Central Virginia
Albemarle County
Board of Supervisors Adjourned Meeting 12/4/2018
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Board of Supervisors Adjourned Meeting
12/4/2018
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Minutes.pdf
Actions.pdf
Albemarle County Board of Supervisors & State Legislators Meeting
Legislative Program.pdf
1. Welcome & Introductions.
2. Thomas Jefferson Planning District Legislative Program.
Thomas Jefferson Planning District (Legislative Program).pdf
3. Albemarle County Legislative Priorities.
Albemarle County (Legislative Priorities).pdf
4. Legislators' Priorities/Discussion.
5. Closed Meeting.
6. Certify Closed Meeting.
7. Adjourn.
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1. Welcome & Introductions.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
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Welcome to our legislative session with our wonderful State Senator Creedy and also wonderful staff, Judy Wyatt and Jane Demar, and I'm terribly sorry, Jordan Hargreay from Kenelia Bell's office.
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And we are very much appreciative of your attendance here today.
2. Thomas Jefferson Planning District Legislative Program.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
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And I will ask David Black to kick it off.
SPEAKER_05
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I appreciate the opportunity.
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I believe that all the Board of Supervisors members and folks from the legislative offices and Senator Dees are very familiar with the regional priorities for our area.
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They don't change that much from year to year, so I think what I would like to
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to highlight a few of the significant changes in the priorities this year for the 2019 session.
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The first being under broadband.
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This year, the program elevates broadband and broadband funding to a top priority issue.
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We are very anxious for the governor's budget to come out in a couple of weeks and the release also of the governor's broadband plan, hopefully before the end of the year.
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I think we believe that there is a significant need for a lot of increased investment in broadband expansion and I can tell you that the Department of Housing and Community Development
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We should ask for $25 million for the FADDI program, which you can call it, Communication Initiative.
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That would be an increase from the current year's $4 million.
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Albemarle County, I know, is very actively working with some folks to submit grant applications by next week, I believe, is the deadline for the current program.
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This has been a priority for all of the localities in the region and we're very anxious to work with the legislature to realize some increased funding and incentives for collaboration between the private sector and localities as we seek to expand all of the internet throughout our unserved areas.
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Under local revenue authority, you will see there's two bullets there, the second of which speaks to the local option sales tax being collected from remote sellers.
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This is a new statement in response to the internet sales tax decision, the Wayfair decision from the Supreme Court this past summer that is now allowing states to require out-of-state vendors to submit sales tax even though they may not have a
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This position really seeks to make sure that the current scenario I guess where you have a 1% local option sales tax that is returned back to localities based on point of sale
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that that is also collected from out-of-state vendors.
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We don't want any state legislation that's going to be dealt with this coming session to change that 1% local option and have that piece then now maybe going to the state.
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The estimates are right now that that is about 29 million dollars that can be increased
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29 million dollar increase from that local option 1% and we want to continue to see that collected 29 million
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
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statewide.
SPEAKER_05
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And there's already some evidence from the state that major out-of-state retailers are collecting the sales tax and remitting it to the state.
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We've seen in the first quarter of this current fiscal year that the sales tax collections have increased about 75 percent overall.
SPEAKER_11
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Will Vaco or VML be on top of this?
SPEAKER_05
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Yeah, they are, and I think they're, especially Jacob, I think has some significant conclusions as to what that position is about, the current political line.
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Under our Children's Services Act, we just mentioned a position we actually put in for the first time last year about the flexibility, design for flexibility and use of state funds for certain CSA services.
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It's been a lot of attention the last couple of years on the increased cost growth at the state and local levels for private date placements primarily for students and children that have autism.
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Office of Confidence Services, the money committees, a number of folks have been looking at this issue over the past couple of years.
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In fact, the OCS, Office of Children's Services, just came out with a report which they made some recommendations related to outcomes for students that are in these programs.
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But I think it just makes sense to us at the local level that if we can provide those services in our school settings and have the authority to do that and be able to draw down CSA funds to do that,
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We ought to be able to do that.
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Right now, that is not an option.
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That's why these students are going to these privately made placements.
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But again, I think that's going to be an issue that will probably continue to get a little bit more studied at the state level.
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So I think there's some cost-effective solutions there.
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Just one more, under land use and growth management I'll just mention offers and impact fees
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The changes to the position really speak to two things I guess, some additional language in support of a broader impact fee.
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Senator Deeds and the rest of the Senate is going to have an impact fee bill hitting the floor, actually two of them on the first day of the session, which would expand impact fee authority.
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So we've got some guidance to reflect our support for that.
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In reality what I think is going to really be more of the focus this session is going to be related to proper legislation and some bills that we'll see that will hopefully ease some of the restrictions that were contained in the 2016 proper law that essentially in many if not all parts of the state shut down communications
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between the localities and developers and builders about new development proposals and some of the proposals that have been out there being floated around would ease back some of those restrictions and allow for those communications to take place once again.
SPEAKER_07
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David, one observation from Baycote was that the Torquay
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People from Loudoun County, they seemed very much wedded to a proffer regime going forward and they did not entertain with any kind of interest an impact-filled approach.
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So one thing I think is going to be important in this short session
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in preparation for next year, because we're not going to get a commission, but in laying the foundation, is to try to get the high growth communities of all the counties in the Commonwealth to qualify for that definition together and develop a consensus.
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Because otherwise, there's going to be a bit kind of a divide in concert.
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and a lack of consensus in the high growth area, which will make the argument harder to win in terms of the legislature.
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The other question I had, it's too bad Senator Dietz isn't here, we don't have the opportunity to be asking, how his bill might be similar to and different from Senator Stewart's bill last year, which was intent to open
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the opportunity for impact fees to apply to more than just transportation.
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I don't think it was my bill.
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You didn't reference Stewart.
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I could have sworn you said Deeds.
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He said Senator Deeds is going to see the bill.
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It's going to be on the floor of the Senate the first day.
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It's actually Senator Stewart's bill.
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It is Senator Stewart's bill.
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Is there any opportunity there, this is what I was trying to get at and I'm sorry I did it in that way, to try to see if we can't get both parties putting shoulders behind this so that it's
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bipartisan in trying to support an impact.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
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Sterling, whatever his name is, they're drafting something for everybody to react to to try and bring this together.
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You're right, Louden actually went off on their own and made their own secret tale last year because it's every man for himself in this for sure.
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But there was a lot of pushback about basically giving up the high ground right now and making some concession and ending up negotiating against ourselves, which was what we usually do, and wait for something to
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they're sweating now because they realize they yelled for what they want and they got what they wanted and now they don't like it.
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So it's not our, necessarily our responsibility to fix it for them.
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They have to really step up.
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So I know that the new leadership and the home builders is working on it too and so we'll see how that goes.
SPEAKER_05
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I think you're right to use the term laying some foundations.
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I think even with the granting of some broader impact, the authority, it's not that it's a bill that's going to take effect July 1st and off we go.
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I think there probably is going to have to be
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some convening, some study of what does all this look like and I think that's certainly involved in the development community as well as your other stakeholders in the legislature.
SPEAKER_01
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And the reality of the short session wasn't very impressive.
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Big changes are likely to occur.
SPEAKER_07
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And the whole series is the equivalent of what is referred to by Senator Stanley as proper parties.
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So I don't know what you would come up with to make it alliterative with impacts, but
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there's going to need to be a lot
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Thank you, Madam Chair.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
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A follow-up question on the broadband item.
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Is there any chance at all that there would be some kind of approach, our rural electrification from the state's perspective, to increase the broadband payout?
SPEAKER_01
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What's interesting is through the federal auction program, the BARC co-op that serves the area where I live, Bath Island, Allegheny, Rock Ridge, parts of Augusta, they don't serve any biotech.
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They bought several blocks.
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and they're actually building fiber network throughout their region.
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It's terribly expensive, but they're doing it because they figure it's a way to make rural co-ops relevant in the 21st century.
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The central Virginia co-op, which is to the south of you, includes part, I guess they have some.
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Definitely there are 600 houses.
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I would think that the Albemarle part of their district or their region is one of the more attractive regions because we are working on that.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:11:23
Hopefully next week's grant application will help to jumpstart that whole process.
SPEAKER_01
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Whether the way co-ops work, I don't know if you could force other co-ops into this opportunity, into seizing this opportunity, but certainly those that do, we've got to make
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We've got to figure out if there's a way to incentivize others to do it.
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If we can capture them $25 million, that's going to be a big deal.
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And I don't know that we're going to be able to capture more money than that to create an incentive pool for world co-ops, but it's something different.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
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Well the co-op, when there is local money either provided by a band of neighbors, I mean that's what's happened in about a dozen neighborhoods in the Whitehall district of their own organization and basically trying to put money on the table to draw CenturyLink in to get Kansas City or wherever the headquarters is to sign off on these projects, but that still is leaving.
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Now we're hearing from the people in the little half mile stretches in between.
SPEAKER_01
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But people are recognizing that the fast internet fiber is as much an essential utility as electricity, water, and sewer.
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If you're going to engage in the 21st century economy, you have to have it.
Liz Palmer
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Dominion actually just put out their report and we haven't had a chance to read it, I don't know how many have, but I guess they were asked, they were required to do it, and they put out their report.
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In summary it was interesting to me that they were not, that they seemed like they were sort of interested in
SPEAKER_01
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The reality is co-ops exist because it wasn't profitable for investor-owned utilities to provide electric power in rural areas and still very challenging.
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We're not so sure they stepped forward.
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They may have been pushed a little bit out of the government's office to take this step.
SPEAKER_07
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The devil will be in the details as to what they actually are.
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The other thing I just wanted to comment about was this $25 million.
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The governor has made it very clear that he would like everyone to be behind it because otherwise the chances that it's passed is really minimal and what the legislation may end up agreeing to is probably only less than $25 million.
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Fortunately, Albemarle is well positioned in terms of our already having a broadband authority.
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We have a pretty good idea of the census tracts where the broadband is not currently operational.
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There's one single provider.
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My call for sort of work and filling in the gray areas there.
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We now have light for most of the county in identifying where tensions are going to be addressed.
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So we're well positioned to take advantage of that.
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and we're hopeful that it requires some significant dollars but it is going to require our board also to provide seed money because these grants are going to be matching grants and we're going to need that 25 to 33 percent in to be able to acquire those funds so that's something we're going to be talking about internally.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:15:11
The question's on the PDC platform before we get Greg to sign this list.
Ned Gallaway
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
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Madam Chair, I'd just like to make a comment about the SOQ and the importance of the state funding, fully funding and share of the standards of quality.
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And all I want to point out is, as you all know, in 2015, the fall, the JLART came out and showed a study where Virginia on average is spending about on average in state education, but the localities are paying above average.
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and in the whole southeast region, Virginia, localities pay even more of their share than the rest of the southeast region.
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And I think that speaks to the importance of education to local governments in Virginia.
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This past August, July-August, there's a magazine called Virginia Town and City, which we receive on a regular basis.
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I don't know if you're familiar with that.
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But in the July-August division, Jim Regemal, did I say his name right?
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Is a name you may all be familiar with.
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He had a nice article in there called Providing Educational Opportunity for Low-Income Children.
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and it's not just spoke to the bigger idea of fully funding SOQs but also start to get in there where monies could be targeted to really go to educational divisions and I think there's some good things in there to be looking at while you're looking at the budget.
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I think we've started to move the needle over the last couple of years but since 2008 the needle certainly could be moved back
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We're local because that'll free up localities to be able to improve that funding that they shifted to education into other areas that are important for our citizens.
SPEAKER_01
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There's been a lot of press about the surplus we will have with how big it will be as anybody's guess at this point.
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Medicaid wasn't forecast properly this past year so we would be able to surprise there.
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There will be more revenue increase, more revenue
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projections made before the budget gets finalized.
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So it's hard to tell, but I'm hopeful that we can begin to take some steps toward recovering some of the ground we've lost.
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Because as you know, we're not at 2008 levels of state investment education.
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And I'm hopeful that we can make some steps back toward recovering some of that ground we've lost.
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I want to say something else, if I can, about state budget and funding obligations.
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The last few years, I've been on this quest to fix
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I've asked Jaylark to take a look at coming up with a formula for funding CSBs, which is likely to affect localities.
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Maybe not Albemarle, because you all do a pretty good job, but some of the other localities in Region 10 don't.
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And so what we're looking at is coming up with a funding formula akin to the educational funding formula, though it's not going to have the same formula, not the same components.
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But it's likely to require, right now state law requires a 10% match of localities, but requires, allows localities to opt out, to claim hardship, and a lot of localities do.
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And the state pretty much grants hardships when they're requested.
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So that is likely, and that's not something that's going to happen this session, but it's something that over the long haul is going to be addressed.
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We'll have some more information from Jaylark probably by the spring.
3. Albemarle County Legislative Priorities.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:18:34
Well if we have exhausted our questions so far on David's list, let's move on to what Greg had to say and then we'll
SPEAKER_08
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We have a slide presentation.
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This first slide is an overview of the board's four requested legislative initiatives and a little bit about the process, how we got here.
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We are a little late this year.
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This is one that we began working with the board
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initially over the summer and then started coming to the board in September, October and the last time November 7th when they adopted their final package.
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Some of these bills, David and I and members of the board, we have reached out to legislators to find their interest in carrying these bills.
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The first one, location of general district courts and David and I met with delegates Bell and Toscano back in early October and that bill has been pre-filed, legislation has been pre-filed David was working with delegate Ferris with respect to the mailing notices and something violation and that also has been pre-filed
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The public safety legislation was one that the county
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was an initiative of the county last year as well, Delegate Tascano filed.
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Both the city and the county are asking for that to enable an authority.
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Again, there is a bill that has been pre-filed in the House for the City of Roanoke.
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For memorials and monuments was a late addition.
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This was one that was added to the board's initiatives at the November 7th meeting.
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And we'll talk about all of these in just a moment.
Liz Palmer
00:20:43
So, but we missed the deadline on those last two?
SPEAKER_01
00:20:48
Here's the thing, when you meet this late in the year, yesterday was the deadline to request Bill's draft, so your meeting really needs to be earlier in the year.
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Legislators need to know in advance, then you'd be given some options or something because just two weeks ago we were told this was the day you had to meet and I had to move some things to be here and the other guys couldn't do that.
SPEAKER_03
00:21:15
In the short session, I believe each side now has limits of how many you can carry.
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So, like the House has 15, Steve has drafted way more than a day.
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and that would include, so now after the pre-file date, we would have no slots available.
SPEAKER_05
00:21:40
So, with respect to the last two, as Greg mentioned on the weapons prohibition, there's already another bill anticipating that there will be additional bills, which Dave and I had those bills last year, we've had those bills again this year, so that's already done.
SPEAKER_11
00:21:56
But notice of zoning violations, you're saying it's coming from
SPEAKER_05
00:22:01
I actually got the request in on the House and the Senate side.
SPEAKER_01
00:22:07
That bill is going to undo some legislation that passed a year or two ago and what we told David I think before was that you need to get BACO involved in that because if BACO had been involved in the first place that bill wouldn't have passed.
SPEAKER_05
00:22:20
Actually what they were trying to do was totally unrelated.
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The certified versus registered male was not the issue and somewhere in the craziness that other language got in there.
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The patron of the bill two years later said that wasn't my problem and I don't have a problem if you want to certify.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:22:45
And I just want to get back really quickly to this process problem because obviously we had a disconnect this year.
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Two weeks is not enough time to be requesting time with you all.
SPEAKER_01
00:22:59
So, Craig, from your viewpoint, when should we be meeting?
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:23:06
We're waiting so late and then I didn't realize that we just told you the date.
SPEAKER_01
00:23:20
And what makes sense is just to call the offices and see what, get a bunch of dates and say what date works for you.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:23:27
Right, because we were, in all honesty, we were wondering why you were the only one.
SPEAKER_11
00:23:31
That whole honesty, and it's, I think,
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David was saying that this may be the first one he's ever missed.
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But you know what it is?
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We'll learn from this and next year we'll do it early.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:23:46
But I just want to make sure we have a conversation so we all know what the problem was and how to fix it.
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Because we don't want to be in this position again next year.
SPEAKER_03
00:23:55
And Ann emailed last night and asked, was there legislative meetings pop up?
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But in Steve's case, it was work.
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He works for someone and they plan projects.
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Steve even had to cancel a summit that he was supposed to be on this week.
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So things do crop up.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:24:18
But what I think we're hearing is August or September is ideal.
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So we will look towards that next year and not.
SPEAKER_11
00:24:27
And as Judy was saying, every other year we're limited.
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So next year we won't be.
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Those every other years are better as far as additional maybe secondary desires because we have the capacity.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:24:43
And it's always a scramble to see who else is putting something in that we can tag on to as opposed to doing multiple, multiple, multiple things on the same topic which is sort of silly.
SPEAKER_11
00:24:52
And to that point, Delegate Ferris did introduce this so we can sign on to it.
SPEAKER_05
00:24:59
Do you get the draft of the question?
00:25:01
I don't know that this needs to be on both the House and the Senate side.
00:25:03
I did that kind of a stopgap.
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It takes a few minutes.
SPEAKER_01
00:25:06
And another reason to do it early is because everybody's got the same problem.
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You can only request 15 in the House, 25 in the Senate, so everybody has a problem.
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And you've got to pick which 25 or which 15 am I going to introduce.
00:25:19
You might request a lot more drafts.
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Which is a new thing.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:25:21
So if you meet early, you can talk about it, figure out who's going to do what.
00:25:24
I represent including towns.
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I represent 16 localities.
00:25:28
Right.
SPEAKER_08
00:25:29
It wasn't intentional, but part of this year's board's key legislative initiative relates to the courts and the general district court
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The agreement was entered into yesterday, so that partially drove the timing of this.
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We had hoped that would have been entered into a little bit earlier in the year, but there were a lot of issues to hire now.
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And so, but yesterday the city council and the board did approve the memorandum of agreements, which
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facilitates the expansion of the county's courts.
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You're there in the current location.
00:26:36
Can I suggest one other thing that might be helpful?
SPEAKER_07
00:26:38
I do like the idea of trying to have it earlier in this year.
00:26:42
We're really constrained because of the court session.
00:26:45
But one thing I think would be helpful for us as a body is to really think about the strategy for the short session, which was different than the strategy for the long session.
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that when we think about putting anything new into the short section, the goal is to put the marker out there and really test the waters and think about effective implementation at the earliest for the following year.
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Whereas if we're in the short section after having introduced legislation
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in the long session here before.
00:27:19
It's to try to build more consensus in support of the bill, understanding that it all likely wouldn't get it through the fourth century, but we may, but the probability is not.
00:27:30
In other words, for us to be more adept, it would probably inflame the legislative bill introduction and consensus building
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and many others.
00:27:57
and being able to address it.
00:27:59
So I think for us to be more strategically adept and more aware of short versus long session and playing a strategic game with each of these bills and thinking, really, where do we see the greatest likelihood of these getting passed?
00:28:14
And then I think we can be more effective with you and you with us in doing that.
SPEAKER_08
00:28:20
So this is a map that was presented to the board last night that shows the situation of the county.
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This is Court Square, which is really just two-thirds of this block.
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This is within the county.
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It's unincorporated territory.
00:28:44
And the property where the city and the county have agreed to relocate the general district court would be from this building across the street into the city onto this property here.
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This is the Levy Opera House.
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This building would be demolished in a three-story general district court building to be shared.
00:29:07
The city would have one general district court set and the county would have
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Two completed and one shelved over on this property.
00:29:17
That move and that piece of property, those two parcels that make up what we refer to as leaving property are jointly owned by the city and the county.
00:29:28
So that, it seems to be apparently a minor move, falls within some legislative gaps.
00:29:36
So one is that under state law, one of the two statutes that we'll look at on the next slide.
00:29:46
Let me just pull that up now.
SPEAKER_01
00:29:49
Rob and David already have that drafted.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:29:53
So there are two issues.
SPEAKER_08
00:30:01
One is that the property is jointly held and state law requires that the
00:30:05
County or the city hold the land and improvements in fee and it's unclear whether that could be jointly held property and the other issue is that the 16.1-69.35 gives the authority to the chief judge of the general district court the authority to determine where in addition to the county seat general district court
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may be held.
00:30:33
So if the county seat is within the county's portion of Court Square, we have no assurance that any chief judge now or in the future would allow general district court to be held across the street in the levy opera, the levy property.
00:30:52
So these two
00:30:55
Statutes we proposed for amendment to address this situation.
00:31:01
There are two other statutes that I found in my review dealing with civil jurisdiction and civil cases and jurisdiction in criminal cases that may also need to be revised.
00:31:14
Those are part of the draft legislation that I shared with delegates Bell and Toscano and were submitted to legislative services.
00:31:26
The next one, this one's already been discussed.
00:31:30
Amending once again Virginia Code section 15.2 2311A, the change that happened in 2017 was that the prior law allowed registered or certified mail to be used to serve a notice of violation.
00:31:46
The 2017 amendment deleted
00:31:51
the ability to use certified mail and most people know registered mail is much more expensive than certified mail but it serves the same purpose in verifying mailing and receipts so this would just fix a apparently an inadvertent error in 2017.
00:32:13
Caring specified
00:32:15
loaded weapons.
00:32:17
This was a priority for the board last year.
00:32:20
Under current law there are eight cities and five counties that have the authority to make it unlawful for any person to carry specified semiautomatic weapons and shotguns in these various public areas.
00:32:37
The types of weapons that are actually
00:32:39
Regulated under this enabling authority are semi-automatic, centerfire rifles or pistols that are equipped at the time of the offense with a magazine that will hold more than 20 rounds of ammunition
00:32:52
or designed by the manufacturer to accommodate a silencer or equipped with a folding stock and shotguns with magazines that will hold more than seven rounds.
00:33:03
The board is requesting this again.
00:33:05
The city is also requesting this and there is a bill, I missed the bill last year that failed to be pre-filed again this year.
00:33:19
That one is for the city of Barone.
SPEAKER_01
00:33:22
David Knott, both I think had the bill last year, it was killed both sides last year, so we have requested an easy grant.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:33:33
Trying to improve its language to maybe not kill it, or just to bring it back up again?
SPEAKER_01
00:33:36
No, just to bring it back up again, but the language as is, you gotta understand, it doesn't exclude carrying all guns.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:33:43
I understand, I mean it's shocking that you can have 19 or 20 rounds and kill 20 people, but you can't kill 21.
SPEAKER_01
00:33:52
I mean, they actually, we carried, I carried two bills, I'm not sure.
00:33:57
I carried this bill and another bill that would have allowed localities to prohibit firearms.
00:34:06
And that bill was broader in that building bill area.
00:34:09
That bill didn't get much discussion.
00:34:11
This bill got some discussion because it's more narrowly drawn.
SPEAKER_07
00:34:16
20 rounds is a full magazine.
00:34:21
Excuse me.
SPEAKER_06
00:34:26
Could you define what a silencer is?
00:34:37
Because that's no longer the term achieved by most people.
00:34:40
It's called a noise suppressor, and such things as a silencer.
00:34:46
Another issue, how would this affect concealed carry?
SPEAKER_08
00:34:51
The fourth initiative is, again, the one pertaining to the county's statue.
00:35:12
This one, the county's war memorial is located in front of the circuit court.
00:35:21
There are petitions circulating both supporting its removal and supporting its retention.
00:35:26
And the petition supporting its removal was presented to the board, I believe, at the November 7th meeting.
00:35:44
This is another piece of legislation that is
00:35:49
also one that the city is supporting.
SPEAKER_11
00:35:59
We've carried that out.
00:36:01
I'm sorry, Delegate Tescano carried that bill last session because we filed it.
00:36:07
It never made it out of committee, nor did a myriad of like bills that other legislators filed.
00:36:15
We're carrying it again this year.
00:36:17
We'll see what happens.
SPEAKER_08
00:36:18
Yeah, there were several bills.
00:36:21
Delegate Discano's bill was passed by indefinitely in subcommittee six to two.
00:36:27
Senator Wexton had a bill.
00:36:32
That bill was passed by indefinitely in committee seven to six.
00:36:38
That was just a one line amendment that was rather broad.
00:36:44
And as Jane said, there were some other
00:36:47
bills that likewise failed.
00:36:51
The one thing about this one, which distinguishes it from the bill that was last year, one issue that the board has talked about is contextualizing the statues.
00:37:02
And our research, looking at the terms that are in the existing statute which prohibit localities or any people from also interfering or disturbing with the war memorials or monuments,
00:37:17
Looking at the definition of contextualize and interfere and disturb, as long as contextualization does not interfere or disturb under existing law, we think a locality has the ability to contextualize.
00:37:35
But there was concern about also making sure that that is clarified in the state law.
00:37:43
but also to make it declaratory of existing law because we think that authority exists right now.
00:37:49
This is just to expressly state that ability.
00:37:52
Again, but contextualizing the way we're looking at it could not interfere or disturb the memorial or the monument.
00:38:05
There are a couple of other statutes that refer back to section 15.2-1812.
00:38:11
One is 1812.1, which imposes civil liability.
00:38:16
That's an issue that the city is dealing with in their litigation in Virginia Code section 18.2-1812.
00:38:23
137 loses criminal liability for violating the statute.
00:38:29
The courts underlined rationale for seeking the enabling authorities to give locals control over these war memorials and the monuments that are on the county's property.
Liz Palmer
00:38:45
Great.
00:38:46
With respect to clarifying the contextualizing, there's nothing going through this particular session that could do that.
00:38:57
Is that correct or no?
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:38:59
Is that possible in building shoot-free files or not?
SPEAKER_11
00:39:02
Well, when drafts come back you can amend them, but we're not out of time to do that.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:39:09
That might be the place to do that, so that we have a clear understanding of what we can do as far as contextualization.
SPEAKER_08
00:39:16
And delegate to Skano's bill last year did include contextualization.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:39:21
because that's what this board has talked about several times, you know.
00:39:26
Yes, and the one twig is just making it declaratory of existing law.
SPEAKER_07
00:39:32
The one thing I would just observe is I think the first verb last year in that bill was move, which was a red flag for people reading it.
00:39:42
So if there can be some way that the move is not the first.
SPEAKER_08
00:39:49
The way we have stated the priority, retention, relocation, removal, contextualization.
00:40:13
Planning District Commission, the board also supports the impact fee legislation.
00:40:18
Last year's SB 944 and 208.
00:40:24
Targeting grants for businesses that pay higher wages.
SPEAKER_05
00:40:33
That was, I believe, from the JLAC report.
Ned Gallaway
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:40:40
The JLARC study that came out in July on workforce and small business incentives, I thought was a pretty good document.
00:40:46
Our economic development office has scrutinized it and supports some of the recommendations that come out of that report.
00:40:54
And this is a specific one, support targeting grants for businesses to pay the higher wages.
00:40:58
That's embedded in that JLARC study.
00:41:01
I would also make mention that
00:41:03
This seems to take some that maybe don't have the most highly, what the Jaylark study recommends is taking some of the monies that are not highly as effective and combining them with ones that are effective, which makes sense.
00:41:16
It may also be time to look at perhaps what some other states do to incentivize business if there are other tools out there, especially outside of development areas that could be helpful in the commonwealth.
SPEAKER_08
00:41:30
Environmental legislation supporting legislation prohibiting and regulating disposable plastic bags, straws, and bottles.
00:41:37
And David has told us throughout the fall that there would be legislation forthcoming.
00:41:43
It looks like there is a bill that came in last year that has been pre-filed this year, SB number 193, which would give localities last year.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:41:55
We can take it back on that.
SPEAKER_08
00:42:03
and reducing the existing cap on net energy metering.
00:42:16
Right now under state law there is a cap of 1% and David again has assured us that there would be solar energy related legislation coming in.
Ned Gallaway
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:42:27
There are several bills that are showing up.
SPEAKER_05
00:42:33
I know there's a coalition of folks up in the Northern Virginia area.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:42:56
supporting funding for regional library systems
SPEAKER_08
00:43:22
The director of the Jefferson Madison Regional Library came and spoke to county department heads a couple of months ago and asked that the county support full funding under the formula that exists for regional libraries in 42.1 down to 48.
00:43:49
Our regional library has been underfunded according to the formula for years and in fiscal year 2019
00:43:59
JMRL was going to receive state aid under the formula the amount of $633,295 which is $469,393 less than what the formula called for under his calculations.
00:44:18
The funding levels have improved as the state has come out of the recession but there is still that deficit.
00:44:25
JMRL uses that funding to purchase books, DVDs, and things like that, so any gap in funding, they would be looking to the localities who composed the regional library system.
00:44:42
David's already spoken about the, both the counties and the planning districts' support for increased funding and health communications initiative.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:45:01
Jumping back to one quick question I should have asked during the court discussion.
00:45:06
Is this legislation just for our region or is this special legislation that requires a different passing level or is it a general approach that can just be standard?
SPEAKER_08
00:45:20
The language is written to address our situation but it is not specific.
00:45:26
If there are other localities that might have
00:45:29
this similar arrangement and the draft legislation that we, let me go back, that we've shared with Billie, it's Bill and Toscano, it really does refer to the general district court being on property
00:45:53
really just across the street so it is very narrow in its scope and in fact.
00:46:03
We don't know what the circumstances are in all of the localities and in the research that we did about three years ago we know that there are localities where courthouses have moved around maybe not fully
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:46:21
I think the way it's worked is in this general way.
SPEAKER_01
00:46:45
I guess it just depends on the way things are going.
SPEAKER_06
00:46:48
I don't know how it's going to work.
00:46:49
The wording is a little bit different because of the change in terminology in the industry.
00:46:55
Like I say, they don't use the term silencers anymore.
00:46:59
It's one issue.
00:47:01
The second issue is we have a lot of people in Missouri, I'll just say a lot, but numerous people
SPEAKER_01
00:47:10
I think if the law says you can't carry a gun, you can't carry a gun even if you have a concealed carry gun.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:47:22
in these particular circumstances we're talking about.
SPEAKER_01
00:47:24
These particular areas, yeah.
00:47:26
These particular areas, yeah.
00:47:27
But the noise, I haven't gotten a draft back yet from new legislation, so I don't know, I don't know about the silencer or the voice suppressor issue.
00:47:37
Sometimes, usually they catch those things in drafting, but I'll take a look.
SPEAKER_06
00:47:42
In a huge example, I could not carry a gun into this building if I had to consider it.
00:47:48
Were you a bank or a voting place,
00:47:51
and various other places that were posted that were not allowed.
00:47:55
But if I wanted to go to a public space and carry a concealed weapon, I can do that.
SPEAKER_01
00:48:03
But if there's an ordinance, I think the law would override that.
00:48:08
Wouldn't it override the second amendment?
00:48:10
No, it doesn't override the second amendment.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:48:12
Thank you very much.
00:48:13
We'll continue to keep an eye on that as it comes forward in the press.
4. Legislators' Priorities/Discussion.
SPEAKER_03
00:48:20
If you're asking what types of things he's had drafted, I assume, of course
00:48:55
things drafted.
00:48:59
I can't tell you it's going to be introduced.
00:49:03
I can't tell you anything's going to be introduced.
00:49:05
We're going to pick 15, and he's the one to do that.
00:49:09
And he hasn't seen all the what's been drafted yet, so that makes it more difficult too.
00:49:17
But he's got a couple of things for higher ed, and he's doing something with the
00:49:24
Hopefully with the Virginia 529, which limits the contract price, he's trying to make it better for parents.
00:49:35
There's an Early Childhood Success Act bill.
00:49:41
and so there's something that they've been talking about and we put in a draft but we don't know exactly what it is like and then there's something with an education improvement scholarship fund so those are the types of things that
00:50:05
that he's looking at.
00:50:07
Oh, and there is something with SOL's verified credit, with verified credits, and I haven't seen that one either.
00:50:16
But he's got a couple of bills in, trying to make it easier for, obviously, for patients, clients.
00:50:28
And he's got a bill that has
00:50:34
Then introduced HB 1615, which is looking at the date of the June primary, moving a primary date from the second Tuesday to the third Tuesday, I believe.
00:50:48
There's been a lot of talk about that.
00:50:50
So just put that in.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:50:53
I agree.
00:50:54
Does that make it worse?
00:50:55
No.
00:50:56
Saying in June is great.
00:50:57
What I heard through the news was they were proposing moving it into September.
00:51:08
from schools.
SPEAKER_03
00:51:10
And the one on the Virginia 529, that has been introduced too.
00:51:15
You can take a look at that.
00:51:17
That's 1611, House Bill 1611.
00:51:23
Ann, he's trying to work to reintroduce the one on absentee voting for overseas veterans.
00:51:31
We'll speak that up a little, maybe turn it into more of a study or pilot program to see if we can get some traction on that.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:51:43
I was just going to say, when we're talking about education, it does remind me, and I think y'all can correct me if I'm wrong, especially Ned may know because of the school board, but I think our school system is saying that they are about 600 plus
00:52:03
the first student behind where they were in 07 at this point.
00:52:08
Isn't that right Ned?
Ned Gallaway
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:52:10
That's about right.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:52:11
So that's a number that you can take home, you can take to the bag that puts
00:52:17
It shows you how far behind we are in funding our schools.
00:52:22
I thought they were inflation adjusted, were they not?
Ned Gallaway
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:52:29
I don't think that number is adjusted.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:52:31
Maybe not.
00:52:34
And there's a big difference depending on what.
00:52:36
But I know the school system, that's something we can check out and let you guys know because that's a really good number to have.
00:52:43
600 and some dollars per student, which when you have 13 or 14 thousand students, you start talking some real money.
00:52:52
That you're behind.
00:52:54
From the 07, yes.
00:52:55
From the 07 level.
00:52:58
which is your guess.
00:52:59
I mean, you know, our school division wouldn't be needing extra money if from us.
00:53:06
And then we would have money to be putting towards other things like whatever.
00:53:13
But you're talking funding.
Liz Palmer
00:53:14
I'm talking funding, yeah.
00:53:15
I'm just talking it.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:53:17
We were talking about schools and it reminded me that we do have that number.
00:53:20
We ought to just see if we can't get that and send that to everybody so they at least have the accurate number and make sure it's what it is, real dollars.
Ned Gallaway
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:53:29
It can be funding, but it also can be, when I mentioned Jim Redge-Hall's article, there can be some specific things that you can go in and target where the bigger argument of just getting more funding could be obviously complicated because there's competing interests and we've seen how that's played out.
00:53:43
But when you can find specific things where you know it's going to go to and explain the impact, then that could maybe generate larger or more support.
00:53:52
And that's why I referred to that article because he gets in there about specifically for low-income children and how you can target some things there.
00:53:58
I will say this with the SOQ funding because as you all know the way the formula goes
00:54:11
If we just staffed at the SOQ level, you wouldn't have a complete school of educators for special education needs, physical education needs, for fine arts needs, and for libraries, counselors.
00:54:24
So, you know, when you look at high performing, average performing, even low performing school divisions, when they say this is the complete staff we need, if that division is limited to just what they're receiving from SOQ funding,
00:54:36
They're not properly educating their children.
00:54:39
So that's, I believe that.
00:54:41
And if we can get that fully funding piece back in line, that's really going to go a long way to helping lift the burden of what the local, what locals have picked up as the state funding has been completed.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:54:53
You have a high school, 2,000 students, you wouldn't even have vice principals.
00:54:57
You haven't been principal.
Ned Gallaway
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:54:58
You could have part-time principals, that's right.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:55:00
So, I mean, it's ludicrous.
SPEAKER_03
00:55:03
I think he's also looking at the issue of school counselors.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:55:06
That would be good.
SPEAKER_01
00:55:07
Was that part of the 24 recommendations you had on school safety?
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:55:11
Yeah, it probably was.
00:55:12
I think it was.
00:55:13
I think it's connected to that, yes.
00:55:16
Well, we'll send you the link to that article and then that number, 600, and clarify exactly.
00:55:23
No dollars or inflation adjusted.
00:55:25
That's great.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:55:26
And from the citizens of the White Hall district, who I know
00:55:29
I don't recall seeing the revenue sharing on my list.
00:55:55
Jane, you want to go next in case your deadline appears, and then we'll let Jordan come back to you.
SPEAKER_11
00:56:00
I'm going to let Senator Hughes talk about health insurance premium legislation.
00:56:06
It's fantastic.
00:56:07
Relegate Huscano and Senator Musil have held many meetings this year, not only with the local health care coalition, but others, Bureau of Insurance, to try to get a handle on what legislatively can be done to help.
00:56:20
We, Delegate Toscano, also proofed out something on no excuse early voting.
00:56:39
As some of you may remember, he has almost every year done something for multiple builds on renewable energy.
00:56:49
He's got a solar bill in for agribusiness to be able to bypass the net metering and reclaim.
00:56:59
We'll see.
00:57:00
He was able to pass a study bill last year on storage, solar storage.
00:57:08
That study is being paid for by the Commonwealth.
00:57:10
We'll have an interim report this spring, a final report in September early enough to see what legislation can support that.
00:57:18
He believes that that is the key to being able to really push ahead renewables and less dependence on passengers.
00:57:28
One bill that I might have interrupted when we were talking about permitted carrying in public spaces was last year.
00:57:38
We had a bill that failed, which would have allowed localities to make up their own minds about whether guns could be used to get permitted events.
00:57:49
It failed.
00:57:50
However, the AG's office liked that bill, picked it up, studied it.
00:57:54
It has been prefiled, and I know that will make the cut of 15.
00:58:00
Just in terms of numbers, he prefiled 24 bills.
00:58:04
We only have 15 allowance, so he's got some hard decisions to make.
00:58:10
The deadline for the Division of Legislative Services, which are the attorneys that work with us to draft these bills, getting it back to us is the 28th of December.
00:58:19
So we'll have everything back hopefully before then, but that will be the deadline and then we will do in time for the January 8th filing deadline.
00:58:29
We'll keep you informed about that.
SPEAKER_10
00:58:33
So I asked Elegant Bell if there was anything specific he wanted me to talk about and he was hesitant because he had close to 40 ideas and so he hasn't really committed to a whole lot and he's going to wait and get those drafts back.
00:58:51
He serves on the crime commission, he serves on SJ47, he served on the safety committee.
00:58:59
likely carried something on their behalf.
00:59:03
He also shares House courts, and he has pre-filed the general district court bill.
00:59:14
He hasn't committed to carrying it, so if there's anyone looking to, I'm up in the air as well.
00:59:22
That's going to get worked out.
SPEAKER_01
00:59:44
People ask me when is the best time to talk to a legislator.
00:59:48
I tell them not during the session because the session is kind of a dawn to dusk thing where you are busting all the time and generally the earlier the better.
01:00:00
I tell them come and see me in May or June or July and let's start talking about it then.
01:00:06
and then we get the draft.
01:00:07
And so at this point we're kind of in a nether land because yesterday was the day we had to submit requests.
01:00:13
But the bills, we have a few exceptions, but mostly yesterday was it.
01:00:19
And then we'll get the drafts back the 28th and we'll have to pre-file the day before the session.
01:00:27
I think that's the way the rules work.
01:00:29
When I first went down there, it was just kind of like you showed up and you had it all drafted the first week and you went to all the cocktail parties.
01:00:39
That's a relic.
01:00:43
Now, one of my big priorities will be mental health.
01:00:46
It's been a priority of mine for a number of years.
01:00:49
And we're going to be meeting, as a matter of fact, this afternoon to try to iron out our specific proposals for the year.
01:00:56
So what I did is I just, I introduced, I requested five or six broad drafts, maybe probably seven or eight, broad drafts to cover some of the ideas because the commission that we're working on has to complete its work by next year.
01:01:10
And we still have some major work to do, not only
01:01:13
We kind of revised or revamped what the CSPs have to do.
01:01:18
We've got to come up with a better way of funding.
01:01:21
We've got to come up with a better structure because ultimately what I want to do is create a system out of these 40 CSPs and 10 hospitals that are kind of orbiting around one another but not really connected.
01:01:32
We have to have a system and we're still a ways from getting that done, but that's going to be a priority.
01:01:38
Jane talked a little bit about the health care bills.
01:01:41
David and I have submitted I think five or six drafts that are aimed generally at making sure what happened last year in Charlottesville doesn't happen again.
01:01:51
And that's very difficult because in the marketplace you only have one provider and they can charge pretty much what they want to do.
01:01:59
We need to make sure that the Bureau of Insurance has the tools it needs to make sure that doesn't happen.
01:02:07
I met with folks from the Bureau of Insurance over a year ago to try to figure out why this is about to occur.
01:02:15
And those people seemed flustered.
01:02:17
They seemed like they had done everything they could, but I'm not sure they did.
01:02:21
And I want specifically to make sure that
01:02:26
When there is excess surplus, more surplus, the insurance companies are guaranteed X number amount of surplus above cost under code.
01:02:35
When there's excess surplus in an insurance situation, I want there to be a refund, much as there is with utilities.
01:02:41
I want the state corporation commission to have the authority to order refunds to be issued in that situation.
01:02:49
I'm not sure that that sort of legislation
01:02:51
would retroactively apply here because there's some concern about some of the folks in Charlottesville who have been working diligently on this for months.
01:03:01
Some concern that there are huge excess profits.
01:03:06
And so we're going to take a look at the whole situation.
01:03:09
We've got, as I said, five or six drafts.
01:03:13
And we'll have to figure out how we divvy those up and which ones get introduced to which ones wait.
01:03:20
There's been a lot of talk about electoral, about changing the electoral system and I swear to goodness I think that since 2002 or 2003 I've introduced constitutional amendments on redistricting reform to change the process of redistricting.
01:03:38
So you put people in a chance to actually choose folks that represent them instead of people that are in my position choosing the people that elect them.
01:03:48
I think we have some momentum to get something done this year.
01:03:52
I think that some folks in the past probably thought this was too much.
01:03:57
They want it back the way it is.
01:03:59
I'm worried now that the majority of it is slipped away.
01:04:02
and they like the idea to have an arbiter of this district team who sits outside of the legislative process.
01:04:09
And of course, I think that as long as legislators draw the line, there's an inherent conflict of interest.
01:04:17
And so it makes sense to me that it be outside of the process.
01:04:21
There are a number of ideas.
01:04:24
I'll submit the same things.
01:04:25
I've introduced multiple times in the past.
01:04:28
and there will probably be other ideas.
01:04:31
I'm a practical guy.
01:04:32
I'm for getting things done, not necessarily for making sure it's my idea.
01:04:38
My idea might not be the best one that's out there and I'm interested in seeing those ideas go forward.
01:04:45
One issue that we'll all have to deal with this time, as I said, we've got this surplus and how much surplus there is and what we get to do with it.
01:04:57
First, there's an issue of conformity with the federal tax law.
01:05:00
But that's where we start.
01:05:01
We start with conformity.
01:05:03
Because if we don't conform, we kind of make everybody's tax preparations even difficult.
01:05:11
So we start with conformity, and then we see what we do with what's left.
01:05:16
I think education makes a good argument.
01:05:20
And the Western part of the district, the Western part of this area that I represent, and indeed all of Western Virginia,
01:05:26
I-81 is kind of the economy, or it drives the economy.
01:05:32
I've called it many times in the past.
01:05:34
It's the NAFTA highway.
01:05:35
That road carries more truck traffic than any other road in the Commonwealth of Virginia.
01:05:40
It also is so bucolic Augusta, or Rockingham, or Shenandoah.
01:05:47
At any time, you're going to sit in traffic for 45 minutes or an hour behind a wreck.
01:05:54
So the VDOT Commonwealth Transportation Board has commissioned a bunch of studies, they've got a bunch of work to basically tell us what we already know.
01:06:04
Number one, that there are huge needs.
01:06:06
Okay, well I'm anxious to see those because we have to come up with some realistic solution.
01:06:19
Evan Hanger last year on the bill to create a funding, to create a special, you know, in my view in 2013 we did transportation.
01:06:27
We began, we screwed it up for the rest of us.
01:06:30
We had to do something with transportation.
01:06:33
The needs were so bad and our maintenance money was out.
01:06:36
But we began the balkanization of our economy by allowing Northern Virginia and Hampton Roads to raise their own money.
01:06:43
We need those areas because they're the prosperous areas of the state.
01:06:47
We need them to build roads in our part of the state.
01:06:50
We only raised enough money in that bill
01:06:52
to basically maintain what we have outside of Hampton Roads, Northern Virginia.
01:06:57
Now we're in a situation where we need two to four billion dollars over the next 20 years to fix 81.
01:07:04
And that's not adding another eight lanes or another six lanes or two.
01:07:09
That's just basically making some climbing lanes and making some spot improvements between Bristol and Winchester, 320 miles.
01:07:21
So we're going to have to raise that money probably ourselves within the 81 corridor.
01:07:27
And that's going to occupy, I think, a lot of political capital this time.
01:07:32
It's going to take a lot of time to figure out what we're going to do.
01:07:36
But because what happens, I think we are commonwealth.
01:07:39
I think what happens in one part of Virginia affects all of us.
01:07:43
Northern Virginia is 20% of the population, about 40% of the revenue.
01:07:51
So what goes on there is important to us.
01:07:54
Hampton Roads, with its large military presence, what goes on there is important to us.
01:07:59
What goes on here ought to be important to us.
01:08:02
We've got a really challenging session.
01:08:04
46 days will go by quickly split, so very quickly.
SPEAKER_00
01:08:11
Question about the redistricting.
01:08:13
beyond Virginia or in Virginia's respected nonpartisan group that can analyze things.
01:08:20
It seems like it's always everywhere, not just Virginia.
01:08:24
It's kind of confusing about what makes it nonpartisan.
SPEAKER_01
01:08:27
The problem is there have been about 17 or 18 states that have some form of nonpartisan redistricting.
01:08:35
In some states, like New Jersey, they do it outside of the legislative process.
01:08:39
Iowa, which probably does it better than anybody,
01:08:42
They have this criteria that's pretty remarkable.
01:08:46
It's in their constitution.
01:08:47
But the final approval comes back from the General Assembly, comes back from the legislature.
01:08:52
So is there somebody outside that analyzes it?
01:08:55
There probably is.
01:08:56
I don't know who they would be.
01:08:58
I know that we have groups in Virginia that are interested in this that have done a lot of work.
01:09:03
I mean, I don't agree with every position they've taken.
01:09:06
But I think that I don't know who outside of the state
01:09:12
Okay, but when you hear about what's going on in Wisconsin, what went on, and we'll hear about it a couple of years ago.
Liz Palmer
01:09:22
Here's a quick comment and a quick question.
01:09:24
I love it that you just talked about the balkanization of the transportation money because it just brings to mind what happens in communities on education when we depend more and more on property taxes to fund our education and less from the state from the income tax and other sources because we end up with school districts that are wealthier than others and are better funded.
SPEAKER_01
01:09:48
And I don't know how you change that.
01:09:50
With school, what we have to find, we have to find the place where you incentivize people to do what they can.
01:09:59
The state provides a level of funding that provides an adequate education.
01:10:04
You're always going to have the wealthy.
01:10:06
You're always going to have Fairfax County.
01:10:09
Mental health spending, for example, we spend, the localities spend about $130 million.
01:10:16
Fairfax County spends about $120 million of that.
01:10:20
How are you going to change that?
01:10:22
We can't take Fairfax County's local tax and spread it out.
01:10:26
We want to incentivize them to continue to spend what they're spending.
01:10:30
We just want everybody else to step up their game.
01:10:33
And Virginia's got to step up their game too.
Liz Palmer
01:10:36
The basics as Ned was talking about earlier is important.
01:10:40
My other, just a comment, I don't know if you can speak to this or not, but I just want to say it while you're all here.
01:10:46
When you talked about 81 and all the truck traffic, one of the things that we
01:10:54
I know we can't cure stupid.
01:11:19
However, my question is really quick that
01:11:23
the mapping situation.
01:11:26
When people go on to Google Maps or whatever, these road restrictions problems are not listed at all.
01:11:34
I downloaded three trucker apps to my own phone and tried one pathway that was causing us.
01:11:42
None of them said that the tractor trailers couldn't make the turn I was looking at.
01:11:48
So our VDOT says they can't communicate with, they can't get up on Google Maps or these other mapping places.
01:11:56
Our county staff has tried, let the state help.
SPEAKER_01
01:12:01
I don't know that, but I'll tell you that the VDOT people when they're on the road, they use Waze.
01:12:07
That's the best for telling your path.
01:12:13
But the issue raised is important because one idea that's been thrown out there for 81 is trucks only tolls.
01:12:20
And my biggest fear about trucks only being tolled is that that will push the trucks to 11, 220, and 29.
01:12:29
That's not really a solution.
Liz Palmer
01:12:35
But if when you're going around talking to other groups, if anybody ever finds out the solution to this, to try to get a hold of these other, because we have the police officers saying they're stopping these tractor-trailer drivers, and they're going by, not ways, they're going by other maps.
SPEAKER_01
01:12:53
Google Maps is wonderful, but I'll tell you that there's a road basically between Hot Springs and Clifton Forest.
01:13:00
If you've ever been on that road, it's going to be fun the first time you've gone through it.
01:13:05
But anyway, 220 South, and then you take the road over to the Airport Mountain, Clifton Forge, and trucks take that road occasionally.
01:13:17
because they follow their GPS.
01:13:19
And they get hung up.
01:13:21
A truck with any size at all is going to be hung up on curves.
01:13:25
And it happens several times a year.
01:13:26
Now there's a prohibition on trucks on stretching that road.
Liz Palmer
01:13:30
But I'm sure they're probably still using it.
SPEAKER_01
01:13:32
They're still using it.
Liz Palmer
01:13:33
And that's what I mean.
01:13:34
It seems like the trucking industry would be trying to do something about this because it's better for their drivers not to get hung up for three or four hours.
01:13:42
So just a comment.
01:13:45
Thank you.
01:13:46
OK, thank you very much.
SPEAKER_07
01:13:50
We took a park from the state last year.
01:13:54
The price tag on it to introduce it as a state park was $44 million.
01:13:58
And we ended up with $5 million out of the Dominion
01:14:05
Environmental Mitigation Funds, no state funding.
01:14:09
And we would like for you to keep that in mind because we'll be knocking on your doors.
01:14:15
We know it's a short session.
01:14:16
We're going to happen this year by just laying the foundation that we would like a minimum of $15 million, it doesn't have to all be in one year, phased in with time to enable us to open a regional park, which is what it is designed to be from the outset.
SPEAKER_01
01:14:32
Have you had any luck with other localities?
SPEAKER_07
01:14:36
No, in fact we had approached them through the TJPDC and they politely turned us down because Nelson, Rivanna both had other parks that they were preoccupied and the city of Charlottesville had other concerns and priorities.
Ned Gallaway
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:14:50
Madam Chair from A, Senator DeGioia will appreciate this.
01:14:52
I'd like to make a quick introduction.
01:14:54
Mr. Corey Cullinson here in the audience.
01:14:57
Corey is a student of mine at PVCC.
01:15:00
He has spent eight years in the Marine Corps and is now pursuing perhaps a degree in business and maybe transferring over to UVA but lives here in our area and is interested in how our local process work and maybe getting involved down the road.
01:15:13
So if anybody from staff and or
01:15:15
The legislative offices would have a chance for a one-on-one.
01:15:18
Hello to Corey, I would appreciate it.
01:15:19
Thank you for being here, Corey, and taking an interest.
01:15:22
Thanks, have a great day.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:15:24
Thank you for coming.
01:15:27
You need to run, I understand.
01:15:29
Is there anything else you all wanted to add, or have you conveyed all that you're able to convey to us at the moment?
01:15:35
I think we can hold it all.
SPEAKER_10
01:15:37
I just have one comment.
01:15:38
I think when there's an off year, so the 15 bill limit,
01:15:43
There's an odd seniority in the delegation here, and I feel like our bosses get hit up first for bill ideas, so that's just something else to keep in mind.
01:15:53
I'm not sure.
01:15:55
I'm not sure what you mean.
01:15:57
But you're all we have, so that's why we're here.
01:16:00
Our bosses have been around for a long time, so they often get hit up for bill ideas before maybe some other legislators.
SPEAKER_05
01:16:11
I'm just saying like the earlier the better.
SPEAKER_11
01:16:27
We will do a better job of planning next year.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:16:44
We will take like a two minute break and then we will go into our closed meeting after this.
5. Closed Meeting.
Ned Gallaway
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:17:12
pertaining to actual litigation between the board and global signal acquisitions where the consultation or briefing in an open meeting would adversely affect the negotiating or litigating posture of the county and the board and under subsection 8 to consult with and be briefed by legal counsel and staff regarding specific legal matters requiring legal advice relating to an existing wireless facility.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:17:33
Second.
01:17:34
Mr. Randolph?
Ned Gallaway
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:17:35
Aye.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:17:35
Mr. Dill?
Ned Gallaway
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:17:36
Yes.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:17:36
Mr. Galloway?
Ned Gallaway
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:17:37
Yes.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:17:38
Ms. Mallek?
01:17:39
Yes.
01:17:40
Ms. McKeel?
01:17:40
Yes.
01:17:41
Ms. Palmer?
01:17:42
Yes.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:17:43
Thank you everyone.
6. Certify Closed Meeting.
Ned Gallaway
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:18:14
I move that the Board certify by recorded vote that, to the best of each member's knowledge, only public business matters lawfully exempted from the open meeting requirements of the Virginia Freedom of Information Act and identified in the motion authorizing the closed meeting were heard, discussed, or considered in the closed meeting.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:18:32
Second.
01:18:32
Mr. Dill?
01:18:32
Yes.
01:18:33
Mr. Galloway?
01:18:34
Yes.
01:18:34
Ms. Mallek?
01:18:35
Yes.
01:18:35
Ms. McKeel?
01:18:36
Yes.
01:18:36
Ms. Palmer?
01:18:37
Yes.
7. Adjourn.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:18:38
Thank you everyone.
01:18:39
Now we need to adjourn.
01:18:40
We don't adjourn today because we're meeting tomorrow at one o'clock.
01:18:44
Very good!