Board of Supervisors Regular Meeting   2/5/2025

First, appointments to various boards and commissions, including without limitation, the Fifth and Avon Community Advisory Committee, the Economic Development Authority, the Equalization Board, the Historic Preservation Committee, the Natural Heritage Committee, the Pan-Tops Community Advisory Committee, the Places 29 North Community Advisory Committee, and second, appointment of the county's Director of Facilities and Environmental Services.

We have a motion from Supervisor Pruitt, a second from Supervisor Infisto-Curtley, without objection, if the clerk will call the roll.

McKeel, Mr. Pruitt, Mr. Andrews.

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Welcome back to order.

First, before we start with any business, we'll ask Mr. Brute to bring us out of closed meeting.

That, to the best of each supervisor's knowledge, only public business matters lawfully exempted from the open meeting requirement of the Virginia Freedom of Information Act, and identified in the motion authorizing the closed meeting were heard, discussed, or considered in the closed meeting.

Without objection, the clerk will call the roll.

Mr. Galloway.

Yes.

Mr. Andrews.

And I believe we have a couple of motions coming out of our closed meeting.

Second.

motion from Supervisor McKeel, second from Supervisor Malek, without objection, the clerk will call the roll.

Mr. Galloway.

Yes.

Yes.

And the next motion are for our boards and commissions.

Second.

Motion from Supervisor McKeel, second from Supervisor Malik, without objection, if the court will call the roll.

Mr. Galloway.

Yes.

Mr. Andrews.

And welcome everyone.

Yes.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Boarder, first item, of course, is to adopt the final agenda.

Motion from Supervisor McKeel, second from Supervisor Malek, without objection, the clerk will call the roll.

Galloway, Kirtley, Mallick, McKeel, Pruitt, Andrews.

We've just appointed a new Director of Facilities and Environmental Services.

And thank you.

I have two kids and I'm just really excited to be here, so thank you.

I'll give the Board a chance to comment on because of our order starting with Supervisor Lapisto-Curtley for today.

So congratulations.

Supervisor McHill.

So anyway, thank you very much.

Supervisor Callaway.

Thank you.

Supervisor Malek.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Board, we'll now go through our order for announcements, starting with Supervisor Lapisto-Curley to have any announcements.

I have no announcements at this

And that's all I have.

Supervisor Callaway.

So just thought I'd provide that quick update.

Supervisor Malik.

Thank you.

Supervisor Pruitt.

Thank you.

I have no announcements, so we can move on from there.

Supervisor McKeon, will you read?

Signed this 5th day of February 2025, Jim Andrews Chair.

We have a motion from Supervisor McEel, a second from Supervisor Malek, without objection, if the clerk will call the roll.

Mr. Galloway.

Yes.

Yes.

Welcome.

Thank you.

If you'll remain for a moment, Mr. President, I'm sure care to comment serving the Supervisor of the Peace of

and I will say, just like we've given before, the board has given before a donation for the community center, we will continue to support you and I know those connections are coming, so the fiber is laid, now the connections will go to the home.

Thank you.

And if you would introduce the people with you also.

Hawkins, which is the advisory board, and their daughter, Kea.

Welcome.

Thank you.

Supervisor McHugh.

But it is great.

That was in Albemarle County.

Thank you for having me.

Supervisor Callaway.

Thank you again for being here this evening.

Thank you.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

Thank you.

And Supervisor McKeil will read the rules and introduce the speakers.

And with that, our first speaker for tonight, number one is Marta Keene.

Welcome.

So that's all my time I'm going to take.

Welcome.

So thank you so much.

Our third speaker is Mark Lorenzoni.

Thank you.

Our fourth speaker is Matthew Gilligan.

Thank you for your consideration.

Thank you.

and Vicki, you'll pull the mic down.

We all need a stable, healthy home to thrive.

Charlottesville redevelopment and housing authority bought Dogwood Housing with 74 units to preserve its affordability.

Thank you.

There you go.

Thank you.

Welcome and adjust your mic so we can hear you.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Welcome.

So thank you.

And Sarah Delgado and Claudette, I think you're helping her with the instructions.

Give me one moment.

So Sarah Delgado.

Thank you.

Thank you all for being here.

If not, do we have a motion to accept the consent agenda?

Second.

Yes.

Mr. Andrews.

Is there any report this evening?

No, sir.

Thank you.

Welcome, Mr. Davidson.

And to hold the public hearing.

Supervisor Lapisto-Curtley.

Thank you.

Supervisor McKeon.

I have no questions.

Supervisor Galloway.

No questions.

Supervisor Malek.

Thank you.

Supervisor Pruitt.

Can you remind us why it is that it comes to us as a reappropriation that we have to approve in a public hearing?

Thank you.

Matters back before the board for any additional comment or a motion to adopt the resolution in the form of attachment B. Hearing no one jump in.

I move that we approve the resolution attachment B. Second.

McKeel, second from Supervisor Malek, without objection, if the clerk will call the roll.

Thank you.

Thank you.

Welcome.

I'd be happy to answer any questions, and I can bring up the motions and conditions of approval when the board is ready.

Supervisor LaPisto-Cartland.

For the presentation, I have no questions.

Supervisor McKeil.

My understanding is that there's not going to be any grading necessary for this.

Yes, that's correct.

Thank you very much.

Supervisor Galloway.

Guidelines to Entrance Corridor things and what we can do now that it's a new application was the same set or the same true for looking at how water runoff happens on the site.

It would be kind of limited to what's already in place on the site.

When it was originally put in, we don't do the stormwater scrutiny as well.

There would need to be disturbance to the site.

That's all right.

Thank you, Supervisor Malik.

but nothing on the northern half so it looks like it's paid right up to the property line on the northern half of the eastern border here so talk to me about that please I mean normally applicants aren't allowed to take credit for something on somebody else's property as far as screening is concerned so I'm just interested in what's happening over there

That's the northern boundary.

The northern half of the eastern line has nothing but pavement right up to the property line.

So they're to satisfy the screening of the outdoor storage equipment within the site.

They did a great job on the left-hand half, the southern half of this line.

So that's why you see more landscaping along the Rio Road entrance corridor.

as it did up at Halloween Town Center where there were lots of other buildings in between, but because they were within the 500 feet of the roadway, then they had to each provide their own screening elements.

And buildings and things up there.

I mean, it's a different circumstance.

So with buildings and such, they would be more visible.

County.

It's likely more visible, but it's a height, the height associated with a building from any particular entrance corridor that you're viewing it from.

Thank you.

Supervisor Proud.

Thank you.

and I have no questions at this time.

I'm just confused because that's something I'd want to know if it was happening.

The limit of my knowledge is what was in my question.

I thought you said that the library was being impacted by the storm water coming off of this problem.

No, the downstream neighborhood was what was impacted and there were preventative measures for the library side to try to control that.

So Supervisor McKeon will read the rules.

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Welcome.

Can you hear me?

Not real well, yeah.

Thank you.

Thank you.

vehicles we see in the front, that would be machinery, but it won't go over six feet, won't be over the fence.

Correct.

And then the ones in the back could be larger, heavy equipment, correct?

Correct.

That's what you're selling.

And in front of the fence, there will also be a double staggered row of evergreens as well.

Thank you very much.

is placed properly, but there's not a lot of litter and I mean somebody's going to be on the site taking care of this and watching this facility and the grounds.

Yeah, Mr. Berkey can walk you through maybe their normal rental process if a customer comes in and what that looks like, just to give you an example.

Yeah, just want to make sure because of the location that it's properly maintained and monitored.

Our staff goes through checks multiple times a day to make sure that the facility is clean and then we'll also have outside cleaners and probably hire janitorial staff for the inside to again make sure we keep it up to match the you know, I guess the cleanliness of the library, so Great.

Thank you very much.

Absolutely Supervisor Callaway

So the west side there, that's like a shared, that access there is shared with the library.

There's about a residential road with and then in addition to the library.

It's all open, but it'll be lined and painted so people aren't getting

in the major site plan approval process the the county's brought up possibly occur some type of curb separation or painting not sure what that will end up being like but yeah some future addressing of that large that large span there thank you thank you Supervisor Melick thank you

was a little, my address went up when you mentioned about curb, that's not within the 30 foot road though, that's only to keep wheels off the gardens basically.

like I said, it's a pretty, it's significantly large between the two properties currently.

Thank you.

Supervisor Prud.

Thank you.

Is it the standard automotive type or is it special?

but everything that is washed in this facility will be washed and controlled and separated through an oil water separator before going to the sanitary system and it will be inside the building so we won't have any storm water that comes in through that system as well.

Supervisor Lapista-Hurley.

Supervisor McKeil.

Supervisor Galloway, any concerns?

So I appreciate the design and the fact that it'll be good activity going on there and just is going to look much better than what is currently present.

Thank you.

Mr. President.

I have no comments.

and I am supportive and we're looking for a motion from the supervisor from the Rio district.

Second.

Without objection, if the clerk would call the roll.

Mr. Andrews?

I appreciate it.

Welcome, Mr. Shaw.

And I'm happy to answer any questions about both the SP and the special exception.

Supervisor LaPiste,

I guess if they're asking for 161 spaces, is that so they don't have to use KTEC?

And like I said, the applicant can provide more detail about their situation with KTEC.

Supervisor McKeil.

Supervisor Galloway.

Just repeat the history again of the building like what's the difference between this and the last one again?

Thank you.

Supervisor Malek.

So with the expansion of the asphalt in the parking lot and the increase in the building, there's already planned to have stormwater collection and detention and slow down the velocity, et cetera, as everything drains down toward the railroad track.

Yeah, the applicant, the engineer can speak more to that, but from our understanding that is correct.

And I'm correct that the railroad's the very next thing to its west and then the city is beyond.

Yes.

So that will have to be very carefully done.

That's correct.

Thank you.

Supervisor Peruzza.

I share some of my peers' concerns about the parking, but I don't think I have any technical questions about the application.

Thank you.

Thank you.

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Welcome.

So we have that good relationship, but on the same side we want to make sure that definitely in our future that it makes sense that we can fit everything that we need to do on our site.

Happy to answer any questions that you on behalf.

Okay, and you will have screening, you know, trees and such, correct?

So that'll be scrutinized and buffering will be provided.

It would be going to the side.

So we feel like this is the best approach to be able to provide the additional parking.

And last question, have you spoken with KTEC to enter into an agreement for joint use?

So we haven't spoken to them recently, but it's more of just a ongoing just friendship relationship, knowing that we use theirs, they use ours, but on the same side we knew that they would not give an indefinite.

So they would be against anything long term, you say?

They will not sign anything long term.

What's the maximum amount they'll give you?

I have not asked that.

No other questions.

Supervisor McKill.

Have you all considered putting solar over your parking area?

We talked about solar on the actual building, the current facility, and then just kind of cost prohibited for right now, so we're kind of focused on this project to start.

a rough connection back there.

But my still concern is the long term.

Thank you.

Supervisor Galway.

Thank you.

Supervisor Malik.

And will those be one flat or will there be a tiered level?

is usable for pedestrians, right, ADA friendly, so 5% are left, slopes pretty much across the parking lot to allow for vehicular and pedestrian access.

And then one, well I guess there were some on the drawing, some partitions with some, perhaps places where the water could drop down into the tree section as opposed to having a berm around that keeps all the water from going into the tree section.

Certainly, we would anticipate proposing stormwater infrastructure, probably stormwater inlets like you used to see in parking lots that would capture the water, direct it ultimately to our stormwater management facility before it leaves the site.

Thank you.

Supervisor Pruth.

Is that correct?

That is correct, yes.

Is your 1030, is that the largest?

That is the largest right now, yes.

What's your average Sunday attendance at the 10th area?

So about 540?

In the kid's space, that's a separate amount.

That's about another 80.

So is that number of seats that are in the sanctuary specifically?

Yes.

but you have 500 something people in there.

So with three services you can have 220 in the front.

Do you have a sense of what the 1030s specific Sunday attendance looks like?

Yes, 300.

Because that's your largest kids space.

And so we keep working on the service times to just really try to make sure that the parking will spread out across.

That is about right.

Fourth one, or look at parking off site and shuttle people in, look at Harvest Church, look at the center, so those would be other catastrophic opportunities for us to look at.

Sorry, with KTEC.

Sure, sure.

That's all I got.

What's the largest use during the rest of the week?

and those are I mean compared to what you're using it for now those are likely to grow or they're they will grow because with the new facility we'll have like six more meeting spaces on our site that we can house people throughout the week whereas we only have two right now so we'll be able to utilize more groups on our site but it will never meet the maximum on Sunday morning either okay

And as far as trying to do more environmentally friendly parking than just pavement, have you looked into any options there?

But we can't commit to specific measures at this time.

and we don't have a review process that would enable trying to facilitate anything different in the future, do we, or as part of this site review?

As far as going beyond the ordinance, we're not required to make any improvements.

And the other is water quality, making sure that water is treated as well.

Any additional comments?

Appreciate it.

You have a question?

I thought I slid in.

I hadn't put the period on there yet.

You're right.

There was a question mark at the end.

Because I think you can understand that we're all concerned about the amount of asphalt.

Sure.

Provide some shading.

But we do anticipate trees in those islands.

Okay, because I can see in the center section like, I think that's three trees, but I don't know what the three things are in the center.

I think these are anticipated right now and the smaller planting areas is kind of medium size shade or ornamental trees and these being kind of larger shade trees flanked on the side.

No other questions?

We will close the public hearing before the board.

So they're going to the center is what I've been told.

were supposed to start that years ago.

County.

So I'll be supportive of both.

Supervisor Malek.

Anyway, so I think I'm all right for now, but that's all I have right now.

Thanks.

Supervisor Pruitt.

All right, that's all I got.

If there are no additional comments, we're looking for a motion from the Supervisor first for the special use permit.

So I move that the Board adopt the attached resolution, attachment E, to approve the special use permit, SP2412, City Church multi-use space addition with conditions.

motion of Supervisor Galloway second from Supervisor Malek without objection if the clerk will call the roll.

Mr. Galloway.

Yes.

McKeil.

Yes.

Yeah.

Aye.

Mr. Andrews.

And now we have a second motion.

Second.

We have a motion from Supervisor Galloway, second from Supervisor Malek, without objection to the call of roll.

Mr. Andrews?