Central Virginia
Albemarle County
Board of Supervisors Legislative Luncheon 11/29/2017
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Board of Supervisors Legislative Luncheon
11/29/2017
Attachments
Agenda.pdf
Minutes.pdf
Call to Order.
Welcome and Introductions.
2018 Legislative Priorities.
Thomas Jefferson Planning District Legislative Program.
Legislative Priorities/ Questions & Answers.
Adjourn.
Call to Order.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
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Okay, so we're good Claudette?
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All right, I'm gonna call us to order.
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Welcome to our legislative luncheon for today.
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We're pleased to have folks here.
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And right off the, from the very beginning, let me start with introductions.
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We're gonna move pretty quickly to our legislators.
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Priorities, which is at the end of our agenda because Rob and David are going to have to perhaps leave a little bit early.
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I understand you all have to be back in Richmond by what, 2 o'clock or 2.30?
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exactly, so we're gonna try and accommodate your schedule.
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Let me introduce first though, we have from Almar County Police Department, Officer Paul Inge.
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Thank you for being with us today.
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And I'd also like to take a minute to introduce our new county executive, and I'm gonna have to stop saying new.
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You've been here for.
SPEAKER_04
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Oh, I've got 30 days under my mouth, Madam Chair.
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30 days.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
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So our county executive, Jeff Richardson,
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And with that, let's do a mic check and an introduction.
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If everybody will just go around, make sure their mics are on.
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And if you can introduce yourself, Claudette will let you know with a nod of her head if she can hear you.
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Rick, would you start there?
SPEAKER_06
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Rick Randolph, Scottsville District.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
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Ann Mallek, White Hall.
SPEAKER_06
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Norman Dill, Rivanna District.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
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Diantha McKeel, Jack Jouett.
Liz Palmer
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
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Liz Palmer, Samuel Miller.
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Liz Palmer, Samuel Miller, getting better, getting better, Liz Palmer, Greg Kamptner, County Attorney, Jeff Richardson, County Executive, Senator Bryce Reeves, 17th District.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
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We want to be able to hear you, David.
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you're gonna have to hold it up to your mouth.
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Alright, welcome everyone.
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I think Jeff needs to be a little bit, maybe a little closer to his face.
2018 Legislative Priorities.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
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So David I was just explaining we understand that you all have a little bit of a time crunch as far as getting down to Richmond so if you look at the agenda we're gonna flip it a little bit and move to I think the suggestion was to move it to legislative priorities is that Greg what the thought was David that good
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Alright, so I'm going to turn it over to whichever one of you all is leading that discussion.
SPEAKER_05
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Do your first TJPVC.
SPEAKER_10
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I thought we were going to go with the counties first.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
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I honestly don't.
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I thought you and Greg were working it out.
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So it's between the two of you all.
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Yeah, that's what I was thinking too Ann.
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We're going to change the order a little bit.
SPEAKER_05
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Greg Kamptner, County Attorney, I want to thank the members of the General Assembly attending today.
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This is our opportunity to identify the legislative priorities for the county and this is a very short slideshow presentation.
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The board has identified four legislative priorities for this year and they are tailored to address some existing issues in Albemarle County that have been developing for a number of years and one of the priorities is centered on the events surrounding the August 12th Unite the Right rally.
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We are asking to join legislation that has been identified by the city.
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There are some themes in this year's priorities.
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The first is to address issues in the county's urban ring to make them more livable.
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For three of the four priorities, the county is merely asking to be added to the list of localities that are already identified in existing legislation.
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The first piece of legislation would be to amend Virginia Code section 46.2 1222, which would allow the county to regulate on-street parking on secondary highways.
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legislation already exists, a number of localities already have this authority to adopt ordinances that restrict parking, establish penalties, and provide classifications for vehicles.
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What we are finding in our urban ring, primarily the area surrounding the city of Charlottesville, is that we are
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having problems enforcing some of these issues through the zoning ordinance has been problematic and we are finding areas where parking on streets is creating conflict within particular neighborhoods.
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This particular piece of legislation and the one that I'll show you on the next slide are both tailored to deal with our urban ring.
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The overarching objective is to make it more livable.
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and it's also recognized that this urban ring is the county's urban core and as we proceed with economic development within the county's development areas and density increases on the residential side that we need to be proactive in making these communities as livable, pedestrian friendly, environmentally healthy as possible.
SPEAKER_07
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because in my neighborhood there recently some no parking signs were put up.
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What is the current, obviously somehow some way no parking signs get put up.
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What does this do that that law doesn't have?
SPEAKER_05
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How does current law work?
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And you're in Forest Lakes?
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Briarwood.
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Briarwood.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
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We don't have the ability to put up no parking signs in some of the areas.
SPEAKER_07
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Right, how did those signs get up if it wasn't by you guys?
SPEAKER_05
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We'll have to look at those.
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The state controls primary highways, and 29 is a primary highway, but the state also exercises control for a certain distance within, once you get off the primary highway, so it's possible there.
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It's possible that...
SPEAKER_07
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I'm not complaining, I'm just saying that there's obviously some mechanism that there was an issue about the fire trucks not being able to get down, so I mean, I just somehow
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Somehow, someway, there are ways that parking signs are, is this in addition to that or is that in lieu of that or?
SPEAKER_05
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This is to give us the express authority, this is, so this is in addition, it's also possible, I don't know off the top of my head whether all of the roads within Briarwood have been accepted into the state system?
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They have.
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They have, okay.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
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I do remember the discussion about people when there was parking on the curve at the entrance that it made it impossible for others to go in and out and that was what those signs at the lower end were result of that.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
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Some of the urban areas where we were looking at having these problems, Rob, we were specifically told that we could not use no parking signs.
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I don't know where that disconnect is, but.
SPEAKER_10
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No, okay, thank you.
SPEAKER_05
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The second priority would be for the county to obtain the authority that the localities in the counties in Virginia Planning District 8, and that's Fairfax, Arlington, Prince William, and I think there's a fourth, to require
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owners are occupants of property with sidewalks to remove snow and ice within a prescribed period of time.
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Again, having this authority would allow us to make our urban areas more livable.
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One thing that the board has been on for the last couple of years, and it's certainly moving into the future,
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is retrofitting our urban streets for sidewalks for many years.
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Even in the urban ring, sidewalks were not required, but they are required now by ordinance, but we do have a fairly aggressive program to build out sidewalks for those streets that were built to the rural design.
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So again, this would,
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is one of the tools that we are looking for that would make our urban ring more livable to handle increased density and to promote a healthy environment.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
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And we'd like to recognize that Delegate Landis arrived, so we appreciate you being here.
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Sorry we started so quickly.
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Well, we're trying to accommodate schedules.
SPEAKER_05
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The third priority would be asking Albemarle County to become one of the localities to which this provision of the criminal code applies.
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The city is also asking for it to be added
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to the localities to which it applies.
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It prohibits carrying loaded firearms and they are specified in the current statute.
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Semi-automatic rifles and pistols along with shotguns that are able to discharge certain types of shot and bullets.
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This would obviously improve public safety in public areas where many people may be present and
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The situation on August 12th really brought the need for legislation such as this to light.
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It is supported by our police chief.
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It said it would give them more control.
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Again, this will be part of the
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tools that the county uses in the event that we have these types of events such as the Unite the Right Rally again.
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We're waiting for the state report, which will be coming out on Friday, and the report from the city's consultant, which is due out next Monday.
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And we've been doing our own independent research
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in our office in order to make sure that in the event that we have these situations rising again we are fully ready.
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What we found with the county and our parks permitting rules that we need to modify them to deal with these types of situations.
SPEAKER_09
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I think that one of the key words in that is actually loaded.
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Yes.
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I mean, so that, you know, hunters could still drive through the county with a shotgun.
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They just can't have it loaded on their truck.
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Yes.
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And once they get off and go in to hunt, then they load up the shotgun and be on their merry way.
SPEAKER_05
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And the other part of the statute does create exceptions for law enforcement officers, security guards, military personnel, any person having a valid concealed handgun permit, or any person actually engaged in lawful hunting or recreational shooting at an established shooting range or shooting contest.
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So the existing legislation does carve out exceptions.
SPEAKER_09
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So it allows people to carry loaded shotguns
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If you're on your way to hunt.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
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So do I understand from what's written there then that any automatic weapon or semi-automatic weapon with 19 rounds is allowed to be carried loaded in our parks if this passes?
SPEAKER_05
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Yes.
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and the fourth priority is to amend section 15.2-1535 under the constitutional elected officials, elected officers of local governing bodies are not allowed to be appointed to other public bodies unless the enabling authority provides it or it is one of the
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16 to 20 public bodies that are identified in section 15.2-1535 and this is another priority that the city is joining in asking to amend this section so that members of the city council and
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The Board of Supervisors can be appointed to an executive board that would help oversee our local convention and visitors bureau, our tourism body.
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These bodies are funded by the localities and
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both bodies have a desire to have more direct oversight.
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The purpose of the convention visitors bureau is to promote the resources and advantages of the participating localities and that's from another provision of the state law and under this board, the local visitors board was established through a joint exercise of powers agreement.
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We see it as a way to further enhance the funds that are used to promote local tourism and regional tourism and so that's the reason that both the board and the city council are requesting this amendment.
SPEAKER_09
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piece of the article in the newspaper, and I wasn't sure, did Tourism Board take a position against what you're recommending here, or did they just, some of them, express concerns about it?
SPEAKER_05
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I wasn't... What I saw in the article, and I pulled in the paper late, there was one member of the current board who expressed some thought that they were being
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
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Jeff was at the meeting yesterday that we were reporting out on.
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Jeff was at the meeting, but what I will say is that Kathy Galvin and I, several weeks ago, made an appointment and went down and spoke with Kurt, the current director, and explained to him what we were
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looking to do, it's a little bit more of a model like we have with the airport authority you might think of because right now for Albemarle County we're investing about $840,000 of taxpayer funds, the city a little bit more than that.
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And so we've had the same model for about 14 years.
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and we're looking to really model it a little bit differently in that having an advisory board, which would be the same group of folks, but having representation from our elected officials at another level so that we have a better sense of exactly how taxpayer funds are being distributed.
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So Kurt and I went over that along with Kathy.
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He didn't seem to have, he asked questions, didn't have a lot of concerns at the time.
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And then it was presented to their executive board.
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Jeff was at that meeting and then yesterday it was presented to their entire board and there did seem to be a little confusion over what we were asking so I think we're going to be able to rectify that pretty quickly I think with their board.
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Jeff, would you like to just speak a little bit to the meeting yesterday perhaps because of the article in the paper this morning.
SPEAKER_04
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That what appeared to me, sir, was that board members were just genuinely asking questions, wanting to understand a little bit more of the reasons behind that.
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And I think what culminated out of that, the action that was taken yesterday was
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the board chair asked for several board members to to join him in asking the city council and the county board of supervisors for a meeting just to talk through the specifics of it to make sure everyone understood uh specifically what what what we're trying to do at this point in time does that help
SPEAKER_09
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I was just trying to get some sense of whether they had actually taken a formal position.
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And of course, all this does is give the ability to do something that may or may not ever happen.
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But I was trying to get as much information as I can about what some of those folks were thinking.
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And I guess it's suffice to say that any time anybody is going to change something, there are lots of questions that get asked.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
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That's right.
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Council and Board did send the CVB Board a letter two weeks ago asking them to respond by the end of this week about their agreement to go forward with this.
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So I do hope that they will comply with that request.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
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But I think the sense from our Board as well as City Council is that what we're really asking for is elected officials to have a
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seat at the table I guess I would say.
SPEAKER_09
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So they should be getting back to us and certainly I can't imagine if they request a meeting to clarify.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
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I'm sure we'll do that.
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We'd be happy to do that.
SPEAKER_10
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Does that help?
SPEAKER_07
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When we have a bill, we always say, what's the problem we're trying to address?
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How does this fix it?
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And what are the unintended consequences?
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That's the three part.
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Right.
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I'm getting that feeling.
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I get sometimes that there's some subtext that is very important to some people.
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And I'm listening as carefully as I can.
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I just pulled up the article.
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People feel real strongly about something.
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What's going on?
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Is there some issue that the money's not being spent the way you want?
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This obviously matters enough to you to make it one of your four priorities and it matters enough for multiple board members to say this feels wrong to us and I don't, I'm missing the...
SPEAKER_09
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It matters enough that you want state enabling legislation requires a lot of heft on our part to get through so it must be significant enough
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and there's got to be a reason why.
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So, I think that's what you're asking.
SPEAKER_07
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Yeah, I'm sorry.
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David may understand it better than I do and just express it better than I did.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
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Ann, do you want to take that or do you want me to?
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I'm happy to.
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It's whatever you want to do.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
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I think whenever the county is investing $800,000 of money raised here that we elected officials are responsible for that even though we right now can't do anything about it or even be involved in the decisions which are made, the evaluations that are made.
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We've tried very hard to make some changes in the structure in the last four years, five years ago, which have not really been successful.
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Having electeds at the table, the funders is the description that I think is the most important.
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Having the funders at the table is really important.
SPEAKER_07
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Are the members of the supervisors already on the board, it's just they don't have a controlling role?
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
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No, we have no representation at all.
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So the advisory, the committee right now is made up of a large group of folks that represent the business community, the hotel industry, but we are not at the table at all.
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There's a county staff person, one of 11, so we have not been able to achieve the things that we need.
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But we don't have any representation at all as the elected officials.
SPEAKER_07
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okay so does this the paper said that you're trying to transform it into an advisory role meaning they give advice and then you all make the decision this would seem to allow you to be at the table but not in other words are you trying to get at the table so you can be part of the discussion or do you want to have the veto authority over what they do or?
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
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I don't think that we have the details worked out as far as how the exact changes would be foreseen but
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My original thought was we wouldn't be meddling in the everyday, but would have the opportunity for oversight for policy decisions as an executive committee.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:22:48
I think the letter explained that there would be an executive committee that would be made up of the county executive, the city manager, the representative from both of the economic development groups from the city and the county.
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Representative from the elected bodies, both of the elected bodies, a representative from the chamber, that would be the, there's an executive committee and then the current committee, the management team right now would become an advisory board.
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So their decisions would be flowing up, but certainly not perhaps every decision.
SPEAKER_06
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So in essence, what we have now to answer both of your questions, and I think they're very good questions, we have an anomaly.
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If we were to look at all of the bodies that city council and members of the board participate in, where there is taxpayers' money directed to those boards,
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there is not another one that I'm aware of where there is not a member of council or a member of the board that sits on the decision-making body that ensures some degree of oversight of taxpayers' funds.
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And so we're just, I think the effort here is to try to make this convention bureau and visitor bureau
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operate on a parallel track with other such bodies that the county and the city share together.
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There's no power grab here.
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There's no statement about a failure to manage properly.
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There's no aspersions cast on the existing board.
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It's just an effort to try to bring it in harmony and make it consistent with the other boards and commissions that are out there.
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If I might follow up, because I think there are probably people around this table who might be in the room who don't remember how this thing happened.
SPEAKER_09
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And I can't believe that I was, it's been I think 15 years since I've been on the council, I think this got created after I left the council.
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14 years ago.
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Okay.
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Well, you guys can all refresh my recollection, but if I'm not mistaken, this was created as part of an
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There was a sales tax referendum, I think, right?
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And the Chamber was involved in creating this thing, and the City Council was involved, and there was an agreement that various people would put money into the pot, and the theory would be that the private sector would help figure out how that money was to be spent.
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I think partly to keep the politicians out of it.
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Now, I don't remember for sure, there are people in this room who might remember better than I, and I don't have a dog in this house.
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I just want to understand the dynamic of it all.
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I get what Rick is saying.
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I think the library board operates sort of like this.
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I don't think there are elected officials on there.
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And there may be other boards too.
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But the principle is the same.
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There's public dollars.
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They're being allocated through a board.
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And the board is allocating the money independent of what you all do.
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I mean, you can always cut the money.
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But I think part of the tourism fund is through a dedicated source.
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and that's through that little bit extra in the sales tax.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
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The agreement is the transient occupancy tax is 100% right.
SPEAKER_10
00:26:35
Yes, that's right.
SPEAKER_09
00:26:36
That's what it was.
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Right.
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So, I guess part of what has to be sorted out here, and this is independent of whether the enabling legislation is passed, but locally it would seem to me that the private sector has to be somewhat involved in
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trying to figure this out because they were at the table at the time it was put together and for some reason was set up the way it was.
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So I don't know the answer to the question.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:27:04
As I remember, it was the city manager, county executive, and chamber president, Jane.
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Those were the three decision makers who made it happen at the beginning.
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Made it happen.
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And that was the funders had the majority of the control.
00:27:17
Yeah, the funders.
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Yeah.
SPEAKER_09
00:27:19
I don't know if anyone has other information that can help us understand.
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Ultimately, it seems to me, it has to be made at the local level.
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You guys have to figure it out.
SPEAKER_07
00:27:29
Is all the money coming from the dedicated revenue stream, or are you also putting in general fund dollars?
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:27:36
As far as I know, it's transient occupancy tax money.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:27:38
POT money is my understanding.
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And nothing else?
SPEAKER_07
00:27:42
Well, then, I mean, the reason it was set up this way was the funders are not the county.
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The funders are the people who pay the transient occupancy tax.
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And they said, we don't mind this tax so long as we have more control over how it gets spent.
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This is not taking money from schools or cops.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:27:58
This is visitor's funds.
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It is not the hotelier's money.
00:28:04
It is the visitor's funds that they collect and pay to the state.
00:28:09
So that's a little bit different in my perspective.
00:28:11
But if we did not have a joint city-county board, many counties have their own staff.
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Nelson County has its own staff who does their tourism for them.
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If the alternative is that we don't have a joint effort, then that's an alternative we can certainly look at.
00:28:30
Steve, you had a question?
SPEAKER_01
00:28:32
And Greg might be able to answer this.
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One, and I think Rick addressed this, but you have other boards or commissions that you set up in similar fashions, so that question was answered.
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Secondarily, I guess, is for other tourism-related boards or commissions that are set up like this in local government,
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Are you all asking for something that others haven't had the authority to do because that's going to be the question that the county cities and towns or local government committees are going to ask.
SPEAKER_05
00:29:06
We will look at that.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:29:08
I don't think this is an unusual model, though, to have elected officials on this type of a tourism board.
SPEAKER_01
00:29:18
Well, I don't necessarily think it is, but I'm just trying to anticipate the questions that you might ask.
SPEAKER_04
00:29:25
It's a very familiar model in North Carolina and I know your specific question is Virginia.
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Virginia and I think Greg and our staff can quickly grab that information.
SPEAKER_05
00:29:41
The other thing I would add is that this legislation would not do away necessarily with the representation from the hotel and the business industry.
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It allows elected officials, one from each locality, to sit on a decision-making body that is related to this
SPEAKER_01
00:30:03
Well, let me ask this, the change would be, it would, make sure we can hear you because I'm having trouble, there you go, thank you Steve.
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Maybe I'll just hold it, I think that's easier.
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It would give the local government elected officials more of a
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I guess for lack of a better term, a veto authority over whether and what recommendations that come from the advisory board, I guess.
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Is that what it would allow?
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Which would be a departure from what has now occurred, I assume.
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And I'm new to this whole issue, so I'm trying to learn as I listen.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:30:46
For me it was to give better information sharing and I would have a better sense of where the money was going and what was actually happening.
00:30:54
Now having said that, sure I guess it would give veto.
00:30:58
Depending on the size of the- Depending on how we set it up.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:31:01
If there are two elected officials out of seven with economic development, tourism staff, county manager, city manager, county executive,
00:31:10
University, the two votes are hardly going to veto, but it would give us the ability to at least be a part of the conversation.
SPEAKER_01
00:31:18
Madam Chairman and Ann, I would just say that those other folks work for you all.
00:31:24
In other words, they're not independent of the fact that they actually do work for the board or the city council or whatever.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:31:35
We would certainly rely on them to look us in the eye and say there's something you're not seeing here.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:31:40
but it would certainly give us the ability to have discussions around more information perhaps.
00:31:49
Any other questions?
00:32:01
Greg, is that it or do you have?
SPEAKER_05
00:32:03
That is it, so it is now open for a broader, well, I think.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:32:06
So we can go back to these now.
SPEAKER_05
00:32:07
David's presentation and a broader discussion of any of the issues.
Thomas Jefferson Planning District Legislative Program.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:32:18
All right.
SPEAKER_10
00:32:20
I'll be very brief with an overview of the priorities of the Regional Legislative Program.
00:32:28
The top three priorities we have in the program for 2018 are the same request, the same ask that we had the last several years of personally dealing with the state budget and funding obligations.
00:32:41
We're asking the state to enhance state aid to localities, don't impose mandates, don't shift costs for state programs to localities.
00:32:49
Second priority, public education funding.
00:32:52
This year in the development of the two-year budget will be the re-benchmarking of K-12 education costs.
00:32:57
We've been looking to really kind of narrow that gap between what's actually going on in our school divisions and what localities are doing above and beyond the state standards.
00:33:09
So that's our request in that area, that we have the state slip more money.
00:33:17
The third is the priority that we've had for a number of years on local revenue authority and just asking the state to give us more revenue options.
00:33:26
I would point out we do have one new position statement in this priority that deals with the communications, sales, and use tax, which was implemented about 10 years ago.
00:33:36
It was really a consolidation of various communications taxes at the time into one broader tax.
00:33:43
It now, ten years later, does not cover a number of telecommunications mediums that we now have.
00:33:53
For example, prepaid phone cards, streaming services.
00:33:56
They are not captured by that tax because we didn't have them ten years ago.
00:34:03
So the request that we have, and this request is largely in line with positions that have been taken by both VML and BACO, would be to, number one, broaden that tax to have it cover additional, I guess, mediums and things that are
00:34:20
Secondly, the tax is at 5%.
00:34:24
It is a sales tax.
00:34:27
It did not move to 5.3% a couple of years ago when the General Assembly had previously approved the legislation that moved the sales tax to 5.3%.
00:34:38
So the two asks there are to broaden it and to move it to 5.3%.
00:34:43
Here at TJPDC we can go a step further and ask that additional revenue that would be generated by the bump from 5 to 5.3, which is estimated to be about $24 million, that that would be put toward expanding broadband.
00:34:59
which is our next priority.
00:35:01
We've really made a concerted effort to focus on broadband.
00:35:04
It'll be the subject of our legislative forum and really trying to reach more unserved and underserved areas with broadband and asking the state to be supportive financially and in other ways and be partners with localities, be partners with promoting public-private ventures to help us move that ball down the road.
00:35:28
The Children's Services Act is another priority.
00:35:32
Some changes to that position from what we had last year to emphasize and react to I guess a concern with a proposal we had this past General Assembly session.
00:35:43
that we felt would have limited CSA dollars that are going to services for kids.
00:35:51
And specifically, the proposal would have shifted to the Department of Education CSA dollars for special education.
00:36:01
And our fear, our concern was that once they're at the Department of Education that they would then be distributed
00:36:07
on a per-pupil basis rather than current mechanism by which the funding is some sufficient to cover the cost of the needed services.
00:36:17
And I know after a number of years of the CSA costs really at the state and local level declining, last several years they've been going back up and a lot of it has been driven by increasing numbers of students having been identified with autism and day placements that they are receiving services in.
00:36:36
So we're really looking for not limiting those dollars but also some flexibility in being able to use CSA dollars for providing those services in our school setting rather than them solely having to be provided outside of school and in those private day places.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:36:57
And then our final regional priority, perennial priority on land use and growth management
SPEAKER_10
00:37:02
Don't take away our existing authorities and give us more tools.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:37:11
It's pretty simple.
SPEAKER_05
00:37:17
Can I ask about the broadband issue and the taxing?
SPEAKER_09
00:37:22
You said 24 million statewide?
SPEAKER_10
00:37:26
Yes.
00:37:28
That would be what I've seen is the estimate for the bump from 5 to 5.3.
00:37:33
Not really taking into consideration expanding the number of things that it would cover.
SPEAKER_09
00:37:41
In theory, that would go into a pot to help provide some incentives for either localities or the private sector.
SPEAKER_10
00:37:48
Yeah, if you would go that step to say, hey, we're going to take this additional money dedicated to book.
SPEAKER_09
00:37:55
And follow up question, how do you tax streaming?
SPEAKER_10
00:37:59
That is a good question.
00:38:01
I do not know.
00:38:03
I don't know where the tax would lie.
SPEAKER_09
00:38:14
We certainly don't want to tax people or watching boards of supervisors streaming.
00:38:18
That's a public benefit.
00:38:23
On the other hand we do want them taxing
00:38:29
Streaming for City Council, because if that's the case, we'll be rich.
00:38:35
Lots of people watching City Council.
SPEAKER_10
00:38:38
They all want to watch that.
00:38:41
Paint drying.
SPEAKER_09
00:38:42
I'd be interested to know how that gets defined.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:38:48
I assume in some states the providers of the streaming services are
SPEAKER_10
00:38:57
Right now the Providers of Service are there, they're collecting the tax that's remitted to the state and then the tax is then sent back to the localities through a formula.
00:39:14
The provider of the service can levy that tax on the streaming service.
00:39:18
It would follow the same path to the state and then back.
00:39:21
That has been a declining source of revenue.
00:39:23
Again, I think because you've seen a drop in the number of landlines, which was probably 10 years ago, was the main driver.
00:39:31
But if that's continued to drop those numbers, then the money coming back to localities has dropped as well.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:39:37
And even more frustrating is the phone books have gotten smaller and smaller.
00:39:41
Now you can't find anybody.
SPEAKER_06
00:39:45
Could I also add on what David presented on broadband if you members look at page three the second item on the left on broadband there are two numbered points there and asking you to support legislation that would number one ensure the coverage maps used to determine underserved and unserved areas or census blocks are accurate they're not known for their accuracy and
00:40:12
The second point is an ongoing concern, amend the definition of coverage to mean that service actually exists in a census block or area and the service availability within that census block or area is substantial.
00:40:27
The way the law is written currently, an ISP can have a single household in a census block and claim that it's providing coverage to the entire census block, but it's only one household.
00:40:40
and that really does create problems as we've established our Albemarle broadband authority and we're looking at census blocks where it looks like there's coverage.
00:40:53
In actuality, the number of households may be on one single hand.
00:40:58
so getting a statement in there where coverage means substantial or it means a significant proportion some language legally that will have to demonstrate that from the standpoint of the ISP that they provided a meaningful segment of that census block in the service there that would be state
SPEAKER_01
00:41:30
Madam Chairman, with our two attorneys here, actually I guess three attorneys.
00:41:37
Getting them to agree on what's substantial is going to be interesting.
00:41:45
They already know.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:41:46
Hopefully it's lots more than a majority.
00:41:51
But if you want a specific example, the 456 exchange in Greenwood has a tiny corner.
00:41:58
It was an old, non-centile company that was purchased by Verizon.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:42:04
Verizon says they're covered
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:42:06
and they get $130 a month wireless broadband that doesn't work when the rain falls and the wind blows.
00:42:14
But they're still claiming that whole district as having coverage when they don't provide it, of any sort in most of it.
Liz Palmer
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:42:24
It's also interesting that we have, and I just opened a letter from Delicate Bell actually coming from someone who wrote him about some property they wanted to sell tower down in southern Albemarle on Schuyler.
00:42:48
and this is, we have several people who as, two things I'd like to say, as CenturyLink took the FCC money, I'm sure you all know that they took six years of money from the FCC, $900,000 a year for six years and it's great but we have people
00:43:12
that where the service goes right up to the edge of their property and then the next house over, they don't get anything.
00:43:22
With respect to the Verizon area, they decided not to even take the FCC money.
00:43:27
So those folks have not gotten any upgrades in those 540 areas.
00:43:34
So it's been a really, really problematic, this whole issue as the county,
00:43:39
tries to put county money and what we've been doing is we've been going matching funds with CenturyLink.
00:43:48
CenturyLink comes in and says, okay, we can make it happen if we have another couple hundred thousand dollars to make it viable from a business standpoint to get to this one little clump of 40 houses or something like that.
00:44:05
And so what we're doing is we're applying to state grants and matching that money to try to get these little groups of houses here and there.
00:44:15
But it's really a ridiculous patchwork that we're facing.
00:44:20
And the more people stream,
00:44:23
the more problems that we have.
00:44:28
So it's this whole idea of what coverage is has been really problematic in the maps also.
00:44:38
So anyway.
SPEAKER_07
00:44:43
Talked about putting towers on some school property.
00:44:45
Is that helping, irrelevant to this?
00:44:48
What's the, does that affect this at all?
Liz Palmer
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:44:51
Well, we don't want to confuse cell towers for cell phones with internet access and the fixed wireless.
SPEAKER_07
00:45:01
This is a completely independent fixed wireless, wire in the ground question.
SPEAKER_10
00:45:05
Yeah, okay.
Liz Palmer
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:45:06
Right, yeah.
00:45:07
But yes, we have been doing that.
00:45:11
The companies are co-locating.
00:45:14
We're allowing co-location wherever we can get it.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:45:18
We are trying.
00:45:19
And the schools, of course, are trying to do their internet for their students.
SPEAKER_01
00:45:26
Madam Chair, one of the things about, following up on Rob's ask about what the schools are doing with towers, my understanding is some of the broadband capability takes different forms.
00:45:39
It's the hard-wiring
00:45:41
it's satellite connection now but then they're also doing some things related to existing cell towers and sending signals out that way so at least from the state standpoint they're looking at all those things because you know in many rural parts of the state the only way to provide it that we're never going to have
00:46:04
Now Albemarle's in a little bit better shape, but we're never going to have the hard wire capability, at least with fiber optic and that.
00:46:12
It's just, it's not even anywhere close.
00:46:14
So they're looking at, what's the other one?
00:46:17
It's white something, white space, yeah.
00:46:21
And I don't understand that, but that's another whole aspect.
00:46:26
So hopefully you all are looking or would consider any of those things as they're moving forward.
00:46:33
The solution may be a combination, it may not just be one thing.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:46:36
And we're definitely doing that.
Liz Palmer
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:46:42
Our IT department is very involved in trying to pursue any private company
00:46:49
who would like to work with us and apply for grants and get matching money.
00:46:53
So we're making a strong effort on these lines.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:46:56
But it's going to take a multi-pronged approach.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:46:59
No doubt about that.
00:47:00
I'm excited to hear you mention satellite because people in the national radio industry are saying, what's the matter with these localities fighting about what's on the ground?
00:47:09
Go to satellites and get it done.
00:47:12
and of course I don't think it's Albemarle County's possibility to have a satellite but maybe Virginia could have one and that would help us all out or two or three I don't know it'd be a way to reach people there you go the mountain hollows wouldn't matter in that rate any other questions about David's presentation we're good as far as
SPEAKER_06
00:47:35
We're gonna get them out of here early.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:47:37
Well, we're trying to get you out of here early.
Legislative Priorities/ Questions & Answers.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:47:39
So given our two, our own local as well as what David is presenting from us, what do we need to do to provide you all more information?
00:47:56
What are your reactions to what we're presenting specifically?
00:48:05
What can we do to help with these?
SPEAKER_00
00:48:07
Madam Chair, if I could, a couple things.
00:48:10
One, I wasn't aware you guys have actual impact fees in Albemarle County.
00:48:14
I don't know why, but you do have them.
00:48:15
Is that correct?
00:48:17
No, you want impact fees?
00:48:19
You want to get rid of proffers?
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:48:20
Is that the... Proffers are pretty much...
SPEAKER_00
00:48:24
Well on that topic I was just gonna let you know I'm carrying an amendment to fix the proper bill to make it more amenable But there is going to be some movement with regard to this issue of impact fees because impact fees are quite clearly more transparent so
00:48:43
I don't know what the weight of the assembly will be on this stuff, but I've already got a bill filed to try to correct that and I can send Jeff that language once I get it out of drafting.
00:48:54
I think it'll help.
00:48:56
I've met with so many different localities throughout the state on this issue alone.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:49:02
That would be great to see what you have.
SPEAKER_00
00:49:04
I don't think you're going to see any movement to have devolution of roads down to localities.
00:49:10
I don't think that's even on the radar.
00:49:14
I have a question about the body worn cameras and I can take that offline probably after the report's issued on Friday as well as the loaded gun weapons that's addressed in the report as well I just can't get into specifics on some of that stuff I was on the task force so I just I just wanted to make those comments
00:49:37
I think we've tried the June primary elections before because everybody brought up the issue of having kids in school and doing all that stuff.
00:49:44
I think it might make it through.
00:49:45
I can't remember all the arguments for that over the last couple years, but that's probably got a good chance of getting through this year, and the rest of it I just couldn't tell you.
00:49:56
As you all know, it's going to be a new dynamic down the General Assembly this year, but I just wanted to give you my comments.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:50:03
That's great, but that's very helpful.
00:50:11
Steve, any thoughts or questions?
SPEAKER_01
00:50:15
David had already spoken to me about the snow and ice removal, and so we're at least going to put that draft request in for that, because I always want to try to do our part.
00:50:26
As Bryce said, some of these, at least with the public safety issues, I think many of us are looking to what the task force, the governor's task force recommendations
00:50:36
I think, and I don't know how David feels, but I think a lot of us would like to see kind of a comprehensive and bipartisan support for some of those initiatives.
00:50:49
And I think other than Charlottesville and Albemarle, I think other localities are also interested because if it can happen in Charlottesville, it can happen literally anywhere.
00:51:01
And I think the task force has looked at it
00:51:04
So we'll look for that.
00:51:11
Related to I just want to Talk a little bit about funding because David talked about that and that you know now from locality standpoint always comes down to funding You know the the challenge we're gonna have And we just came from the Appropriations Committee retreat and the Senate Finance Committee had their treat actually at the board's head So they were here and in Albemarle County spending taxpayer dollars to
00:51:36
into the economy locally, which was good.
00:51:40
And the houses had meetings here, too.
00:51:42
But the challenge we're going to have is when you look at re-benchmarking, you look at the Medicaid additional dollars with our current program, we're about $220 million in the hole.
00:51:57
based on what we think are fairly accurate revenue estimates.
00:52:00
So we still have some challenges.
00:52:04
So I just point that out as we've got to figure out how to meet that and any other obligations.
00:52:10
But I think K through 12 funding, and I know that's a big ticket item for any locality, is still a priority for folks and we want to try to work on that.
00:52:20
The other thing, and I know we've talked to the school board and Dr. Moran,
00:52:25
you know we're still looking with whether it's SOQs or the SOAs flexibility for localities because Albemarle may not be exactly the same and Diantha you know this having been on the school board the exact same you know positions for
00:52:42
for every school.
00:52:43
So we're trying to figure out a way to have these goals and standards, but at the same time provide flexibility.
00:52:49
And we've started that process and we want to continue that.
00:52:52
I think that helps you all too, because then you all can kind of work with the local school board and determine, okay, what positions do we really want that are more important than maybe some other positions based on the needs?
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:53:03
Yeah, Steve, that would help a lot, because you're right, very different places throughout the state.
00:53:07
But the flexibility would be wonderful.
SPEAKER_01
00:53:09
So I hope that will be the direction that we go with that.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:53:15
The nice thing is the four requests we have locally don't cost money.
SPEAKER_01
00:53:19
That's always good.
00:53:21
And I didn't hear any other volunteers at this point, but I'd be glad to work with the delegation on some of these others if we can do that.
00:53:32
I'm going to let David and Rob take care of the regional board to promote tourism.
00:53:41
they have much more background about that but the on-street parking issue you know Greg one of the things would be helpful is to get I will tell you I'm having come off a campaign and I know Diantha and Liz probably you found this too you learn a lot by walking neighborhoods and you know the one thing that really impressed upon me is a lot of the loca a lot of your development
00:54:07
where they're wonderful developments but the developers really didn't anticipate public safety when they made those, you know, and developed the roadways and everything and I rode along with the Albemarle County Police Department too this fall, early summer, late summer, early fall
00:54:29
and that was the other thing they pointed out is their access for public safety officials whether it's you know just a police cruiser or more importantly a fire truck or fire and rescue you know folks coming in so be glad to try to look at that as well.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:54:45
That would be great I would really appreciate this some of representing some of those areas as old urban ring neighborhoods I would have really appreciate that Steve.
SPEAKER_01
00:54:56
So let me at least commit to putting in the request for that and actually they kind of go hand-in-hand with the snow and ice removal and on-street parking and it's an urban ring issue.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:55:08
It is.
00:55:08
And an urbanizing.
00:55:10
Yeah.
00:55:12
That's great.
00:55:13
Thank you very much.
00:55:15
And then we'll speak with David and of course David and I've had to leave but we'll get with them on the
00:55:22
the CACV issues.
00:55:25
And we'll be hopefully hearing back from them this week as well.
00:55:28
So.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:55:29
And hopefully after Friday there will be more consensus on the weaponry changes.
00:55:35
It was interesting in the sort of out in the discussion, I remember Secretary Moran being quoted on the radio saying well why didn't communities set up better rules for their events?
00:55:45
But this makes it sound as if we didn't even have the ability to have rules to say you couldn't bring
SPEAKER_01
00:55:50
The challenge I think we've all been dealing with after the situation in Charlottesville is
00:56:09
It's really tough to balance public safety and free assembly and making sure that people can freely assemble to whether it's a protest or support or whatever but at the same time making sure that it's done in a safe way or that there's some control from a public safety standpoint especially local law enforcement.
00:56:30
and so it's I know the task force has been looking at that and considering that and I I had a chance to participate on a conference call with the governor and others and just as they started that process and talking about that so so madam chair if I can without violating the terms to which I had to serve on that task force
SPEAKER_00
00:56:51
We had to sign a confidentiality agreement so until it's released I can't give you a whole lot but I will tell you it will be a guiding document for localities should they choose to implement some parts or all of what we put out and we tried to keep in mind it's at a 30,000 foot view not just specific to Albemarle County but the things and lessons learned from Albemarle County can be applied throughout any jurisdiction with those.
00:57:18
There are some localities in the Commonwealth that do it phenomenally well
00:57:21
So we took best practices from some of those localities, tried to apply them in this document.
00:57:26
And I think it's pretty thorough.
00:57:29
And there's, of course, always going to be things that we overlooked.
00:57:32
But again, I'll reiterate what Steve said.
00:57:35
I'm not an attorney, but we had a constitutional attorney that came from Harvard, talked about the First Amendment, freedom of assembly, all those sort of things.
00:57:41
And there's a very fine line there.
00:57:43
But I think we've addressed that as best we can with what will come out.
00:57:48
So that's about all I can say about it.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:57:50
I always thought freedom of speech was saying something, not beating up on somebody.
00:57:54
So that's sort of my recess monitor for years and years and years.
00:57:58
You don't let people start bleeding before you start, you know, you stop things and that kind of stuff.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:58:02
So safe places are really important to be able to have any kind of conflict.
00:58:07
So we'll be looking for that to come out.
00:58:09
Senator Reeves, could you just, I'm really interested in your, what you mentioned about the impact fees.
00:58:15
Could you just broaden what you mentioned?
00:58:18
You said that there was some consideration at least.
SPEAKER_00
00:58:22
So some localities have tried impact fees in the past.
00:58:26
They've failed.
00:58:27
Some have worked.
00:58:30
This wasn't my bill to begin with.
00:58:32
I think it was Senator Oben's change bill.
00:58:34
But for some reason, it stuck to me.
00:58:37
So I've had to take this nexus on, which is something I didn't really want to have to do.
00:58:45
Typically in the General Assembly, it's one or two bad localities or players that cause us to have to put in legislation.
00:58:51
I mean, that's the crux of the thing.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
00:58:54
Always a story.
SPEAKER_00
00:58:55
There is.
00:58:56
You know, there's a certain locality on 95, if you go through there five miles over the speed limit, you're getting a ticket.
00:59:01
And we did some stuff with that, if you remember, Steve.
00:59:03
So I think with the changes in language that I have for the amendment for proffers that allow local governments to get back to the business of approving rezonings and that sort of things and allow
00:59:22
constituents or petitioners to come before their boards and have civil discussion without worrying about lawsuits and liability.
00:59:30
Because that's the big thing that happened with county attorneys and boards of supervisors were I can't talk to this guy because they could think that
00:59:36
You know I'm bending them over and I'm going to get abused by it and so that wasn't the intent of the original legislation so we're going to fix that till something else comes in place but there has been talk of impact fees so I don't know where that is I'm not carrying anything with impact fees I'm trying to fix what's broken right now before I start looking at anything else I know there might be a study for impact fees to see if they'll actually work universally across but every locality is different
01:00:03
Albemarle's different in Fairfax.
01:00:05
They have a whole different set of animals that they have to contend with up there.
01:00:09
And where they're located, to the Chesapeake Bay and run off and all the other stuff.
01:00:13
But we'll fix the proffers this year, I think.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:00:16
Okay, thank you for that information.
01:00:18
That's great.
01:00:22
Liz.
Liz Palmer
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:00:24
And I think you said that you were going to send the language to Jeff this year?
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:00:28
Yeah.
01:00:28
I want to take it back.
Liz Palmer
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:00:30
Yeah.
01:00:30
Okay, thank you.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:00:30
He's still working on the language, I think, yeah.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:00:34
I had heard that Stafford had at least worked on an ordinance for the impact fees but nobody's I think been willing or taken it through the court to make sure it's going to stand up so that's why we're sort of didn't want to be the guinea pig on that we were waiting for somebody else to jump in first but I'm glad to know that if you there are several that are already doing this and I would certainly like to find out
SPEAKER_05
01:00:56
Stafford is probably the one locality that has adopted impact fees, but under the state law it's only transportation impact.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:01:09
which we did get the ability here to do in Albemarle, rural, urban, everything else, but I don't know what has held us up from this.
SPEAKER_05
01:01:17
At the time when the former proffer law was in place, that was a better plan.
01:01:21
I think the feeling was that the proffer enabling authority was handling that issue better than the impact fee enabling authority.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:01:33
So I just have one more question, I think, because it looks like we're pretty close to wrapping up here, which is we're actually early.
01:01:41
But Greg, do you have a sense of everything you need as far as communication around these bills, especially the four from Albemarle County?
SPEAKER_05
01:01:49
I think I do, and we'll certainly reach out if we realize that we
SPEAKER_10
01:01:55
The legislators are very busy this week because on Monday they have a deadline to get their drafting, bill drafting request in to legislative services for those bills that they want to pre-file.
01:02:16
and I have them count against the maximum number of bills of interest in place.
01:02:20
So, as Steve mentioned, we're making the drafting request for the parking and ice removal.
01:02:28
We've had some conversations with a couple of the other offices, legislative offices that represent you all to make sure that at least the drafting requests are going in by Monday.
01:02:37
That gives us more time if we don't have to actually be introduced by the first day.
SPEAKER_01
01:02:45
And Madam Chair, to that point, Greg, can you send us just information, just email us so we can get that request in, at least for those two, just so we can get the draft request in for those.
01:02:57
That'd be helpful.
SPEAKER_05
01:02:58
What particular type of information?
SPEAKER_01
01:03:00
Just a little bit of a summary of background.
01:03:05
And it's pretty easy because we're just adding locality.
01:03:10
To existing.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:03:11
Those two, that's all we're asking.
Liz Palmer
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:03:13
That's great.
01:03:15
Can I ask a real quick question?
01:03:17
I think maybe quick.
01:03:18
Since we have two representatives left, can you tell us what your priorities are this year?
01:03:25
Or do you have any that you're specifically very interested in?
01:03:29
Great question.
SPEAKER_00
01:03:33
So I'm already up to about 32 bills without even finishing all my stuff so I have a lot on my plate and I'll preface this with I'm a chairman of social services and rehabilitation so I've got a lot of work to do there specific to those 88 programs within Virginia
01:03:52
My main emphasis this session will be the heroin epidemic and some of the things that I'm trying to get past to help address that.
01:04:02
I think I've got about 15 issues with veterans and veteran services going all the way from veterans docket to some of the other things with regard to our veterans.
01:04:12
I can't remember the rest to be honest with you because there's so many in drafting that we still have to get back, but that's our focus.
Liz Palmer
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:04:19
The veterans docket is, could you just, just a word
SPEAKER_00
01:04:23
So two years ago I tried to get a veteran's court set up so we can get the services directly to the vets that are going through the system.
01:04:33
They never made it out of courts in the house side so they didn't want to set up another courts per se.
01:04:39
So we worked through the Supreme Court justices to come up with some guidance from the Supreme Court.
01:04:48
So now we have an actual docket that circuit court judges can set themselves up in localities with some guidance to run a docket that's made up of veterans who have committed crimes so we can link those services that they're not getting to those veterans.
Liz Palmer
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:05:03
Great, thank you.
01:05:04
I think the special dockets, all these special dockets are really very interesting in getting people services that they need.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:05:12
Is the mental health docket already up and running?
01:05:16
Or is it something that's still in the legislation?
Liz Palmer
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:05:19
My understanding, and maybe one of our representatives can talk to this, but it has not been approved yet.
01:05:26
But we're hoping that it will be.
01:05:28
And we are going to hear, I think in January, Diantha would know about this better because it's on our agenda.
01:05:35
but I think in January we're going to hear from a local person who is pushing this so that's my understanding.
SPEAKER_00
01:05:47
Yeah, we're having a discussion about that.
01:05:49
I don't know if Cree might know something, I don't know, but the Supreme Court gives most of the guidance for any of those specific dockets, and it's up to those individual judges to decide if they want to do that.
01:06:00
And there's some federal grants that are out there.
01:06:02
A friend of mine who I actually coach lacrosse with is a circuit court judge in Spotsylvania, former Marine.
01:06:08
He set up
01:06:09
the only one that I know of in existence, a veteran's docket already and he's running through that so we're using that as a to gauge the metrics of the effectiveness of it right now so once Judge Regal gets about a year and a half under so we got enough cases to show the effectiveness of it they're doing it well in Norfolk they're doing it great in Fairfax there's a couple judges that are doing that so as these things come about I think you'll see more guidance from the Supreme Court on that rather than set up mandated by the General Assembly
01:06:37
There's also this thing that happens in the General Assembly where we don't want to step on the judicial branch or the executive branch.
01:06:44
We just want to stay in our silo of the legislative branch and vice versa.
01:06:47
So we're trying not to step on their toes as well.
01:06:50
So I think it's working well so far.
SPEAKER_01
01:06:53
Before I mention priorities, to follow up on the different dockets, I think one of the concerns the General Assembly has been is that the Supreme Court and the court's management, if you will, has not been as involved in some of those.
01:07:07
They've been legislative initiatives.
01:07:10
and then the problem is some areas of the state have them others don't and there needs to be a better coordination maybe at least looking at things regionally so that you know every part of the state has the option of having some of these drug courts for one example so
01:07:27
so the Supreme Court I think has finally started getting and engaging more and then also thinking about okay what are the additional costs because there's you know there's always a cost associated it needs to be part of their budget not just some you know separate you know thing and grants coming from the federal government are great as long as they're going to be there sustainable if they're not then they have to you know kind of plan if you're going to continue that DACA that special you know court how is that going to be funded so that's been one of the issues
01:07:54
My priorities, as they have been over the last six years, one, continue looking for areas to help with economic development.
01:08:05
I've been working with the Department of Small Business and Supplier Diversity and trying to tweak those small business grant programs and making sure they're being as effective and efficient as possible.
01:08:16
We're still working on that.
01:08:19
There's been some discussion about
01:08:21
how the Virginia Economic Development Partnership and the Department of Small Business and Supplier Diversity, how they work together.
01:08:30
So we're looking at that as well to see if there's some way to really promote that.
01:08:34
As you've noticed probably with a lot of the Governor's announcements, whether it's Perron Robotics, you know, in Crozet or others,
01:08:41
A lot of these announcements are dealing with small businesses, which is great.
01:08:47
I think small businesses are where really future growth is.
01:08:52
But the problem is a lot of our economic development efforts in the past have been geared towards the big elephants, looking for the big corporations and that kind of thing.
01:09:01
So we've got to look at that and how to be more effective.
01:09:03
also working on some education issues.
01:09:07
I've already introduced House Bill 3 which would set up a standard for dual enrollment for our high school students so that UVA Tech or JMU or whoever in state would take that credit and provide the same assignment for that credit once the students completed that dual enrollment class.
01:09:29
There's going to be some pushback from our institutions of higher learning because they want to determine what the credit worth is, but we need to have a standard.
01:09:39
If we're going to continue to move with the high school redesign and the like, that's something we're going to have to make sure that is more seamless and more assured that if you take the class
01:09:51
no matter what college or university you apply to it's going to give you the same credit hours.
01:09:56
So we're working on that.
01:09:58
One of the things working with Dr. Moran on and actually there was a conference here in Charlottesville hosted by the Curry School of Education at UVA was dealing with teacher shortage and in some parts of the state that's a real concern.
01:10:13
In fact earlier today I was
01:10:15
and touring schools, so that's one thing that I was talking to folks about.
01:10:20
Certain parts of the state it's not a problem, other parts of the state it's a real problem.
01:10:24
One of the things that Dr. Moran and I are working on is a piece of legislation to deal with recruiting instruction personnel for career in tech and trying to tweak that and there'll be some other things that I'm trying to work with the McAuliffe administration on before they leave on how to address that issue, both short term and long term.
01:10:44
The schools of education I think have come to the conclusion that a five-year program was great but it's not providing us in the pipeline teachers quickly enough so we've got to look at that and I think that's but that's going to take a little while to make a change.
01:11:05
So looking at that and then continue to look for issues surrounding health care reform, just trying to make the systems more efficient, cost effective, and at the same time, getting resources out to additional individuals for the health safety net, whether it's through Medicaid or other programs we've got.
01:11:24
I know CRE has been working on, there'll be a lot of recommendations related to behavioral health, mental health services.
01:11:30
but we need to have that coordinated with the physical health services we provide too and moving our system more towards a community-based system truly a community-based system where there's assurance by citizens that no matter where you are you're going to be able to get those services at the same level or at least anticipation they'd be at the same level so those are the things we're working on right now and apparently I'm going to have a couple more bills from county
01:11:59
So we'll work on that as well.
01:12:02
And I don't have 30, I'm trying to keep it down to 15 if I can.
01:12:09
But we always have more than we anticipate.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:12:17
Hopefully ours won't be too complicated.
01:12:18
No.
01:12:20
Tracy, since Cree couldn't make it today, did you have anything you wanted to add just since mental health has come up and I just want to make sure that
01:12:30
You don't have to, dear.
01:12:32
I just wanted to make sure.
01:12:42
We probably ought to hand you a mic if you're gonna, yeah.
01:12:46
Sorry.
01:12:47
Put you on the spot.
SPEAKER_08
01:12:50
I am not the member.
01:12:53
And we are very excited about the mental health docket that's going to come here locally.
01:13:02
But we haven't, anyway, we'll be following that.
01:13:06
He is planning on carrying
01:13:09
A couple of the county's bills.
01:13:10
I know he's got some bills coming from the city.
01:13:12
We've got a slew of drafts in related to what happened in August.
01:13:17
Obviously, we'll read that report, see how those ideas blend with what comes from that report.
01:13:25
And there was something else I wanted to mention.
01:13:28
Oh, and also,
01:13:31
Although I don't think there's much we can do at the state level about the premium issues that we're seeing here.
01:13:39
Senator Deeds did meet with folks from the Bureau of Insurance on Monday to try to see if there are some approaches we could take.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:13:48
Well that's good to hear because we certainly have some residents that are really struggling.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:13:55
Oh absolutely.
01:13:56
The thousands who can't even reach out to us.
01:13:59
There have been hundreds who have reached out to us and thousands more who can't.
01:14:02
So it's punishing what's going on.
SPEAKER_08
01:14:06
We are definitely going to have more than 15 bills.
SPEAKER_01
01:14:10
delegate that is did you still have redistricting on your list because I appreciate all the work you've done so far in past years and every year gets better and better so I've got some I've got some different ideas the and and actually I think it would help localities but so far I've not been able to figure out how to do it legislatively is you know part of the problem with the redistricting process is
01:14:34
the fact that you all work on redrawn precinct lines after we've drawn the congressional and the house and senate district lines which has precipitated more and more based on this you know one percent or or less you know deviation that
01:14:54
that the federal courts did like, they've kind of backed off of that so we could actually get back maybe to a more 5% deviation, which then allows you to do less splitting of precincts.
01:15:04
But the recount, the whole issue is the fact that we've had split precincts.
01:15:12
And we tried to fix that, but because of political reasons, that just didn't occur.
01:15:18
And so now we're in a bond with close elections.
01:15:24
So anyway, I was trying to come up with a methodology so that the census information could be shared with localities.
01:15:32
They could draw their precinct lines and then the legislature could do the larger districts based on where those precincts were off the new census data rather than the old census data.
01:15:44
The attorneys tell me that might not be possible, but I'm still looking for a way to see if there's some way legislatively to do that.
01:15:52
I think that would be a great reform.
01:15:54
And then I'm going to look at other things too.
01:15:56
One thing that's complicated the whole issue now is we have federal court cases, state court cases, and there seems to be a reluctance to move forward seriously until those get resolved, at least in some form or fashion.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:16:13
Are they going to be resolved by 2020?
01:16:16
Otherwise we're in another 10 years the way we are.
SPEAKER_01
01:16:19
I think the federal and the state court cases will be resolved this year.
01:16:24
One way or the other.
01:16:26
I mean, I don't know what the outcome obviously is, but I think most of the depositions, the actual cases where both sides have been heard, all that's occurred.
01:16:36
So now the
01:16:40
various judges and the like.
01:16:42
Now there can still be some appeals so that's why you've got to allow some additional time but I think at least the last person I've talked to that seems to know about these court cases more than I do is that at least there could be some outcome before the end of the year.
01:16:58
you know based on whether they're taking if there is appeal whether that's actual taken or not and then I think the Supreme Court in the United States has a couple cases that are gonna probably I mean once they once they determine you know no matter what it's it's gonna pretty much be you know done deal at that point.
SPEAKER_05
01:17:17
I think one of those has already been argued.
SPEAKER_01
01:17:24
So but that's complicated.
01:17:25
Legislatures doing anything at this point because I think everybody's kind of saying, well, we want to wait till the high-up attorneys kind of rule on this before we get into it much more.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:17:37
But your puzzle approach to the precincts taking our existing precincts and just making a boundary around a number of them to equalize the population, that at least would create sort of a more concentric
01:17:49
Exactly.
SPEAKER_01
01:17:50
And again, the problem with the process, and it's not because the legislature set it up this way, it's just always historically been that way, it became more of a problem
01:18:05
Once we had computerization, once you got census blocks in the Census Bureau, and you all were talking about that related to broadband, that has become much more scientific and actually you can literally, with mapping and everything,
01:18:20
you can find out where the one house is to make sure you've got X number of people or whatever so I mean businesses are utilizing that I mean Google Maps all those folks are utilizing it but the problem is we do the districts
01:18:36
then you all say okay well we've got extra population we've got too many people in this precinct now we've got and you all shifted and then we end up with split precincts now what has had occurred in the past is we've gone back and fixed that historically this is the first time that I can recall since I've served that we haven't actually gone back and fixed it which has caused problems and that's why we have the problem with the recounts now potentially okay well I guess with that if everybody is
Adjourn.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:19:05
Has had their questions answered and comments.
01:19:09
I'm going to move to adjourn us to December the sixth at one o'clock Lane Auditorium.
SPEAKER_06
01:19:19
Hi.
Ann Mallek
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:19:20
Yes.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:19:21
Yes.
SPEAKER_06
01:19:22
Yes.
Diantha McKeel
Supervisor, Board of Supervisors
01:19:24
Yes.
01:19:25
Thank you all so much for coming.
01:19:27
We appreciate it.