is working on a FOIA request to HUD to see how many jurisdictional complaints ended up in the state and federal office.
    • 00:54:49
      So hopefully we get that data ahead of June 5th so that when
    • 00:54:52
      We're talking about the need to hire and why and the timing and all that.
    • 00:54:56
      We can talk a little bit more about strategy there and the reasons behind it.
    • 00:55:00
      So that's it.
    • 00:55:01
      And the other one, FEPA, F-E-P-A, Fair Employment Practices Agency, is basically the same kind of thing, but with the EEOC, you get much less in terms of financial support to start off and the reimbursement rates for cases are much lower.
    • 00:55:17
      So we prioritized the FAP, one because it's a huge amount of more work because we have to amend our ordinance to do it, and two because the incentives are there to do it financially.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:55:27
      Thank you.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:55:27
      Yeah.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:55:30
      Any other questions for Todd?
    • 00:55:36
      Mary Lindell?
    • Jeanette Abi-NaderMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:55:39
      No, thank you.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:55:42
      All right, we're going to move to the HRC rules and procedures updates.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:55:46
      How do you say you added in some things?
    • 00:55:49
      Yeah, and maybe that's a good one to actually just go through line by line and say, are we good with that?
    • 00:55:53
      And then you could do a vote.
    • 00:55:55
      Does that seem right?
    • 00:55:57
      OK.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:56:01
      And here we are back.
    • 00:56:02
      We need Martha's Rules somewhere on the wall because I can't remember them yet.
    • 00:56:06
      Kathryn, are you going to be our Martha's Rules expert?
    • Kathryn LaughonMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:56:11
      Oh my gosh, I'm like the worst person to do that.
    • 00:56:13
      It's on page 40.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:56:14
      Is that really where it is?
    • 00:56:21
      It is there, isn't it?
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 00:56:22
      Yeah, it's right there.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:56:25
      Let me I'm getting there myself.
    • 00:56:27
      Okay, here we go.
    • 00:56:29
      All right, so I'll just go through the changes as they are in here.
    • 00:56:33
      And then if you have questions and further revisions, we can do it.
    • 00:56:35
      Otherwise, I think you could move for a vote and make it happen.
    • 00:56:40
      So scrolling past the first page, no changes there other than the little
    • 00:56:45
      The last
    • 00:57:02
      afterward just to make sure we had it straight.
    • 00:57:04
      So we basically changed the annual meeting to an election meeting and basically you can probably see the changes there but just making sure that we note that the first meeting of the commission in the month of January will be the election meeting in which we elect our new officers and then adding in as 3.2 a strategic planning meeting because these things are sort of merged before annual meeting election was all at the same time now we're saying
    • 00:57:32
      Specifically we're going to have a strategic planning meeting in which we, which is the first regular meeting of the month of March each year, which we timed with the appointment of new commissioners so that everybody can be involved and that's the point at which you'll adopt your work plan for the ensuing year.
    • 00:57:53
      So there's that change and that was 3.2.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:57:57
      Did I miss something?
    • 00:58:05
      It just says regular meetings.
    • 00:58:06
      Regular meetings shall be held on the 3rd.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:58:09
      Oh, is that still in there?
    • 00:58:10
      Yeah.
    • 00:58:11
      That looks like a little cut and paste thing.
    • 00:58:13
      That's just a typo thing.
    • 00:58:14
      OK, let me fix that.
    • 00:58:15
      So regular meetings.
    • 00:58:17
      Is that where, oh, I knew it happened.
    • 00:58:19
      I think it just ate the one that was below it.
    • 00:58:23
      So what I need to do is hit return there, and then it will give like a, that'll make regular meetings at 3.3.
    • 00:58:27
      Yeah.
    • 00:58:28
      Thanks.
    • 00:58:30
      Good eye.
    • Kathryn LaughonMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:58:30
      Strategic planning regularly.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 00:58:33
      Yeah.
    • 00:58:34
      OK, so rules and procedures fixes.
    • 00:58:38
      Thank you for seeing that.
    • 00:58:39
      My eyes get tired and I'm just like, yeah, that's good.
    • 00:58:42
      No.
    • 00:58:44
      I haven't seen you looking at something for a long time.
    • 00:58:49
      Yeah.
    • 00:58:49
      I'm just going to make a note.
    • 00:58:50
      OK, very good.
    • 00:58:51
      Thank you for that.
    • 00:58:52
      Any other notes on that?
    • 00:58:54
      Any other changes?
    • 00:58:55
      OK.
    • 00:58:56
      Zooming on down.
    • 00:59:01
      Under 4, Martha's rules are just highlighted to remind us that we were going to talk about it because we approved them back in February of 2020.
    • 00:59:07
      We wanted to make sure that we reviewed them again, which Kathryn did for us last meeting to say, do you want to make any additional changes to this before saying, yeah, that we're going to take those on.
    • 00:59:17
      So that highlight will just go away.
    • 00:59:21
      Here, 4.5.1, we added in the ad hoc committees to replace standing committees because we didn't have the standing committees we haven't for, golly, I don't know, maybe four or five years.
    • 00:59:35
      So we only have four years, I guess, now.
    • 00:59:37
      and so just reflecting that change in how we go about business and now I think we're even doing it differently like we don't have ad hoc committees but this preserves the ability to form them as needed now we've just been doing work sessions in which we work on what we need to work on so and the work session piece is actually in the rules and procedures as a meeting type if you notice that above at the top so yeah and I apologize I haven't noticed this in one of the previous versions oh yeah up above in
    • Jeanette Abi-NaderMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:00:07
      4.1, and I'm sure it's throughout, maybe it was 4.2, the second sentence, the chair, the commission, or in his or her absence, the vice chair.
    • 01:00:17
      Could we make that gender neutral?
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:00:18
      Absolutely, thank you for catching that.
    • 01:00:20
      I think we caught a lot of the gendered language, but we're gonna, thank you so much for that.
    • 01:00:29
      We'll be there, thank you.
    • 01:00:32
      And if you see any more of those, maybe I'll do a finder place.
    • 01:00:36
      Yeah.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 01:00:37
      Yeah.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:00:43
      Thank you.
    • 01:00:44
      And I think we did that on the ordinance.
    • 01:00:45
      I think we've been successful on that one.
    • 01:00:48
      Good.
    • 01:00:49
      Great.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 01:00:50
      Anything on the ad hoc committee piece?
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:00:52
      OK. And zooming on down, this is the new thing that I added, number seven, which is to say,
    • 01:01:01
      This is when we're going to do quarterly reports.
    • 01:01:02
      This is when we'll do annual reports.
    • 01:01:04
      Looks like you need to add a space between 7.1 and 7.2.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:01:07
      Do you need to state like that was requested by city council?
    • 01:01:15
      You've done it everywhere else, like city council said, city council said.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:01:22
      Yeah, let me look at, I could just refer back to the ordinance per section in the ordinance.
    • 01:01:30
      Yeah.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:01:31
      Just for consistency's sake because you kind of do it in other places.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:01:34
      Do I?
    • Kathryn LaughonMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:01:36
      Yeah.
    • 01:01:36
      Can I just ask a quick question?
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:01:38
      Yeah.
    • Kathryn LaughonMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:01:39
      Is doing those quarterly reports
    • 01:01:43
      Is that just essentially getting ahead of so that your annual report you can just smush together the quarterly reports or is it actually adding an entirely new task?
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:01:53
      Well, no, sort of.
    • 01:01:56
      Yes and no.
    • 01:01:57
      Yes and no.
    • 01:01:58
      So when I started doing the monthly reports for us, and I had this discussion with Sina back when she was on council.
    • 01:02:08
      And she said, how about you just send us one of those just quarterly?
    • 01:02:11
      Just take the one that you send to commission.
    • 01:02:13
      So I'm going to do those anyway for you all, and for my own purposes, just to summarize with my brain every month.
    • 01:02:21
      All this it's not really that much work to make those And and I'm trying to synthesize like the materials I used to build those with the annual report so that I could just cut and paste and move stuff around so not really it's just Reformatting the same stuff basically.
    • Andrew OrbanMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:02:39
      It's all drawing from the same content.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:02:41
      It's all drawing from the same content Yeah, it's all drawing from big databases that we then
    • 01:02:45
      I also have to write monthly reports to the city manager, which are in different formats.
    • 01:02:54
      It all kind of fits together, but as much as it can be pulled and dropped, the better.
    • Kathryn LaughonMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:03:03
      Can you just give us your monthly report?
    • 01:03:05
      I hate the idea that you're spending so much time having to put together these reports, especially since I think these quarterly reports, nobody really thought about it.
    • 01:03:13
      And I don't know, honestly, that anybody actually wants them.
    • 01:03:16
      You know what I mean?
    • 01:03:17
      That was a very weird and inexplicable decision that happened.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:03:23
      It's a good question.
    • 01:03:24
      It's in the ordinance.
    • 01:03:25
      It's not that hard to do.
    • 01:03:27
      And part of it is, too, with our monthly report, I want to add,
    • 01:03:31
      You know how I have the annual report broken down by section in the ordinance, right, that it applies to?
    • 01:03:36
      I want to do that with this as pertains to the commission stuff because that goes in the annual report anyway and you'll be able to see like where are you at on a monthly basis with like stuff that relates to each one of those sections in the ordinance.
    • 01:03:52
      Does that make sense?
    • 01:03:53
      Jessica, I'm trying to read.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:03:54
      Well, I'm just fronting at you, it's a lot.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:04:01
      What it will look like, let's just say what it will look like in future reports, like the next month's report, you'll just basically get one of those big charts that I have, not the multicolored one, but the green one with the four boxes across the reports commission activities, all in one chart, but broken down, you can just see like per section.
    • 01:04:18
      I will put it all in one rather than breaking it down like I do in the annual report.
    • 01:04:22
      And then when it comes to the annual report, we split it up by section because we're inserting the office's stuff as well, if that makes sense.
    • 01:04:31
      It's not, I know, it's some work, it's not a huge amount because it's just derived from the same base reporting structure.
    • 01:04:40
      The more we refine it, the easier it gets.
    • Kathryn LaughonMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:04:44
      I just want to help you not have to do as much bureaucratic stuff so we can be doing more actual...
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:04:51
      Always appreciated.
    • 01:04:52
      I think it's efficient at the moment, and I've got a good team, which is part of the reason it works.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:05:04
      I noticed that the references you keep referencing are the VA code section, so I guess you don't have to reference our code.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:05:10
      Yeah, I think I actually typed the ordinance section reference in, and I started scrolling around, and I was like, oh, maybe I don't need that, so I deleted it.
    • 01:05:17
      What do you think, I can add it or not?
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:05:19
      I think it doesn't hurt, just...
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:05:21
      Okay, yeah.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:05:22
      I mean, if it takes you like a minute to do, I don't think it hurts.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:05:26
      Yeah, I'll do it.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:05:28
      Not to add to your plate.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:05:29
      I'm gonna be in there anyway, like fixing the other little things that are in there, so.
    • 01:05:33
      My computer timed out, let me log back in.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:05:36
      So you're saying you just added in the reports section 7.1 and 7.2?
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:05:40
      Yeah, those are the new pieces.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:05:42
      And then what's next?
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:05:43
      And then next is... Actually I have a question about the reports section still.
    • Wolfgang KeppleyMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:05:48
      Yeah.
    • 01:05:49
      So I noticed it says the Commission shall make quarterly reports other than like Director of the Office of Human Rights.
    • 01:05:53
      I know.
    • 01:05:54
      Are you like representing us in that?
    • 01:05:56
      Or like are we submitting the report?
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:05:58
      As the Director of the Commission?
    • 01:06:00
      Yeah.
    • 01:06:00
      It's that funny language that's in there.
    • 01:06:03
      We didn't amend the ordinance to change that.
    • 01:06:05
      Those were some of the things I said.
    • 01:06:08
      Here are the kind of unusual things that got added to our report.
    • 01:06:12
      Do we want to change them?
    • 01:06:13
      We were like, meh.
    • 01:06:14
      Council didn't want to change it.
    • 01:06:15
      So there it is.
    • 01:06:16
      I think it's by default.
    • 01:06:18
      However it goes, I can report it.
    • Wolfgang KeppleyMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:06:21
      Delighted to have you represent the commission.
    • 01:06:23
      For now.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:06:24
      I don't speak on behalf of the commission, but I can report what the commission is doing.
    • 01:06:28
      Gotcha.
    • Wolfgang KeppleyMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:06:29
      And then the other thing, even though you seem very self-motivated to put out the quarterly reports, would you be interested in changing the language from Shao to Mei to offer yourself flexibility in the future?
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:06:38
      It's in the ordinance as Shao.
    • 01:06:40
      I can't change that.
    • Wolfgang KeppleyMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:06:42
      Can I back away slowly?
    • 01:06:44
      I know.
    • 01:06:44
      Nobody asked for it, and they just did.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:06:48
      So it goes.
    • 01:06:49
      So it goes.
    • 01:06:50
      But we adapt.
    • 01:06:50
      We go, OK, this is what's expected.
    • 01:06:53
      How do we make it work?
    • 01:06:54
      And we make it work.
    • 01:06:54
      And I'm trying to like, what's the silver lining?
    • 01:06:57
      Well, I mean, if I'm doing this stuff, then I know what we're doing all the time.
    • 01:07:01
      I can really easily, if anybody asks a question, we can tell them.
    • Jeanette Abi-NaderMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:07:04
      And at least it brings the Human Rights Office top of mind to counsel.
    • 01:07:08
      Indeed.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:07:09
      You do a well adapting time.
    • 01:07:13
      I try not to.
    • 01:07:13
      You do it very gracefully.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:07:15
      I try to adapt.
    • 01:07:18
      Thanks for that question.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:07:20
      We appreciate you and your team.
    • 01:07:22
      This is what I'm trying to express.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:07:23
      I appreciate you appreciating us.
    • 01:07:26
      I'll tell you what, it's one of those things that when you don't, it makes a difference to know that it's helpful.
    • 01:07:32
      Have you met me?
    • 01:07:33
      You know what I mean?
    • 01:07:34
      So yeah, it's so good.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:07:36
      Well, glad to hear that in summary, though it may change the way it presents in the annual part, what I heard you say is that gathering it now does support that effort, even though it looks different in the family.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:07:46
      Exactly.
    • 01:07:46
      We're gathering the data anyway.
    • 01:07:47
      We can change the format pretty easily.
    • 01:07:50
      Thanks.
    • 01:07:51
      And then this section on amendments, there was a whole, I don't know why they added amendments as a separate thing, but we're going to leave that as that.
    • 01:08:01
      But what I did change was because the remote participation thing totally changed.
    • 01:08:10
      And in the policy, it says we had to scrap whatever we had and replace it with that.
    • 01:08:15
      So that's all it is.
    • 01:08:16
      I just scrapped all that and referenced the city policy.
    • 01:08:21
      Yeah, there you go.
    • 01:08:24
      So there's lots of lines, red lines through there.
    • 01:08:28
      And then I think we just went over Martha's Rules, we made no changes, so we'll just pass as is and there you go.
    • 01:08:41
      Was that a good enough summary?
    • 01:08:42
      We didn't read each section.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:08:43
      Any questions, Mary and Lyndele?
    • 01:08:48
      Okay, so we have to approve this again?
    • 01:08:56
      Can we vote on it with the changes that we just told you to do?
    • 01:09:00
      So we don't have to vote on it again?
    • 01:09:03
      Yes.
    • Andrew OrbanMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:09:07
      We've been presented with a written thing that we can vote on.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:09:15
      Lindell Mary,
    • 01:09:45
      Okay, we're good.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:09:49
      Can I get a verbal thumbs up?
    • 01:09:50
      Bam!
    • 01:09:51
      So it's done.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:09:51
      That's so it is.
    • Kathryn LaughonMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:09:52
      No, no.
    • 01:09:55
      Now we have no discussion to be having.
    • 01:09:57
      So those are your options.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:09:58
      You didn't know you were going to become the parliamentarian.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:10:00
      It's not like a worse job for me on the planet.
    • 01:10:05
      Do you favor kindling with it and then oppose as you do a roll call?
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:10:08
      Do we actually need to have any discussion?
    • Kathryn LaughonMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:10:17
      We're already on the same page, so let's just go and vote.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:10:21
      That's cool.
    • 01:10:22
      So then we're still doing in favor, oppose, or abstain?
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:10:25
      That's what I was just saying.
    • 01:10:29
      I'm really confused if that's now what we're supposed to be doing next.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:10:35
      and so you're your options are still in favor opposed to the proposal or is that that was not the straw poll no options that's okay I'm gonna have to straw poll that can we print this out time next time we need to I was just looking at it again it doesn't say what the the type of vote you do I guess in step eight there but or whatever yes yes no or abstain right okay
    • 01:11:05
      We'll get it figured out one of these days.
    • Jeanette Abi-NaderMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:11:07
      Jessica, you're referring to number six, which is the first book, and they're referring to number eight, which is the first section.
    • 01:11:14
      It's very confusing.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:11:19
      Okay, ready for it?
    • 01:11:23
      Let's go.
    • 01:11:25
      Jessica.
    • 01:11:26
      In favor, because that's what I want to say.
    • 01:11:28
      Nice.
    • 01:11:28
      Yes.
    • 01:11:29
      I like it.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:11:30
      Ernest.
    • 01:11:31
      In favor.
    • 01:11:32
      Okay.
    • 01:11:33
      Thank you.
    • Jeanette Abi-NaderMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:11:38
      Mary.
    • 01:11:40
      Yes.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:11:41
      Okay.
    • 01:11:42
      Oh, Wolfgang.
    • Wolfgang KeppleyMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:11:44
      In favor.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:11:45
      Okay.
    • 01:11:45
      Kathryn.
    • 01:11:48
      Yes.
    • 01:11:48
      And Suzanne.
    • Wolfgang KeppleyMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:11:49
      Yes.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:11:50
      Andy.
    • 01:11:51
      Yes.
    • 01:11:52
      And Lyndele, I want to ask you, but we're not actually sure if you're within state code.
    • 01:11:58
      I'm going to put yes with an asterisk in case somebody questions whether you can do this remotely.
    • 01:12:04
      Thank you.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:12:06
      She's here, Todd.
    • 01:12:07
      What do you mean?
    • 01:12:08
      She is.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:12:08
      I don't write state code though.
    • 01:12:11
      That's the problem.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:12:12
      If someone comes down to Lyndele because she's not physically here because she can't physically get here, that's crazy.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:12:18
      Yeah, but it doesn't matter because it passed anyway.
    • 01:12:22
      Okay.
    • 01:12:23
      Thanks.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:12:24
      We did it.
    • 01:12:25
      We did it.
    • 01:12:26
      Let's scroll back up and see where we need to do next.
    • Kathryn LaughonMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:12:28
      Work session updates.
    • 01:12:30
      Okay, that is, okay.
    • 01:12:33
      Turns out I'm doing the work session updates.
    • 01:12:35
      So I apparently am.
    • 01:12:38
      So at our work session, we mostly discussed attending meetings of housing related organizations.
    • 01:12:50
      Thought we would want to do that.
    • 01:12:52
      We don't really need to vote on that, do we?
    • 01:12:55
      We just are going to do it.
    • 01:12:57
      So updating that and to refresh everyone's memory, the purpose of attending these meetings is to listen, to bring information back to the Commission so that one, we understand the issues and two, we are aware of issues in a more timely
    • 01:13:17
      Manner, so that we can identify things that we may want to act on, mostly by amplification of the issue to city council.
    • 01:13:29
      And someone, Victoria or someone, I can't remember who, made a beautiful list.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:13:35
      Suzanne.
    • Kathryn LaughonMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:13:36
      Oh, Suzanne.
    • 01:13:37
      Oh, sorry.
    • 01:13:37
      Suzanne made a list.
    • 01:13:40
      and teams which I was able to access.
    • 01:13:44
      So we can go to the list, I don't know if anybody else has done it and click through and sign up for meetings.
    • 01:14:01
      Moving forward.
    • 01:14:03
      We still have some outstanding groups.
    • 01:14:10
      CLIC, for example, is I'm going to have to, I think, have an actual discussion with Emily Dreyfus about whether or not it's appropriate for us to send a liaison to CLIC.
    • 01:14:22
      And I will follow up on that.
    • 01:14:28
      And then was it at our last work session, Mary, that you presented your...
    • SPEAKER_09
    • 01:14:34
      I actually just sent it by email.
    • 01:14:38
      I think the session before I promised to do it, and then I sent it by email, but we never addressed it.
    • 01:14:45
      Well, we addressed it that you were gonna refine it to make it where... Yeah, well, I'm sorry I didn't do that, but I will be glad to do that.
    • Kathryn LaughonMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:14:54
      Okay, thank you.
    • 01:14:57
      No, I don't think there are any other updates from that session.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:15:00
      The action item is for us to go in and assign ourselves to be liaisons for ones that are of interest.
    • Kathryn LaughonMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:15:10
      Yes.
    • 01:15:12
      And is the Housing Advisory Committee on that Teams document?
    • 01:15:16
      I don't remember.
    • SPEAKER_09
    • 01:15:18
      It's not on there.
    • Kathryn LaughonMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:15:19
      It's not on there?
    • 01:15:21
      So we should add that because I believe there was a request someone said they could attend a daytime meeting.
    • 01:15:29
      Right, so that is a noon on the third Wednesday situation.
    • 01:15:36
      Although when I looked online, I could see the date that the March meeting and the date that the April meeting.
    • 01:15:42
      I did not see a date for a May meeting and I don't see agendas from any other months other than those two.
    • 01:15:50
      So do you have any more information about them?
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:15:53
      I remember looking, I think you're right about the time because I had a placeholder on my calendar for a long time because I was going to this.
    • 01:16:01
      But I have trouble finding them on the city calendar.
    • Kathryn LaughonMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:16:04
      Yeah, so I found those on the city website, although I wasn't looking on the calendar.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:16:10
      That's where I was looking.
    • 01:16:11
      Yeah.
    • Kathryn LaughonMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:16:12
      Anyway.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:16:13
      What would be helpful?
    • 01:16:14
      What do you mean that I could find out for you?
    • Kathryn LaughonMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:16:16
      Well, I'm just wondering, are they actually, like, is there an upcoming meeting?
    • Wolfgang KeppleyMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:16:22
      Tomorrow.
    • 01:16:23
      Yeah.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 01:16:23
      It's tomorrow?
    • Wolfgang KeppleyMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:16:25
      Okay.
    • 01:16:25
      Okay, she's on the calendar.
    • 01:16:26
      If you look on the agenda's in minutes and filter for housing advisory committee, it shows up.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:16:32
      Oh, that's the way to do it.
    • Wolfgang KeppleyMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:16:34
      If you go to the page for the housing advisory committee, it doesn't show up.
    • Kathryn LaughonMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:16:37
      It does not show up, but not correct.
    • 01:16:39
      Tomorrow?
    • 01:16:39
      It's Friday.
    • 01:16:42
      It's tricky.
    • Wolfgang KeppleyMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:16:44
      Huh, because they were?
    • 01:16:46
      No, no, it should be on a Wednesday.
    • 01:16:47
      It says Wednesday, May 19th.
    • 01:16:49
      Oh, this is 2021.
    • 01:16:51
      Hold up.
    • 01:16:53
      May Day.
    • 01:16:53
      That's what I thought.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:17:01
      It was hard to find, I felt.
    • 01:17:04
      And sometimes the name was different.
    • 01:17:06
      And I think the spelling of it made it hard to find.
    • Suzanne LynnMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:17:09
      If we could get confirmation that those are happening regularly and that they are in fact on the third Wednesday,
    • Jeanette Abi-NaderMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:17:15
      The Planning Commission is on here and I'm not able to do that but I am on the Steering Committee for the
    • 01:17:38
      Seagull plants to water, like all the zoning meetings and stuff.
    • 01:17:43
      So should I add that as a row?
    • 01:17:44
      Yeah, yeah.
    • 01:17:46
      Yes.
    • 01:17:46
      Yes.
    • 01:17:47
      Great.
    • Kathryn LaughonMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:17:48
      Add it and sign yourself up.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 01:18:04
      Oh, I'm dancing.
    • 01:18:05
      It's music.
    • 01:18:07
      I do not believe, did I forget anything that happened?
    • Kathryn LaughonMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:18:20
      It was quite a meeting, it was 20 minutes.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:18:23
      Do we need to, so the next action item on our agenda is to decide if we want to have our next work session meeting which is January 1st I think?
    • Kathryn LaughonMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:18:33
      Do we have any work to do with that work session?
    • 01:18:48
      I say we get ready to attend our meetings and be ready to report back at the next Human Rights Commission meeting, right?
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:18:57
      So we will not need the June 1st meeting.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:19:02
      Okay, I'll make a note of that and cancel it.
    • 01:19:06
      Remy, I'm telling you, and I'll, what would be helpful for you?
    • 01:19:13
      Just take it off the calendar.
    • 01:19:14
      Just remove it from the calendar.
    • 01:19:15
      Okay, I think I can figure out how to do that.
    • Ernest ChambersVice Chair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:19:19
      On June 5th when you get a report, is that during a time that the public can be involved in that or no?
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:19:30
      Yeah, that's a good question.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:19:33
      You can't at four o'clock when we're doing reports.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:19:40
      Oh, interesting.
    • 01:19:42
      So like you can't even watch it virtually.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:19:46
      Can there normally be an option to register?
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:19:50
      I don't know.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:19:51
      I think there's a something on your just says you can watch.
    • 01:19:55
      You can live stream.
    • Ernest ChambersVice Chair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:19:57
      You can live stream it?
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:20:02
      The option in general when you're trying to see what's going on there's an option to watch previous meetings but for this one there's no like I can't register right now to attend that.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:20:11
      Okay I don't think if I'm correct I don't know that you have to register anymore to come to council meetings I think you just come in and it's not a closed session and they're meeting in person so I think you just come in but I can confirm because I know they're doing special meetings before council yeah just wondering about if we if we could
    • Ernest ChambersVice Chair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:20:38
      get in on hearing you give a report.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:20:41
      I think it's a publicly noticed meeting.
    • 01:20:45
      They're meeting in person and it's open to the public.
    • 01:20:47
      If it's closed session, you can't, but I think so.
    • 01:20:50
      And they took away, I think it was a COVID thing where you had to like register because they could have only but so many people in there because they had limited seating.
    • 01:20:59
      But I think now you can just go in.
    • 01:21:01
      And I heard recently that
    • 01:21:03
      Like attendance has been really low and that might be because people are still figuring out that you can do that like we're doing right now.
    • 01:21:09
      So would it be helpful to just confirm how that works and then follow back up?
    • 01:21:13
      Would that be good?
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:21:14
      Yeah.
    • 01:21:14
      Confirm how I can zoom it.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:21:15
      Yeah.
    • 01:21:16
      Zoom it and it's in person.
    • 01:21:19
      Okay.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:21:24
      All right.
    • 01:21:26
      Now we have, is there public comment?
    • 01:21:29
      I think I saw John Sales.
    • 01:21:31
      Hi John.
    • 01:21:33
      Does anyone have a comment?
    • Andrew OrbanMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:21:40
      His hand is not raised at this time.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:21:41
      So if you want to raise your hand you can say raise hand function or if you're on the phone press star nine.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 01:21:57
      Okay.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:21:57
      Commissioner updates, sorry I did have an update.
    • 01:22:03
      So someone's birthday passed by that escaped by which I think is not paid.
    • 01:22:11
      So we do have cake for Ernest to celebrate Ernest.
    • 01:22:17
      And it's strawberry like.
    • 01:22:20
      Oh my gosh, the 22nd.
    • Ernest ChambersVice Chair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:22:21
      The 22nd.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:22:22
      And I'd also like to honor the mommies in the room or those that step in as a contease or in some, mail their figure way.
    • 01:22:28
      So happy related Mother's Day to all of us.
    • 01:22:31
      Thank you.
    • 01:22:31
      Thank you.
    • 01:22:32
      All right, I'll yield.
    • 01:22:34
      Anyone else has commissioner updates?
    • Kathryn LaughonMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:22:36
      This is not a commissioner update per se, but I just want to remind us since we're going to meetings and then going to be updating the commission, we really need to get a written report.
    • 01:22:47
      So it doesn't have to be long, but a couple of bullet points of whatever you want us to know should come in writing.
    • Suzanne LynnMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:22:57
      As we come back from meeting from liaisons.
    • Kathryn LaughonMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:22:59
      Yes, before the meeting so it can go into our meeting.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:23:03
      The agenda packet, yeah, that'd be great.
    • Kathryn LaughonMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:23:06
      And I don't think we need to do like a summary of the entire meeting.
    • 01:23:09
      I think we just need to say we attended this meeting and here is whatever is important for the conditions.
    • Wolfgang KeppleyMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:23:17
      How would you like us to send those out?
    • 01:23:19
      Just an email blast?
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:23:23
      Good question.
    • 01:23:24
      So yeah, if you want to just send it to the HRC group, then I will log those and drop them in the folder that I used to build the agenda packet.
    • 01:23:34
      So you can see it in advance, but then I can also put it in the packet, if that makes sense.
    • 01:23:41
      Yeah, good.
    • Wolfgang KeppleyMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:23:45
      I attended the DSA meeting last night and they are hosting a training event for anybody who wants to do housing justice canvassing on June 10th at 1 p.m. and I can circulate the details if anybody's interested.
    • 01:23:59
      And I did that last week and I would like to say I think it is worth doing.
    • 01:24:05
      They canvassed 75 people last week alone, so a lot of people doing good work.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:24:11
      That reminded me, I think I mentioned last time that we have, Legal Aid Justice comes once a month and uses our conference room while they're having eviction hearings in Charlottesville General District Court.
    • 01:24:22
      We had the first one of those and people came down and people from DSA led them down, which was also good.
    • 01:24:28
      So I wanted to mention that that's good and related to that.
    • 01:24:32
      Other thing, I don't know, can we introduce you?
    • 01:24:34
      Is that okay?
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:24:35
      Do you want to be introduced?
    • 01:24:38
      Okay.
    • 01:24:38
      It's recording.
    • 01:24:39
      Go ahead.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:24:40
      Our new Executive Director of the Police Civilian Oversight Board is here as a member of the public.
    • 01:24:49
      Do you want to say a few words and just introduce yourself?
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 01:24:52
      I'm Inez Gonzalez.
    • 01:24:53
      I'm the PCAB Executive Director and I'm just happy to be here learning from all of you.
    • Todd NiemeierOffice of Human Rights Director, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:24:59
      Thanks for coming.
    • SPEAKER_05
    • 01:25:00
      Thank you for having me.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:25:03
      Awesome.
    • 01:25:03
      Anyone else?
    • Ernest ChambersVice Chair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:25:05
      Just a community shout out.
    • 01:25:09
      Thank you for watching over Berlin-Mariette Elementary School and the principal and family.
    • 01:25:17
      So just thank you guys very, very much for being as kind as you have been to us.
    • 01:25:23
      And thank you.
    • Jessica HarrisChair, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:25:34
      Anyone else?
    • 01:25:36
      All right, so next steps are mainly on Todd's plate.
    • 01:25:45
      He's going to go to the City Council and update our rules, HRC rules and procedures, and I will plan to attend, if I can, virtually that meeting with the City Council.
    • 01:25:58
      I think that was all.
    • 01:25:59
      And then we're going to sign that.
    • 01:26:01
      The action items were for us to go into the pro-housing organization liaison list and find if you could be able to attend and add your name to that list.
    • 01:26:24
      All right, if all hearts and minds are clear, we will adjourn at 7.53 PM Eastern.
    • Kathryn LaughonMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:26:32
      All right.
    • 01:26:34
      Thank you.
    • 01:26:34
      Awesome.
    • 01:26:35
      Thank you.
    • 01:26:35
      Thanks.
    • Jeanette Abi-NaderMember, Human Rights Commission
    • 01:26:37
      Bye, everyone.