Architectural Review Board Meeting   3/21/2022

Do any ARB members have anything to disclose?

ARB-2022-17, Rio Point Initial Site Plan, and then also ARB-2022-15, Crozet Self Storage.

Anyone else?

And if someone's uncomfortable with that, then I'm happy to recuse myself.

Dave?

Yeah, I just need to disclose that I spoke to a representative of the applicant for the Crozet Self Storage.

As did I. I also had a meeting with a representative from Crozet Self Storage as well.

Yeah, as did I.

And he had reached out to me, but I had not scheduled anything, but he reached out.

All right.

Any members of the public that want to make a comment about a project that is not on the agenda for review today?

No, I don't have anyone with their hand raised at this time.

Do any ARB members want to move this item off the consent agenda and have a discussion about it?

All right.

Well, in that case, would anybody like to move to approve the consent agenda?

I'll move to approve the consent agenda.

Carolyn, can you call the vote, please?

Mr. Stoner?

Aye.

Mr. Henningsen?

Aye.

Thank you.

You have your presentation.

I'm happy to try to answer any questions that you might have.

Frank Hancock?

Has the applicant reviewed staff changes, the items in blue?

I would imagine that they're not a problem, not really providing any limitations than what was already in place.

Frank Stoner.

Thanks, Chris.

All right, Dade?

Thanks, Margaret.

Is the applicant present and have a presentation to make?

This has a lighter colored stucco material, so the black letters would have better contrast.

Frank Stoner,

I don't have any questions.

I'd just like to know if the applicant is okay with the changes that staff has proposed.

Yes, yes, we're comfortable with those changes.

Dave?

No questions, thank you.

No, Tara took my question.

Carolyn, are there any members of the public that would like to make a comment?

I do not have anyone with their hand up at this time.

Dade?

I appreciate staff's additional recommendations.

So if we could review the recommended motion.

Are you able to see my Word document?

Yes.

So the motion would be to approve the comprehensive sign plan with the revisions as outlined in the table in the staff report.

Is there anyone like to make any modifications or would like to move?

Those that we approve the comprehensive sign plan for ARB 2022-13 Shoppers World retail building with revisions is outlined below in the staff report.

I'll second the motion.

So, Carolyn, could we do the vote?

Sorry, I have to unmute myself.

Mr. Hancock Aye Mr. Henningsen Aye Mr. Van Der Werf Aye Mr. Matsuno Aye Thank you

Our recommendation is for approval with the signs as proposed.

Hey, would anybody like to make a motion on that?

I'll move that we approve the Ryans and Rogers wall signs as proposed.

I second the motion.

Mr. Hancock?

I will note the motion was made by Mr. Stoner.

Mr. Henningsen?

Aye.

Sorry.

All right, thank you.

Happy to have it answer any questions.

Dave, do you have any questions?

Thanks, Chris, for your presentation.

Frank Stoner.

No, I don't think I have any questions at this time, Chris.

Taro?

Thank you.

Thank you and good afternoon.

But we definitely appreciate your time this afternoon.

Frank Hancock?

No questions.

Carolyn, are there any members of the public that wish to make a comment?

No, nobody has their hand up at this time.

Frank Hancock, do you have any comments?

I think for all those reasons, to me, I think it's appropriate in the entrance corridor.

Frank Stoner.

Thanks, Chris.

Tara, do you have any comments?

The maintaining that 3.5 inch caliper tree along the entrance corridor and the vegetation around the dumpster structure and the color of the trim all sound like reasonable changes to make to me.

Dave, do you have any comments?

All right, thanks a lot.

So if we could review the recommended motion.

Can you see the word document?

Yes, thank you.

One is the one about the white color and 10 and 11 are about the tree sizes.

And I would say given the cost difference between a two and a half and a three and a half, I'd just be curious to get your feedback on that.

These large canopy trees and they don't really have enough room to grow.

So, yeah.

But the thing that we've asked every other applicant to do this at this point, it's kind of we're still working on the guidelines we have.

Yeah, I'll just add that it was intentional when the guidelines were first written and adopted to have that increased size for the entrance quarter street trees so that there would be more of an immediate impact.

Well, are there any specific measures that anyone would like to modify or is anyone willing to make a motion as is?

Is that the case?

Happy to provide that.

I'm open to that.

Yeah, I think I would support a little bit of leniency for the interior trees as well.

I would as well.

Yeah, this looks, as it's developing on the screen, I think this looks reasonable to me.

I would agree.

Would anybody like to make a motion?

I supervise item 11 to replanting size of the exterior and interior parking lot trees, maybe one and a half inch caliper.

All right, Carolyn, if we could have a vote.

Hi, Mr. Stoner.

Mr. Hancock.

Hi.

Thank you.

So, Margaret, if, well, looks like you're about ready.

Can you see the slide?

Okay, Crozet self storage.

Happy to try to answer any questions that you have.

Thank you, Margaret.

Dade?

Thanks, Margaret, for your presentation.

Is the applicant here, and do they have a presentation?

If you feel like you'd like to ask a technical question or something like that, we have the architect, engineers and such are present.

Tara, do you have any questions for the applicant?

Is that the case?

And the material would match the foundation material in the building, which right now we have is that stone water table

I think I see something on the site plan, but I just wanted to hear you speak to that.

Planting that would be appropriate for that trellis.

Those are all my questions.

Dave, do you have any questions for the applicant?

Appreciate the developments in the plan.

Frank Stoner, any questions?

Andrew, what's the roofing material on the mansard roof?

Would you mind answering that one?

That would be commercial grade fire asphalt or fiberglass shingles.

Okay.

Okay.

That'll come later.

Okay.

Carolyn, are there any members of the public that want to comment?

Mr. Fretwell, please state your name, address if you're affiliated with a group and you have three minutes to speak.

So thank you all for your time.

Dave, do you have any comments?

And I appreciate the opportunity to the discussion at our last hearing.

Frank Stoner.

Thanks.

So I applaud the applicant for making the time and work to do that.

So I think, Margaret, I guess we're ready to look at the recommended motion.

Are you able to see the list of comments?

All right, are there any specific items that any board members would like to modify?

I think given the context, I think collaborative could probably work in some areas.

And it's not limited just to masonry.

So I would like to see that addressed by the applicant.

Is anybody comfortable making a motion?

And again, I wouldn't make that a requirement, but I think there's, given the size of the building and the size of those wall areas, making those feel more recessed might help.

That's a good suggestion.

Frank, I'm sure I did not get your actual wording.

You got it.

In order to repeat what's going on in the rest of the building, that it might make sense for the stories two and three on that tower to be the same windows as the other portions of the building, maintaining storefront at the ground level, but changing those windows to match what's going on in the other part of the building.

I think that's a good suggestion for more consistency.

That's kind of hard to tell.

The ones on the...

The ones on the southeast corner.

The storefront.

Okay.

Yeah, I think swapping the storefront for the same vinyl fixed windows would be helpful in making this more consistent.

All right, is anyone not comfortable making a motion?

At item 15, revise the windows of the second and third stories of the southeast tower to match the windows at the second and third stories of the rest of the building.

I'll second that.

Mr. Henningsen?

Aye.

Mr. Matsuno?

All right, a second.

Second.

Thank you.

Mr. Henningsen?

Aye.

I'm expecting that I will be able to, so.

I believe I can attend.

I believe I will.

Thank you.

for requests regarding the comprehensive sign plan for ABC.

If it's okay with you, I'm just gonna share my screen so I can show you a few images.

Great, thank you.

So the question is, are you expecting a comprehensive sign plan for all the buildings together or just for the individual buildings?

This doesn't seem like that case at all.

I agree with Chris.

Is there a general consensus on that?

Yes, I concur.

Seems reasonable to me, yeah.

Thank you so much.

So I wish everyone a great month until I see you all again.

Thank you.

Thank you.