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Architectural Review Board Meeting 1/18/2022
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Architectural Review Board Meeting
1/18/2022
Attachments
Final Agenda.pdf
Final Action Memo.pdf
Final Action Memo Minutes.pdf
2022 ARB meeting schedule.pdf
ARB rules 2022.pdf
ARB2021-137 Stonefield Towncenter Block C2-1 Staff Report.pdf
Attach. 1 ARB2021-137 Stonefield Town Center Block C2-1 Initial.pdf
ARB2021-40 Scotts Ivy Exxon Memo.pdf
Attach. I ARB2021-40 Scotts Ivy Exxon – Staff Report (May 17, 2021).pdf
Attach. II ARB2021-40 Scotts Ivy Exxon – Action Letter (May 18, 2021).pdf
Attach. III ARB2021-40 Scotts Ivy Exxon – Architectural Drawings (May 17, 2021).pdf
Attach. IV ARB2021-40 Scotts Ivy Exxon – Revised Architectural Drawings (December 17, 2021).pdf
Dade Van Der Werf
Member, Architectural Review Board
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We'll call to order the January 18, 2022 meeting of the Albemarle County Architectural Review Board.
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This meeting is being held pursuant to and in compliance with order number 20-A16, an ordinance to ensure the continuity of government during the COVID disaster.
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Quorum is present.
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Architectural Review Board members present electronically are Frank Hancock, Chris Henningsen, Frank Stoner, and myself, Dade Van Der Werf.
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There are opportunities for public access to this meeting posted on the county's website and at the county calendar.
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The public has real-time audio visual access to this meeting over Zoom and real-time audio access over telephone, both as provided in a lawfully posted meeting notice.
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This meeting is being recorded and will be made available on the county's website.
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This online meeting is a public record and subject to disclosure under the Freedom of Information Act.
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For all speakers, when it's your turn to speak, please first state your name for the record.
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For everyone participating today, it is good practice to mute your microphone until it's your turn to speak.
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For applicants making presentations, please note that your presentation is limited to a total of 15 minutes, which you can invite among your team members as you see fit, and Carolyn will let us know when the 15 minutes are up.
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So for disclosures, do any ARB members have anything to disclose today?
Chris Henningsen
Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:01:22
Yes, I am going to have to recuse myself from the IV exon work session.
Dade Van Der Werf
Member, Architectural Review Board
00:01:30
Thank you, Chris.
Frank Hancock
Vice Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:01:33
No, I don't I don't have anything to disclose.
Dade Van Der Werf
Member, Architectural Review Board
00:01:37
I don't either.
00:01:38
OK, nothing for me either.
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So this is our first meeting of the year and our annual meeting.
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So for the first item is to elect the chair for the year.
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So
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I'll ask for a nomination and would be happy to put forward myself, Chris Henningsen's name for chair of the board.
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Is there a second?
SPEAKER_06
00:02:07
I'll second.
Dade Van Der Werf
Member, Architectural Review Board
00:02:10
Carolyn, will you call the vote?
SPEAKER_08
00:02:15
Yes.
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Mr. Stoner?
SPEAKER_06
00:02:19
Aye.
SPEAKER_08
00:02:20
Mr. Hancock?
SPEAKER_06
00:02:22
Aye.
SPEAKER_08
00:02:23
I'm sorry, Mr. Van Der Werf.
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Happy New Year, everyone.
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Happy New Year.
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I don't even know what I'm doing today.
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I'm sorry.
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Mr. Van Der Werf.
Dade Van Der Werf
Member, Architectural Review Board
00:02:35
Hi.
SPEAKER_08
00:02:36
And Mr. Henningsen.
Frank Stoner
Member, Architectural Review Board
00:02:38
Hi.
Dade Van Der Werf
Member, Architectural Review Board
00:02:42
Great.
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So at this point, Margaret, do I turn the meeting over to Chris or is that after the election of the vice chair?
Margaret Maliszewski
Planning Manager
00:02:53
I think you could turn it over to Chris now.
Chris Henningsen
Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:02:57
All right, well, thank you and thanks for your service, Dave.
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So can I have a nomination for vice chair?
Dade Van Der Werf
Member, Architectural Review Board
00:03:17
Please to nominate Frank Hancock.
Chris Henningsen
Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:03:26
I'll second that.
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So are there any other nominations?
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So let's go to a vote.
SPEAKER_08
00:03:42
All right.
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Mr. Stoner?
Chris Henningsen
Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:03:44
Aye.
SPEAKER_08
00:03:45
Mr. Hancock?
SPEAKER_06
00:03:47
Aye.
SPEAKER_08
00:03:48
Mr. Henningsen?
SPEAKER_06
00:03:50
Aye.
SPEAKER_08
00:03:51
Mr. Van Der Werf?
SPEAKER_06
00:03:53
Aye.
SPEAKER_08
00:03:54
Thank you.
Chris Henningsen
Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:03:58
So next order of business is the draft schedule of the ARB for 2022.
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The draft schedule has the ARB meeting on the first and third Monday of each month.
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Does anyone want to propose an alternative schedule?
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So
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Doesn't seem like we have any alternative proposals, so could I ask for a motion to approve?
Dade Van Der Werf
Member, Architectural Review Board
00:04:35
I'll move to adopt the 2022 calendar as proposed.
Chris Henningsen
Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:04:42
Is there a second?
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Second.
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All right, let's vote on it.
SPEAKER_08
00:04:48
Mr. Van Der Werf?
00:04:50
Aye.
SPEAKER_08
00:04:51
Mr. Henningsen?
Chris Henningsen
Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:04:53
Aye.
SPEAKER_08
00:04:53
Mr. Hancock?
Chris Henningsen
Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:04:55
Aye.
SPEAKER_08
00:04:56
Mr. Stoner?
Chris Henningsen
Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:04:58
Aye.
SPEAKER_08
00:04:59
Thank you.
Chris Henningsen
Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:05:01
So the rules of, would anyone like to propose amending the rules of procedure?
SPEAKER_06
00:05:13
No.
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Can I get a motion to approve the rules?
Frank Stoner
Member, Architectural Review Board
00:05:21
So moved.
Chris Henningsen
Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:05:23
All right, let's move to a vote.
SPEAKER_08
00:05:28
All right, Mr. Stoner.
Chris Henningsen
Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:05:30
Aye.
SPEAKER_08
00:05:31
Mr. Hancock.
Chris Henningsen
Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:05:33
Aye.
SPEAKER_08
00:05:33
Mr. Henningsen.
Chris Henningsen
Chair, Architectural Review Board
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Aye.
SPEAKER_08
00:05:36
Mr. Van Der Werf.
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Aye.
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Thank you.
Chris Henningsen
Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:05:41
All right, hi, Carolyn, are there any members of the public that want to make a comment about a project that is not on the agenda?
SPEAKER_08
00:05:49
No, there is not.
Chris Henningsen
Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:05:53
All right, great.
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So we can move on to the consent agenda.
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There is one consent agenda item today.
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It is ARB 2021-137, Stonefield C2-1.
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Would any members like to bring that off of the consent agenda for discussion?
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That's a no.
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Can I get a motion to approve the consent agenda?
Dade Van Der Werf
Member, Architectural Review Board
00:06:28
I'll move to approve the consent agenda.
Chris Henningsen
Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:06:31
I'll second.
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We can put it to a vote.
SPEAKER_08
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Mr. Stoner?
SPEAKER_06
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Aye.
SPEAKER_08
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Mr. Hancock?
SPEAKER_06
00:06:43
Aye.
SPEAKER_08
00:06:43
Mr. Henningsen?
SPEAKER_06
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Aye.
SPEAKER_08
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Mr. Van Der Werf?
Chris Henningsen
Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:06:50
Thank you.
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So there are no regular review items today.
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So we'll move to the work session, which I will be recusing myself from.
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So if I could hand it over to Frank Hancock.
SPEAKER_06
00:07:07
Thanks, Chris.
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Thanks.
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Carolyn, does Chris go into a breakout room?
Frank Hancock
Vice Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:07:18
I forget how we do this.
SPEAKER_08
00:07:20
He just needs to turn his camera off and meet himself so he's not watching.
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There you go.
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That's it.
Frank Hancock
Vice Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:07:27
Perfect.
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OK, now I'll ask Chris Taggart with the Planning Division of Community Development to provide a presentation.
Khris Taggart
Senior Planner
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One second.
SPEAKER_06
00:07:47
Are you viewing the title screen?
Khris Taggart
Senior Planner
00:07:49
Yes.
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Just give a quick refresher.
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On May 18th, 2021, the ARB approved the final site plan pending staff approval of several conditions.
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Condition one related to the building design required review by the board during a work session.
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Advocates submitted revised designs to address this condition.
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A submittal that addresses the remaining conditions have not been submitted at this time.
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In staff's cursory review of the revised middle, we noted the following.
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The architectural design, the building, and the addition remains largely unchanged.
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The blue, yellow, and red color stripes have been removed from elevations, which significantly reduces the trademark appearance of the development.
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And the paint color has been revised from a light gray to a dark gray.
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The paint color of the addition has been revised from a light gray to a dark gray.
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The paint color for the existing building remains light gray.
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The board's action on this item should be to confirm that the revised design maintains a connection to the historic architecture of the area and does not use trademark colors as a major design element.
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I'd be happy to answer any questions.
Frank Hancock
Vice Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:09:06
Thanks, Chris.
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Now I'll ask board members, starting with Frank Stoner.
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Do you have any questions for Chris?
Frank Stoner
Member, Architectural Review Board
00:09:15
Chris, the only question I have when I look at that rendered
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Picture, I don't know if we can bring that back up.
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It may just be a function of the fact as a rendering that the last one we looked at, which looks at it from the other direction, from the west side, I guess.
SPEAKER_06
00:09:38
This one?
SPEAKER_07
00:09:46
Not that one.
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Not that one?
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No.
SPEAKER_06
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These?
Frank Stoner
Member, Architectural Review Board
00:09:55
My image isn't changing.
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I don't know if anybody else is.
Dade Van Der Werf
Member, Architectural Review Board
00:10:00
Yeah, it's still doing that.
SPEAKER_06
00:10:13
So not that one.
00:10:14
Oh, there it is.
Frank Stoner
Member, Architectural Review Board
00:10:19
So in this one, it appears that the back portion of the two-story is a lighter gray than the front.
00:10:29
But again, that may just be a rendered, maybe a rendering.
Khris Taggart
Senior Planner
00:10:32
Yeah, I see that as well.
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I think it might be, but not the comprised answer.
SPEAKER_07
00:10:38
That's the only question I had.
Frank Hancock
Vice Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:10:46
Thanks, Frank.
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Dave, do you have any questions for staff?
Dade Van Der Werf
Member, Architectural Review Board
00:10:50
Thank you, Frank.
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Chris, thank you for your presentation.
00:10:52
No questions.
Frank Hancock
Vice Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:10:57
And I don't have any questions either, Chris.
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Thank you for your presentation.
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At this time, do we have the applicant or representative for the applicant that would like to make a presentation?
SPEAKER_07
00:11:16
I do not.
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OK, hold on.
SPEAKER_08
00:11:21
Is Scott and Diane Ram supposed to be making a presentation, Chris?
Margaret Maliszewski
Planning Manager
00:11:27
Carolyn, I think Mark Tesser is.
SPEAKER_07
00:11:30
Is it okay?
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Hold on.
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I have promoted him.
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Mark, you're ready.
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You have 15 minutes for your presentation.
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Please unmute yourself.
SPEAKER_06
00:11:52
Hi, good afternoon.
Mark Kestner
Principal
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It's Mark Kessner.
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Happy new year to everyone.
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There's no presentation other than what Chris has already done here.
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We're here to answer questions, but I think we have addressed the concerns that came out of the last meeting with the color scheme and the branding.
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We've taken all branding off the building.
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and have simplified the color scheme.
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So the back portion is a darker gray.
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The rendering, Frank, that you were questioning, the color in the rendering is due to a material change from CMU to metal.
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And it's just how that is coming off in the rendering.
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But the light gray is to respect the existing building and be close to the original color, which was white at one point.
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and the darker gray is just to compliment the light gray.
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And we've reduced the signage to a very small, polite sign, which we understand will go through a different review, but we've coordinated the dumpster screening, fence screening and vending machine color.
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So our hope is that we've come to the right spot here, but happy to answer any questions.
Frank Hancock
Vice Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:13:20
Thanks, Mark.
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Frank Stoner, do you have any questions, any additional questions for Mark?
Frank Stoner
Member, Architectural Review Board
00:13:27
I don't.
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Mark, I think the plan looks great.
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Huge improvement, for sure.
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Thanks for taking the time to do it.
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Thank you.
Frank Hancock
Vice Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:13:38
Thanks, Frank.
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Dave, do you have any questions for the applicant?
Dade Van Der Werf
Member, Architectural Review Board
00:13:44
Thank you, Frank.
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Similarly, no questions.
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Thank you, Mark, as well, for updating the color and the design.
Frank Hancock
Vice Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:13:51
And I don't have any questions either.
00:13:53
Thank you, Mark.
00:13:55
Carolyn, is there anybody from the public that wishes to comment?
SPEAKER_08
00:14:01
Yes, I have one person, Scott and Diane Ram.
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Please state your name and address if you're filling in with the group or organization.
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When you unmute, your time starts then and you have three minutes to speak.
SPEAKER_00
00:14:16
So I'm the applicant, so I don't have any questions.
SPEAKER_08
00:14:19
Okay.
SPEAKER_00
00:14:20
Thanks for us.
00:14:22
I was trying to get logged into the meeting and that's how it comes up.
SPEAKER_08
00:14:26
Okay.
00:14:27
Then I do not have anybody with their hand raised.
Frank Hancock
Vice Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:14:33
So that was someone speaking in favor of the applications.
00:14:36
Is that correct?
SPEAKER_08
00:14:37
That was the owner.
Frank Hancock
Vice Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:14:40
Thank you.
00:14:42
And now we will go into discussion starting with Frank Stoner.
Frank Stoner
Member, Architectural Review Board
00:14:50
Yeah, I don't have much to add, Frank.
00:14:55
I think the color change is a big improvement and certainly getting rid of that color band makes a huge difference as well.
00:15:03
I think it looks good.
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I'm prepared to approve it.
00:15:08
Okay, thank you, Frank.
Frank Hancock
Vice Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:15:10
Dave?
Dade Van Der Werf
Member, Architectural Review Board
00:15:11
Likewise, like Frank, I'm prepared to approve it.
00:15:15
And I think, you know, the site plan which we previously approved in the incorporation of landscape is going to be a significant improvement for the corridor.
00:15:22
So pleased to see that.
Frank Hancock
Vice Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:15:25
Thanks, Dade.
00:15:26
I think we're all in agreement.
00:15:28
I think it looks good.
00:15:30
I appreciate the applicant making the changes and coming back to us today.
00:15:35
Do we want to go ahead and review staff's recommended motion in action?
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or is that Margaret?
Margaret Maliszewski
Planning Manager
00:15:46
I've got it.
Frank Hancock
Vice Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:15:48
Thank you.
Margaret Maliszewski
Planning Manager
00:15:49
Are you able to see your Word document?
SPEAKER_07
00:15:56
Yes.
Margaret Maliszewski
Planning Manager
00:15:58
My suggestion for your motion, if you're sounds like you're all happy with what you've seen today, make a motion for approval of the revised architectural design as illustrated presented today.
00:16:14
and that would eliminate condition number one from the May 18th action letter.
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That's just to note that there are still outstanding conditions that staff will be dealing with final approval.
Frank Hancock
Vice Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:16:28
So moved.
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Seconded.
00:16:31
Do I have a second?
Dade Van Der Werf
Member, Architectural Review Board
00:16:35
I'll second it.
Frank Hancock
Vice Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:16:36
Carolyn, could you please call the vote?
SPEAKER_08
00:16:42
Yes.
00:16:43
Mr. Stoner?
00:16:45
Aye Mr. Hancock Aye Mr. Van Der Werf Aye All right, thank you.
00:16:54
We'll let Mr. Fissig to know he can come back.
SPEAKER_06
00:17:05
All right.
Chris Henningsen
Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:17:08
We're now on to other business.
00:17:09
Thank you all.
SPEAKER_06
00:17:10
Have a nice afternoon.
Chris Henningsen
Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:17:14
So next up is approval of the December 20th, 2021 minutes.
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Would anyone like to move to approve the minutes?
SPEAKER_06
00:17:28
So moved.
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Second.
SPEAKER_08
00:17:34
All right.
00:17:40
Mr. Stoner?
00:17:41
Aye.
00:17:42
Mr. Hancock?
00:17:43
Aye Mr. Henningsen Aye Mr. Van Der Werf Aye Thank you.
Chris Henningsen
Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:17:53
Great.
00:17:54
So our next meeting will be Monday, February 7th at one o'clock.
00:18:01
The next meeting will be a virtual meeting.
00:18:05
And does everyone expect to be able to attend?
00:18:10
Yes.
00:18:12
Great.
Frank Stoner
Member, Architectural Review Board
00:18:14
Hey Margaret, can I ask a quick question in terms of the timetable for replacing FRED?
00:18:21
Are there applicants already or we have to start that process?
Margaret Maliszewski
Planning Manager
00:18:31
That's a good question.
00:18:33
The clerk's office is aware that the position is open.
00:18:39
I believe we checked last week and the website already has that opening listed.
00:18:45
And so that will move as quickly as I assume as quickly as applications are received.
Frank Stoner
Member, Architectural Review Board
00:18:58
So in the meantime, if if an applicant comes forward and two of us, for example, have to recuse ourselves, then what happens?
00:19:09
Because then there's not a quorum, right?
Margaret Maliszewski
Planning Manager
00:19:12
Yeah, I think that's a special situation and we can double check with the county attorney's office.
00:19:17
But if we start out with a quorum and
00:19:21
And we lose the quorum just because of a conflict of interest.
00:19:26
I believe that the review and the action can continue, but we'll double check that.
Chris Henningsen
Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:19:32
OK. All right, great.
00:19:38
Well, if nobody has anything else.
00:19:43
We can adjourn the meeting next Monday, February 7th.
00:19:50
Time is 19.
Frank Stoner
Member, Architectural Review Board
00:19:54
Wow.
Chris Henningsen
Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:19:54
Thanks, everybody.
Frank Hancock
Vice Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:19:55
Yeah.
00:19:56
Thanks, Chris.
00:19:57
Nice work.
00:19:58
Chris, thank you for all your service.
Dade Van Der Werf
Member, Architectural Review Board
00:20:02
Oh, my pleasure.
00:20:02
Thank you.
Frank Hancock
Vice Chair, Architectural Review Board
00:20:03
Yes, thank you, Dave.
00:20:04
Well, thank you.
00:20:06
Take care, everybody.