Board of Supervisors Regular Second Meeting   5/20/2020

There will be other staff who are available and participating throughout the meeting and they will introduce themselves at that time.

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic for which it stands, one body under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

If everyone would please join in a moment of silence.

Are there any other changes to the agenda or items that need to be pulled from consent?

Second.

Just to clarify, this was to adopt the final agenda with the change?

I couldn't remember.

And we can go ahead and call the vote.

Bea LaPisto-Kirtley?

Aye.

Mallek?

Yes.

McKeel?

Yes.

I'm sorry, that's not happening now, but once we get past the consent agenda, Dr. Bonds will be providing us an update.

And Supervisor Mallek, you're first up tonight.

Thank you very much.

Supervisor LaPisto-Kirtley, any announcements?

Thank you, Supervisor Price.

Thank you, Chair.

Supervisor Palmer.

So the mail-in would, if you mailed in that form, you would not have to give your social security number.

Nobody proofread the form, unfortunately, and it shouldn't be this hard to get it fixed.

Thank you.

Supervisor McKeel?

I'm fine, thank you, Ned.

So thank you board for allowing me to say a few words on an appreciation of Bruce.

Okay board with that we will go to the consent agenda minus item 6.1 which we'll need a motion to adopt.

Move that we adopt the consent agenda as amended.

And we'll go ahead and call the vote please.

Yes.

There you go.

I can't hear you.

Mike is yours.

Thank you.

Supervisor Mallek, any questions?

I'm all set.

Supervisor LaPisto-Kirtley?

Thank you.

Supervisor Palmer?

Thank you.

and Supervisor McKeel.

But there may be a time issue, so I guess I'm just asking.

It's really just changing the explanation as to the county's contribution.

And so I understood that.

Is there a timing issue?

So there is a timing issue of concern.

As long as we get something for us to see that sort of I'd like to at least see a rewrite would be great just for me if that, but I'm happy to support it today.

I would be delighted to send the board this in email and we do have a spreadsheet that outlines this in a very small spreadsheet that outlines this in much more clear terms than me just rambling on about a bunch of numbers.

Okay.

Thank you.

Is that a reasonable request?

I think that would be cleaner if we could do that, Ned.

Because I'm understanding you can just strike the language from item one that you don't need to do anything else and then if I understood it right how the 83-109 is used for reimbursement and then the remainder and then that could be something later before or after our closed meeting or we could do it at the end of the meeting under other matters and then we have a clean document that everybody can see.

That's my only problem.

Yeah, I mean, I think having something that we can share concerns there, Greg, about us receiving the language and then we can vote.

Okay, well, I will cut and paste this then and update it and send it to you all as soon as I get it done in a few minutes.

Thank you, Jody.

Thank you.

You are muted.

And so with that, Dr. Bonds, thank you, and I'll turn it over to you.

That was a lot of information all at once.

Supervisor Malek, any questions or comments?

So is anybody actually qualifying for that original governor's order to be having cases falling for 14 days around here?

And in general, the positivity rate is decreasing over time.

Is it you or Catherine or one of you?

and it works best if we have a community contact that can help advertise it locally to the groups because while we can send things out I think a community member always has better contacts and understands who needs to know.

And the fact that sharing that information makes people very hostile, I'll tell you, it's awful.

But I will find that and I will send you that CMS link.

Thank you very much.

Supervisor LaPisto-Kirtley?

And in regards to Supervisor Malek's question, I know where my, the nursing home where my brother is, I mean they send out letters to let us know, or emails to let us know of individual patients, so not group things, but you know individuals, so I don't know if all nursing homes do that.

And so I think this will help once it's posted on the federal website so people can go and look it up.

That was all my questions.

Thank you.

Pretty good.

Supervisor Palmer?

Thank you.

We do not test at the health department, we just do it at these mobile testing events.

So when you give us the number of tests that are occurring in the health district or in this area, are you giving all the tests or are you just giving the ones that the health department is controlling or in charge of?

So if anything, this is a slight undercounting of PCRs, because we probably do not get every single negative test that's done.

that we don't really, possibly we don't know how accurate their processes are.

So that's a little trickier to interpret at that point which is why when you go to the webpage you can pull up just PCR tests.

And I am wondering how many people are antibody testing after they've been already tested positive, how much double counting there is?

We just need more data.

I appreciate you giving us this time today.

Sure.

Supervisor McKeel.

I know other customers are something else, but the employees of businesses.

You know, it doesn't do anybody any good if we get a big outbreak and trace it back to a retail establishment or a restaurant that turns out wasn't practicing appropriate precautions.

I appreciate you being here.

Supervisor LaPisto-Kirtley, did you have an additional comment?

I wanted to mention that but thank you.

And I think, you know, we want the children to be safe, so.

Supervisor Mallek, you had a final comment?

Thank you.

We really do appreciate it.

We really appreciate it.

Have a good afternoon.

Thanks so much.

And without further ado, Tobias, I'll turn it over to you to give us an update on Willow Tree.

With that, I'm happy to take any questions.

Supervisor Mallek, you're up first.

Thank you very much.

We just have to make it from here to there.

Thank you.

Supervisor LaPisto-Kirtley.

and you're going to make it happen, I know that.

Thank you, we appreciate it.

Supervisor Price.

Thank you, Chair Gallo.

Supervisor Palmer?

Thank you.

Supervisor McKeel?

I know that the city certainly is wired but just your thoughts around your employees connectivity I know I guess many of them live in the city or on the perimeter maybe right in the county but do you have anything you'd like to share about connectivity in this community?

But if we're going to address the digital divide, this has to be, for all of us, a primary agenda item.

I can't wait to come down and see the new facility.

Yeah, I can't wait to give all of you a tour.

Yeah, it'll be great.

probably a while right now.

So anyway.

Did I hear that right?

Yes.

And if there's no further discussion, go ahead and call the vote, please.

McKeel?

The agreement has been amended and we wish you the best in getting everything else wrapped up and hope that you will find your normalcy sooner rather than later.

I had asked you to make one last comment there.

I'm sorry.

Thank you.

And Supervisor Mallek, did you have a follow-up comment as well?

Thank you.

Thank you.

And Kevin, are you online?

Can you see me?

Good afternoon, sir.

Supervisor Malek, questions, comments?

Thank you.

All right, Supervisor LaPisto-Kirtley.

includes something like a large bus, you know, like a Greyhound tag bus that size.

If we did a through truck restriction, no actually I'm sorry buses are not considered trucks so buses would not be exempt from this and that allows you know we have to make sure that school buses are still allowed on these things and so yeah the buses my understanding is this will be allowed.

Yeah I'm thinking more of a commercial bus like a Greyhound bus.

Yeah, that would not be under the through truck restrictions.

No more questions.

Supervisor Price.

In forestry, trucks on Miller School Road?

So I think that probably also played into it is that you have to go further around to get to make that trip.

Thank you Supervisor Palmer.

Or did they actually approve a through truck restriction?

Once again, if you have a destination on the route, you are allowed to travel that route.

a high level way if you could talk about that.

So that's why we moved along.

Thank you.

Supervisor McHale?

I have to admit, it's a little surprising.

that there's no reason why there was no reason within the report that was evident that showed that that agricultural vehicles would not be the same issue that we have with other through tractor trailers.

other alternatives, routes?

That's what we need.

And I think that's what you're getting at too.

You're not unmuted, Ann.

getting new signs named for Miller School Road because I don't foresee a way we can get the dump trucks off even though I would love to be able to wave a magic wand to do that.

So even if they do maybe still come up with different answers for different people, the response is coming from the same VDOT central office.

Thank you.

Supervisor Price, you had another comment?

Thank you.

Is there no process if you're unhappy with the central office decision to take it to another step?

But this really went as far as it could go in this form, I would say.

Is that your understanding?

I'm sure I have a follow-up discussion with Supervisor Mallek and we will continue to look at other options and continue to gather available data but at this time we're not going to move forward with any changes to that restriction request.

Is there anything else you need from us today, Kevin?

I think I am good and Supervisor Mallek has another comment.

Thank you guys.

Thank you very much, Chairman.

You're coming back later, yeah?

I'll be back.

Well, I rescind my good evening, and we'll talk to you later.

Mr. Campner?

Can you all see the screen okay?

Yes, okay.

Well, I'll just leave it at that and just open that up for board discussion.

Supervisor Malek, you're muted.

So three or four would probably make me happy.

All right, Supervisor LaPisto-Kirtley.

Is that the intent?

I should have labeled it, that's something we're not ready for that yet, but something in the future.

Other entities that you have spoken with, be it school boards or other supervisors or cities, allowing number six, has anyone allowed number six and not really had a problem?

probably words themselves it would be very difficult to conclude that words themselves nothing more are obscene in 2020.

The concern is now that it's virtual and we don't really know who is there.

We don't know who they are or where they are.

No, three and four.

Thank you.

Yeah, I like number four.

Supervisor Price.

Supervisor Palmer.

Okay, just so I'm clear, this would be just like our public hearings, they would go into the webinar, we wouldn't be able to see their video, they wouldn't be able to show anything, it would just be their voices, is that correct?

Okay.

and the school board is doing allow public comment on matters pertaining to county business now.

And they have some, I'm sorry.

So I'm just trying to get, so it's a little bit more narrow than it would be for us because the county business could be consider a lot of different things.

Correct.

So anyway, thank you.

Supervisor McHugh.

I find the 90 days problematic just from the enforcement piece.

It could be a year, it could be whatever the board chooses.

Or was this just a discussion?

I guess the board's June 3rd meeting.

so uh and I just don't know if the other board members realized that and it's just a comment not that you need to do anything about it but it does change a little bit what they're doing with public comment and I guess with that um I am happy for right now

Well, Supervisor McKeel, you said happy to... Happy to turn it over to you.

It's all yours.

Would it be helpful for us to just go back through the order and hear a set decision on three or four so we can see what the consensus is?

Three gives us a little bit more definition as to what is and what is outside of the limits.

All right, Supervisor Malek.

If that's a reasonable compromise just say or pending before the board period.

Supervisor LaPisto-Kirtley.

So I'm leaning more toward four, thank you.

Supervisor Price?

Mr. Campner, how would you differentiate what Supervisor LaPisto-Kirtley just mentioned in terms of what real difference is there between three and four if we remove a defined time limit period from number three?

somebody who works in Parks and Recreation, you know, a decision or actions by an advisory committee or something like that.

Thank you, Chair Galloway.

Thank you.

Thank you Supervisor Palmer.

Do you understand what I'm trying to say?

Mr. Campner, do you have any other need for comment by the board at this time?

So I didn't even include that option.

So if any supervisor wants to take a moment with regard to that particular aspect, Supervisor LaPisto-Kirtley?

I just wanted to make sure that number three wasn't going to be too onerous, but I think if we take out the 90 days, then it's not going to be hard for staff to do.

All right well thank you Mr. Campner again thank you and supervisors thank you for your very informative comments it looks like Supervisor Galloway has been able to rejoin us so I will turn the chair back over to him.

Greg, do you have what you need?

So we will come back for the June 3rd meeting with the expectation that the board will probably modify the suspension of the rule to adopt option number three with the time period removed.

Sorry about that, board.

and we're up to our closed meeting.

Do we have a certification ready for the closed meeting?

I move that the board go into a closed meeting pursuant to section 2.2-3711A of the Code of Virginia section A to consult with and be briefed by legal counsel and staff regarding specific legal matters requiring legal advice relating to the public's access to and use of the county-owned portion of Court Square.

Go ahead and call the vote.

McKeel?

We'll wait for Travis to give us