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Albemarle County
Electoral Board Meeting 6/11/2026
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Electoral Board Meeting
6/11/2026
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2026_06_11 Minutes.pdf
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
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I think she meant to say recording in progress.
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So let me welcome you to the June 11th Rock County Electoral Board meeting.
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And I note the presence of all the electoral board members, as well as a host of other people.
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So we'll continue on.
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First order of business is the approval of the final agenda.
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We've got a draft agenda.
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Everyone gets to look at it.
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Any changes to that agenda?
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
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No, I did have a question for our counselor.
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I could do that under wherever.
SPEAKER_12
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All right.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
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Then we'll take this agenda as approved.
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And we'll move on.
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Brief announcements from the board and registrar.
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So the registrar probably has
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and other changes that she would like to announce.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
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So we hired a new chief deputy.
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His name is Richard Spive.
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He's here.
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So excellent.
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I'm not sure everybody has met Andrea.
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She is the senior assistant.
SPEAKER_12
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Could you speak up, please?
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
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Yes.
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So we've met Andrea, and I'm not sure that she's met Richard.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
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That's it?
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You don't want them to say anything for themselves?
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I'm thrilled to be here.
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Right on!
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Tough act to follow, Andrea.
SPEAKER_00
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It's very tough to follow.
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I'm here for a while already, so thank you for having me.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
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So somewhat less thrilled is what I'm hearing.
SPEAKER_12
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Now we have the opportunity for public comment if there's anyone who'd like to
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
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This young man had his hand up first.
SPEAKER_09
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Is the registrar staff now at full staff?
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
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We are not.
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Our elections manager, Alex Branch, has resigned, and he's moved on to be the registrar in Waynesboro County.
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And so that position is open.
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We've already posted that.
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And then I've reposted the utility
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registered registrar's position also.
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So, and again, I've gotten several, several applications.
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We just posted those last Friday, not quite a weekend.
SPEAKER_09
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I have a second question.
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A follow up.
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Okay.
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Different subject.
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What's the status of the state reimbursement for the special online
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
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We did that already.
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The deadline for that was the ninth of this week.
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So you're right, I'm trying to get here.
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And so what we did was we reimbursed, I don't think of the exact number.
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I started with a certain number.
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We ended up with a different number after talking with the finance group.
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So what main portions that we included were postage.
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What we included were things that were very clear.
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So if we were audited, we would be able to- Printing balance.
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Exactly.
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printing ballots, postage, the cost of the election officials on election day.
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Early voting was a little bit more than evidence, those kinds of things.
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But I'll have that, I wanna make sure I have the right number and then I'll have that.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
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And realistically, you're expecting to get only a tiny fraction of that back, right?
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
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Right, I'm not sure.
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It's probably a little over 100,000 that we put in.
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So I'm not sure how much we'll get back.
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
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In response to his first question,
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It was.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
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I interviewed about 10 people and didn't find one.
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Sorry.
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Great.
SPEAKER_12
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Yeah, just with the reorganization, just quick question on Andrea's position.
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What is it?
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Is it the same that we had before or is it a new position?
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
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I don't know what you had before.
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This position was not filled.
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I'm not sure that this position was filled before.
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I'm not sure.
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Right.
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Yes.
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What does that mean?
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So that means she has some, for the main staff, the other assistant registrar, she's senior over all of the other assistant registrars.
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There are four others.
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So she's senior over that and then Richard and then myself.
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Thank you.
Clara Belle Wheeler
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So do her job responsibilities change or she's changed from what she was doing before the staff title?
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
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No, no, but she's doing a lot more.
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And doing it full time.
SPEAKER_12
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So who will be leading early voting?
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
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Who will be responsible for early voting in the process?
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The whole offices, but me in general, but the entire offices.
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We're not, it's not just going to start in person.
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But we have more people to actually be in there than we did early voting.
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Oh, I couldn't see you over there.
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I'm in the corner.
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Diana McNeil, do you have an organizational chart to that?
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Because it is confusing to me.
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I do have one.
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I gave one to HR, but I can produce it.
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That would be great.
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So what will you do?
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Will you bring it to a meeting?
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Will you post it?
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What do you think?
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I can bring it to the next meeting, but that's a long time.
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Is that okay?
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I can do that.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
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Great.
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Any other?
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Dr. Wheeler.
Clara Belle Wheeler
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Thank you.
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Good morning, Claribel Wheeler.
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His excellent question on reimbursement with the special election cost.
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Did you not submit cost for the 45 days of in-person absentee?
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and for the cost of, you said mailing, but did that include the additional staff, offices of election to package and actually get the ballots ready to mail out?
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I know there was a lot of activity with that.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
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It included some part-time work, but part of it was not recorded.
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So, I mean, was not recorded in a way that we were comfortable reporting those numbers.
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So we're just not going to report the numbers if we can't prove them.
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So that's what our stance had to be.
Clara Belle Wheeler
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I'm confused.
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Do you not know what you paid for the registrar's assistants who worked 45 days, part-time shifts, et cetera, 45 days of in-person absentee voting?
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I know there are a lot of people who actually worked.
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I hopefully got paid.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
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But some of them didn't just work early voting.
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Some of them did other things that we did not reimburse for.
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So it was very hard to parse out single dollar that was only early voting versus not only early voting.
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That was difficult and it was not really important.
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So what we're gonna do, we've talked about this at length.
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And so what we're gonna do next time is we're gonna make sure that our reports come out of ADT and not out of staff generated.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
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Your previous estimate was about $140,000 had been spent on this.
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And it sounds like you submitted for $100,000.
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So it's 70%.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
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Yeah, it was pretty good.
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But we just could not submit for what we couldn't prove, especially systematically.
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So we couldn't clearly prove, let's put it that way.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
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We have much anticipation to see how much you get.
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Exactly.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
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So did you have a follow-up?
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Sounds like you do.
Clara Belle Wheeler
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I do have another question for Ms. McNeil's question.
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Could you put the staff maybe on the website so that the general public will know who's working and what they do if they have a question?
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Sure.
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That might help the public.
SPEAKER_12
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Thank you.
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Yes, sir.
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Yeah, I understand you're right.
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Reimbursement.
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You don't expect to get a very large percentage, which you turn in reimbursed.
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So trying to turn in everything can be irrelevant.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
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It's not irrelevant.
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It's just you're only going to get a percentage back, and you want to have hard numbers that you can certainly withstand any kind of audit.
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I believe the state included $5 million in its allocation statewide.
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You know, that wasn't going to cover Fairfax.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
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If we had submitted everything, that would have been 234,000.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
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Oh, so your number went up on the last time we grew up.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
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Yes, it's 234,000 for the election.
Clara Belle Wheeler
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Did you say that again slowly?
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
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234, just over 234,000.
Clara Belle Wheeler
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For this special election.
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Correct.
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Thank you.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
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All right, any further questions?
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Then let us move on.
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We've got some minutes to approve.
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Jim, over to you.
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
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I move approval first of the April 9th minutes.
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All in favor, say aye.
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Aye.
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Approve.
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I wish I could get it all on one page.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
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Better to be complete than short.
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
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and then we have the April 21st through 27th.
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This is all the cannabis and provisional ballot meetings.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
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I have listed those on the agenda as two separate things but they're actually incorporated into one document.
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
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Any approval of these?
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
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All in favor say aye.
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Aye.
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Any opposed?
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Hearing none.
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
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I'm not sure who I'm giving them to.
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I'm giving them to Richard.
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And then we have the May 14th minutes.
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Our last regular meeting.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
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Move approvals.
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All in favor, say aye.
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Aye.
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Aye.
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Any opposed?
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Hearing none, they are approved.
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Very good.
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Thank you, sir.
SPEAKER_12
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Election Office Accounting Report.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
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We did most of that.
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So if there's any other questions, because I was going to cover the reimbursements.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
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Expenseless issue for us today.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
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It's the same as the last one.
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The reason being is I haven't started calculating the expenses for this report yet, for this particular election.
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So they're pretty much the same as last time.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
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I meant looking at your monthly county outlay.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
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Oh, I'm sorry.
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I didn't do that.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
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If you could send that around to us, that'd be great.
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Thank you.
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Any questions on that before we move on?
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OK. Review and disposition of old board materials and warehouses.
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We're going to make this squarely Alex's mistake that he's not here to defend himself.
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
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He's up there somewhere where he was.
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I hope he's up there.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
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I can say that it hasn't changed.
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
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I know where the box is.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
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They're exactly in the same place.
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I know where the box is.
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Perhaps tomorrow you can just have a gander at it to see where we are.
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
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We added EX on to that too.
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I'm sorry?
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Boxes.
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Boxes?
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I thought there was only one.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
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So that perhaps is wishful thinking.
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Word materials has that plural feel to it too.
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Right, the schedule for the prima thing.
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What's going on?
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
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Yeah, so I want to set first.
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I have this electronically.
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I think I'm going to be, I'm not sure if it's from Jim.
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
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Same thing as this, right?
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
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Yeah, that's what we printed out.
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Yeah, I shared it electronically when I updated.
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So the thing, the questions that I had for the board is they are in July.
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is by, I put count tentatively, I'm sorry, twice, you can see it on here, the chiefs and assistants each training on Thursday the 16th.
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I'm not sure, I was trying to get it close enough to the election, but not in the middle of LNA testing.
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So you have to let me know when.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
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Thursday the 16th works for me.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
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Does it?
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Okay, good.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
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Does it work for you guys?
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
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If that's for Mr. Sloan.
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Okay, that's fine.
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And then in my notes, I wasn't quite clear, do we also want a poll pack training
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to see what election day.
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We have one set up for early though.
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We didn't want that for election.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
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The reason was we wanted to have at least one session of that, because they're going to have the primary, no primary, you know, D or R question that everyone has to deal with.
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And the folks in free union have the, you know, D, R, fifth or seventh, which will come up automatically.
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But they need to know how to deal with folks who turn up, what is it, for the Democratic primary in the seventh congressional district.
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There is none.
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There's a tiny fraction of voters who don't have a vote.
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Of those, the ones that show up for the Democratic primary, we don't have a ballot for them.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
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I was looking to do that on the 14th.
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the poll pack training for election.
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
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And are we going to do a newbie training?
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
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I thought so.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
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Yes, we are.
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But that's usually like the Saturday before.
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Yes.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
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Well, the Saturday before, it's usually from the back then that I was looking at the 30th, the last.
SPEAKER_12
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Maybe the 12th.
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July.
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July.
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Oh, those are close.
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I know that was too close.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
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Griffin, you had a pencil in on the 29th.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
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Yeah, we moved the page checks on the 29th.
SPEAKER_12
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No, I've got page checks on the 28th.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
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There's two of them.
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There's two pages.
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That's my page check on the 28th.
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The board's page checks on the 29th.
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
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And what I have here is not right.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:15:21
Oh, then you might print it, aren't we?
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
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Here, I have it.
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Page checks on the 28th.
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Here, this is the one I printed.
SPEAKER_10
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So that's now in the 20s.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
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I assume?
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
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Yes.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:15:49
I saw the blast that went out from the county telling everyone about the early voting schedule.
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I trust you had a chance to review it before they sent it.
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It was an email blast is what they call it, where they send an email out to half the county who signed up for it.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
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and it was, for folks who have signed up for that, it was all about the election, the election day, it would have all the deadlines listed, we talked about the construction and there as well, we're asking people to be careful about that.
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So it was very similar to the one we did last time, but we presented it differently so it's easier to read out.
SPEAKER_07
00:16:29
I received those and I had one concern, which was they said early voting is open from June 18th through whenever it ends.
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It didn't say that we weren't going to be open on the 19th.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
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I think it was at the bottom of that section.
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Should have been in there, because in our proof, because we were, I understand what you're saying, because we were very clear about that.
Laurie Jones
Voter Protection Coordinator
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I was concerned about that.
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I think they might have missed, or I missed it.
SPEAKER_07
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I've got it right here.
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Let me check and see, because I looked really closely thinking that you guys are going to have a lot of people, oh, you won't even be here, because you were on vacation.
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A lot of people are going to be showing up on that Friday, but it's my biggest concern.
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We're going to sign on that.
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Just a quick look at it.
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I don't see anything since the 19th.
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Okay.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:17:17
So, then I will ask.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:17:18
I was mentioning in the 19th is people will just see it and go, oh, the 19th.
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I think they can vote then too.
Laurie Jones
Voter Protection Coordinator
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Something about the county office said buildings were going to be closed the 19th but it did not say there would be no voting.
SPEAKER_12
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So, we'll make that clear.
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If you repeat the date for the achievement, is this the chief training?
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Absolutely.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
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July 16th.
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July 16th.
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July 16th.
SPEAKER_12
00:17:49
Okay, it's 15th.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:17:51
It's the 14th.
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I do want to mention a couple of other things about this.
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Yes, please.
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Thank you for making it.
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I thought about sending you a note, but I forgot.
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Thank you for that.
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So just want to reiterate, so we will be in room A, and the office will have a presence also.
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We're changing it a little bit so that the chief can see curbside voting.
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So we're gonna move it on the other side.
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We want the chief to see the whole- Look out.
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Absolutely.
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As opposed to having people sneak up behind them.
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Correct, exactly.
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So that's gonna be just a big change there.
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there, just the look of the room.
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So we'll be setting it up probably, well, the night before.
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There's an event in that room the day before, so we'll just be setting it up by night.
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So I just want to tell folks about that.
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I also want to mention just a couple of numbers about voting.
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Okay, so for the number of mail-in absentee for the Democratic Party, we have 48, 4853.
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For the Republican Party, we have 944.
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So we are
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We are working on putting those ballots together now.
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We're actually about a third of the way through the staff senate.
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Terrific job, terrific job.
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Yes, so we'll see what happens during in-person, what that looks like.
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The other thing I wanted to mention is these numbers here.
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I always put these out as far as our- Can I interject something?
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Yes, absolutely.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:19:49
To that point, Jim, you might, also you might possibly otherwise infer that a lot of the folks who would get Republican ballots simply didn't want to indicate which kind of ballot they wanted to get because we do usually send out far more absentee ballots than that.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:20:04
So that'll be interesting to see that part.
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I also want to mention too that, oh, the balance.
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So we have the folder balance and we have 11,000 of them.
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The reason it's so many is because they come in packs of 100.
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So even in some precincts where there's only four people, and that's true, I have to order under.
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There's 18.
00:20:29
So that's why that number is higher.
00:20:31
I'm sorry.
00:20:32
I'm going to echo.
00:20:32
I need to talk louder.
00:20:34
I'm sorry.
00:20:34
So I was talking about the ballots.
00:20:36
We have about, we ordered 11,000 ballots.
00:20:40
The reason the number was so high is because even if you have only four people in a precinct right now registered to get a ballot, you have to order 100 for that precinct because you can't just order four.
00:20:55
So there are a lot of precincts that are like that where I had to round up.
00:20:59
and sometimes it was rounding up 100, sometimes it was rounding up a little bit more than 100 because they might be at 292 and I probably, rather than 300, I don't know the word.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:21:08
Because you'll get more requests.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:21:10
Correct.
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
00:21:11
So that's- So you ordered 11,000 folded, though.
00:21:14
Correct.
00:21:16
11,000.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:21:20
That's 61 different categories to pick from.
00:21:23
You start out with 6100 before you've even added a second packet to each one.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:21:27
Yes.
00:21:28
What Bucky is saying is we have 61 ballot styles because we have 31 ballots for the Republican primary because there's a split in 602.
00:21:39
Some people vote the fifth and some people vote the seventh.
00:21:42
and then in the Democratic primary, there are only 30.
00:21:45
So we have 61 ballot styles.
00:21:47
And for people who are not aware, those are two, considered two completely separate elections.
00:21:52
So, and that's how they're set up.
00:21:54
So that's why there's so many ballot styles and so many ballots.
00:21:57
So also to mention for the thumb drives, just right, Cliff, chain something with those.
00:22:05
We, I just shouldn't.
00:22:08
got all the media done for all the way through November.
00:22:11
So they've set us up for, not just for the primary, but for the general as well.
00:22:16
And then all of the light blue thumb drives are DS-300s and all of the
00:22:26
I'm sorry, I know what you're saying.
00:22:28
I'm sorry, express phones, not, I mean, what they did was we set up to having, what I meant to say, we're set up to having.
SPEAKER_12
00:22:35
You haven't configured them yet because you don't know who's going to win them.
00:22:38
No, you can't configure them, exactly.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:22:39
Okay, bring it together.
00:22:40
So all of the light blue thumb drives go to the DS300s and all of the dark blue thumb drives go to the express phones.
00:22:47
So it's a lot clearer for you.
00:22:49
So if you know you have a dark blue one, it's an express room.
00:22:52
So we set that up that way.
00:22:53
Sounds good.
00:22:56
Oh, sorry, one other thing.
00:22:59
These voters, the registered voters.
00:23:02
So for May, we have 85,065 active voters.
00:23:14
5,336 inactive.
00:23:20
for a total of 90,401 voters.
00:23:24
The new voters we have for May is 192, and the net new is 96.
00:23:33
For deceased, we had for May and June, 122 people deceased from all of May and up to the state.
00:23:42
And then for out of state, we have 27.
00:23:44
We had no felonies, no
00:23:46
non-citizen cancellations, no mentally incapacitated, out of state, other, we had 27.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:23:51
Speaking of felonies, what was the decision name?
00:23:56
Oh, I think certain felonies are down as well.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:24:00
Yes.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:24:00
How is that affecting what you have to do?
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:24:03
Well, what we've done right now is we are not denying any felons right now.
00:24:08
We're not denying any applications yet until we clearly read
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:24:12
That's what the state has told you to do.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:24:14
Yes, exactly.
00:24:15
And so they've given it, but since then, they sent the list of the felonies that would lead to a denial.
00:24:23
But we're not there to say, we want to make sure we understand it clearly.
00:24:27
We probably have a couple of questions for our liaison about it before we start.
00:24:30
We haven't denied any felons.
00:24:32
We've left them there.
00:24:33
They're just inactive.
00:24:34
So we haven't denied anybody.
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
00:24:36
My understanding is that the state has offered little to no guidance on this so far.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:24:42
I would say it's confusing guidance.
00:24:45
It's a very long list of felonies and the explanation is a bit confusing.
00:24:51
Several registrars, there's a lot of talk among registrars about how to handle it and what it is.
00:24:56
So it's a big conversation right now.
00:25:00
But we have not denied any felonies since we were told to.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:25:05
On another decision, the agreement that came down for registering college students, that doesn't affect us.
00:25:13
I mean, we weren't party to that.
00:25:15
We weren't.
00:25:16
We were not.
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
00:25:16
Yeah, OK. All right.
00:25:17
I still intend to go to the UVA host office.
00:25:23
And I'd like to take our street file and say exactly what
00:25:29
kind of address do you want?
00:25:31
Because I think what they want is 355 Avenue, not 455 McCormick Road.
00:25:39
It's all this range like it was, but I'd like to get straight from them.
00:25:48
What on here do you want us to do?
00:25:50
Or do you have your own street file that we need?
00:25:54
Something like that.
00:25:55
Certainly my intention is to try to follow up on that because we did have some problems with provisionals from the VA and the national election.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:26:09
And I also mentioned, oh, I'm sorry.
Laurie Jones
Voter Protection Coordinator
00:26:12
Lori.
00:26:12
I just didn't want to move too far forward.
00:26:14
Go ahead.
00:26:15
Two quick things.
00:26:16
Sure.
00:26:16
What is net new?
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:26:18
That's the, we had new, but it's the number.
Laurie Jones
Voter Protection Coordinator
00:26:24
It's the- What was taken away from the new to make a net new?
00:26:28
I mean, usually net means you had- You subtracted something out.
00:26:32
Right, you had this number and then subtracted something out.
00:26:35
And I couldn't figure out what got subtracted out to make it net new.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:26:41
You know, I'm gonna have to see it.
00:26:42
You know what I mean?
00:26:43
It's the exact same number.
Laurie Jones
Voter Protection Coordinator
00:26:44
Clearly we added 192 and we subtracted, I mean deceased does 122, but that doesn't make 96.
00:26:51
So, you know, we have subtracted a total of 149 minus 192.
00:26:55
Is that, no?
00:26:56
No, let me think of that out.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:27:01
I understand what you're saying.
00:27:04
Okay, yeah.
00:27:04
Why isn't that the 96?
00:27:05
Because it's what got taken out, yeah.
00:27:08
I got you.
00:27:08
What's the balance that makes it that?
00:27:10
Thank you, yeah.
Laurie Jones
Voter Protection Coordinator
00:27:11
And then just you all moved on to the college dorm settlement or consent decree.
00:27:21
I know that the case itself, I was following it, and the case itself was not, Albemarle was not involved.
00:27:28
I just want to make sure everybody was clear, like you said.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:27:32
I just wonder if there were any decision issues that came out of that at a state level.
Laurie Jones
Voter Protection Coordinator
00:27:37
They told the state to come up with some regulations.
00:27:40
But the case itself had to do with registering voters, as I know you all know.
00:27:47
And I would just hope that by the time we're processing
00:27:51
Visional ballots, hopefully you'll have some clarification on what with regard to same day registration is impacted by this decision. So for instance, I know if what was happening is there were counties that were getting a student registration form that for instance didn't have a dorm number on it maybe. And that registrar said, I'm not going to register you to vote because of that. And so that's why the lawsuit got filed. Thank you. Thank you.
00:28:19
All right, so we know we can't do that, but when you get the same day registration and the provisional ballots and those forms, if they don't have a dorm number, is it going to be handled similarly to a registration form?
00:28:32
You know what I mean?
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:28:33
It's kind of- We'll see a better test than we will in August.
Laurie Jones
Voter Protection Coordinator
00:28:36
Hopefully you'll have clarification by then.
00:28:39
Right, I don't think it's going to be a big issue, August, but I would just hope that there'd be some clarification of are we going to, I assume,
00:28:49
The rule will continue from registering voters to same-day registration.
00:28:54
It should be similar.
00:28:57
But I don't think that the consent decree dealt with that specifically.
00:29:00
So I just wanted to raise it that hopefully they'll give you some clarification on that, because our opinions should flow through.
00:29:10
It's the same reasoning.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:29:11
But statewide, we should all be doing the same thing.
Laurie Jones
Voter Protection Coordinator
00:29:15
That's the whole reason the case came in, is we weren't all doing it the same.
00:29:21
Thank you for bringing that up.
SPEAKER_01
00:29:22
Go ahead.
00:29:22
Oh, sure.
00:29:23
Just a quick question.
00:29:24
On cancellations, the total of 149, is that already pulled apart as a total of 90,000?
00:29:30
Yes, it is.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:29:31
Thank you.
00:29:34
I do want to mention all of those.
00:29:35
To mention the laws, thank you for saying that.
00:29:37
The Department of Elections held a webinar a couple of weeks ago.
00:29:42
They went through all of it.
00:29:46
I wanted to let people know that.
00:29:49
For the beginning, it's like the first eight days or so of early voting will be under the current set-up.
00:29:55
And then on January 1st, we'll switch to the new set-up.
00:30:01
And then January 1st, we'll be switching to another new set-up.
00:30:05
So there's a lot going on there.
00:30:08
So I could offer, I know Rick has already asked for it, the slides that the Department of Elections sent out, I could send those to whoever would like those.
00:30:18
There's some pretty good, there's not a lot of explanation, but they do point to the law.
00:30:23
They do give you the deadlines and when the law is actually
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:30:26
We do have the PowerPoint that Andrea prepared for the last time.
00:30:32
That'll be attached to the May 14th minutes when they're posted.
SPEAKER_12
00:30:35
Yes, absolutely.
00:30:36
I would very much like the slides, because I do have a webinar.
00:30:41
They move on so fast through it sometimes, I couldn't even put the number of the bill before they were onto the next slide.
00:30:46
Yes, absolutely.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:30:48
So for some good reading there, certainly a lot of it.
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
00:30:54
I have a couple questions on those laws for Andrea.
SPEAKER_07
00:30:57
I was just going to say for those of us who are working early voting, will we have guidance on what laws are here and what laws are there?
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:31:05
Yes.
SPEAKER_07
00:31:05
Is it going to be something that's definitely going to affect some of us?
00:31:10
Yes.
00:31:10
So we'll have that guidance from you guys.
00:31:12
Yes, absolutely.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:31:13
One of the first things is the Sunday voting.
00:31:15
Right.
00:31:15
So we have, it affects all of us.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:31:19
Starts after July 1.
00:31:20
That's when it would have started.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:31:23
Oh, go ahead.
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
00:31:25
My major question was the new law on guns.
00:31:31
I don't think we've addressed this in the last meeting.
00:31:34
Does that one go into effect July 1?
SPEAKER_12
00:31:37
I'm going to check.
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
00:31:38
This is the 100 foot limit for guns.
00:31:41
And here's the conundrum.
00:31:46
John drives his F-150 with the gun rack in the back, up into the parking lot,
00:31:52
Park and Get Out and Vote, and his car is parked 60 feet from the front of the building.
00:32:01
There's no way we can police that.
00:32:03
I mean, if he has a gun rack with a rifle on it and the back of his truck.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:32:06
We're going to be issuing laser distance measures.
Laurie Jones
Voter Protection Coordinator
00:32:09
Or drive-up voting.
00:32:15
Your exact same scenario, but drive-up voting.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:32:17
Fortunately, we don't see gun racks like we used to.
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
00:32:19
But I just don't see that there's any way that we can do anything about enforcing the 100-foot rule.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:32:30
The other question that was outstanding is will there be any signage or notice requirements that the state pushes down to us, and we don't think we've heard anything about that yet.
Andrea Ruege
Senior Assistant County Attorney
00:32:38
There wasn't a requirement, but that was part of the presentation I had done that we might want to consider.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:32:43
Great.
00:32:44
I'll wait until the state gives us, because in some places, 100 feet won't still be on the same piece of property, neuron.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:32:52
We do have a new prohibitive poster.
00:32:54
I haven't gotten it, but there is an intimate one.
00:32:56
It's an intimate one.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:32:58
Well, it doesn't have to be close enough to read the poster.
00:33:00
You're definitely right.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:33:01
Stay into close.
00:33:02
Absolutely.
00:33:03
A couple of other things there.
00:33:05
Yes.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:33:05
Out of the hotwash that we had, we talked about putting together a manual for early voting.
00:33:14
So what that manual is going to look like, it's going to be small.
00:33:18
Two people have already volunteered to help with that, which I think is terrific.
00:33:24
And so we made it clear during the hotwash that we would not have it available.
00:33:31
The manual wouldn't be ready by early voting.
00:33:34
There was just no way we could get it done.
00:33:35
However, what we're gonna do is as many one-sheeters as we can.
00:33:39
We'll do a one-sheeter about if somebody brings in an absentee ballot, and what's the processes for that?
00:33:47
That was what you guys talked about.
00:33:49
The gold form.
00:33:50
Yeah, we're gonna do that.
00:33:52
The ones that are the bigger ones that are really clear, we're gonna really do those first, and then we're just gonna roll it out as early voting happens, the actual physical pages of it.
00:34:05
and then what the hope is by early voting, by the end of early voting, we actually do have a manual for that, yes.
SPEAKER_12
00:34:11
So will these be just sheets for things that are different for early voting versus from regular voting?
00:34:19
From Election Day voting, yeah.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:34:21
Some, yes, but then some of them will be things that people have asked for.
00:34:23
They've asked for it.
00:34:24
Had any clarification on this?
00:34:26
Can you show us this?
00:34:27
Can you show us that?
00:34:28
So we're just going to look at this.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:34:34
And I ask that for the early voting orientation, one of the points you make is that bit about the tiny number of voters who don't have a primary in case someone from free union shows up at early voting to vote.
00:34:50
Everyone else gets a chance, but not those guys, because there is no primary for them if they select the Democrat.
00:34:57
So we need to be sensitized to that and not get confused.
00:35:03
and it may not occur because it's so few people but still I'd rather be ready for the problem before it occurs.
00:35:10
If a voter shows up to vote and there is no primary for them to vote in.
00:35:16
Obviously the folks in free union we will sensitize them to that before the election.
00:35:22
All right, any other questions for Jonell?
00:35:27
The next thing is revisiting the officer of election half-day shift idea.
00:35:34
Jim, you are going to provide us with a report from Charlottesville who are currently doing this.
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
00:35:39
Yes, I've talked to the chief deputy registrar in Charlottesville at length about how they do shift election official work.
00:35:50
First question was do you make people come up with their own other half
00:35:57
and the answer was, nope, not at all.
00:36:00
So people just sign up.
00:36:02
He said, sometimes I have to move people over.
00:36:04
He's also the one that does the assignment.
00:36:06
Have to move people around because of an imbalance.
00:36:10
Too many afternoon people, not enough morning people, something like that.
00:36:15
I said, what portion of your collection officers do the shift work?
00:36:21
Well, number one, chiefs, assistant chiefs and specialists have to work all day.
00:36:28
Otherwise, he said it's about 70-30, he thought.
00:36:33
70% that do shift work.
00:36:36
He said it varies greatly between precincts.
00:36:40
There are some precincts where almost everybody does, I'm allowed to, everybody does the shift and there are a precinct or two where everybody works full day.
00:36:54
As far as the statement of results, yes.
00:36:58
The people that work in the morning, they will sign the statement of results and next to their signature, they will put left at 1 p.m.
00:37:08
I think they do it one hour overlay there.
00:37:14
And the people that didn't come until noon, next to their name, they will put again at noon.
00:37:22
I know there is an opinion that that's not legal, but that's what they do.
SPEAKER_01
00:37:28
So they're signing a blank statement of results, people who leave in the morning.
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
00:37:33
But they're putting that notation next to it as to when they left.
00:37:38
Signifying, I believe, they would say, OK, I saw everything up until 1 o'clock.
00:37:45
I think everything up till 1 o'clock was OK.
00:37:51
So that's the way they do it.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:37:53
And did he venture, he or she venture, any concerns about filling the slots?
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
00:38:01
Nope, didn't say anything about that.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:38:04
And do you know what the motivation was for them to go to that?
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
00:38:08
I do not, as they went to several years ago.
00:38:14
I will mention, I did like Rick's
00:38:24
Suggestion at our last meeting that maybe we do it as a pilot project and a couple of precincts.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:38:33
See how it goes.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:38:35
See how it goes.
00:38:36
At this point, my suggestion would be we just put a pin in this until we fill the election manager spot, because there will be more to do associated with that.
00:38:46
And I don't want to add to the flurry while that's in transition.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:38:51
Can I ask one question, too?
00:38:54
Mm-hmm.
00:38:54
Do you know if they had a pool from a pool of people that were former election officials that maybe just didn't work a whole day anymore?
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
00:39:05
I didn't ask that specifically, but I imagine that's true.
SPEAKER_03
00:39:11
But their impression was that it's a smooth system for them.
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
00:39:16
It works for them.
00:39:18
As we have said before, the smaller the locality, the kind of easier it is to do because you're dealing with fewer election officials.
00:39:29
I don't know how many officials or slots they have altogether, but probably less than half of what we have, I think.
SPEAKER_12
00:39:41
OK.
00:39:42
Question.
00:39:46
Yes, sir.
00:39:50
Was there any concern that once this became available, you would have a very, very large number of people who had worked all day before say they want to now work only a part day?
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:40:04
I think there's a certainty that that will happen to some extent and then the question is how do you backfill that?
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
00:40:12
That has always been the staff concern, the staff historically when this has been brought up before.
00:40:19
Just not enthusiastic about it because we've already got 500 people on our
00:40:26
Our roster is now we're going to have to add all these other people.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:40:31
Yeah, the number of folks you have to manage will increase significantly.
00:40:35
You've got to train them all.
00:40:37
So some of your fixed costs grow.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:40:41
Do you mention the pay?
00:40:43
Is it exactly half?
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
00:40:45
I didn't ask you.
00:40:47
I guess.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:40:54
All right.
00:40:54
Anything else on that?
00:40:57
We didn't have anything under new business this time with the impending primary kind of soaking up most of our attention.
00:41:04
Under other items though, Jim, I think you have at least one, maybe two things.
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
00:41:09
I have one thing for sure.
SPEAKER_10
00:41:15
And I'm wondering, Alex was on when you opened that up, but I don't see one of the names over on the side.
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
00:41:25
I don't see him now.
00:41:29
Alex, are you there?
Clara Belle Wheeler
00:41:30
I don't see him.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:41:37
This is the list of all the participants unless he's the Samsung.
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
00:41:42
Well, I was hoping he said he was.
SPEAKER_07
00:41:46
I can text him.
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
00:41:48
It's okay.
SPEAKER_07
00:41:50
Yeah.
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
00:41:50
Let's move forward.
SPEAKER_12
00:41:51
Yeah.
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
00:41:53
I would like to present a resolution
00:41:57
Resolution of Commendation and Appreciation.
00:42:01
It says, whereas the Albemarle County Electoral Board recognizes the dedicated public service of Alexander Branch who has faithfully served the Albemarle County Office of Voter Registration and Elections with professionalism, integrity, and a steadfast commitment to the fair administration of elections, and whereas
00:42:24
Throughout his tenure, Alex Branch has consistently demonstrated a strong work ethic and exemplary support to voters, colleagues, and the community.
00:42:34
And where at?
00:42:36
Alex Branch has made significant contributions to the smooth operation of the electoral board, including preparations of all voting equipment and supplies and assignments of officers of elections to their precincts.
00:42:49
and whereas the electoral board wishes to acknowledge and express gratitude for Alex Branch's service upon his departure to pursue a new professional opportunity and whereas while the board is saddened to see Alex Branch leave, it also recognizes and celebrates the advancement of Alex's career and the positive impact he will continue to make in his new role.
00:43:14
Now therefore be it resolved that the Albemarle County Electoral Board formally commends Alex Branch for his outstanding service and contributions to the administration of elections.
00:43:24
Be it further resolved that the board extends its sincere appreciation and best wishes to Alex Branch for success as the General Registrar and Director of Elections for the City of Waynesboro.
00:43:37
and be it finally resolved that this resolution is entered into the official minutes of the board and presented to Alex Branch as a lasting token of the board's gratitude.
00:43:48
I so move.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:43:51
Is there any discussion?
00:43:53
None.
00:43:53
All those in favor say aye.
00:43:55
Aye.
00:43:56
Any opposed?
00:43:58
Hearing none, we get a chance to affix our signature to this motion.
00:44:03
Alex, as the
00:44:06
sole continuing staff member from last year, really a lot of knowledge and functionality with him and helped keep us going during a very difficult time.
00:44:21
And we were sad to see him go and, you know, Waynesboro gets the benefit of his expertise now.
00:44:30
Here we go, Jim.
00:44:33
Okay.
00:44:34
All right.
00:44:35
Is there any other business?
Clara Belle Wheeler
00:44:38
Did you have a question?
00:44:40
I do.
00:44:41
When you ran through the new business, I was hoping you were going to address the last item, follow up on the DS-300 with the logs, new repair.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:44:52
I don't show that on my new business list.
00:44:57
I think then I've got.
00:44:58
You have a June 11th agenda?
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:45:01
okay do we have any let me just ask you know you want to give us a report on what happened with the um you mean from you sent us a note after the last meeting and we had gotten three more loaner machines yes coming out of the meeting that we had um a couple of over a month ago now um they sent us three more loaners so we have six loaners total and the machine that went down
00:45:25
I'm Stone Robinson.
00:45:27
Are those three loaners replacements for the three that were broken or in addition replacements for the one that was broken?
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:45:35
Hang on.
00:45:38
For machines prior to this election, of the April 21st election, all of the machines that broke then were replaced.
00:45:46
And they sent us three additional liners.
00:45:49
And now we've gotten three more liners.
00:45:51
So we have a total of six liners.
00:45:53
And the only question was, did we get a replacement machine for the Stone-Robinson machine?
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:45:57
Yes, and we'll check that today.
SPEAKER_12
00:45:59
That's all at no charge to you.
00:46:01
Correct.
00:46:02
Those are the time and effort.
00:46:03
No charge.
Clara Belle Wheeler
00:46:06
Have they resolved?
00:46:08
Why this happened to Albemarle, but in other places?
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:46:11
Conveniently enough, at the last election, it was just us.
Clara Belle Wheeler
00:46:16
And they confirmed that.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:46:18
And they confirmed that.
00:46:19
We were the only ones who've had more than one event.
00:46:22
You feel special.
00:46:25
I feel like while they don't think there's a batch numbering problem, all of the machines we have came in a certain time frame.
00:46:33
So I suspect there might be more of an issue there than not.
00:46:36
Anyway, they figured out the software patch for this by simply, and they're continuing to test that because they have our machines now that will fail repeatedly.
00:46:46
They try them with new software and the test is real simple.
00:46:49
Just try again.
00:46:51
and then it works so there's a small timing problem that you know the kids they hiccup in the timing and then it works so they needed to test that exhaustively to make sure that was good and then the process for
00:47:03
Apparently the process for sending out a software update to DS-300s is much more involved at the state level than sending out a hardware update.
00:47:11
So that will not be available till next year sometime.
00:47:14
Whereas if they were just patching a piece of hardware and sending out a new module, they can just send them out, plug them in, they'd be good to go.
00:47:20
They'd be ready by November.
00:47:22
Won't be the case.
00:47:24
So that's where we are.
00:47:26
That's what we know.
Clara Belle Wheeler
00:47:29
And I had one other question about election day.
00:47:34
and I did not know this at the last meeting.
00:47:38
Was there a discrepancy at least one polling place between the number of voters that checked in on the poll pads and the number of ballots that were reported on the public ballot count?
00:47:54
Is that an accurate?
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:47:56
Now you're asking me to remember off the top of my head and the answer is I don't remember.
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
00:48:00
I think I remember one.
00:48:02
but I don't remember what precinct it was or exactly what the issue was.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:48:09
We didn't have any outstanding questions by the time we certified the election.
00:48:15
But I don't remember those details now two months later.
00:48:24
Anything else?
00:48:25
Yes, ma'am.
Clara Belle Wheeler
00:48:27
Do you think there was a dispute at something?
00:48:30
I don't know.
00:48:31
That's why I'm asking the court.
00:48:33
People report things and you don't know whether they're accurate or not or misunderstood or not.
00:48:41
So my understanding was that at some point during the day, and I don't know whether, I think it was during the day,
00:48:52
when numbers were reported, because they'd call the registrar and report the poll pad numbers versus the public count numbers.
00:49:01
And they were off by over 100.
00:49:05
I can understand one or two.
00:49:06
Oh, no, no, no, no.
00:49:07
I don't recall anything like that.
00:49:09
I'm sure that's why I'm asking.
00:49:11
Where'd you get that information?
00:49:14
Just a report from someone who was in the precinct.
00:49:17
We were not aware of anything like that.
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
00:49:23
I think the one I think it was there was off by one.
Laurie Jones
Voter Protection Coordinator
00:49:25
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.
00:49:27
I was wondering early voting that there was an off by one and then it got resolved.
00:49:31
Yes, yes.
00:49:32
There was one and they were there observing, but that was one and I know that one got resolved.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:49:41
She's hiding one under a piece of paper.
Laurie Jones
Voter Protection Coordinator
00:49:42
Listing them.
Clara Belle Wheeler
00:49:46
But the reason I ask is that in another locality, they were off by 153.
00:49:54
No, if we'd been off by 100, I'd remember that.
SPEAKER_03
00:50:01
I'm glad that you brought it up.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:50:04
We'd have talked to a lot of officers of election.
SPEAKER_03
00:50:06
Right, exactly.
00:50:07
It would be in the minutes.
00:50:11
If that was being spoken of somewhere, I'm glad you brought it up to the board.
00:50:17
so we could clear it out.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:50:20
Our next meeting is scheduled for July the 9th.
00:50:23
The next regular meeting is scheduled for July the 9th.
00:50:26
I don't see any reason to call a meeting before that.
00:50:29
And with that said, I think the next thing we do is we'll go into an executive session.
00:50:40
Can we just close the meeting?
00:50:41
Unless you have something else to say.
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
00:50:43
What are we going to start tomorrow?
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:50:44
Oh, it's 8 o'clock.
00:50:47
It's an 8 a.m. start.
Jim Heilman
Secretary, Electoral Board
00:50:49
We do it at 8 a.m. start.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:50:50
Yes.
00:50:50
We mean Bucky.
00:50:52
Bucky is starting.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:50:56
I'll probably be.
00:50:57
Ours is not to question why.
Clara Belle Wheeler
00:51:00
As far as the Chairman, also one of the questions about scheduling and you've juggled it here.
00:51:07
When is LNA testing?
00:51:09
Is it full pads?
00:51:11
and for the DS-300s and for the person absentee and the regular.
00:51:15
You've got several pods of LA guests.
00:51:19
Is that scheduled then?
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:51:20
We have testing for early voting equipment scheduled for tomorrow for the express votes in the DS-300s and for the precinct machines.
00:51:32
I don't remember off the top of my head what the date is.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:51:34
It is July 24th.
00:51:35
Yeah, 24th.
00:51:36
24th, right.
Clara Belle Wheeler
00:51:40
And what about the polls?
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:51:45
Pollpads we do configuration testing for.
00:51:47
And I don't know when that's scheduled for the general election.
SPEAKER_12
00:51:56
Can we do what I'm saying, Dave?
00:51:57
Should we do it separately?
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:51:59
We need to do it separately.
SPEAKER_12
00:52:00
Yeah, we got that.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:52:02
We'll do the final configuration testing for the pollpads on the Sunday before the election.
00:52:08
Right, that's listed.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:52:10
Thank God we don't have Sunday voting on that Sunday.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:52:35
Anything to do there.
00:52:37
These machines are going to be running the same operating system and the same version of the software.
00:52:41
So there is no pre-configuration that needs to be done other than downloading the data to them for this election.
00:52:49
So we'll do that on the Sunday before the election.
00:52:53
And I can't tell you what time we'll do that, but it'll be unpleasantly early, I'm sure.
Clara Belle Wheeler
00:52:58
And when will you be doing the bulk and without the pre-processing?
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:53:05
We need to do configuration testing for the poll pads for early voting as well as for CAP.
00:53:11
And I don't know when that's going to be scheduled.
00:53:14
Richard will have to tell us.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:53:16
We need the testing tomorrow.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:53:18
We've got testing tomorrow.
00:53:19
We'll test the express votes and the DS300.
00:53:21
Oh.
00:53:24
You can look at the configuration of the poll pads then.
00:53:26
Why not?
00:53:27
OK, good.
00:53:30
OK. And then we'll have to do the same thing again before we fire up CAP.
00:53:35
Yes.
00:53:36
For the equipment that's going to them.
00:53:47
I would imagine you're not expecting to kick off the cap until later in the process.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:53:52
Right.
00:53:52
The earliest would be the 15th of July.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:53:58
OK.
00:53:58
Anything else?
00:54:01
I thank everyone for coming and participating.
00:54:06
We'll be going into the executive session.
00:54:08
Do we have any new EOs to consider?
00:54:12
Okay, so we're likely to have one piece of business come out and that's to approve new EOs, but otherwise we don't anticipate any other business to be conducted after the close part of the meeting.
00:54:23
Thank you all very much.
00:54:24
If those on the call would drop off, we're going to take about a 10-minute break here in the room.
SPEAKER_12
00:54:36
Sorry.
SPEAKER_10
00:54:40
I rang the accident.
SPEAKER_12
00:54:44
You know, what situation I've been in.
00:54:59
I just want to make sure...
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:55:14
I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_12
00:55:18
You go by Rick.
00:55:22
Mike.
00:55:28
Mike, yeah.
00:55:37
It's so much better than trying to, now you gotta bring the coffee back and everything.
SPEAKER_10
00:55:53
Yes sir, jumping right in.
SPEAKER_12
00:55:54
It looks good.
00:55:57
Each shot.
00:55:59
I might poison him, but that's gone easy.
00:56:05
Oh my God, how'd that happen?
00:56:06
Oh my gosh, we're going to be killing ourselves.
00:56:14
Yes, well, I haven't seen anybody else do that, I haven't seen any signs.
00:56:32
Yeah.
00:56:33
I mean, you're right.
00:56:34
It's the receipt.
00:56:36
I'm sorry.
00:56:37
No, I'm just saying that because I've worked earlier than I have for some years.
00:56:45
I believe that.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:57:12
It's some kind of way to get back to the person.
SPEAKER_12
00:57:16
Then back over there, one of the problems, the reason we had to have two curbside people is because you can see the curbside.
00:57:28
You can see so well, you deserve it.
SPEAKER_10
00:57:30
My number one consideration for that, especially this summer, is going to be staying hydrated.
00:57:37
My name's not on that list.
00:57:38
Sugar is doing all right.
00:57:40
That's my number one concern, the safety of everybody who's working in elections right now.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:57:44
Do they smile behind?
SPEAKER_10
00:57:45
Yes, sir, it will.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:57:46
It's not July 1 yet.
00:57:47
Oh, I see.
00:57:48
And I went to look, and I thought, where's my name?
00:57:51
You should stay there until July 1.
00:57:54
Now that's on the Department of Elections website?
00:57:56
Yes.
00:57:56
Yeah.
00:57:56
They control that, but I know exactly the training you're talking about because I've been through that before a couple of times.
SPEAKER_12
00:58:01
So how do I make sure that list is accurate all the way through June 30th of each year?
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:58:06
Does it have a contact?
00:58:09
No, I didn't see one.
00:58:10
Oh, that's going to be hard.
00:58:12
Okay, I'm just throwing that out.
00:58:14
That part I don't know.
00:58:15
Because it's going to change because the training is hard.
00:58:19
It is.
00:58:20
I'm not sure.
00:58:30
When you finish the training, is there not a contact person in there for the training and their training material?
SPEAKER_12
00:58:36
and that's a year ago, I don't remember.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:58:38
I would check.
00:58:39
I'm not sure.
00:58:40
I know it was Gary Ellison, but he was still the one that videoed, probably because I haven't seen any imitations.
00:58:47
So I know because he was the one.
SPEAKER_12
00:58:49
I don't know the answer.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:58:50
That's a good point.
SPEAKER_12
00:58:51
I'll see if there's a contact first and then deal with that.
00:58:55
None of the candidates are sponsored by the parties.
00:58:59
I need to print you in the room.
00:59:02
Yeah, I don't know.
Jonell McFadden
Director of Elections and General Registrar
00:59:05
We're not playing.
00:59:09
Excuse me.
00:59:09
Yes.
00:59:10
Let me go find them.
00:59:11
Don't do it.
SPEAKER_12
00:59:14
I'm going to email me and let me tell you that.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
00:59:39
and anyway.
00:59:41
I'm still like doing the Santa thing at Christmas time and my wife taught me a couple years ago.
SPEAKER_12
00:59:51
We have not, I'm Andrea, it's nice to meet you.
00:59:57
You're absolutely right.
00:59:59
Also, it's going to be hard to share.
01:00:02
In New Orleans, you always have Christmas on July.
01:00:05
I believe it.
Andrea Ruege
Senior Assistant County Attorney
01:00:09
Krista Gillette.
SPEAKER_12
01:00:14
You learned a lot.
SPEAKER_10
01:00:17
I continue to learn a lot.
01:00:19
I do appreciate that PowerPoint video.
Andrea Ruege
Senior Assistant County Attorney
01:00:21
Oh, good.
01:00:22
I'm glad.
SPEAKER_10
01:00:23
I'm glad.
01:00:23
Right now, I'm actually reading through the election law.
01:00:26
I only do about 40 to 50 pages a day.
01:00:28
Yeah.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
01:00:29
Well, that's a good read.
01:00:30
Yes.
01:00:30
You see my slide set on that?
01:00:32
I tried to give you the Cliffs Notes version.
01:00:35
No.
01:00:35
I've got to redo that when they reprint the edition.
01:00:39
online in on our website where we've got if you want to be an election official there's training there if you go to the training for assistant chiefs the second section is on election law and it's like some odd slides that talk about election law that pertain to running an election have nothing to do with registration and all the other stuff that registrars do right everything it has to do with running election day stuff i tried to call out and put there
SPEAKER_10
01:01:07
That's fantastic.
Andrea Ruege
Senior Assistant County Attorney
01:01:07
Before the big snowstorm that we had this year, I had, I just started with the county in May, June of last year.
01:01:15
So I've just had my one year anniversary, but the big snowstorm, I like printed on a bunch of the chapters from the, I knew I was going to be stuck.
01:01:28
I don't mind getting through as much of it as I had hoped, but you know, it's okay.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
01:01:33
It's a good thing to help go to sleep with.
Andrea Ruege
Senior Assistant County Attorney
01:01:36
I will say this though, it is not just my mind, and if I have a question, it's pretty...
SPEAKER_12
01:01:41
The GREB manual?
Andrea Ruege
Senior Assistant County Attorney
01:01:43
Yeah.
01:01:43
I think it's not a bad job.
01:01:44
Yeah, I mean, it's not the most riveting read ever, but the law is not generally.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
01:01:50
And there's some expository material that is in the law that we have to follow, because if it's promulgated by the State Board of Elections, we're equally obligated to follow those rules.
01:02:02
So it's a good starting place if you can find it.
01:02:06
But its organization is sometimes not obvious.
01:02:09
And the indexing, you know.
01:02:14
they only make available you can't download the whole thing including the cover the table of contents and an index and if you could it would be much more useful single document to have online yeah you gotta look at one chapter at a time okay
Andrea Ruege
Senior Assistant County Attorney
01:02:42
So Richard, where were you before?
01:02:44
Tell me.
SPEAKER_10
01:02:45
Hazy Mountain Winery.
Andrea Ruege
Senior Assistant County Attorney
01:02:47
Okay.
SPEAKER_10
01:02:48
I was running their distribution and wine membership program.
01:02:53
Before that, I was with Castle Hill Gaming as the Chief of Staff.
01:02:58
Before that, I was at McMillan.
01:03:01
Okay.
01:03:02
And before that, military.
Andrea Ruege
Senior Assistant County Attorney
01:03:04
All right.
01:03:06
What branch are you in?
SPEAKER_10
01:03:07
Air Force.
Andrea Ruege
Senior Assistant County Attorney
01:03:09
I moved up here from Hampton Roads, so a lot of Navy folks.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
01:03:15
Yes, the sound of freedom is... That's exactly right.
Andrea Ruege
Senior Assistant County Attorney
01:03:19
My parents lived, I grew up in that area too, my parents lived not very far from the Fentress Airfield that's down there.
01:03:26
Oh my gosh.
01:03:27
And yeah, they fly low and you always kind of knew when something was coming because it would be like the tests would really pick up and there'd be a lot of like night
01:03:34
testing and it would be like then three weeks later it'd be like oh.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
01:03:38
I was down in Virginia Beach on May 29th because I was closing up my dad's house selling it and as I came across the Hampton Roads Tunnel there were three carriers in port and sure enough there were people flying all day long because you got all those aviators you know right at the end of the month they got to get their hours in yeah
SPEAKER_10
01:04:00
It's hard to hear sometimes.
01:04:02
Every base I was stationed at was a fighter base.
01:04:05
And so I was tucked away at my very first duty station with Spangdahlem, Germany, which is a very rural area.
01:04:13
The Germans were not too keen on those late night flights.
Andrea Ruege
Senior Assistant County Attorney
01:04:16
I can imagine not.
SPEAKER_10
01:04:17
But they were even less excited when we started drawing down and closing those bases and that benefit to the economy went away.
01:04:23
I was in the Bitburg side of the house closing down that side of our base.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
01:04:30
Bit to ein bit?
SPEAKER_10
01:04:31
Bit to ein bit.
01:04:32
Bit to ein bit.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
01:04:35
More ads of that than any other alcohol I've ever seen.
SPEAKER_10
01:04:38
I was floored when I went to Cardinal Hall and I saw that they had that on tap and I was because I had it over there and I just I don't think that's a good beer.
01:04:47
Personally, I just think the kid is kicking them out.
01:04:51
And so when I saw it, I was like, does anyone actually drink this?
01:04:54
Like, yes, a lot of older folks really enjoy Bitburger.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
01:04:59
As you get older, your taste sense is dull, some of them, and more robust flavor might be better.
01:05:07
I'm not a Bitburger fan, but I have fallen into the, oh, it's the motor oil.
01:05:15
Yes, yes, yes.
01:05:18
Irish beer.
Andrea Ruege
Senior Assistant County Attorney
01:05:19
Guinness?
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
01:05:19
Guinness, yes.
Andrea Ruege
Senior Assistant County Attorney
01:05:21
I will say though, Guinness in Ireland is lovely.
01:05:24
Yes, it is.
01:05:24
When you're in Ireland, it is.
SPEAKER_03
01:05:27
What's this about Ireland?
01:05:28
I love Ireland.
Andrea Ruege
Senior Assistant County Attorney
01:05:29
I do too.
01:05:30
Guinness there is delicious.
01:05:33
You can go to the museum or the band.
01:05:35
It was awesome.
01:05:37
When I was there, I was there a lot.
01:05:38
The Jameson factory was closed.
01:05:40
We didn't get to talk about that.
01:05:42
We took that one too.
01:05:44
Friends of mine, they went there on their honeymoon and they did both of them on the same day and my parents not remember much.
SPEAKER_03
01:05:58
I love Europe.
01:05:59
I would love to move.
01:06:01
I do too.
01:06:01
I mean, just live there, you know, three months out of the year.
01:06:06
I have, we have relatives in Northern California.
01:06:08
Quick question.
SPEAKER_12
01:06:12
Okay.
01:06:12
Thanks, Jim.
SPEAKER_03
01:06:14
We have relatives in northern Italy, and it's pretty, it's not, northern Italy is not reasonable, southern Italy is, but it's, anyhow, it's just nice.
01:06:24
We love to go visit them, and everyone in the village looks exactly the same.
01:06:30
It's really funny.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
01:06:32
Your people came from there.
SPEAKER_03
01:06:34
Well, like half of my DNA is from this little village of 700 people, so when we went there,
01:06:41
for the first time.
01:06:43
We were just, oh my gosh, there's my brother.
01:06:45
It's really interesting.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
01:06:49
It was remarkable to me living in Europe for just one year.
01:06:59
The number of people I met who were multilingual and who, you know, traveled the world and the number of people I met who'd never been more than two hours from their house.
SPEAKER_10
01:07:07
Especially in England.
01:07:09
I found that fascinating.
01:07:10
I spent my first six months in McMillan at their sister company in Basingstoke and it was fascinating.
01:07:19
Like I would say, oh, I'm getting on the train and I'm going to Southampton, which is like a two hour train ride.
01:07:25
It's so far away.
01:07:27
And I'm like, you have no concept of what far is.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
01:07:29
It's like a two-hour train ride as far?
01:07:32
I was leaving Menheim at the end of the workday, and I was going to drive up to Kiel, where my family was, visiting some friends.
01:07:38
And people were looking at me and thinking, yeah, I thought of them tonight.
01:07:43
It's hours.
01:07:44
It's a big deal.
SPEAKER_03
01:07:45
I thought you worked in Norway.
Bucky Walsh
Chair, Electoral Board
01:07:48
No.
01:07:51
My wife had a exchange student live in her house.
01:07:54
It was from Norway when she was in high school.
01:07:57
That's the normal you can have.
01:08:00
OK, so first order of business is looking at actually first order of business is the close meeting motion.
01:08:08
I guess we've been recording this whole time.
01:08:09
We'll continue recording.
01:08:11
I move that the Albemarle County Electoral Board convene a closed meeting pursuant to section 2.2-3711A of the Code of Virginia under subsection one to discuss and consider applications of prospective candidates as officers of election, and two, to discuss the annual performance review of the registrar.
01:08:30
And for the second part, it'll be only the board members present under 24.2-109.1.
01:08:40
All in favor say aye.
01:08:44
Any opposed?
01:08:44
No.
01:08:45
So we are in a closed meeting.
01:08:47
I'm going to