Architectural Review Board Meeting   11/16/2020

We'd at least leave that door open.

I don't have a preference.

Well, I guess in next meeting's agenda, we'll just leave that as an item.

OK. And I can add it in at the next meeting if that's what you all want.

Thank you.

Will do.

I'll turn now to ask other members if there are any disclosures today.

None for me.

There being no objection, is there a motion to approve the consent agenda?

So moved.

Second.

Carolyn, could you call your vote?

Mr. Van Der Werf?

Aye.

Mr. Missel?

Aye.

Thank you.

Brooke Hill.

Do you see a PowerPoint slide?

Great.

So I can leave this slide up if that helps for discussion, and I'm happy to try to answer any questions you have.

Frank Stoner, do you have any questions?

I don't have any questions, Dave.

Is that what you're thinking from 29?

I think possibly through here.

And all the topography, so 13, 4C, and 1B are all elevated above the height of Route 29, right?

At this point, I think 1B is pretty level with the force.

That's all.

Is there any chance that they will be visible from the northbound lanes of 29?

With the curves in the road there, I think it would be difficult.

So just to review the blocks that have not been reviewed, I guess those are all the ones in blue?

That's right.

So is there a proposal for which blocks don't require review?

We have an initial site plan in for block 1B.

I don't know, Fred and Frank, what your thoughts are.

I don't know if she has... Oh, yes, yes, certainly.

Welcome any further input from you.

Thanks.

Frank, any comments or thoughts for discussion?

How many feet off the 29 right away is 1B?

I think it's just right at 750.

I don't think it requires our review personally, but I'm willing to go along with the majority.

looked at you know you could certainly look at it and say oh wow this thing just jumped out at us i had no idea it would be this visible you know at least you have a shot at looking at it and you can decide then whether or not you think it's necessary to review i think our our thought was with 13 um was that um let me take a step back um i think uh in part the reason we didn't think 10 was going to be visible was because it was lower but i

Yeah, could be.

And in terms of 4C, Margaret, is it likely visible through the stormwater facility that makes 4BR?

That's what we're thinking.

More visible.

Okay.

That there's no need to?

So if it's at least a staff level review, then the materials can be reviewed.

Is that?

750.

750, so anything within 750 feet of the primary corridor would be subject to potentially staff review.

Anything beyond.

Oh, anything beyond 750.

Is available for staff level review.

That's totally at our discretion.

Does that answer your question?

I think so, yeah.

Should it stay on the list?

I don't think it's worth reviewing two.

Neither do I.

I just, I think a lot of this is too far away.

But if it's hanging out front, it's all cleared in front of it, it's perched, it might be different, it's just hard to know.

I would maybe err on the side of trying to keep 1B, 4C, and 13 in the staff review column.

I think the goal is to try to identify ones that really absolutely don't need review just to make things more clear for what's coming down there.

Well, let's see, Fred or Frank, would you care to make a motion?

Can you see the word document?

Yes.

Staff level review of blocks 1,

And I would take two out.

1B, 4C, and 13.

and two would move up to the not required.

Is that accurate?

Is there a motion?

Staff level review of blocks 1B, 4C, and 13 is necessary.

I'll second.

Mr. Stoner.

Aye.

Mr. Missel.

Aye.

Thank you.

Thank you, Ashley.

It's probably just worth pointing out for the record that the reason that, just formally, the reason that ARB review of those blocks isn't required is because it's anticipated that the development will not be visible from the Route 29 corridor.

Or that just goes into the record?

It's on the record.

Second.

Mr. Van Der Werf?

Aye.

Mr. Missel?

Hi.

Thank you.

Is everyone able to attend?

As far as I know, yes.

I hope all stay safe and well and see you again on December 7th.

Take care everyone.